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batz
06-08-2009, 02:35 PM
Just reported on radio 5 live

Edit - @ 1330 BST

Breaking news on BBC sport

malakas
06-08-2009, 02:37 PM
ok.So he must have already taken the tests,and waits for the results.

Now where's that guy who says knows Nadal personally?

kraggy
06-08-2009, 02:45 PM
I do really really hope its good news. Of course if it's good news I fully expect some trolling from people who would point out that "Uncle Toni was lying and Nadal was faking" :D

icedevil0289
06-08-2009, 02:46 PM
Anyone kind of feel like they just took a test and they are waiting for the results? That's how I feel waiting to see if Nadal will play wimbly or not. I can't even imagine how the nadal fans are feeling.

batz
06-08-2009, 02:48 PM
Anyone kind of feel like they just took a test and they are waiting for the results? That's how I feel waiting to see if Nadal will play wimbly or not. I can't even imagine how the nadal fans are feeling.


Yep - I know what you're saying. I'm not a Rafa 'fan' as such, but I so hope it's good news tomorrow. I'm a bit worried though.

pound cat
06-08-2009, 02:49 PM
No one can say that tennis isn't full of drama of one kind or another.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/8085394.stm

norcal
06-08-2009, 02:49 PM
He didn't blame his French loss on the knee did he? Soder beat him fair and square.

thejoe
06-08-2009, 02:50 PM
Yep - I know what you're saying. I'm not a Rafa 'fan' as such, but I so hope it's good news tomorrow. I'm a bit worried though.

Same here. We're agreeing rather a lot lately. It's making me uneasy :p

vtmike
06-08-2009, 02:52 PM
He didn't blame his French loss on the knee did he? Soder beat him fair and square.

He did say he was not playing at 100% and did not play his best tennis due to his knees...So indirectly yes he did say that...

batz
06-08-2009, 02:53 PM
Same here. We're agreeing rather a lot lately. It's making me uneasy :p

We can soon sort that out! ;)

No doubt normal service will be resumed when we get round to discussing Murray's chances @ SW19 :)

Fedace
06-08-2009, 02:54 PM
Roger is trembling in his pantyboots right about now. I wonder if he will get any sleep at all tonight ??

S H O W S T O P P E R !
06-08-2009, 02:58 PM
Roger is trembling in his pantyboots right about now. I wonder if he will get any sleep at all tonight ??

Actually he's probably shining his RG trophy for the 7th time today (I would be too. :D)

ghostbear
06-08-2009, 02:58 PM
I hope he won't play Wimbledon if he doesn't feel at least 80%. If he doesn't have a good chance to win it all, I think it'd be better if he just rested his knee instead of aggravating it.

thejoe
06-08-2009, 02:59 PM
We can soon sort that out! ;)

No doubt normal service will be resumed when we get round to discussing Murray's chances @ SW19 :)

They're very good.

Blast!

FeŮa14
06-08-2009, 03:00 PM
He will be at Wimbledon.

If he was still injured then i'm sure he would of left it to the last minute, in order to give himself the best possible chance of playing.

Fedace
06-08-2009, 03:02 PM
I wonder if Not wearing those Knee bandages during clay season really cost him ?

batz
06-08-2009, 03:03 PM
He will be at Wimbledon.

If he was still injured then i'm sure he would of left it to the last minute, in order to give himself the best possible chance of playing.

I'm not so sure mate. I'm speculating, obviously - but I think the opposite is true. If he was going to play I think they'd just have announced it today. Rafa surely isn't waiting for the results of anything - he has the best care money can buy. He'll have been told today IMHO.

volleynets
06-08-2009, 03:05 PM
Roger is trembling in his pantyboots right about now. I wonder if he will get any sleep at all tonight ??

Honestly I dont think Federer would be as satisfied if he won this Wimbledon without beating Rafa in the final.

Giggs The Red Devil
06-08-2009, 03:06 PM
A statement? Can’t he just send an e-mail to the organisers?

Marty502
06-08-2009, 03:07 PM
This sounds bad for Nadal.

If they had any hopes for a full recovery, they'd do a statement much later on, after Nadal's treatment and with the results on hand.

If they'll make an statement this early and are calling the press on it, it's because they probably already know he won't recover on time. And since he stepped down from Queen's already...

It's looking grim, IMO.

shawn1122
06-08-2009, 03:08 PM
8:30 am EST

Fedace
06-08-2009, 03:10 PM
8:30 am EST

I think i heard Roger making an appointment in his iPhone....:)

vtmike
06-08-2009, 03:13 PM
I think i heard Roger making an appointment in his iPhone....:)

How can you hear someone make an appointment on an iphone? :-?

Fedace
06-08-2009, 03:14 PM
I think Roger is praying to those tennis gods,,,,," OH please, grant me one more wish........Pleaseeee

nothingfails
06-08-2009, 03:17 PM
What's the big deal ? He likes to be in the media apparently: will he play, won't he play...who cares. Uncle Toni should shut the **** up. If you can't play you withdraw, period. Like Sharapova did everytime before she felt ready to play. I hate the whole Nadal media circus for a knee injuree. I can sense bitterness miles away.

ghostbear
06-08-2009, 03:19 PM
Who cares? I'm sure the tennis world cares. :roll: It's not like the guy's ranked #1 in the world or anything ... oh wait.

Rickson
06-08-2009, 03:19 PM
He's gonna play. He won't win it, but he's gonna play.

Giggs The Red Devil
06-08-2009, 03:19 PM
I think Roger is praying to those tennis gods,,,,," OH please, grant me one more wish........Pleaseeee

At least Federerís phobia is focused. Is there any player, besides Federer, Nadal shouldnít be afraid of?

Fedace
06-08-2009, 03:20 PM
At least Federerís phobia is focused. Is there any player, besides Federer, Nadal shouldnít be afraid of?

Rafa can beat every player in the tour. Noone can stand in his way, if he is 100% healthy...

Rickson
06-08-2009, 03:20 PM
Rafa definitely fears Roger on grass.

kimbahpnam
06-08-2009, 03:21 PM
what kind of tests do they do to figure out if you're able to play or not (in Nadal's case)?

jrod
06-08-2009, 03:22 PM
This sounds bad for Nadal.

If they had any hopes for a full recovery, they'd do a statement much later on, after Nadal's treatment and with the results on hand.

If they'll make an statement this early and are calling the press on it, it's because they probably already know he won't recover on time. And since he stepped down from Queen's already...

It's looking grim, IMO.


Agree. There is no point in this if you are simply going to announce this early that you're going to play. The only thing that makes any sense is a statement to the contrary, which is extremely unfortunate not only for Nadal, but for tennis as a whole.

I sure as hell hope we're wrong here...

bolo
06-08-2009, 03:22 PM
What's the big deal ? He likes to be in the media apparently: will he play, won't he play...who cares. Uncle Toni should shut the **** up. If you can't play you withdraw, period. Like Sharapova did everytime before she felt ready to play. I hate the whole Nadal media circus for a knee injuree. I can sense bitterness miles away.

I can definitely sense bitterness miles away. :) Or is that close by?

vtmike
06-08-2009, 03:23 PM
Rafa can beat every player in the tour. Noone can stand in his way, if he is 100% healthy...

Roger can beat every player in the tour. Noone can stand in his way, if he is 100% healthy...

tennisfun1
06-08-2009, 03:23 PM
Just reported on radio 5 live

Edit - @ 1330 BST

Breaking news on BBC sport


The dude is on a stupid publicity stunt.
He will be playing Wimbledon barring a broken leg.

Giggs The Red Devil
06-08-2009, 03:23 PM
Rafa can beat every player in the tour. Noone can stand in his way, if he is 100% healthy...

So Soderling should be a doctor as he was spot on with his diagnosis.

DarthFed
06-08-2009, 03:24 PM
He's gonna play. He won't win it, but he's gonna play.

You've been 100% right on all predictions that i've seen you make (Fed beating Nadal in their 20th meeting, Fed winning the french AND in straights, that he paid his curse of 13 dues in Melbourne) Lets see if your prediction is correct..because i kinda want Fedal SW19 R4

Lsmkenpo
06-08-2009, 03:28 PM
Seems as if he is not going to play, why would they make a statement this early before Wimbledon, only way they would do that, is if he was 100% healthy, and I seriously doubt that is the case, after 1 week.

OTMPut
06-08-2009, 03:30 PM
Rafa can beat every player in the tour. Noone can stand in his way, if he is 100% healthy...

No one has ever beaten me when i am 100% healthy. I can bagle Nadal if i am 100% healthy. I have never been 100% healthy though. And i do not foresee my becoming 100% healthy in the future with all the cheeseburgers and gallons of beer that goes in.

ghostbear
06-08-2009, 03:31 PM
You've been 100% right on all predictions that i've seen you make (Fed beating Nadal in their 20th meeting, Fed winning the french AND in straights, that he paid his curse of 13 dues in Melbourne) Lets see if your prediction is correct..because i kinda want Fedal SW19 R4

Nah. I'm sure he predicted Fed to win last year's Wimby.

Rickson
06-08-2009, 03:31 PM
Trust me, Darth, Federer has Wimbledon in the bag.

DarthFed
06-08-2009, 03:37 PM
So it is written? so it shall be (i hope lol)

onehandbh
06-08-2009, 03:38 PM
It's also possible that he tested positive for a banned
substance. Kissed the wrong girl at a party...

vtmike
06-08-2009, 03:38 PM
Nah. I'm sure he predicted Fed to win last year's Wimby.

Nope I remember he predicted that 2008 would be Nadal's year at Wimby...

DarthFed
06-08-2009, 03:42 PM
Nope I remember he predicted that 2008 would be Nadal's year at Wimby...

Nah he was referring to Ricksons predicitons

fedtastic
06-08-2009, 03:43 PM
I hope there is nothing wrong with Rafa and tests are OK. Not being able to defend his title would be very sad. I hope Rafa and Roger play another epic final and may the better player on the day win. I have a feeling things will be fine but he might require a surgery later on in the year probably after the US open.

Rickson
06-08-2009, 03:44 PM
I definitely didn't pick Nadal to win Wimbledon 08, but I did pick Federer to win at Flushing Meadows 08 when everyone else doubted him.

malakas
06-08-2009, 03:44 PM
it's funny how the same thing can be intepreted differently from people.We will know which version is right,tomorrow.:)

tennisfun1
06-08-2009, 03:45 PM
I hope there is nothing wrong with Rafa and tests are OK. Not being able to defend his title would be very sad. I hope Rafa and Roger play another epic final and may the better player on the day win. I have a feeling things will be fine but he might require a surgery later on in the year probably after the US open.

