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Equijet
05-29-2009, 08:06 AM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5755/mce01cr.png

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1781/mce04.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1707/mce02.jpg

The autographed MAX200G and Maxply McEnroe were the birthday presents couple years ago from John, I'm very upset due to can't find the John autographed Wilson Jack Kramer Pro Staff in my stash! :(

Equijet
05-29-2009, 08:11 AM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5863/mce06.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3125/mce07.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/232/mce13.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2746/mce19.jpg

Equijet
05-29-2009, 08:14 AM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1189/mce17.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/397/mce16.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9141/mce18.jpg

Equijet
05-29-2009, 08:15 AM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2044/mce20.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3327/mce21.jpg

Equijet
05-29-2009, 08:16 AM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3302/mce23.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/301/mce22.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3368/mce24.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5697/mce25.jpg

Equijet
05-29-2009, 08:17 AM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8895/mce32.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9235/mce30.jpg

VGP
05-29-2009, 08:18 AM
Thanks again for sharing Equijet!

Equijet
05-29-2009, 08:19 AM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1702/mce09i.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/158/mce11.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6789/mce10.jpg

vsbabolat
05-29-2009, 08:21 AM
Great collection but I think I have 2 variants that you don't have.

I can't believe I sold my Max 200G Grand Slam racquets when I switched.:cry:

Equijet
05-29-2009, 08:23 AM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1529/mce14.jpg

vsbabolat
05-29-2009, 08:27 AM
Equijet do you have this cosmetic version of the Max 200G?
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0054.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0055.jpg

Equijet, you have a truly awesome collection of racquets!!!!!

Equijet
05-29-2009, 08:33 AM
Yes, I do have the MAX200G what you have shown but I can't find it with the others in my stash, I feel terrible for losing those good ones. I'll supplement the photos when they are discovered later.

vsbabolat
05-29-2009, 08:38 AM
Yes, I do have the MAX200G what you have shown but I can't find it with the others in my stash, I feel terrible for losing those good ones. I'll supplement the photos when they are discovered later.

At least you still have them somewhere.

Do have any of the Max200G Pro with the longer grips?
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0115.jpg

Equijet
05-29-2009, 08:44 AM
At least you still have them somewhere.

Do have any of the Max200G Pro with the longer grips?
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0115.jpg

No, I don't have the longer grip MAX200G Pro. Seems Dunlop MAX200G series are your favourite rackets. :)

vsbabolat
05-29-2009, 08:57 AM
^^^^

Yes they are. Dunlop was my favorite company.

Oh do you have MAx Competition that McEnroe used at the 1987 U.S. Open?
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0099.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0101.jpg

What about the Max200GT?
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0030.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0031.jpg

Equijet
05-29-2009, 09:06 AM
Wow! Impressive collection! I don't have MAX Competition and MAX200GT, thanks for sharing the pictures of those rackets to me. Prehaps I have to ask John to acquire the MAX Competition to complete my collection. :)

MichaelChang
05-29-2009, 09:38 AM
What is the difference between the Max 200 GT and regular Max 200?

vsbabolat
05-29-2009, 09:44 AM
Wow! Impressive collection! I don't have MAX Competition and MAX200GT, thanks for sharing the pictures of those rackets to me. Prehaps I have to ask John to acquire the MAX Competition to complete my collection. :)

Your collection is incredible!:)

What is the difference between the Max 200 GT and regular Max 200?

The Max200GT was the prototype of the Max300i. The Max200GT is a Max300i just with a clear coat on the cosmetics and with Max200GT written on it.

MichaelChang
05-29-2009, 10:29 AM
Thanks vsb.

Equijet's collection is pretty amazing. Basesd on the fact she has also got so many real pro rackets include Fed's, I can't stop guessing who she is... :)

leonidas1982
05-29-2009, 11:22 AM
As always, thanks for sharing. What are the specs of the MAx200G and the Maxply? Much thanks.

