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kobe3pointer
06-07-2009, 09:04 PM
I was just wondering, after Federer retires, Nadal has a chance to take them all(some would argue that even with Fed he does) But I think it would take the pressure off him.

He is only 23 years old. He has a great chance.

What do you think?

R_Federer
06-07-2009, 09:06 PM
Ill say it for the 50th time. For Nadal its NOT about age. I always hear "he is only 21" etc. but its the way he has played his tennis. He has worked hard for every point and eventually he will break down. We are already seeing signs of it. Perhaps he'll win 2 more hard/grass combined Slams and 2-3 more French. That gets him ~11. So no.

Docalex007
06-07-2009, 09:08 PM
I was just wondering, after Federer retires, Nadal has a chance to take them all(some would argue that even with Fed he does) But I think it would take the pressure off him.

He is only 23 years old. He has a great chance.

What do you think?

Actually come to think of it... Nadal's getting kinda old. :shock:

It just kinda crept up on me... last thing I heard he was 21.

kobe3pointer
06-07-2009, 09:11 PM
Ill say it for the 50th time. For Nadal its NOT about age. I always hear "he is only 21" etc. but its the way he has played his tennis. He has worked hard for every point and eventually he will break down. We are already seeing signs of it. Perhaps he'll win 2 more hard/grass combined Slams and 2-3 more French. That gets him ~11. So no.

For a second there I almost thought YOU were Roger... :D

<3tennis!!!
06-07-2009, 09:11 PM
absolutely no chance whatsoever

kobe3pointer
06-07-2009, 09:13 PM
Wow, didnt realize it was soo hard(because everything has to go right)... dang Federer... :D

BigServer1
06-07-2009, 09:22 PM
It's not about age, it's about mileage, and Nadal has put a LOT of miles on his body since 2004. The guy has been winning tournaments and slams since he was 18 years old, and his style of play is incredibly taxing when compared with a guy like Sampras or Federer.

Unfortunately, I'll be really surprised if Nadal is a serious contender for Slams after the age of 25. I hope he proves me wrong and is able to play at a high level for a long time, but with the chronic (yes, they're chronic) injuries that he's dealt with since 2006, I don't see him making it past 9-10 slams. With that said, he'll be a clay GOAT, and one of only three open era men to win the FO-Wimby back-to-back. That, combined with Slams on three surfaces, multiple wins over Fed, a ton of MS shields, 4 FOs in a row and an Olympic singles gold medal should get him into the top 6-8 of GOAT candidates. His status would be much higher if he manages to win a US Open.

Hopefully he'll be around, but I just don't see it happening.

R_Federer
06-07-2009, 09:28 PM
^ Good points BigServer, though Federer has a great chance to join Nadal and the two others to win the FO-Wimby back-to-back :D.

Wow the poll is 0 to 12. Never knew it would be that lopsided.

BigServer1
06-07-2009, 09:31 PM
^ Good points BigServer, though Federer has a great chance to join Nadal and the two others to win the FO-Wimby back-to-back :D.

Wow the poll is 0 to 12. Never knew it would be that lopsided.

No, I know, and man, do I ever hope that it happens. Another thing that will make it hard for Nadal is the fact that Federer should end up with a minimum of 15-16 slams, so Nadal will have to win 9-10 more just to tie...It's a tough task considering what he's already going through physically.

NamRanger
06-07-2009, 09:32 PM
I'll be surprised if he even manages to hold onto the #1 spot this year let alone continue to win slams (outside of the FO).

bruce38
06-07-2009, 09:33 PM
Wow the poll is 0 to 12. Never knew it would be that lopsided.

I think that's also because Fed is no where close to being done yet.

lawrence
06-07-2009, 09:40 PM
Actually come to think of it... Nadal's getting kinda old. :shock:

It just kinda crept up on me... last thing I heard he was 21.

we're all getting old
time just flies by these days :(

the Artist
06-08-2009, 12:14 AM
I can't imagine Nadal triumphing in 14 slams.