There is nothing wrong with him except regular tennis wear and tear.

DNShade
06-08-2009, 03:46 PM
ok.So he must have already taken the tests,and waits for the results.

Now where's that guy who says knows Nadal personally?

Already put in a call...Let you know what I hear back.

DarthFed
06-08-2009, 03:48 PM
I think he's fine..

You know for fun..i'll twist this...

"the Attention seeker Nadal wants to hog rogers spotlight while the world awaits his answer"

:D

icedevil0289
06-08-2009, 03:49 PM
I think he's fine..

You know for fun..i'll twist this...

"the Attention seeker Nadal wants to hog rogers spotlight while the world awaits his answer"

:D

Hahaha. Priceless. What an arrogant man.

malakas
06-08-2009, 03:49 PM
Already put in a call...Let you know what I hear back.

thanx man :) any info is welcomed!!

malakas
06-08-2009, 03:49 PM
I think he's fine..

You know for fun..i'll twist this...

"the Attention seeker Nadal wants to hog rogers spotlight while the world awaits his answer"

:D

I'm almost tempted to post this in LG's thread.:rolleyes:

tennisfun1
06-08-2009, 03:50 PM
I think he's fine..

You know for fun..i'll twist this...

"the Attention seeker Nadal wants to hog rogers spotlight while the world awaits his answer"

:D

+1

Issuing press releases on the condition of his knees, issuing a press release about a press release tomorrow, what's next ?

kimbahpnam
06-08-2009, 04:06 PM
"Rafa's durability" ... everyone saw this coming...it's just, now it's being realized. To be honest, I didn't think it'd be this soon either.

Aabye
06-08-2009, 04:06 PM
Rafa definitely fears Roger on grass.

Rafa fears no one! :) But who would want to face a guy who has won the tournament five times?

Aabye
06-08-2009, 04:07 PM
"Rafa's durability" ... everyone saw this coming...it's just, now it's being realized. To be honest, I didn't think it'd be this soon either.

We shall see. If it does turn out he is healthy for Wimby, then what'll ya have to say?

malakas
06-08-2009, 04:09 PM
We shall see. If it does turn out he is healthy for Wimby, then what'll ya have to say?

that we were right all along.:)

defrule
06-08-2009, 05:46 PM
He better return, who else has a grass game to stop Federer if he doesn't.

Serendipitous
06-08-2009, 05:49 PM
Please.....oh please......let him not be injured......:cry:

aleexxxxx
06-08-2009, 06:47 PM
Either way if rafa plays or not. If fed wins this title there will be excuses made by the nadal fans. "only reason fed won is because rafa didn't play" if rafa does play and lose "hes not 100%" I hope nadal does play and maybe him and sod can have a rematch of their wimby 07 encounter execpt this time rafa will be the one sent packing

Aabye
06-08-2009, 06:53 PM
Either way if rafa plays or not. If fed wins this title there will be excuses made by the nadal fans. "only reason fed won is because rafa didn't play" if rafa does play and lose "hes not 100%" I hope nadal does play and maybe him and sod can have a rematch of their wimby 07 encounter execpt this time rafa will be the one sent packing

No, it isn't right to judge one player's performance by another player's absence. But we won't have to worry about that, because hopefully the defending champ will play. And if he does, I don't want to see a single post about the state of grass play.

AprilFool
06-08-2009, 07:28 PM
Honestly I dont think Federer would be as satisfied if he won this Wimbledon without beating Rafa in the final.

I really don't think it matters to him either way. Last year was a bump in the road anyway.

AprilFool
06-08-2009, 07:29 PM
Nadal will play Wimbledon.

shadows
06-09-2009, 04:18 AM
So this announcement should be made in about 6 minutes time, I guess we'll know the news shortly. Fingers crossed for it to be good

rafan
06-09-2009, 04:27 AM
So this announcement should be made in about 6 minutes time, I guess we'll know the news shortly. Fingers crossed for it to be good

Yep think positive

thejoe
06-09-2009, 04:28 AM
I think he'll play.

jamesblakefan#1
06-09-2009, 04:32 AM
Still nothing on his website.

http://www.rafaelnadal.com/nadal/en/home

rafan
06-09-2009, 04:34 AM
Still nothing on his website.

http://www.rafaelnadal.com/nadal/en/home

Maybe he is preparing the announcement

KoolBeans
06-09-2009, 04:38 AM
commmmoooonnn, i wanna know. I hope Rafas okay.....

drakulie
06-09-2009, 04:38 AM
Maybe he is preparing the announcement

maybe he is too exhsuted to post. :)

iriraz
06-09-2009, 04:38 AM
I don`t understand one thing.Why does he have to announce today if he will play at Wimbledon?He has 2 weeks time to prepare for it and if his knee is in good shape by then,then he should play.But making a decision 2 weeks before doesn`t make a lot of sense.

yebo
06-09-2009, 04:41 AM
Its probably more of a, either the tests indicate he can or cant play

Rhino
06-09-2009, 04:41 AM
I heard that he will announce on Thursday.

Gingerbread Cookie
06-09-2009, 04:42 AM
I don`t understand one thing.Why does he have to announce today if he will play at Wimbledon?He has 2 weeks time to prepare for it and if his knee is in good shape by then,then he should play.But making a decision 2 weeks before doesn`t make a lot of sense.

I think he's having some sort of scan done today in Barcelona, which will show if his knees are in serious trouble (so Wimby would be ruled out, because surgery may have to be involved) or whether it's something that can be dealt with within the next two weeks. Let's see.

Rhino
06-09-2009, 04:43 AM
^^^ I mean Wednesday. It's written here:

"Nadal is to have more medical tests on his knees today and tommorrow, with an announcement about the results perhaps coming on Wednesday"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jun/08/andy-murray-wimbledon-roger-federer

shadows
06-09-2009, 04:47 AM
^^^ I mean Wednesday. It's written here:

"Nadal is to have more medical tests on his knees today and tommorrow, with an announcement about the results perhaps coming on Wednesday"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jun/08/andy-murray-wimbledon-roger-federer

Interesting, the original report said 1:30 today.

the bbc article now says

"The 22-year-old is expected to reveal later on Tuesday whether he will be able to compete at Wimbledon, which begins on 22 June"

so I guess we're still waiting one way or another ><

RalphNYC
06-09-2009, 04:50 AM
June 9 (Bloomberg) -- Defending champion Rafael Nadal says
he isn’t sure he’ll defend his Wimbledon tennis title. The
player is suffering from pain in both knees and says he won’t
take part unless he’s “100 percent.”
The Spaniard will travel to London six days before the
tournament, according to a statement released by his press
agent. His doctor says he’s suffering from tendinitis. His knees
have bothered him the last few months, Nadal said.
The world No. 1 in ATP Tour rankings had tests with a
doctor in Barcelona before making the announcement.
His withdrawal may help archrival Roger Federer’s chances
of winning the grass-court Grand Slam tournament a sixth time in
seven years. The event starts June 22.

crazylevity
06-09-2009, 04:52 AM
June 9 (Bloomberg) -- Defending champion Rafael Nadal says
he isnít sure heíll defend his Wimbledon tennis title. The
player is suffering from pain in both knees and says he wonít
take part unless heís ď100 percent.Ē
The Spaniard will travel to London six days before the
tournament, according to a statement released by his press
agent. His doctor says heís suffering from tendinitis. His knees
have bothered him the last few months, Nadal said.
The world No. 1 in ATP Tour rankings had tests with a
doctor in Barcelona before making the announcement.
His withdrawal may help archrival Roger Federerís chances
of winning the grass-court Grand Slam tournament a sixth time in
seven years. The event starts June 22.

There. If he plays, he's fit enough.

SikSerb
06-09-2009, 04:53 AM
I've read he should be releasing the statement today. It'd be devastating if he cant play.

harrpau7
06-09-2009, 04:53 AM
From BBC Sport

Rafael Nadal says he hopes to play at Wimbledon this year despite suffering from a knee injury

That is all it says at the moment.

Rhino
06-09-2009, 04:53 AM
Nadals website has crashed because everybody is on it.

His agent just said - He will travel on June 16th to London and he is willing to play at Wimbledon.

thejoe
06-09-2009, 04:54 AM
Sue Barker has just said that he will play, even though that is not what has actually been said.

Rhino
06-09-2009, 04:55 AM
Sue Barker has just said that he will play, even though that is not what has actually been said.

well she spoke to his agent and his agent said "he is willing to play".

RalphNYC
06-09-2009, 04:56 AM
The statement is out and I copied the news story in my last post. He says he doesn't know yet, and will wait and see.

harrpau7
06-09-2009, 04:58 AM
From Sky Sports News

Rafael Nadal has said that he will do all he can to be fit to defend his title.

Still not convinced.

Blue Drop
06-09-2009, 05:00 AM
I'm sure he'll play. (I hope he does.)

RalphNYC
06-09-2009, 05:00 AM
He has accute tendinitis in both knees. Anyone who knows what that means already understands that it's impossible to be 100% on June 22. One can't even be 100% on June 22, 2010 with that kind of problem.

Rhino
06-09-2009, 05:00 AM
Ok Sue Barker update, with a direct quote from Rafa:

"I will give 200% to be at 100% for the most important date in world tennis."

Sarzy
06-09-2009, 05:01 AM
Pat Cash was just saying how strange the whole situation is, ie releasing this statement etc. He thinks there is more to it.

rafan
06-09-2009, 05:01 AM
He has accute tendinitis in both knees. Anyone who knows what that means already understands that it's impossible to be 100% on June 22. One can't even be 100% on June 22, 2010 with that kind of problem.

Well he's had to live with this on and off for a long time so he may have learned to live with it

rafan
06-09-2009, 05:02 AM
Pat Cash was just saying how strange the whole situation is, ie releasing this statement etc. He thinks there is more to it.

Pat Cash does not exactly like Nadal> I never take any notice of this guy because I resent a sort of bitterness about him

RalphNYC
06-09-2009, 05:03 AM
You cant learn to live with it. It gets worse and worse until you cant walk. It would be suicide for his career if he attempted to play Wimbledon or US Open this year.

rafan
06-09-2009, 05:03 AM
Ok Sue Barker update, with a direct quote from Rafa:

"I will give 200% to be at 100% for the most important date in world tennis."