Steve F.
05-29-2009, 11:54 AM
Great pix you guys. Don't know how you do it!

ichibanosaru
05-29-2009, 09:46 PM
WOW - VERY impressive. This rivals Bud's collection.

Take care and have a great weekend-

Equijet
06-02-2009, 11:00 PM
vsbabolat, I have emailed the answer to you for your question. Check it out! Cheers! :)

Azzurri
06-04-2009, 06:16 PM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1529/mce14.jpg

is this a fake? i had one and it felt nothing like a 200g.

big ted
06-05-2009, 08:54 PM
did he use that snauwaert racquet in competition? is it similar to the 200g? i remember him having a snauwaert stencil in the early 90's

galain
06-05-2009, 10:31 PM
It's not everyone who can say John McEnroe remembers their birthday AND sends them racquets to say congratulations!

Equijet - thank you as always for your posts. It's great having you here.

Equijet
06-08-2009, 11:05 PM
is this a fake? i had one and it felt nothing like a 200g.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1529/mce14.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3671/mce28.jpg

No, It is not fake 200G but the last version. The photo shows the MAX500i what has same style graphic paintjob of that latest MAX200G. Possibly, the feels of your MAX200G was different than the others due to the MAX200G came with three different weight (L,LM and M) and balance (30.5-32.0). :)

lawrence
06-09-2009, 03:40 AM
sorry to bombard this thread, but i was wondering if either of you - having huge dunlop collections - would have any idea what this racket is?
it reads "POWER MONDIALE" on the throat, and seems to be around the same headsize as my PS85. however ive checked all over the internet and asked at the tennis stores and cant find any information at all !

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7131/dsc00254h.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6966/dsc00255a.jpg

DNShade
06-09-2009, 03:52 AM
It looks similar to a Dunlop Turbo Plus I hit with a long time ago. I think that was the name of it. Looks like a similar mold at least. Not sure if that helps at all...

lawrence
06-09-2009, 04:10 AM
i just google,d couldnt find images of that either haha. maybe im just a bad googler
i also forgot to mention its fairly headlight (gripped) and is 16x19

jimbo333
06-09-2009, 10:27 AM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1702/mce09i.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/158/mce11.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6789/mce10.jpg

Equijet, that is a truly amazing collection of 200G's you have there:)

I too collect the 200G series, and have always wondered about this Snauwaert. Do you know anything else about this racquet, I can see it has grommets and is not IMF, but apart from that is it an exact replica of the 200G?

I have a very similar Snauwaert racquet. It has an identical paint job to yours above, but the frame is slightly diferrent, with a thinner beam and is definitely not 200G mould!!!

jimbo333
06-09-2009, 10:42 AM
^^^^

Yes they are. Dunlop was my favorite company.

Oh do you have MAx Competition that McEnroe used at the 1987 U.S. Open?
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0099.jpg

What about the Max200GT?
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0030.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0031.jpg

Any opportunity to show that 200GT eh:)

What an amazing racquet, for a 200G and 300i collector like me, this must be the holy grail as it is a combination of the 2!!!

TMR
06-13-2009, 10:40 PM
Wow! Impressive collection! I don't have MAX Competition and MAX200GT, thanks for sharing the pictures of those rackets to me. Prehaps I have to ask John to acquire the MAX Competition to complete my collection. :)

Equijet,
I am looking for your elusive namesake - the Equijet. My collection can not compare to yours, but I may have something worthwhile to trade. For example, I have a Max Competition Plus I would trade for a used Equijet any condition.
ahanesthesiaa at gmail dot com

Azzurri
06-14-2009, 06:36 AM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1529/mce14.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3671/mce28.jpg

No, It is not fake 200G but the last version. The photo shows the MAX500i what has same style graphic paintjob of that latest MAX200G. Possibly, the feels of your MAX200G was different than the others due to the MAX200G came with three different weight (L,LM and M) and balance (30.5-32.0). :)

I purchased one of these 4 years ago and it was not at all the feel of a Max 200g. Have you played it by any chance??

jimbo333
06-14-2009, 08:11 AM
I purchased one of these 4 years ago and it was not at all the feel of a Max 200g. Have you played it by any chance??