I can however foresee Fed adding to 14.

thalivest
06-08-2009, 12:22 AM
Sadly no. I would be thrilled if he somehow wins another 2-3 Frenchs to tie/break the record, and wins a U.S Open somehow to complete the career slam. I will be pleasently surprised if Rafa wins any slams past 2012 so he needs to completely dominate the next 3.5 years to even surpass the 14 of Pete (and Roger will be beyond that).

OTMPut
06-08-2009, 12:31 AM
He has perhaps 1 or 2 more RG in him.
Guys are adapting fast. He is declining physically. Fed is going to be around in good form for another 3-4 years.
No chance outside RG, really.

thalivest
06-08-2009, 12:36 AM
I think people are too quick to write Rafa off. He still is a huge contender at any of the Australian, French, or Wimbledon for the next few years. His best shot at the U.S Open may have been last year though. I still have faith he could surprise and pull it off though.

joeri888
06-08-2009, 01:19 AM
I thought he might before this tournament, cause I'd expect us to be at 13-7 now instead of 14-6. It's a huge gap and since I think Fed might win another one this year, Rafa is still not gaining in Slams at roger, while Roger is obviously quite past his prime. Not dissing Rafa here, Roger is just amazing at Slams though. Rafa will double (or at least win a lot more) Fed's master series titles.

roysid
06-08-2009, 01:21 AM
I think Fed will end up with 16-18 slams. Nadal 10-12 slams.

For Nadal to overtake Federer, the next 6 slams he has to play unbelievably taking out 4-5 of them. After 2010, it will be very tough for either fed or nadal to win slams.

jamesblakefan#1
06-08-2009, 01:24 AM
38 to 4. That's a pretty decisive no. Something everyone agrees on yay!

flying24
06-08-2009, 01:35 AM
No way Nadal wins any slams past 2012. For all we know now he may not win any slams past 2010. I am not a Nadal hater but with his playing style and the fact he is already breaking down that seems obvious. He has already lasted longer than many predicted him to. I do like the guy, and while I am a Federer fan I also hope Nadal adds as much as he can to his current achievements in the next 18 to 40 months as I think he is worthy of more achievements than he already has. He still has some window left but it wont be open as long as his staunchest fans would like to think.

theduh
06-08-2009, 01:52 AM
If Nadal doesn't change his playing style I would have to say a big fat NO.

sh@de
06-08-2009, 02:22 AM
I say no given Nadal's current knees. But you never know, there might be a miracle and he gets surgery or some random stuff and miraculously heals and then goes on to win the next 20 slams or sth...

I'd say Nadal has a chance, but a slim one. Winning so many slams is difficult.

tata
06-08-2009, 02:58 AM
Pointless thread. Discuss this when federer retires. He's on 14 AND COUNTING

defrule
06-08-2009, 03:16 AM
He needs to becareful with his health. Possibly do what Federer does peak at the slams, Nadal doesn't need to prove himself in Master series. For example the long clay season does he really need to contend for all the clay titles? In the end it's Roland Garros that matters.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
06-08-2009, 03:20 AM
Ill say it for the 50th time. For Nadal its NOT about age. I always hear "he is only 21" etc. but its the way he has played his tennis. He has worked hard for every point and eventually he will break down. We are already seeing signs of it. Perhaps he'll win 2 more hard/grass combined Slams and 2-3 more French. That gets him ~11. So no.

Excellent post,completely agree

rafan
06-08-2009, 06:35 AM
For yonkers I was always led to believe that the grand slam was a title won at every slam in the course of a year. In my book neither Federer or Nadal then has achieved that - although Rafa did win the olympics, clay and grass but still not the lot.

Gemini
06-08-2009, 06:37 AM
Nadal's maybe got 3 more (4 max) in him if he's healthy and relaxes his schedule a bit. Let go of the hunt for the no. 1 ranking and concentrate his efforts around the majors. Same thing for Federer.

kimbahpnam
06-08-2009, 09:17 AM
90.91% of pollsters say "no."

kobe3pointer
06-08-2009, 10:02 AM
90.91% of pollsters say "no."

Correction: 91.14%

But I dont think he can do it either... his playing style as many have stated previously is too extreme and will be his demise...

malakas
06-08-2009, 10:17 AM
I don't think he will reach 10 total,let alone 14.