GO Rafa Go for it

iriraz
06-09-2009, 05:04 AM
Releasing such a statement is really pointless.We still don`t know if he will play or not.If he has really big problems with his knees wouldn`t it be the best decision to take a surgery.Sure he might miss the rest of the season but in the long term it will be helpful.

crazylevity
06-09-2009, 05:05 AM
This piquing of interest has gone a bit too far imho. Whether he enters or not, I feel Federer will win it due to his confidence being on a high.

That said, I hope he does enter. The biggest tournaments need the biggest players. Not to mention it may give Federer a chance to reclaim some ground on that h2h.

OTMPut
06-09-2009, 05:08 AM
June 9 (Bloomberg) --
His withdrawal may help archrival Roger Federerís chances
of winning the grass-court Grand Slam tournament a sixth time in
seven years. The event starts June 22.

The bloomberg reporter is 100% a *******.

thejoe
06-09-2009, 05:08 AM
Rafa should just man up and come out with it. Clearly all this waiting is designed to inform everyone that he is injured. Then, when he turns up for Wimbledon and loses early because he shouldn't have been there in the first place, the winner will have their victory discredited. Pathetic. If Nadal was to win without Federer present, you can bet your life savings that his win wouldn't be discredited. The media and fan double standards irritate me.

Still, I hope he is 100% and can compete. If he isn't, he shouldn't turn up.

Rhino
06-09-2009, 05:09 AM
Pat Cash does not exactly like Nadal> I never take any notice of this guy because I resent a sort of bitterness about him

well I'm listening to him now, commentating on the Roddick match, and I heard him talk about Rafa.

i don't think he sounds bitter at all. He was giving Rafa serious props as the main man to beat at Wimbledon and that it would be a shame if he wasn't there.

I actually think he's got a point about the fishyness. Straight after the Soderling defeat Uncle Tony was saying how Rafa played badly and was too nervous etc. Then we get the knee story out of nowhere, after no signs of impaired movement at RG, no trainer on court or any strapping.

It is a bit fishy.

Nadal_Freak
06-09-2009, 05:11 AM
Then we get the knee story out of nowhere, after no signs of impaired movement at RG, no trainer on court or any strapping.

It is a bit fishy.

You are just a hater if you think Nadal had no signs of impaired movement. I know how well Nadal can move when he is healthy. It was weird seeing him being so passive. This would explain it. Sad day about this info. Acute Tendinitis could be career ending.

pound cat
06-09-2009, 05:14 AM
Rafa should just man up and come out with it. Clearly all this waiting is designed to inform everyone that he is injured. Then, when he turns up for Wimbledon and loses early because he shouldn't have been there in the first place, the winner will have their victory discredited. Pathetic. If Nadal was to win without Federer present, you can bet your life savings that his win wouldn't be discredited. The media and fan double standards irritate me.

Still, I hope he is 100% and can compete. If he isn't, he shouldn't turn up.


He has com e out with a statement..on Bloomberg, now BBC has it

"Maybe yes, maybe no, it all depends"



"I will give 200% to be at 100% for the most important date in world tennis," said Nadal in a statement on Tuesday.

The Spaniard, who beat Roger Federer in a classic final in 2009, will now undergo intense rehabilitation ahead of the start of Wimbledon on 22 June.

He plans to travel to London on 16 June.


And the excitement for Wimbledon is mounting by the minute LOL and he did somewhat get the attention off Federer & RG

Nothing like professional sports

Rhino
06-09-2009, 05:15 AM
You are just a hater if you think Nadal had no signs of impaired movement. I know how well Nadal can move when he is healthy. It was weird seeing him being so passive. This would explain it. Sad day about this info. Acute Tendinitis could be career ending.

Are you kidding? I am no hater. I have seen Rafa play live all over the world... In New York, Toronto, Melbourne, London, Paris... I am a BIG fan.

It just doesn't tally with what Uncle T said after the match, and with his usual on court behavior during an injury.

PS: Out of interest, where have you seen him play?

Nuke
06-09-2009, 05:15 AM
So, how does one give 200% to be 100% for Wimbledon? Does he play any grass warmup events or does he sit out and rest the knees? Playing a warmup may aggrevate the knees, but coming into Wimbledon with no grass prep isn't really giving himself a good chance, is it?

Morrissey
06-09-2009, 05:16 AM
Best news I've heard in the last 10 days. Up there with Kaka signing with Madrid and soon to be CR7.

lambielspins
06-09-2009, 05:16 AM
You are just a hater if you think Nadal had no signs of impaired movement. I know how well Nadal can move when he is healthy. It was weird seeing him being so passive. This would explain it. Sad day about this info. Acute Tendinitis could be career ending.

Just like you are delusional if you think Nadal with his playing style wasnt always going to start dealing with this about a quarter of the way into his 20s. It was inevitable. He is a fighter and I am sure will deal as best he can, hopefully by ditching some of his poor decision making team and putting himself first more often. However it is laughable you think you can use any injury as excuses when injuries are always going to be part of who he is as a player with his playing style, extremely physical game, and poor scheduling choices. No I am not a Nadal hater either, just stating the fact.

I honestly wish he would dump his uncle. I think his uncle is largely to blame. He feels he cant say no to family. The Madrid event popping up when it did was bad news for him too. He probably felt he couldnt let down the promoters and organizers which is noble of him, but he should have put himself first in this case. If he had everything might be totally different right now.

bolo
06-09-2009, 05:16 AM
who besides ralphnyc says it's acute tendonitis? I don't see that in the press reports.

lambielspins
06-09-2009, 05:19 AM
Best news I've heard in the last 10 days. Up there with Kaka signing with Madrid and soon to be CR7.

Just out of curiosity if he shows up looking like he did at the 2007 U.S Open will you still think it was great news he is playing? I hope he does play in a sense as it would be a big loss for the event if he didnt, but if in the shape he was in at the 2007 U.S Open he would be far better off not playing at all. He was fortunate to escape his decision to play the 07 U.S Open not worse off in the long run than he was.

joeri888
06-09-2009, 05:20 AM
Best news I've heard in the last 10 days. Up there with Kaka signing with Madrid and soon to be CR7.

although Kaka will fail to bring the title to Madrid I think, Rafa's recovery is great news. He should be there. I think it isn't that serious. He's always got issues but he can easily play through them.

thejoe
06-09-2009, 05:20 AM
You are just a hater if you think Nadal had no signs of impaired movement. I know how well Nadal can move when he is healthy. It was weird seeing him being so passive. This would explain it. Sad day about this info. Acute Tendinitis could be career ending.

I honestly saw no signs of impaired movement in the Soderling match. That isn't me hating, it's just me being objective. He was being no more passive than usual, he was just playing an opponent who didn't mind the high ball and was painting lines at 1000 miles per hour. Nothing a defensive demon like Rafa can do about that.

What I've noticed about Rafa is, he just plays the way he plays, and either wins or loses. I know that sounds ridiculously simplistic, but it seems that when people are comfortable with the way he plays, he can't change it. His relative lack of variety leaves him helpless on those very rare occasions.

lambielspins
06-09-2009, 05:23 AM
What I've noticed about Rafa is, he just plays the way he plays, and either wins or loses. I know that sounds ridiculously simplistic, but it seems that when people are comfortable with the way he plays, he can't change it. His relative lack of variety leaves him helpless on those very rare occasions.

I actually dont think that is completely fair. I think Rafa is one of the smartest players on tour and will adapt to his opponent or during a match. Federer is actually far more stubborn than Rafa in their encounters.

thejoe
06-09-2009, 05:24 AM
I actually dont think that is completely fair. I think Rafa is one of the smartest players on tour and will adapt to his opponent or during a match. Federer is actually far more stubborn than Rafa in their encounters.

He doesn't adapt, he is just usually far superior.

RalphNYC
06-09-2009, 05:36 AM
http://mskcases.com/index.php?module=article&view=38

rafan
06-09-2009, 05:39 AM
Are you kidding? I am no hater. I have seen Rafa play live all over the world... In New York, Toronto, Melbourne, London, Paris... I am a BIG fan.

It just doesn't tally with what Uncle T said after the match, and with his usual on court behavior during an injury.

PS: Out of interest, where have you seen him play?

I think he looked a bit lacklustre behind the eyes to be honest and I am really being impartial because Soderling did play very well. To be honest I think also he was not ready for the game Soderling came out with and it must have been one heck of a shock

tennisplaya
06-09-2009, 05:39 AM
latest news

Rafa still a doubt (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12110_5370974,00.html)
Defending champion hopeful of being fit for start of Wimbledon

Rafael Nadal says he will be giving it everything to be fit for the defence of his Wimbledon title, but he is still not sure if he will be able to line-up at SW19.

The world number one's knee injury flared up as he was knocked out of the French Open for the first time at Roland Garros, and it has forced him to miss the Wimbledon warm-up event at Queen's Club.

Nadal is now facing a race against time to be fit for the start of Wimbledon on June 22, and he is still unsure of his fitness.

After having tests on his knee in Barcelona, Nadal said he would be fighting as hard as possible to make Wimbledon.

"I will give 200 percent to be at 100 percent for the most important date in world tennis," the Spaniard said in a statement.

Nadal said he will be travelling to London on June 16 in anticipation of making the tournament, but he must still be a doubt to step out on the court in defence of his title.

bolo
06-09-2009, 05:41 AM
latest news

Rafa still a doubt (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12110_5370974,00.html)
Defending champion hopeful of being fit for start of Wimbledon

Rafael Nadal says he will be giving it everything to be fit for the defence of his Wimbledon title, but he is still not sure if he will be able to line-up at SW19.

The world number one's knee injury flared up as he was knocked out of the French Open for the first time at Roland Garros, and it has forced him to miss the Wimbledon warm-up event at Queen's Club.

Nadal is now facing a race against time to be fit for the start of Wimbledon on June 22, and he is still unsure of his fitness.

After having tests on his knee in Barcelona, Nadal said he would be fighting as hard as possible to make Wimbledon.

"I will give 200 percent to be at 100 percent for the most important date in world tennis," the Spaniard said in a statement.

Nadal said he will be travelling to London on June 16 in anticipation of making the tournament, but he must still be a doubt to step out on the court in defence of his title.

Should be an exciting wimbledon. He will go in cold and win the title! :)

edmondsm
06-09-2009, 05:41 AM
I know he loves Wimbledon, and is defending his title, but if his health is really in doubt why not take some serious time off. He might actually be physically prepared for the summer hardcourts for once, maybe win the US Open. It's the only trophy not on his mantle, he's already had a strong reign at #1. Why push it?