It does indeed feel different to the older versions!!!

It feels slightly lighter, and is actually slightly stiffer, but there isn't a huge difference:)

You will notice this most if using say a Medium 200G from say 1984 and then the racquet above, I admit you will then notice a difference!!!

jimbo333
06-14-2009, 08:16 AM
Equijet,
I am looking for your elusive namesake - the Equijet. My collection can not compare to yours, but I may have something worthwhile to trade. For example, I have a Max Competition Plus I would trade for a used Equijet any condition.
ahanesthesiaa at gmail dot com

I also have a Max Competition Plus, it is unused with tags, but I should point out that McEnroe didn't use this racquet, he only used the Max Competition, as far as I'm aware?

Azzurri
06-14-2009, 06:02 PM
It does indeed feel different to the older versions!!!

It feels slightly lighter, and is actually slightly stiffer, but there isn't a huge difference:)

You will notice this most if using say a Medium 200G from say 1984 and then the racquet above, I admit you will then notice a difference!!!

I will say this, I played nothing but Max 200g from 1984-1990/91. I had 11 in all. I still have one. This racquet I purchased felt nothing like the 200g's. tinny, very light, balane....it honestly felt fake.

Equijet
06-14-2009, 08:13 PM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1702/mce09i.jpg

Equijet, that is a truly amazing collection of 200G's you have there:)

I too collect the 200G series, and have always wondered about this Snauwaert. Do you know anything else about this racquet, I can see it has grommets and is not IMF, but apart from that is it an exact replica of the 200G?

I have a very similar Snauwaert racquet. It has an identical paint job to yours above, but the frame is slightly diferrent, with a thinner beam and is definitely not 200G mould!!!

Sorry for late reply Jimbo333 and everyone who expects my answers because I can't attend TW forum very often!

John indeed played with this Snauwaert MAX200G clone racquet breifly when he was approaching the end of his professional career.
Since he was sponsored by Snauwaert, he continue to play with his favouable MAX200G what has "S" stencil for endorsing Snauwaert,
after awhile he needed a powerful racquet but with the same configuration of MAX200G to improve his game.
Therefore Snauwaert copied the same design / geometry of MAX200G but used the conventional graphite lay-up structure to resolve john's requirement.
(Basically, the conventional graphite lay-up contains longer graphite fibre what contributes the best stiffness conditions than IMF/ Hyusol Grafil fibre injection structure).
Unfortunate, this Snauwaert racquet was abandoned after a few matches due to John felt this racquet lost the same feeling of his long time partner MAX200G. :)

Jimbo333, would you please show me the similar racquet has the identical paintjob what you described? Appreciates in advance!

jimbo333
06-15-2009, 06:13 PM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1702/mce09i.jpg



Sorry for late reply Jimbo333 and everyone who expects my answers because I can't attend TW forum very often!

John indeed played with this Snauwaert MAX200G clone racquet breifly when he was approaching the end of his professional career.
Since he was sponsored by Snauwaert, he continue to play with his favouable MAX200G what has "S" stencil for endorsing Snauwaert,
after awhile he needed a powerful racquet but with the same configuration of MAX200G to improve his game.
Therefore Snauwaert copied the same design / geometry of MAX200G but used the conventional graphite lay-up structure to resolve john's requirement.
(Basically, the conventional graphite lay-up contains longer graphite fibre what contributes the best stiffness conditions than IMF/ Hyusol Grafil fibre injection structure).
Unfortunate, this Snauwaert racquet was abandoned after a few matches due to John felt this racquet lost the same feeling of his long time partner MAX200G. :)

Jimbo333, would you please show me the similar racquet has the identical paintjob what you described? Appreciates in advance!

Hi Equijet,

Thanks for getting back to me. It's great to hear exactly what happened regarding the McEnroe Snauwaert racquet!

The Snauwaert that I have is amazing, as has identical paintjob, even the MCE001 detailing! Yet is quite a different racquet.

