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PERL
06-09-2009, 06:41 PM
I was wondering if you could give some insight, memory or extra information on a few Wimbledon junior champions. I was looking at the whole list and I was a bit surprised by the names. A few winners as Enqvist, Tulasne or Monfils donít have a game suited for grass at all. Guys like Reid, Sabau or Mutis have always struggled on the ATP Tour, etc. Of course there are a few champions but they are in minority to say the least. Also players like Becker or Mcenroe were too good to play juniors. Comments are welcome.

2008
Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) the new great eastern Europe hope, has everything to prove, potential seems to be there.
2007
Donald Young (USA) gifted, has not done anything yet at pro level, cruel lack of power.
2006
Thiemo de Bakker (NED) has a hard time making a breakthrough, slightly improving his ranking.
2005
Jeremy Chardy (FRA) top 50, has had a good year so far. Made his breakthrough at RG last year.
2004
GaŽl Monfils (FRA) it took time but heís now a top 10/15. Good first serve, defense, no return, no volley, sub-par passing shots, movement not suited to grass courts.
2003
Florin Mergea (ROM) heís 24 and around 600th. Plays for Romania in doubles in Davis Cup.
2002
Todd Reid (AUS) no big weapon, was publicized as a poor manís Lleyton Hewitt. He never reached the top 100 and he has not played a single match this year.
2001
Roman Valent (SUI) donít know much except that he serves as a sparring partner for Fed time to time.
2000
Nicolas Mahut (FRA) fragile, relies on his serve and nice feel at the net. On a good day and a fast surface, he can beat top 20 players. On a bad day he will lose to a top 800 player.
1999
Jurgen Melzer (AUT) good left hand, good player although a bit inconsistent, grass is not his best surface as far as I know.
1998
Roger Federer (SUI) the new GOAT ;-)
1997
Westley Whitehouse (RSA) out of the radar. Where is South african tennis by now ?
1996
Vladimir Voltchkov (BLR) cinderella semi finalist in 2000, won a couple of matches in Davis Cup for Belarus along with Mirnyi, nothing else to remember.
1995
Oliver Mutis (FRA) the hard life of a journeyman, played mostly in challengers.
1994
Scott Humphries (USA) beat Philippoussis in the final. Never won a single match on the atp tour.
1993
Razvan Sabau (ROM) cf. Mutis.
1992
David Skoch (TCH) who ?
1991
Thomas Enqvist (SWE) one of the worst volleyers Iíve ever witnessed. At least he could serve & return properly. His best surface was indoor carpet but he had no feel for grass tennis, a bit like Safin in a worst way.
1990
Leander Paes (IND) great doubles career. One singles title on grassÖin Newport.
1989
Nicklas Kulti (SWE) big serve, strong guy, always on top in his age groups, never great in pro, lost a final rubber in a DC final.
1988
Nicolas Pereira (VEN) best ranking : 74. Best result at Wimbledon : a win over Jeremy BatesÖ.
1987
Diego Nargiso (ITA) best ranking : 67, doubles player, atypical, left handed. 8 appearances at Wimby, 3 wins.
1986
Eduardo Velez (MEX) never heard of.
1985
Leonardo Lavalle (MEX) played the DC for Mexico, thatís all I know
1984
Mark Kratzmann (AUS) good doubles career. Never reached the second week at Wimby.
1983
Stefan Edberg (SWE) only player with a junior calendar slam, one of the pro level greats.
1982
Pat Cash (AUS) winner in 1987.
1981
Matt Anger (USA) Anger is not that good on grass. Hardly reached once the second week at Wimbledon. Decent player, nothing special.
1980
Thierry Tulasne (FRA) topspin baseliner, had one really good pro year, won only one match at Wimbledon as a pro. Gilles Simonís coach.
1979
Ramesh Krishnan (IND) he had such light hands and the ball flew as a feather.
1978
Ivan Lendl (TCH) yes himself.
1977
Van Winitsky (USA) won only one match at Wimbledon as a pro.
1976
Heinz Gunthardt (SUI) nice talent, never reached his full potential besides the doubles, he won Wimbledon in doubles. Former Steffi Grafís coach.
1975
Chris Lewis (NZL) surprising finalist in 1983 only to get destroyed by Johnny Mac. Nothing else to mention. Where is New Zealand tennis ?
1974
Billy Martin (USA) proclaimed best junior player ever by some. Short lived journeyman. Now a coach in the U.S.
1973
Billy Martin (USA) cf. 1974
1972
Bjorn Borg (SWE) stunned the tennis world by adapting his game to the surface to the point of being a king of grass.
1971
Robert Kreiss (USA) excuse me ?
1970
Byron Bertram (RSA) journeyman
1969
Byron Bertram (RSA) cf. 1970
1968
John Alexander (AUS) good player, one of the big serves of the 70ís.
1967
Manuel Orantes (ESP) future slam winner, mostly known for his clay court abilities.
1966
Vladimir Korotkov (URS) sorry, we couldn't find a matching player entry! (says the atp website).
1965
Vladimir Korotkov (URS) cf. 1966
1964
Ismail El Shafei (EGY) beat Borg in Wimbledon 1974.
1963
Nikky Kalogeropoulos (GRE) the name is too long to remember. So is the time.
1962
Stanley Matthews Jr. (GBR) mostly remembered for his soccer skills.
1961
Clark Graebner (USA) semi finalist in 1968.