Trainer
06-09-2009, 05:44 AM
http://mskcases.com/index.php?module=article&view=38

I've had this, if it's what Rafa has, I don't think he'll play, or he shouldn't. The pain is very acute and you simply can't ignore it. I wasn't able to play or run from late October to January because of it. I had a cortisone injection and took prescription NSAID's(Arthrotec). I'm back to my normal activity again, but at the time, playing on it was out of the question.

120mphBodyServe
06-09-2009, 05:49 AM
If he plays, he won't defend his title and he'll only do himself more damage. If he doesn't play, he might lose the no1 ranking.
Personally I'm sick of waiting... It's like...
"Oh look at me world!!! I'm injured!!!! I couldn't defend RG!!!! Why is my body breaking down!??!?!" Waa waa waa...

Morrissey
06-09-2009, 05:54 AM
although Kaka will fail to bring the title to Madrid I think, Rafa's recovery is great news. He should be there. I think it isn't that serious. He's always got issues but he can easily play through them.

Kaka alone will probably fail to bring the title, but Kaka, Ronaldo, Ribery, Villa, Silva and Albiol will bring it, no problemo.

jrod
06-09-2009, 05:56 AM
I don't think there is anything odd about the statement. We all know he has had tendonitis in his knees. He pulled out of Queen's presumably to rest. The obvious question that comes to everyone's mind is whether or not he will play Wimby...hence his statement.

I hope he plays, but I have my doubts about his ability to play at 100%.

Morrissey
06-09-2009, 05:58 AM
He'll be there. Will not playing Queens affect his grass game? Some say the less you play on it the more it helps. At least Agassi said that. Who knows really? I'm just happy he's going.

ghostbear
06-09-2009, 06:02 AM
I don't know if this has been posted already, but here's what his doctor said:

Doctor Angel Ruiz-Cotorro, the Spanish Federation doctor and Managing Director of the Mapfre Medical Tennis Center:

"After the appropriate tests (MRI, Ultrasound scans and gammagraphy) Mr. Rafael Nadal suffers from insertion tendonitis in the superior end of both kneecaps with a light osseous edema.

His treatment will involve oral anti-inflammatories, physiotherapy as well as progressive muscular exercises for both quadriceps's.

Following the 48-hour treatment, Mr. Nadal will gradually get back into training progressively."

wksoh
06-09-2009, 06:09 AM
I don't know if this has been posted already, but he's what his doctor said:

Doctor Angel Ruiz-Cotorro, the Spanish Federation doctor and Managing Director of the Mapfre Medical Tennis Center:

"After the appropriate tests (MRI, Ultrasound scans and gammagraphy) Mr. Rafael Nadal suffers from insertion tendonitis in the superior end of both kneecaps with a light osseous edema.

His treatment will involve oral anti-inflammatories, physiotherapy as well as progressive muscular exercises for both quadriceps's.

Following the 48-hour treatment, Mr. Nadal will gradually get back into training progressively."

Blame uncle Toni for making him play so much during clay season.

rafan
06-09-2009, 06:10 AM
I looked it up on a website and the first tretament recommended was rest and also stretching the limb before playing. I t seems it is also called jumpers knee. Sounds really painful

mrmo1115
06-09-2009, 06:15 AM
If Nadal drops out, we will be experiencing #15 for the GOAT

bolo
06-09-2009, 06:18 AM
I don't know if this has been posted already, but he's what his doctor said:

Doctor Angel Ruiz-Cotorro, the Spanish Federation doctor and Managing Director of the Mapfre Medical Tennis Center:

"After the appropriate tests (MRI, Ultrasound scans and gammagraphy) Mr. Rafael Nadal suffers from insertion tendonitis in the superior end of both kneecaps with a light osseous edema.

"

It will be another exercise in the nadal mind over matter. :)

Vamos,

sh@de
06-09-2009, 06:20 AM
Vamos Rafa! Play Wimby!

rommil
06-09-2009, 06:28 AM
I looked it up on a website and the first tretament recommended was rest and also stretching the limb before playing. I t seems it is also called jumpers knee. Sounds really painful

You mean pre match jumping jumper's knee?

tennisplaya
06-09-2009, 06:37 AM
another report:

Defence in the balance: Nadal (http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Sport/Story/STIStory_388063.html)

MADRID - RAFAEL Nadal's defence of his Wimbledon singles title is hanging in the balance after the world number one admitted he was struggling to overcome a bout of tendinitis in both knees.

The Spaniard pulled out of this week's warm-up tournament at Queen's and is facing a race against time to regain 100 per cent fitness, without which he said he would not try to defend his crown.

'I have been playing with pain in my knees for some months now and I simply can't go on like this,' Nadal wrote on his website, www.rafaelnadal.com, on Tuesday.

'The pain was limiting certain movements in my body, which affected me mentally as well. After the tests, and with the appropriate treatment, we have decided to travel to London next Tuesday, June 16.

'I am going to give 200 per cent to be ready for the most important tournament in the world. The tournament that I always dream about. I will not go out and play, especially on the Wimbledon Centre Court, if I am not 100 per cent ready to play.'

The player's uncle and lifelong coach Toni Nadal said in Paris last week that the 23-year-old had injured his right knee and was doubtful for Wimbledon, which starts on June 22.

Nadal's four-year reign at Roland Garros came to a shock end on May 31 when he was beaten in the fourth round by Sweden's Robin Soderling.

On Friday, he announced he had withdrawn from this week's Wimbledon warm-up tournament at Queen's after being told by doctors he needs to rest his knees.

Nadal's victory at Queen's last year proved to be the perfect platform for an assault on the Wimbledon crown with the Spaniard overcoming Roger Federer in a classic, five-set final. -- AFP

makinao
06-09-2009, 06:38 AM
I looked it up on a website and the first tretament recommended was rest and also stretching the limb before playing. I t seems it is also called jumpers knee. Sounds really painful

Yes, it can very painful. Getting in to a car, driving, climbing stairs, uncrossing your legs, even getting up from bed is terrible. I got it three years ago, first in one knee, then the other knee from compensating. It took 4 months of rest, therapy, anti-inflamatory's, and strengthening exercises for the pain to go away, and a couple of months to re-learn how to run again. I got it again this past February from playing a club hard court singles tournament, and am just starting to put the spring back in my step.

I wonder how Nadal has coped with it for so long (if Im not mistaken, since Wimbledon 2007). Although I expect Nadal to recover much faster since he is young (I got it when I was 47), the problem is it can haunt you because you never know when it will flare up again.

malakas
06-09-2009, 06:45 AM
am I the only one who finds this whold situation with the statements and the media stupid?:rolleyes:

So,even after the "official" statement we don't know if he's gonna play or not.

8PAQ
06-09-2009, 06:46 AM
If Nadal drops out, we will be experiencing #15 for the GOAT

If Nadal stays and plays as well as he did last year, we will be experiencing #15 for the GOAT.

rommil
06-09-2009, 06:47 AM
You know if this was Federer that lost early in the previous GS and Nadal won and Federer making all this waves about an injury and how uncertain he is entering Wimby, Nadal fans would have been all over it already, claiming Federer's taking the limelight again. The Nadal camp has been a bit of an attention hog lately with Uncle Tony blabbering about the French and now this. Can they just go about it a bit more quietly?

malakas
06-09-2009, 06:49 AM
You know if this was Federer that lost early in the previous GS and Nadal won and Federer making all this waves about an injury and how uncertain he is entering Wimby, Nadal fans would have been all over it already, claiming Federer's taking the limelight again. The Nadal camp has been a bit of an attention hog lately with Uncle Tony blabbering about the French and now this. Can they just go about it a bit more quietly?

shows how much more class Fed fans have.We don't care to go down to their level.

roddickfan91
06-09-2009, 06:54 AM
good to hear, any grand slam without the champion is a loss, and its good news because murray probably won't make the final now

Mick
06-09-2009, 06:56 AM
i don't know guys, even when he's at 100%, it's difficult for nadal to win wimbledon (although he had made it to the final twice and won it last year). IMO a less than 100% nadal will have problem with lesser players, let alone djokovic, murray, and federer.

rommil
06-09-2009, 06:56 AM
show how much more class Fed fans have.We don't care to go down to their level.

Lol I'm a Fed fan and I had my share of "unclassiness" here so I can't and don't want to claim classy. You can. I'm just calling it as it is.

rafan
06-09-2009, 06:59 AM
well I'm listening to him now, commentating on the Roddick match, and I heard him talk about Rafa.

i don't think he sounds bitter at all. He was giving Rafa serious props as the main man to beat at Wimbledon and that it would be a shame if he wasn't there.

I actually think he's got a point about the fishyness. Straight after the Soderling defeat Uncle Tony was saying how Rafa played badly and was too nervous etc. Then we get the knee story out of nowhere, after no signs of impaired movement at RG, no trainer on court or any strapping.

It is a bit fishy.

Well I am referring to previous articles I have read from him- he contributes in the Sunday Times and some of the things he has said were a bit off to say the least. I can't quote now because I don't have a copy but I remember thinking that he doesn't care much for Nadal. He also has to be careful what he says live on the BBC

malakas
06-09-2009, 06:59 AM
Lol I'm a Fed fan and I had my share of "unclassiness" here so I can't and don't want to claim classy. You can. I'm just calling it as it is.

good for you to admit it,but all the time I find the Nadalfans on the attacking end and the Fedfans on the defending end of such situation.Rarely the opossite..Funny thing?even now there are threads made comparing Federer to Soderling saying he was unclassy because he was human and cried whereas Nadal himself and uncle Toni have created all this melodrama here.

bolo
06-09-2009, 06:59 AM
i don't know guys, even when he's at 100%, it's difficult for nadal to win wimbledon (although he had made it to the final twice and won it last year). IMO a less than 100% nadal will have problem with lesser players, let alone djokovic, murray, and federer.

Yeah he is going to need an easy draw or for a not so difficult draw to open up. Let's see if that happens.

zagor
06-09-2009, 07:01 AM
I still think Nadal will play Wimbledon,I will be very surprised if he doesn't regardless of the results of this tests.

Yeah he is going to need an easy draw or for a not so difficult draw to open up. Let's see if that happens.

That's impossible,Nadal never had an easy draw in his life.

joeri888
06-09-2009, 07:01 AM
am I the only one who finds this whold situation with the statements and the media stupid?:rolleyes:

So,even after the "official" statement we don't know if he's gonna play or not.