Unfortunately I can't put photos up here, as my computer struggles with the upload to the required photos sites, I have no idea why? If you email me through my profile, will send photos of the racquet:)

max200G
06-15-2009, 06:45 PM
What a great thread! It is not very well known that McEnroe used the Prince CTS Lightning 90 for a very brief time. I think only one tournament in Japan 1990.
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt228/Max200G/scan0002.jpg
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt228/Max200G/scan0003.jpg
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt228/Max200G/scan0005.jpg

DNShade
06-15-2009, 07:19 PM
I remember John actually using the lovely Estusa Power Beam for a little while - he was using it at one of the Challenge Cup events at the Forum in Los Angeles a few times when I was there and around him. I think it was when Mac put a beat down on Andre right after he had won the Open if my memory isn't failing me. He was around Boris a lot at that time so it might have been a bit of an influence.

brinkeguthrie
06-15-2009, 08:21 PM
wow, never seen Mac with a Prince, ever. It looks a look like my Graphtech DB frame which I still have! And there are all ALLtime favorite shoes, too. Wore those guys OUT.

jimbo333
11-06-2009, 03:58 PM
Equijet, sorry for the delay, but this is that Snauwaert I was talking about (thanks Hans:)). It has an identical paintjob to yours, but is a completely different racquet!

And I've since found out that this version is a paintjob of the Snauwaert Mikael Penfors Autograph!

http://i34.tinypic.com/15q9995.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2vkau84.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2wrn62f.jpg

jimbo333
11-06-2009, 04:11 PM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1702/mce09i.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/158/mce11.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6789/mce10.jpg

Wish I had your version though:)

Equijet
11-11-2009, 11:36 PM
http://i34.tinypic.com/15q9995.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2vkau84.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2wrn62f.jpg[/QUOTE]

Thanks Jimbo333, Great photos of such classic racket what you have! It is really a cousin of mine! Interesting indeed. :)

jimbo333
11-12-2009, 07:09 AM
Thanks Jimbo333, Great photos of such classic racket what you have! It is really a cousin of mine! Interesting indeed. :)

Yeah, they are definitely related:)

(Thanks again Hans for photos, and racquet of course:))

zapvor
11-12-2009, 09:38 AM
so who is equijet

Audiophile
11-13-2009, 03:36 PM
To the OP, that collection kicks you know what. How envious I am!

Kirko
11-14-2009, 11:31 PM
I remember all those frames and thanks for sharing.

ilian
11-15-2009, 09:34 AM
The best racquet thread on TW! Thanks to all who contributed to it!

niktub
08-26-2010, 12:16 AM
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7577/8adaf7450d94e2e00e25d5f.jpg

safe
08-26-2010, 03:16 AM
I think that is Dunlop :)

Rabbit
08-26-2010, 04:26 AM
There was also a French Open where McEnroe used a Yonex frame. He had a bout of tennis elbow and had borrowed some, I think, from Aaron Krickstein.

And I agree with a previous poster, this is an awesome thread.

niktub
08-26-2010, 04:47 AM
Looks like he is switching to the 300 tour(18x20) to match his nike clothes or he is just still using his old pro molds(16x19) with a new PJ.

vsbabolat
08-26-2010, 06:00 AM
Looks like he is switching to the 300 tour(18x20) to match his nike clothes or he is just still using his old pro molds(16x19) with a new PJ.

Mac's personal racquets with the Maxply McEnroe PJ were Hotmelt 300G. Don't know about the new sticks yet.

johnnymacfan
08-29-2010, 05:28 PM
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7577/8adaf7450d94e2e00e25d5f.jpg

I was lucky enough to get into the Dunlop launch party last night in NYC and McEnroe had his new Biomimetic 300 frames there. It's the 300 mold and spec, except the weight, which he said was about 372g strung (with his leather grip). Sweet looking frame. Looking forward to trying these new Dunlops.