Other names of the far past :
1959
Toomas Lejus (URS) sounds like a baltic name.
1958
Butch Buchholz (USA) international Hall of Fame, US Pro winner in 1962.
1956
Ronald Holmberg (USA) beat Rod Laver to conquer the junior title (6/1 6/1).
1954
Ramanathan Krishnan (IND) father of Ramesh I presume.
1947
Kurt Nielsen (DEN) Wimbledon finalist 1953, 1955.

CyBorg
06-09-2009, 06:58 PM
Tulasne was a sort of a relevation as a teenager for a short while. He made the fourth round at the French in 1981 and everyone was talking about him being a kind of poor man's Borg. He was 17, almost 18.

Never had as a good finish at a grand slam tournament ever again.

Tshooter
06-09-2009, 10:27 PM
"father of Ramesh I presume."

You presume correctly.

I never knew Humphries didn't win a single ATP level match. That's some good trivia.

goober
06-10-2009, 05:53 AM
I never knew Humphries didn't win a single ATP level match. That's some good trivia.

Humphries was a doubles specialist after not doing too much in singles. He had 17 dubs titles and got to the semis of the Aussie one year with Gimelstob.

tintin
06-10-2009, 07:37 AM
any on the ladies side that we know?

hoodjem
06-10-2009, 07:41 AM
Here's your winner:

"Stefan Edberg (SWE) only player with a junior calendar slam, one of the pro level greats.
1982"

Played in a very tough era, not like today.

PERL
06-10-2009, 12:28 PM
Thanks tshooter.

Tulasne was a sort of a relevation as a teenager for a short while. He made the fourth round at the French in 1981 and everyone was talking about him being a kind of poor man's Borg. He was 17, almost 18.

Never had as a good finish at a grand slam tournament ever again.

Best win on the pro tour : the Barcelona final vs Wilander in 1985. A bagel in the fifth. Maybe the only time I saw Wilander running out of gas, especially on clay. One good year, ephemeral top ten with a bad record in slams. Some people say he had plenty of talent and chose the wrong way to play the game, Borg being unique.


Here's your winner:
Stefan Edberg (SWE)


Well if you have to pick the best junior player ever, Edberg may be one safe bet. Becker said he was unplayable at the time, also Becker was almost 2 years younger than the swedish, thatís a lot at this age.

EtePras
06-10-2009, 01:13 PM
Interesting list of players. Not a single good one on there other than Roger Federer.

goober
06-10-2009, 01:19 PM
Interesting list of players. Not a single good one on there other than Roger Federer.

eh???


You don't consider Edberg, Lendl, Borg good players?:shock:

Pat Cash, Orantes and Enquist were pretty good as well.

hoodjem
06-10-2009, 01:57 PM
For some Fed is not only the GOAT, also the only player they've ever heard beyond the last five years.

nfor304
06-10-2009, 06:36 PM
I played Todd Reid in doubles at an Open tournament about 6 months ago... He's gained a bit of weight but apparently hes back playing futures and doing fairly well. I think hes had a few injuries the last couple of years. He was just outside the top 100 when he was 20, but as far as a poor mans lleyton I dont think thats very accurate. Hes more of a shot maker than lleyton and isnt afraid to come to the net, but hes fairly short and doesnt really have much power.

kimbahpnam
06-12-2009, 11:22 AM
Interesting list of players. Not a single good one on there other than Roger Federer.

you're a fool