That statement was a total non-issue. I have absolutely no idea why the Rafa-camp decided to tell the world that Nadal was going to get himself tested and would announce the result. He could have said nothing and see what the results are. Now the results are 'inconclusive' and he's coming out with... with what actually? that he's gonna try. I think he'll make it, but I had expected a lot more cleared up if you come up with an official statement.

bolo
06-09-2009, 07:03 AM
Well I am referring to previous articles I have read from him- he contributes in the Sunday Times and some of the things he has said were a bit off to say the least. I can't quote now because I don't have a copy but I remember thinking that he doesn't care much for Nadal. He also has to be careful what he says live on the BBC

Cash is probably on the bottom end of the commentator spectrum. I don't think he singles out rafa, he is probably like that to everyone.

PatrickB
06-09-2009, 07:04 AM
So, how does one give 200% to be 100% for Wimbledon? Does he play any grass warmup events or does he sit out and rest the knees? Playing a warmup may aggrevate the knees, but coming into Wimbledon with no grass prep isn't really giving himself a good chance, is it?

See, just playing a grass warmup event or just sitting out and going through physical therapy would only be giving 100% to be at 100% for Wimbledon, which is he'll do both! Now, you might says that you can't both sit out from an event and play in it, but since this is Rafa, he's figured out how he can so he can give his fans 200% to be ready for Wimbledon. Two words:

Wheelchair Tennis. :)

bolo
06-09-2009, 07:04 AM
That statement was a total non-issue. I have absolutely no idea why the Rafa-camp decided to tell the world that Nadal was going to get himself tested and would announce the result. He could have said nothing and see what the results are. Now the results are 'inconclusive' and he's coming out with... with what actually? that he's gonna try. I think he'll make it, but I had expected a lot more cleared up if you come up with an official statement.

what got cleared up was that there is nothing more than the usual problem of tendonitis. That's real information right there that all nadal and tennis fans are interested in knowing.

malakas
06-09-2009, 07:04 AM
That statement was a total non-issue. I have absolutely no idea why the Rafa-camp decided to tell the world that Nadal was going to get himself tested and would announce the result. He could have said nothing and see what the results are. Now the results are 'inconclusive' and he's coming out with... with what actually? that he's gonna try. I think he'll make it, but I had expected a lot more cleared up if you come up with an official statement.

yes.Especially if you make statement about the realising of the official statement the next day.And he says he's gonna try..Like we didn't know that.
Too much hype,too much attention..And the funny thing?All this could easily backfire back to them.If he shouts to the world that he's injured,maybe more players will think they have more of a chance against him,and give their..200% :rolleyes: when they play him.

Morpheus
06-09-2009, 07:05 AM
"I am going to give my 200 percent to be ready for the most important tournament in the world," Nadal said. "I will not go out and play, especially on the Wimbledon Centre Court, if I am not 100 percent ready to play."

At least we know he will never be a math teacher...

bolo
06-09-2009, 07:05 AM
See, just playing a grass warmup event or just sitting out and going through physical therapy would only be giving 100% to be at 100% for Wimbledon, which is he'll do both! Now, you might says that you can't both sit out from an event and play in it, but since this is Rafa, he's figured out how he can so he can give his fans 200% to be ready for Wimbledon. Two words:

Wheelchair Tennis. :)

lol. :) I watched some wheel chair tennis at the U.S. open a couple of years back, it was amazing.

rommil
06-09-2009, 07:09 AM
See, just playing a grass warmup event or just sitting out and going through physical therapy would only be giving 100% to be at 100% for Wimbledon, which is he'll do both! Now, you might says that you can't both sit out from an event and play in it, but since this is Rafa, he's figured out how he can so he can give his fans 200% to be ready for Wimbledon. Two words:

Wheelchair Tennis. :)

Hahah I was just going to say that. I checked the Wimbledon website and seems like they only have doubles. Maybe with Uncle Toni, no?

rommil
06-09-2009, 07:10 AM
lol. :) I watched some wheel chair tennis at the U.S. open a couple of years back, it was amazing.

And you never hear them complain how they are not "100%".

joeri888
06-09-2009, 07:12 AM
That's impossible,Nadal never had an easy draw in his life.
Nadal had such a tough draw at FO again, he had Soderling in his draw. At AO 2007 he had Gonzales, at AO 2008 he had Tsonga, at AO 2009 he had Verdasco, he's always so unlucky to have all the tough guys in his draw. US Open he had a redhot murray in his part of the draw, at Wimbledon last year he had to defeat grasscourt giants like Andy Murray, Ernie Gulbis and Rainer Scheuttler, he had Murray in his half of the draw AGAIN this FO and Murray obviously made it further than Djokovic so was a tougher draw.. Rafa's a really poor guy being up against that big a conspiracy.

Nadal_Freak
06-09-2009, 07:13 AM
This is the exact same kind of tendinitis I have. I have trouble running on balance. It really messes with your movement and it flares up often. Poor Rafa. :(

bolo
06-09-2009, 07:13 AM
And you never hear them complain how they are not "100%".

lol. You obviously don't subscribe to wheel chair tennis magazine. :)

joeri888
06-09-2009, 07:17 AM
what got cleared up was that there is nothing more than the usual problem of tendonitis. That's real information right there that all nadal and tennis fans are interested in knowing.

Yes I know, I wasn't that interested because I wasn't really worried it was that serious. I'm not saying Rafa fakes injuries, but Toni always exaggerates his injuries and how it's so great that Rafa still plays (in every not-event that tennis is rich including Dubai, Barcelona, Rotterdam and Doha this year as well as some doubles).

It would have been more logical to say nothing, do the tests and after the tests come say you did some tests and there was nothing to really worry about apart from the usual problems. It's not a big deal he did it another way, but it just seems a bit dumb to make a statement that you are gonna announce a statement which ends up being inconclusive as well.

marc45
06-09-2009, 07:17 AM
somebody just posted a link on the nadal article on espn about this, and it's about something called prolotherapy where you shoot plasma into the knees for healing....hines ward of the steelers was able to play in the super bowl because of it apparently....of course sampras took cortisone shots at wimby 2000 into his shin, and agassi had multiple shots for his back near the end of his career....sounds like the nadal people aren't ready to go to those places yet

Purostaff
06-09-2009, 07:19 AM
No one can say that tennis isn't full of drama of one kind or another.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/8085394.stm

Drama = publicity = $$$

Nadal_Freak
06-09-2009, 07:20 AM
The important thing is Nadal is finally looking for ways to get better. He shouldn't have waited so long though.

rommil
06-09-2009, 07:21 AM
good for you to admit it,but all the time I find the Nadalfans on the attacking end and the Fedfans on the defending end of such situation.Rarely the opossite..Funny thing?even now there are threads made comparing Federer to Soderling saying he was unclassy because he was human and cried whereas Nadal himself and uncle Toni have created all this melodrama here.

I don't doubt that there are some physical issues Rafa is dealing with now but I honestly feel now that the Nadal camp is having a lot of pressure dealing with Rafa being number 1. I feel that Nadal will do better when he is reaching for something as opposed to maintaining it. I eventually thought that he would get there but curious as well as how he will handle it. I thought his recent losses so far were more related to pressure. Against Federer, who Rafa allegedly owns, Nadal loses in the finals, in Rafa's homecountry, on clay( oh that altitude BS, newsflash he is from Spain). Then Soderling, at the French Open, on Rafa's purported backyard/living room whatever you want to call it. I would not be surprised if he drops back to 2 and start playing much better again.

rommil
06-09-2009, 07:22 AM
lol. You obviously don't subscribe to wheel chair tennis magazine. :)

No I don't. Sorry. So it would not be surprising to see Rafa and Serena on the cover? How to play under 100%?

bolo
06-09-2009, 07:24 AM
Yes I know, I wasn't that interested because I wasn't really worried it was that serious. I'm not saying Rafa fakes injuries, but Toni always exaggerates his injuries and how it's so great that Rafa still plays (in every not-event that tennis is rich including Dubai, Barcelona, Rotterdam and Doha this year as well as some doubles).

It would have been more logical to say nothing, do the tests and after the tests come say you did some tests and there was nothing to really worry about apart from the usual problems. It's not a big deal he did it another way, but it just seems a bit dumb to make a statement that you are gonna announce a statement which ends up being inconclusive as well.

Logical for whom? federer fans maybe. I am sure all nadal fans appreciated the scheduled release of new info. and the fact that it's more of the same. Good call after the withdrawal from queens.

joeri888
06-09-2009, 07:24 AM
The important thing is Nadal is finally looking for ways to get better. He shouldn't have waited so long though.

True, it's good that he tries something different. His schedule though, should have looked like this:

1. Doha
2. AO
3. IW (maybe Dubai, no Rotterdam)
4. Miami
5. Monte Carlo
6. Rome
7. Roland Garros

Instead, he's played Rotterdam immediately after AO, played Barcelona, played Davis Cup, which he should have skipped, played Madrid, which he didn't like anyway. He shouldn't feel so obligated to play every single tournament. If you want to be THE big man in tennis you'll need to be more egocentric. Nadal's a real gentleman but he's got to take care of his body. He can learn a lot in that respect from guys like Federer and Sampras. Federer plays no Davis Cup, drops out of Dubai because he doesn't feel well enough, doesn't play Estoril again to save himself. He's five years older, yet more fit going into the Slams. That's weird and Rafa should do something about it.

mikethehamster
06-09-2009, 07:27 AM
i'll believe him if he skips wimbledon, but i don't think he will!

rommil
06-09-2009, 07:28 AM
True, it's good that he tries something different. His schedule though, should have looked like this:

1. Doha
2. AO
3. IW (maybe Dubai, no Rotterdam)
4. Miami
5. Monte Carlo
6. Rome
7. Roland Garros

Instead, he's played Rotterdam immediately after AO, played Barcelona, played Davis Cup, which he should have skipped, played Madrid, which he didn't like anyway. He shouldn't feel so obligated to play every single tournament. If you want to be THE big man in tennis you'll need to be more egocentric. Nadal's a real gentleman but he's got to take care of his body. He can learn a lot in that respect from guys like Federer and Sampras. Federer plays no Davis Cup, drops out of Dubai because he doesn't feel well enough, doesn't play Estoril again to save himself. He's five years older, yet more fit going into the Slams. That's weird and Rafa should do something about it.

The Nadal camp got too hungry...