The Baseline
08-29-2010, 07:40 PM
I was lucky enough to get into the Dunlop launch party last night in NYC and McEnroe had his new Biomimetic 300 frames there. It's the 300 mold and spec, except the weight, which he said was about 372g strung (with his leather grip). Sweet looking frame. Looking forward to trying these new Dunlops.

they had a party? wow, thats kind of cool. It looks sweet from that angle. dunlop is really doing it!!

Mm10
09-03-2010, 07:20 AM
A few of these rackets have been seen now - they are really striking! People defo seem to be talking about Dunlop way more at the moment. We'll have to wait and see what they play like...

jorel
09-03-2010, 10:02 AM
Wow! Impressive collection! I don't have MAX Competition and MAX200GT, thanks for sharing the pictures of those rackets to me. Prehaps I have to ask John to acquire the MAX Competition to complete my collection. :)
as in ask John Mac? Who are u? superman?

jack_kramer
09-04-2010, 06:40 AM
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Ahhhh, the venerable Max 200G. This racket brings back a lot of memories. Mac was my idol growing up and I used the 200G for about two months when I played on my high school tennis team. It had absolutely no power and no feel and yet I just had to use the same racket as Jmac :lol: .

I was also a huge Wilander fan growing up and I also used his Rossignol racket for a few months which I also hated :evil: . I can't remember the model but it was white and it so soo damn flexible!! ughh. Eventually I grew out of my "use the same racket as my idol phase" and returned to my Prince Graphite midsize which I LOVED but I would go through so many because they cracked so easily. Those things were about $150 bucks when I was in high school so after going through about four of them, I switched to the Wilson Pro Staff Midsize which I still use to this day!! They never cracked on me even depsite my Mac-wannabe racket smashing temper tantrums and I loved the control and feel I got with them (esp. when I had the $$ to string them with VS Gut ) .

Anyway, it's amazing to see that 200G with "Made in England" on it. With all the rackets now being made in China for dirt cheap and selling for $199, can you imagine how much a racket made in England would cost these days? I would venture to guess about $500 bucks!! :lol:

hoodjem
09-04-2010, 07:55 AM
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7577/8adaf7450d94e2e00e25d5f.jpgYes, this is a Dunlop. You can see it printed on the inside of the frame at the top of the head.

Chuck Savage
09-10-2013, 12:15 PM
Equijet, nice collection.

I may have a few other versions of the max 200g, will try post some photos soon.

classic tennis
09-11-2013, 12:31 AM
He also played the Fischer VT Pro 90 in 91-2 the same layup as Patrick used only in a 5 3/4 grip at 375g US.

galain
09-11-2013, 01:58 AM
There was also a French Open where McEnroe used a Yonex frame. He had a bout of tennis elbow and had borrowed some, I think, from Aaron Krickstein.

And I agree with a previous poster, this is an awesome thread.

i recall seeing footage of this and it was really one of those very surreal moments where my brain refused to acknowledge what my eyes were taking in!

ae695
09-11-2013, 04:14 AM
What about his Völkls? Any pics?

Thanks for the thread anyway

Antónis
09-12-2013, 01:53 PM
There was also a French Open where McEnroe used a Yonex frame. He had a bout of tennis elbow and had borrowed some, I think, from Aaron Krickstein.

And I agree with a previous poster, this is an awesome thread.

I'm pretty sure I saw a pic somewhere of J. Mac playing with a Prestige 600 on an early 90's Wimbledon (or some other grass-court tournament).

One of my favourite all-time players, by the way

Antónis
09-12-2013, 02:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJKL_a0TrIM&list=PL9496A766D9EECFD0&index=1

A quick look on youtube, and a confirmation: this silly video shows J. Mac clearly with a Prestige 600 @ 0:22 minute

vsbabolat
09-12-2013, 03:12 PM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/119025792_zpsa479075a.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/vsbabolat/media/119025792_zpsa479075a.jpg.html)
Prestige Pro 600 at 1990 Wimbledon. The racquets were borrowed from Goran.

ChicagoJack
09-13-2013, 08:37 AM
What about his Völkls? Any pics?

