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ulysses75
06-13-2009, 12:25 AM
I have a question about Safin's real racquet.
It is generally accepted that he is using PC600.
But, I want to know if that PC600 is retail PC600 (or a specially ordered and manufactured for pros.)?
I thought this is retail PC600s painted as MGP mid and then modified (lead taped) according to Safin's own taste.
But a guy here is consistently saying that's never chance of a player like Safin using a retail racket (however it is customized later).
I just want to know the fact.

What about Murray?

Thank you very much!

PED
06-13-2009, 03:52 AM
Not sure about Safin but Murray is using a modified Prestige Pro and has done since AO in 2008. If you do a search, you'll find plenty of threads with pics and evidence to go with them.

I'll be curious to see what the answer is on Safin. If you search for Mega Review 3, some guys did a multi stick test that included one of Safin's actual frames. Actually, here's the link below.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=254679&highlight=mega

Kuang155
06-13-2009, 07:57 AM
I have a couple of Safin's frames that are the i.prestige PJ and they are not the retail PC600. It is defiantly lighter and has lead at 12, 3, 9 o'clock, and handle as well as silicone in the handle.

PED
06-13-2009, 09:14 AM
Were those your frames they used in Mega III? What does your Safin I prestiges weigh strung up?

Kuang155
06-13-2009, 09:16 AM
I have the one used in that review and one that is new unstrung.

Kuang155
06-13-2009, 09:18 AM
oh, strung up with overgrip and in the review I dunno if they used the head calfskin grip but with everything it weighs in at 13.1oz without overgrip and 13.35oz with overgrip.

PED
06-13-2009, 05:35 PM
Thanks for the info and thanks for letting them borrow for the review-it was interesting reading their feedback :) I've always loved the sound of the ball coming off Safin's stick-like a rifle shot!

Kuang155
06-13-2009, 06:41 PM
Well I purchased the racquets after the playtest, so all the thanks go to thaychu.

ipitythefool
06-13-2009, 07:04 PM
I also have one FXP pj'ed PT10. I agree that, I think they are lighter than retail PC600s, so this allows more room for customization for the pros.


Btw- I am in search for another PT10. Can anyone be of help?

OliverSimon
06-13-2009, 07:06 PM
Who is this Sanfin? A new upcoming player?

ipitythefool
06-13-2009, 07:15 PM
^^ Never heard of the upcoming player San-fin? :)

Kuang155
06-13-2009, 07:53 PM
Ya the PT10 is the mold basically and they come in around 11oz for customization. The 3 PT10s I have came in all at 11oz and had silicone in the handle.

NickC
06-13-2009, 08:11 PM
Who is this Sanfin? A new upcoming player?

Dunno, maybe he's the newest recruit at "Standford". I think Fedace knows his mother as well. :lol:

ipitythefool
06-14-2009, 10:07 AM
Ya the PT10 is the mold basically and they come in around 11oz for customization. The 3 PT10s I have came in all at 11oz and had silicone in the handle.

So, the PT10 frames you have do not have safin name decaled in the racquet, but where the player name is supposed to be (little box) is empty (no names) correct?

So these were the base racquets with no customization on them with the exception of the sili in handle?

Kuang155
06-14-2009, 03:44 PM
Ya, they have nothing in the throat area, just say PT10.

tomn
06-14-2009, 07:54 PM
didn't safin play also with a customized TGK237.1 (not the pc600 pj)?

ulysses75
06-16-2009, 12:14 AM
Kuang155, thanks for the information.
According to your information, Safin haven't ever used (customized) retail PC600 nor modified PC 600. Right?

First question is what is PT 10? Was PT 10 a retail one? Because I cannot find any information about pro tour 10.

Another question,
When Safin is in contraction with Dunlop, he used black pj of some head racket. (No doubt he tried dunlop and failed )
Was the racekt also specially manufactured (for only Safin) and provided by Head (to someone whose contraction with the company has been expired.)? What do you think?

Mdubb23
06-16-2009, 03:31 AM
didn't safin play also with a customized TGK237.1 (not the pc600 pj)?

No, the TGK237.1 code refers to the real MG Prestige Mid, and Sanfin has never used that mold.

Eiffel59
06-16-2009, 03:44 AM
Sanfin? :D

Gotta dig those ATP rankings.... :D

Kuang155
06-16-2009, 06:17 AM
It is a PC600 mold layered to Safin's specs but it only weighs around between I would say 10-11 ounces, then there is lead tape at 12, 3, and 9 o'clock with silicon in the handle. Also on the handle is more lead tape at the bottom of the grip and more lead halfway up the handle to get a final weight of around 13 ounces with a head calfskin grip.

The PT10 is a PC600 mold available to the players. It is basically the same thing. Around 10-11 ounces from the factory and you can add lead or silcone to the desired weight. You just don't see the Prestige 600 collar on some of them.

nadal for number1
06-16-2009, 12:31 PM
wait so safin really never used the microgel prestige mid??

ipitythefool
06-18-2009, 05:51 AM
I have seen a safin racq picture (with his name decaled in "safin, marat" fashion, as well as tension/date sticky inside throat) that one had the lead strips put not under the bumper but directly on the racquet visibly. And the lead strips did not reach to 3&9 o'clock. It did end at somewhere 11&2ish. And there was perhaps a tiny bit of gap with no lead (the little gap is equal to the spacing between two main strings) right at 12pm.

PC/PT600s are the BEST, but BEST serving sticks, period, imo.

Kuang155
06-18-2009, 07:04 PM
Well, Safin was known to tinker with his setup from tournament to tournament so he could have left the 3 and 9 oclock untouched. Here are a couple pics of the throat area that had his name but were scratched off for redistribution and a picture of the lead under a PT10 at stock specs.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo167/senseizero/IMG_1054.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo167/senseizero/IMG_1055.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo167/senseizero/IMG_1056.jpg

nadal for number1
06-18-2009, 08:19 PM
wow nice sticks..are any of them cracked?

Kuang155
06-18-2009, 08:21 PM
No, they are all new, have 3 new PT10's and 2 Marat Safin PC600