Nadal_Freak
06-09-2009, 07:30 AM
I can tell you from experience that rest alone will not heal you from acute tendinitis. Nadal has the ability of getting the best healing options in the world. Which gives me hope he can find a way to beat this pain.

bolo
06-09-2009, 07:30 AM
No I don't. Sorry. So it would not be surprising to see Rafa and Serena on the cover? How to play under 100%?

yeah with fed. in the background sweating profusely from the mono. All under 100%. :( :)

marc45
06-09-2009, 07:30 AM
the good news for nadal is the long break after wimby before the u.s. open, extra week and no olympics.....let's face it, rafa needs a u.s. open now to match roger's career slam and he might have a chance to go into flushing with a lot of rest...maybe even skipping canada and just go with cinci

bolo
06-09-2009, 07:32 AM
the good news for nadal is the long break after wimby before the u.s. open, extra week and no olympics.....let's face it, rafa needs a u.s. open now to match roger's career slam and he might have a chance to go into flushing with a lot of rest...maybe even skipping canada and just go with cinci

I think he's got davis cup soon after wimbledon.

rommil
06-09-2009, 07:32 AM
yeah with fed. in the background sweating profusely from the mono. All under 100%. :( :)

At least the diagnosis was confirmed right?

bolo
06-09-2009, 07:35 AM
At least the diagnosis was confirmed right?

was it? by the Atp?

rommil
06-09-2009, 07:37 AM
was it? by the Atp?

No I am asking you. You are the one that said mono. NM. Back to Nadal. Sorry for the derailment.

RalphNYC
06-09-2009, 07:37 AM
'Doctors determined he had "insertion tendonitis in
the superior end of both kneecaps with a light osseous edema." They said
treatment would include anti-inflammatory drugs and physiotherapy.'

RalphNYC
06-09-2009, 07:40 AM
"I've had tendonitis for years and years. On a positive side for Rafa, it's uncomfortable and it's painful, but it's not something that's going to be a career threatening injury if you play on it," Roddick said. "It's kind of a fancy term for overuse. I don't think that in my mind I ever thought that his Wimbledon defence was in jeopardy.
"Rafa has had knee tendonitis for a long time and he's won Grand Slams while he's had it. I'm certainly not going to underestimate Rafa.
"I think he's going to be there. I think he's going to be fine, and I think he's going to put forth all the effort he has. He's certainly proven that in the past."

marc45
06-09-2009, 07:43 AM
I think he's got davis cup soon after wimbledon.
well, there you go bolo...i forgot about that, but that most likely will have to be skipped, and considering spain's depth, and the fact that rafa's already helped them to two championships (two more than federer) i don't see how anyone, in particular spanish fans would have any problem with that

vmosrafa08
06-09-2009, 07:44 AM
Do you guys know yet?

bolo
06-09-2009, 07:47 AM
well, there you go bolo...i forgot about that, but that most likely will have to be skipped, and considering spain's depth, and the fact that rafa's already helped them to two championships (two more than federer) i don't see how anyone, in particular spanish fans would have any problem with that

Yeah he's got to win wimbledon and take some time off. THat's all there is to it! :)

The-Champ
06-09-2009, 07:50 AM
well I'm listening to him now, commentating on the Roddick match, and I heard him talk about Rafa.

i don't think he sounds bitter at all. He was giving Rafa serious props as the main man to beat at Wimbledon and that it would be a shame if he wasn't there.

I actually think he's got a point about the fishyness. Straight after the Soderling defeat Uncle Tony was saying how Rafa played badly and was too nervous etc. Then we get the knee story out of nowhere, after no signs of impaired movement at RG, no trainer on court or any strapping.
It is a bit fishy.

actually, during rafa's first round match at the FO, the swedish commentators from Eurosport said that Rafa had to take cortisone shots to his knees right after the semi-final match against Djokovic in Madrid.

Anyway, I do think rafa has always played with knee injuries, sometimes better and sometimes worse. He should probably rest for 6 months and come back stronger.

rommil
06-09-2009, 08:05 AM
Do you guys know yet?

Oh don't worry, you won't miss it. It will be so big of a fanfare you will see a ticker tape in your living room.

rafan
06-09-2009, 08:07 AM
actually, during rafa's first round match at the FO, the swedish commentators from Eurosport said that Rafa had to take cortisone shots to his knees right after the semi-final match against Djokovic in Madrid.

Anyway, I do think rafa has always played with knee injuries, sometimes better and sometimes worse. He should probably rest for 6 months and come back stronger.

Well this does not surprise me and to come from the swedish commentators it must be true.

JeMar
06-09-2009, 08:07 AM
He'll be at Wimbledon.

lawrence
06-09-2009, 08:13 AM
I can tell you from experience that rest alone will not heal you from acute tendinitis. Nadal has the ability of getting the best healing options in the world. Which gives me hope he can find a way to beat this pain.

sadly this is true, even as a casual tennis player i can relate. if my knees flare up theres no way im playing tennis for the next few days or itll just continuously be in pain
i cant imagine what it would be like for nadal, playing 3hour matches constantly

bolo
06-09-2009, 08:20 AM
Do you guys know yet?

Still waiting for ATP confirmation vmosrafa08. I wonder if that is ever going to come?

joeri888
06-09-2009, 08:22 AM
Still waiting for ATP confirmation vmosrafa08. I wonder if that is ever going to come?

What do they need to confirm and why?

Lsmkenpo
06-09-2009, 08:23 AM
Lost some respect for Nadal, with the press announcement that is obviously for publicity. Than you see pictures of him out on a jetski, poor little Rafa, get well soon. What a joke:twisted:

CCNM
06-09-2009, 08:25 AM
Why can't these players just come out and say I'm not playing X-tournament because I need to take a break? Do they think they'll look like wimps?

bolo
06-09-2009, 08:25 AM
What do they need to confirm and why?

Just playing around joeri. :)

rommil
06-09-2009, 08:26 AM
Lost some respect for Nadal, with the press announcement that is obviously for publicity. Than you see pictures of him out on a jetski, poor little Rafa, get well soon. What a joke:twisted:
I am not sure of the dates of the jetski pics. I read somewhere here those were older.

sramirez77
06-09-2009, 08:27 AM
Lost some respect for Nadal, with the press announcement that is obviously for publicity. Than you see pictures of him out on a jetski, poor little Rafa, get well soon. What a joke:twisted:

No one's saying he can't walk...only that he may not be able to play top-level tennis in a couple of weeks (which, as I'm sure you know, is VERY hard on the knees). RIDING on a jetski is a bit different :roll:

RalphNYC
06-09-2009, 08:28 AM
riding a jetski and playing 5 sets of pro-level tennis 7 times in a 2-week period are vastly different things. It's amazing how judgmental people are on this forum and everywhere else in the world. Think before you make your mind up. The world will be a much better place.

Lsmkenpo
06-09-2009, 08:31 AM
No one's saying he can't walk...only that he may not be able to play top-level tennis in a couple of weeks (which, as I'm sure you know, is VERY hard on the knees). RIDING on a jetski is a bit different :roll:

Yeah you are right your knees take no pounding when you are out there hitting waves have you ever jetskied? That is not resting your knees sorry.

sramirez77
06-09-2009, 08:32 AM
riding a jetski and playing 5 sets of pro-level tennis 7 times in a 2-week period are vastly different things. It's amazing how judgmental people are on this forum and everywhere else in the world. Think before you make your mind up. The world will be a much better place.

Excellent post. I'm amazed at how a few people here have just been piling on Nadal for discussing what is a completely legitimate injury. I don't know if by admitting Nadal is injured they feel it somehow takes away from Fed's FO win (which IMO it doesn't), but the hatred from some people here is really making me sick.

sramirez77
06-09-2009, 08:34 AM
Yeah you are right your knees take no pounding when you are out there hitting waves have you ever jetskied? That is not resting your knees sorry.

Incidentally, I have -- and unless you're riding like a maniac (which I'm sure he wasn't given his girlfriend was with him), it is not bad at all on your knees and NOTHING like playing tennis (which I also do).

Lsmkenpo
06-09-2009, 08:37 AM
riding a jetski and playing 5 sets of pro-level tennis 7 times in a 2-week period are vastly different things. It's amazing how judgmental people are on this forum and everywhere else in the world. Think before you make your mind up. The world will be a much better place.

No you missed the point entirely, not comparing jetski to tennis , the point is,the guy is out jetskiing around instead of resting his knees and than calls a press conference saying he will give it 200% to recover for wimbledon, jetskiing is not giving it 200% to recover.

crazylevity
06-09-2009, 08:39 AM
Why can't these players just come out and say I'm not playing X-tournament because I need to take a break? Do they think they'll look like wimps?

http://www.rogerfederer.com/en/rogers/news/newsdetail.cfm?uNewsID=922

Federer: "...I need to rest and recuperate."

Lsmkenpo
06-09-2009, 08:41 AM
Incidentally, I have -- and unless you're riding like a maniac (which I'm sure he wasn't given his girlfriend was with him), it is not bad at all on your knees and NOTHING like playing tennis (which I also do).

Yeah your right, he is taking it easy here, with his girlfriend which one is she?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/07/article-1191397-053EC705000005DC-628_468x344.jpg

sramirez77
06-09-2009, 08:46 AM
Yeah your right, he is taking it easy here, with his girlfriend which one is she?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/07/article-1191397-053EC705000005DC-628_468x344.jpg

:lol: You're definitely persistent on this one...but if he wasn't taking it easy, that guy on the back would be in the water. I've done this exact thing before and I almost went right off when we picked up too much speed.

Show me one of him standing up with his jetski a couple of feet in the air and maybe I'll agree with you.

Lsmkenpo
06-09-2009, 08:51 AM
I have a torn ACL seems like a good reason to go out and get myself a jetski for recovery purposes only.

ghostbear
06-09-2009, 08:53 AM
I have a torn ACL seems like a good reason to go out and get myself a jetski for recovery purposes only.

Sure, why not? Try it.

Cesc Fabregas
06-09-2009, 09:10 AM
Cash is probably on the bottom end of the commentator spectrum. I don't think he singles out rafa, he is probably like that to everyone.

He seems to dislike Djokovic alot he has never said a good thing about Djoker and isn't to fond of Nadal either a few weeks ago he was having ago at Federer aswell I think in Miami but he loves Andy Murray for some reason he always praises him.

IvanAndreevich
06-09-2009, 09:19 AM
Ok so is he playing or what?

TennezSport
06-09-2009, 09:21 AM
"I've had tendonitis for years and years. On a positive side for Rafa, it's uncomfortable and it's painful, but it's not something that's going to be a career threatening injury if you play on it," Roddick said. "It's kind of a fancy term for overuse. I don't think that in my mind I ever thought that his Wimbledon defence was in jeopardy.
"Rafa has had knee tendonitis for a long time and he's won Grand Slams while he's had it. I'm certainly not going to underestimate Rafa.
"I think he's going to be there. I think he's going to be fine, and I think he's going to put forth all the effort he has. He's certainly proven that in the past."