Thanks for the thread anyway

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh11/olmo21/TW%20Forum%20Stuff/JOHNMC1_zpsf73b0131.jpg (http://s252.photobucket.com/user/olmo21/media/TW%20Forum%20Stuff/JOHNMC1_zpsf73b0131.jpg.html)

He also used a racquet that was painted to look like a Volkl Quantum 10 Tour, which I think was a C-10 underneath. We actually had a few dozen Volkl Pro stocks for sale here at TW, in the vintage racquets retail section a few years ago. I seem to recall that paint job being in that batch.

-Jack

Rabbit
09-13-2013, 10:28 AM
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh11/olmo21/TW%20Forum%20Stuff/JOHNMC1_zpsf73b0131.jpg (http://s252.photobucket.com/user/olmo21/media/TW%20Forum%20Stuff/JOHNMC1_zpsf73b0131.jpg.html)

He also used a racquet that was painted to look like a Volkl Quantum 10 Tour, which I think was a C-10 underneath. We actually had a few dozen Volkl Pro stocks for sale here at TW, in the vintage racquets retail section a few years ago. I seem to recall that paint job being in that batch.

-Jack

I can 100% verify that the Q10 John McEnroe used was a C10. :)

ChicagoJack
09-14-2013, 07:38 PM
^^^
Ah cool! I always had that suspicion, thanks for the confirmation. ;)

ae695
05-05-2014, 03:24 AM
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh11/olmo21/TW%20Forum%20Stuff/JOHNMC1_zpsf73b0131.jpg (http://s252.photobucket.com/user/olmo21/media/TW%20Forum%20Stuff/JOHNMC1_zpsf73b0131.jpg.html)

He also used a racquet that was painted to look like a Volkl Quantum 10 Tour, which I think was a C-10 underneath. We actually had a few dozen Volkl Pro stocks for sale here at TW, in the vintage racquets retail section a few years ago. I seem to recall that paint job being in that batch.

-Jack
Thanks.

One last question: was it a C10 (MP) or the C10 pro tour (Mid)?

vsbabolat
05-05-2014, 08:56 AM
Thanks.

One last question: was it a C10 (MP) or the C10 pro tour (Mid)?

C10 Pro MP.

BreakPoint
05-05-2014, 12:19 PM
I can 100% verify that the Q10 John McEnroe used was a C10. :)
Back around 2000, I tried the VolklC-10 Pro when I was trying to transition away from my Dunlop Max 200G, thinking that if McEnroe could switch from the Max 200G to the C-10 Pro that maybe the feels are similar enough that I could do it, too. Nope, not even close. Although they are both flexible frames, the hoop on the C-10 Pro wobbled like a weeble so I didn't have any confidence in my shots, and it just didn't feel as solid and stable and vibration-free as the Max 200G. I came to the conclusion that there's just really nothing that feels like a Max 200G, not even the new Muscle Weave 200G which I used for a while. :( That injection molding really made it a one of a kind racquet.

love15
05-09-2014, 07:11 AM
Met him one time few years ago, in the press bar behind Susanne Lenglen court in Paris, not the nicest guy of the world :)
Anycase he said that every raquet he used, has the same weight of his first dunlop woodie, about 370 grams !!

BreakPoint
05-09-2014, 10:06 AM
Met him one time few years ago, in the press bar behind Susanne Lenglen court in Paris, not the nicest guy of the world :)
Anycase he said that every raquet he used, has the same weight of his first dunlop woodie, about 370 grams !!
A Dunlop Maxply Fort woodie actually weighs more than 370 grams so if his current racquet weighs only 370 grams then he's gone modern and gone lighter! :shock: :)

big ted
05-11-2014, 04:40 PM
A Dunlop Maxply Fort woodie actually weighs more than 370 grams so if his current racquet weighs only 370 grams then he's gone modern and gone lighter! :shock: :)

i think they made different weight versions of that racquet? maybe he used the "light" ones. usually the 'light' wood racquets of that era were 360g if im not mistaken.