While Roddick has a point here, it's really a matter of how bad this injury really is. We know its chronic after seeing Rafa deal with this issue for 4.5 years, but if it's bad this time it can lead to a worse injury, like a torn ACL, MCL or patella.

Remember what happened to Philippoussis at Wimbly against Sampras??? Mark never really recovered his movement after he shreaded both the ACL and MCL in his left knee after suffering from tendonitis (it does weaken the ligaments over time if not properly rested and treated).

Rafa started this years ago when he began chasing Fed and last year he accomplished his mission, but at what price. This year he has to defend all of those points just to stay even and again at what cost. I believe that Raf will do anything to play Wimbly, but let's hope that he and his team wise up before his tennis future is cut short; no one can keep this up with his style of play.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:

rommil
06-09-2009, 09:30 AM
This is just in......

Doctors have assessed Rafael Nadal's knees. They didn't need to go far the minute they saw a fork sticking out of it.

weallwegot
06-09-2009, 10:04 AM
Lololololol~~~

tennisfun1
06-09-2009, 10:43 AM
"I've had tendonitis for years and years. On a positive side for Rafa, it's uncomfortable and it's painful, but it's not something that's going to be a career threatening injury if you play on it," Roddick said. "It's kind of a fancy term for overuse. I don't think that in my mind I ever thought that his Wimbledon defence was in jeopardy.
"Rafa has had knee tendonitis for a long time and he's won Grand Slams while he's had it. I'm certainly not going to underestimate Rafa.
"I think he's going to be there. I think he's going to be fine, and I think he's going to put forth all the effort he has. He's certainly proven that in the past."

Andy is absolutely correct.

billnepill
06-09-2009, 11:18 AM
uncle Tony has changed the story :

"Nadal has blamed his injury problems on the overloaded tennis calendar " . Source : http://www.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idUSTRE5582OA20090609

Right after losing to Soderling on RG:

"Q. Do you think you maybe played too many tournaments lately? How are you going to prepare for Wimbledon?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah, when you lose, always everybody starts to analyze if I play too much. If Iím tired. The true, I won four years in a row playing the same. Thatís the true. This year I play the same and I lost. What happen? I lost. Thatís it."

"Q. You looked tired. Do you feel exhausted? Do you feel tired physically and mentally?

RAFAEL NADAL: No."

http://www.nadalnews.com/2009/05/31/rg-4th-round-presser/

tennisfun1
06-09-2009, 11:25 AM
uncle Tony has changed the story :
...

Uncle Toni rewrote the whole book of excuses for the FO loss.
Here's what Nadal said right after FO.


RAFAEL NADAL: ... No, I think I was ready for everything.
If I wasn't ready here, I don't know when I gonna be ready after winning a lot of tournaments and being my best at start of the season, no?


He was ready for everything

TheRealTruth
06-09-2009, 11:26 AM
RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah, when you lose, always everybody starts to analyze if I play too much. If Iím tired. The true, I won four years in a row playing the same. Thatís the true. This year I play the same and I lost. What happen? I lost. Thatís it."
"Q. You looked tired. Do you feel exhausted? Do you feel tired physically and mentally?

RAFAEL NADAL: No."


Nadal is a gracious loser (unlike his fans). Basicly he is saying, Soderling beat him, the 4 time defending champion fair and square. And Federer won the French Open fair and square. There's no exhaustion, no tiredness, no injury, no ball and court speed conspiracy! He lost. That's it.

rommil
06-10-2009, 06:15 AM
So where are we at with this epic knee saga? Will I be expecting a 2 hour TV movie drama about Nadal's knees on Telemundo?

joeri888
06-10-2009, 06:21 AM
Toni Nadal is becoming an idiot very fast and very furious. I like Rafa, but I think Toni is way too much speaking to the press etc. He'll probably love Rafa a lot, and he has helped him a great deal, but I wonder if maybe it would be time for a change of coach. Federer was winning when he decided he needed someone other than Lundgren. That worked out great with Tony Roche. Maybe Rafa should make a similar move, keeps you hungry, keeps you learning.. But then again, it's very hard of course to change coaches if you have a family life together.

malakas
06-10-2009, 06:28 AM
Oh jeez!!!Uncle Toni ftw!Serena could learn a couple of things from him.

veroniquem
06-10-2009, 06:35 AM
Toni Nadal is becoming an idiot very fast and very furious. I like Rafa, but I think Toni is way too much speaking to the press etc. He'll probably love Rafa a lot, and he has helped him a great deal, but I wonder if maybe it would be time for a change of coach. Federer was winning when he decided he needed someone other than Lundgren. That worked out great with Tony Roche. Maybe Rafa should make a similar move, keeps you hungry, keeps you learning.. But then again, it's very hard of course to change coaches if you have a family life together.
Toni Nadal is just saying things the way they are. Nadal hurt his knee during a practise session at RG (something he said in a RG interview before the Sod match). His knee getting worse, Nadal had tests done on it to evaluate what the damage was and how soon he could play again.
Of course there are several reasons for the knee problem, not just one, the combination of playing a lot since January, some matches being particularly difficult, punctual aggravation through a bad move. None of these reasons are mutually exclusive, they all play a part. Toni is generally very straightforward and honest about the injury issue, it's also very transparent with doctors' official statements, diagnosis and detailed information about the treatment needed.

billnepill
06-10-2009, 06:36 AM
Oh jeez!!!Uncle Toni ftw!Serena could learn a couple of things from him.

actually, she might yeah !

Especially given the fact that he is her idol and she wrote a heart-breaking essay after his lost to Soderling..

the essay: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1894410_1894289_1894269,00.html

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vg27YOzYbOo/SL_cwhd8ghI/AAAAAAAAGdQ/lECUjCZWpWk/s400/2008_09_03_NadalSerena_main.jpg

malakas
06-10-2009, 06:37 AM
Toni Nadal: first the crowd is stupid.
Second it was all the knee,otherwise when healthy he's invincible.We will make a huge melodrama with public statement only to announce that he will try to play in Wimby.
Third it's the shedule,because of course it's different for Nadal than for anyone else.

bolo
06-10-2009, 06:45 AM
actually, she might yeah !

Especially given the fact that he is her idol and she wrote a heart-breaking essay after his lost to Soderling..

the essay: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1894410_1894289_1894269,00.html

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vg27YOzYbOo/SL_cwhd8ghI/AAAAAAAAGdQ/lECUjCZWpWk/s400/2008_09_03_NadalSerena_main.jpg


no that's from before the soderling loss.

bolo
06-10-2009, 06:48 AM
Toni Nadal is just saying things the way they are. Nadal hurt his knee during a practise session at RG (something he said in a RG interview before the Sod match). His knee getting worse, Nadal had tests done on it to evaluate what the damage was and how soon he could play again.
Of course there are several reasons for the knee problem, not just one, the combination of playing a lot since January, some matches being particularly difficult, punctual aggravation through a bad move. None of these reasons are mutually exclusive, they all play a part. Toni is generally very straightforward and honest about the injury issue, it's also very transparent with doctors' official statements, diagnosis and detailed information about the treatment needed.

yes I like the transparency. The bawling, or is it braying, of these fed. fans is quite amusing.

rommil
06-10-2009, 06:56 AM
Toni Nadal is just saying things the way they are. Nadal hurt his knee during a practise session at RG (something he said in a RG interview before the Sod match). His knee getting worse, Nadal had tests done on it to evaluate what the damage was and how soon he could play again.
Of course there are several reasons for the knee problem, not just one, the combination of playing a lot since January, some matches being particularly difficult, punctual aggravation through a bad move. None of these reasons are mutually exclusive, they all play a part. Toni is generally very straightforward and honest about the injury issue, it's also very transparent with doctors' official statements, diagnosis and detailed information about the treatment needed.

Can we give this Toni Nadal a medical degree too please that way his straightforwardness and honesty will save time for everybody who is waiting on the status of his "crippled" nephew to play Wimby or not. Make sure he tells his nephew what to say during the press conf that way it will be consistent.

Fedace
06-10-2009, 06:57 AM
Rafa should come to america and see some Real doctors. Mayo clinic and Stanford hospital has world class knee specialists. That is where he should go.

jergosh
06-10-2009, 07:02 AM
Rafa should come to america and see some Real doctors.

As opposed to... ?

rommil
06-10-2009, 07:04 AM
Rafa should come to america and see some Real doctors. Mayo clinic and Stanford hospital has world class knee specialists. That is where he should go.

This will just allow more time and spin on the drama with travel time and all.

sh@de
06-10-2009, 07:05 AM
Rafa should come to america and see some Real doctors. Mayo clinic and Stanford hospital has world class knee specialists. That is where he should go.

As long as he's not seeing you he'll be fine...

norcal
06-10-2009, 07:18 AM
So I guess if Nadal had beaten Soderling he would have withdrawn from the FO cause his knees are so bad? Riiiight.

rommil
06-10-2009, 07:43 AM
So I guess if Nadal had beaten Soderling he would have withdrawn from the FO cause his knees are so bad? Riiiight.

LOL or at least we know now what would happen if somebody else stopped him. The French crowd too would have been stupid a couple of matches later.

joeri888
06-10-2009, 07:47 AM
Toni Nadal is just saying things the way they are. Nadal hurt his knee during a practise session at RG (something he said in a RG interview before the Sod match). His knee getting worse, Nadal had tests done on it to evaluate what the damage was and how soon he could play again.
Of course there are several reasons for the knee problem, not just one, the combination of playing a lot since January, some matches being particularly difficult, punctual aggravation through a bad move. None of these reasons are mutually exclusive, they all play a part. Toni is generally very straightforward and honest about the injury issue, it's also very transparent with doctors' official statements, diagnosis and detailed information about the treatment needed.
I always liked Toni Nadal. He's very nice, quiet, and he applauds for great shots from Federer. However, I think he's too much in public, and saying things he shouldn't say. It might be true, but it's not always smart to say it. His critics to the French public will not be taken lightly, and will be attributed to Rafa himself. This critics might be justified, but it doesn't mean you should not think about next year. Instead of saying 'French public are idiots' he could have said 'I hope French public will love Rafa more, now that he's lost once, because he didn't get much support'. He sounds more and more frustrated imo. it's not like he's actually doing something terribly wrong, but I think a change of coach could do some good.That's just me

veroniquem
06-10-2009, 07:57 AM
I always liked Toni Nadal. He's very nice, quiet, and he applauds for great shots from Federer. However, I think he's too much in public, and saying things he shouldn't say. It might be true, but it's not always smart to say it. His critics to the French public will not be taken lightly, and will be attributed to Rafa himself. This critics might be justified, but it doesn't mean you should not think about next year. Instead of saying 'French public are idiots' he could have said 'I hope French public will love Rafa more, now that he's lost once, because he didn't get much support'. He sounds more and more frustrated imo. it's not like he's actually doing something terribly wrong, but I think a change of coach could do some good.That's just me
Of course he's frustrated. Things have been rough lately. I cannot imagine why what Toni says would ever be attributed to Rafa. When you listened to Tony Roche, did you feel like it was Fed speaking? They're 2 distinct people. Neither of them consults the other to say whatever they want. They have had divergent opinions before and they will have more in the future.
Whether Rafa would need a new coach is an interesting question, sometimes a new approach is stimulating (technically speaking), mentally speaking it may be more advantageous to stay with the same person for as long as possible. As a side joke, Toni has said that Rafa is not paying him for coaching him, Toni prefers it that way and has money from other businesses. For that reason alone, I don't think Rafa will ever consider changing coach ;-)

rommil
06-10-2009, 08:06 AM
Of course he's frustrated. Things have been rough lately. I cannot imagine why what Toni says would ever be attributed to Rafa. When you listened to Tony Roche, did you feel like it was Fed speaking? They're 2 distinct people. Neither of them consults the other to say whatever they want. They have had divergent opinions before and they will have more in the future.
Whether Rafa would need a new coach is an interesting question, sometimes a new approach is stimulating (technically speaking), mentally speaking it may be more advantageous to stay with the same person for as long as possible. As a side joke, Toni has said that Rafa is not paying him for coaching him, Toni prefers it that way and has money from other businesses. For that reason alone, I don't think Rafa will ever consider changing coach ;-)

Are you that dense? If you think that the French crowd was not that warm to Nadal this year and the past years, see what happens next year when he plays in Paris. What Toni said WILL affect Rafa.

rommil
06-11-2009, 06:53 AM
Here is some fuel for the fire while we still wait for some more twist to the knee drama.....


http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2009-06-11/1566.php

bolo
06-11-2009, 07:11 AM
Here is some fuel for the fire while we still wait for some more twist to the knee drama.....


http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2009-06-11/1566.php

a hackish writer, but fed. fans get their "fuel" from whatever source they can don't they.

rommil
06-11-2009, 07:19 AM
a hackish writer, but fed. fans get their "fuel" from whatever source they can don't they.

Well have you heard anything new about the "drama"? How many lunchtimes have passed? Or maybe in Rafa fashion he wants everybody to wait for him. Is he still at the doctor's office rearranging all the medicines in the cabinet? Jumping up and down near the receptionist's desk?

bolo
06-11-2009, 07:21 AM
Well have you heard anything new about the "drama"? How many lunchtimes have passed? Or maybe in Rafa fashion he wants everybody to wait for him. Is he still at the doctor's office rearranging all the medicines in the cabinet? Jumping up and down near the receptionist's desk?

lol. 10 char. :)

zagor
06-11-2009, 07:23 AM
Well have you heard anything new about the "drama"? How many lunchtimes have passed? Or maybe in Rafa fashion he wants everybody to wait for him. Is he still at the doctor's office rearranging all the medicines in the cabinet? Jumping up and down near the receptionist's desk?

LOL,have to admit that was funny.Rearranging medicines in the cabinet,gold.

ksbh
06-11-2009, 07:29 AM
The author of that article isn't qualified to chew on the clipped toe nails of my neighbor's dog, much less write articles! Unfortunately, in the internet world, any fool can write!

a hackish writer, but fed. fans get their "fuel" from whatever source they can don't they.

TheTruth
06-11-2009, 07:33 AM
Anyone kind of feel like they just took a test and they are waiting for the results? That's how I feel waiting to see if Nadal will play wimbly or not. I can't even imagine how the nadal fans are feeling.


I can't speak for all Nadal fans. But for me, I can't understand how, or why this would personally evoke emotions from me. I would like Nadal to achieve every goals he has set for his career. I'm not looking for him to set anything for me. He's a phenomenal player, already in the Hall of Fame at such a young age. That's quite an accomplishment in itself.

Nadal needs a rest after such an awesome season beginning with last year at the French, Wimbledon, and going on to win his first hardcourt grand slam. In the meantime he won several masters shields and gave a good account of himself.

Personally, I'd rather he skipped Wimbledon and got the rest he deserves. He's young, 23 years old. The tour can go on without him for a minute.

Chasing records, vying for status is silly to me. Each player should get the maximum benefit out of their bodies and their careers.

As a tennis fan, I'm here to enjoy what each player brings to the table, but having watched tennis for quite some time I realize the landscape is an ever changing one.

I don't understand the obsession with exploits that are not my own.

I would hope that all Nadal fans will be fine and more concerned with him as a person than stats in a record book.

TheTruth
06-11-2009, 07:39 AM
actually, she might yeah !

Especially given the fact that he is her idol and she wrote a heart-breaking essay after his lost to Soderling..

the essay: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1894410_1894289_1894269,00.html

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vg27YOzYbOo/SL_cwhd8ghI/AAAAAAAAGdQ/lECUjCZWpWk/s400/2008_09_03_NadalSerena_main.jpg

Ahh, she has excellent taste, that girl!

zagor
06-11-2009, 07:41 AM
The author of that article isn't qualified to chew on the clipped toe nails of my neighbor's dog, much less write articles! Unfortunately, in the internet world, any fool can write!

Second this,the article is crap but then again so many internet articles are.

TheTruth
06-11-2009, 07:44 AM
It's sad that some people are making jokes about another human being's injuries.

Can't wrap my mind around that.

Thank God!

joeri888
06-11-2009, 07:45 AM
I can't speak for all Nadal fans. But for me, I can't understand how, or why this would personally evoke emotions from me. I would like Nadal to achieve every goals he has set for his career. I'm not looking for him to set anything for me. He's a phenomenal player, already in the Hall of Fame at such a young age. That's quite an accomplishment in itself.

Nadal needs a rest after such an awesome season beginning with last year at the French, Wimbledon, and going on to win his first hardcourt grand slam. In the meantime he won several masters shields and gave a good account of himself.

Personally, I'd rather he skipped Wimbledon and got the rest he deserves. He's young, 23 years old. The tour can go on without him for a minute.

Chasing records, vying for status is silly to me. Each player should get the maximum benefit out of their bodies and their careers.

As a tennis fan, I'm here to enjoy what each player brings to the table, but having watched tennis for quite some time I realize the landscape is an ever changing one.

I don't understand the obsession with exploits that are not my own.

I would hope that all Nadal fans will be fine and more concerned with him as a person than stats in a record book.Good post theTruth

jstr
06-11-2009, 08:07 AM
Physical endevours involving quick, and at times, extreme directional movement changes ( such as tennis, soccer, modern dance ) ultimately take their toll on the human body. Watching Nadal execute those unorthodox contorted knee bend positions and angles over the last couple of years , I had wondered if this present state of affairs wouldn't someday surface. Pushing critical body parts "150 - 200%" may win you matches but you ultimately sacrifice longevity .....

ruerooo
06-11-2009, 08:36 AM
Anyone kind of feel like they just took a test and they are waiting for the results? That's how I feel waiting to see if Nadal will play wimbly or not.

Yes.

10char

TennezSport
06-11-2009, 09:22 AM
Physical endevours involving quick, and at times, extreme directional movement changes ( such as tennis, soccer, modern dance ) ultimately take their toll on the human body. Watching Nadal execute those unorthodox contorted knee bend positions and angles over the last couple of years , I had wondered if this present state of affairs wouldn't someday surface. Pushing critical body parts "150 - 200%" may win you matches but you ultimately sacrifice longevity .....

This is the sad truth for any player who has forced footwork as Rafa does. He is indeed powerful mentally and physically but there is always a price to pay when pushing too far. Let's hope Rafa gets the required rest and not sacrifice his longevity; he is a champ and good for the sport.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:

bolo
06-11-2009, 09:45 AM
The author of that article isn't qualified to chew on the clipped toe nails of my neighbor's dog, much less write articles! Unfortunately, in the internet world, any fool can write!

lol. BTW kSBH, if you ever find me citing sean randall I give you permissin to revoke my TW posting privileges. Thanks ahead of time for putting me out of my misery.

maximo
06-11-2009, 09:46 AM
This is a joke, he obviously will play, its in 2 weeks for god sake.

bolo
06-11-2009, 09:47 AM
This is a joke, he obviously will play, its in 2 weeks for god sake.

He will play and straight set that scottish guy with the goofy haircut. :)

zagor
06-11-2009, 09:52 AM
He will play and straight set that scottish guy with the goofy haircut. :)

Yeah,with huge guns as well.

maddogz32
06-11-2009, 09:55 AM
i hope his knee is doing better

maximo
06-11-2009, 09:55 AM
He will play and straight set that scottish guy with the goofy haircut. :)

If he wont be there, which he obviously will be. Murray will win Wimbledon.

bolo
06-11-2009, 09:58 AM
Yeah,with huge guns as well.

lol. 10 char. :)

ksbh
06-11-2009, 10:38 AM
You, dear Zagor, are a model of objectivity. No wonder you stand apart from the legion of mediocre Federer fans! :twisted:

Second this,the article is crap but then again so many internet articles are.

ksbh
06-11-2009, 10:42 AM
LOL Bolo! I can't ever imagine a man of such fine taste as your good self ever quoting internet writers like Mr. Randall! Sure you'll find now & then the odd man that reads Mr. Randall's gibberish, such as for example Mr. Pat "attention deprived" Cash, but otherwise I doubt he'll have many takers!

I can rest assured your posting rights will never have to be revoked! :)

lol. BTW kSBH, if you ever find me citing sean randall I give you permissin to revoke my TW posting privileges. Thanks ahead of time for putting me out of my misery.

bolo
06-11-2009, 11:38 AM
LOL Bolo! I can't ever imagine a man of such fine taste as your good self ever quoting internet writers like Mr. Randall! Sure you'll find now & then the odd man that reads Mr. Randall's gibberish, such as for example Mr. Pat "attention deprived" Cash, but otherwise I doubt he'll have many takers!

I can rest assured your posting rights will never have to be revoked! :)

Thanks for the kind words KSBH. :)

vtmike
06-11-2009, 11:59 AM
Like I've said before atleast Federer is multidimensional with his excuses, Nadal OTOH is one dimensional & always uses his knees as an excuse... ;) :D