JW10S
05-11-2014, 08:09 PM
i think they made different weight versions of that racquet? maybe he used the "light" ones. usually the 'light' wood racquets of that era were 360g if im not mistaken.Yes, it was common for wood racquets back then to come in light, medium and heavy models, not like today. Dunlop Maxply Forts did come in light, medium and heavy models, I had all 3 but preferred the medium ones myself. Many players these days would find the 'light' racquets from back in the day to be pretty heavy.

BreakPoint
05-11-2014, 08:34 PM
i think they made different weight versions of that racquet? maybe he used the "light" ones. usually the 'light' wood racquets of that era were 360g if im not mistaken.
Even the "Light" ones were over 370 grams. I used the Maxply Fort in the Light version and had many of them. The Medium versions were closer to 400 grams.

big ted
05-11-2014, 11:29 PM
i read through the posts and it sounds like mcenroe was always borrowing racquets from people (patrick, becker, goran, krickstein, etc..) and also switching racquets. such a contrast compared to someone like lendl or sampras who used the same frame most of their career. i cant imagine someone like lendl trying out a practice partners frame and using it only few days later at a gs tournament.

BreakPoint
05-11-2014, 11:37 PM
i read through the posts and it sounds like mcenroe was always borrowing racquets from people (patrick, becker, goran, krickstein, etc..) and also switching racquets. such a contrast compared to someone like lendl or sampras who used the same frame most of their career. i cant imagine someone like lendl trying out a practice partners frame and using it only few days later at a gs tournament.
But Lendl did try the racquets of his opponents to figure out and analyze what their racquets did best and didn't do so well so that he could exploit their racquets' weaknesses during matches. He had McEnroe's Max 200G with his exact string set-up to extensively test when he was trying to figure out how to beat McEnroe. It worked as Lendl turned around their head-to-head which was heavily in favor of McEnroe into heavily in his favor. And Lendl did switch to a bigger racquet just for Wimbledon in his ultimately unsuccessful effort to win Wimbledon.

DNShade
05-12-2014, 01:26 AM
A Dunlop Maxply Fort woodie actually weighs more than 370 grams so if his current racquet weighs only 370 grams then he's gone modern and gone lighter! :shock: :)

The guy is right -- John has said it many times that he has kept the same weight and his sticks today weigh the same as his wood ones did -- 372 grams or so...

John even says it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiEtlb7aWKQ

max
05-13-2014, 10:37 AM
Equijet: thanks for the posts; fascinating, fascinating stuff!

I loved the Max 200g---it really was the racquet that made me a much better player than I'd been until that point. It made me a more aggressive player and improved my SV game greatly.

max
05-13-2014, 10:38 AM
Back around 2000, I tried the VolklC-10 Pro when I was trying to transition away from my Dunlop Max 200G, thinking that if McEnroe could switch from the Max 200G to the C-10 Pro that maybe the feels are similar enough that I could do it, too. Nope, not even close. Although they are both flexible frames, the hoop on the C-10 Pro wobbled like a weeble so I didn't have any confidence in my shots, and it just didn't feel as solid and stable and vibration-free as the Max 200G. I came to the conclusion that there's just really nothing that feels like a Max 200G, not even the new Muscle Weave 200G which I used for a while. :( That injection molding really made it a one of a kind racquet.

I did much the same! And ended up with a weighted C-9. But of course, the feel wasn't there, but perhaps the best available stand-in at the time.

BreakPoint
05-13-2014, 12:16 PM
I did much the same! And ended up with a weighted C-9. But of course, the feel wasn't there, but perhaps the best available stand-in at the time.
I also seriously thought about going with the Volkl C-9. Loved the orange paintjob! But ended up going to a Head PC600 instead.

NTRPolice
05-13-2014, 12:32 PM
Every once in a while I get to play with a wood stick during a charity event. I have to say it feels nostalgic. The bad part of it is that I occasionally hit it at the opposing net player during a serve if I frame it... haha scared a few people like that :(