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coriafan
06-19-2009, 06:50 AM
Ok i want just for the fun the most powerful racket there is just to see how fast i can serve and and see if its any fun to play with it.
So would a super stiff frame with relatively big frame size, strung at low tension with "powerful" strings, maybe an inch longer really be that much powerful then other rackets or is it all just bollocks and there is a certain limit and you can`t go faster than that. Please i know you lack control and all that you dont have to tell me...
so which racket is the best suited? Which you can hit the hardest with?

Fedace
06-19-2009, 07:04 AM
Wilson N1 130sq inches racket. you won't have too much luck getting it in the court though

fortunecookiesjc
06-19-2009, 07:09 AM
a pure drive

Sublime
06-19-2009, 09:03 AM
Boris Becker Delta Core 1

LeeD
06-19-2009, 09:08 AM
Totally depends on your skill level and how fast you actually can swing a racket.
Slow controlled swing, a big, fat, stiff, long racket.
Pro level swing, a streamlined, 90-100 head light racket that is heavy like maybe 12 oz.

dman72
06-19-2009, 09:09 AM
According to the TW university power potential, it's the Wilson k 6.1X.

Basically, high swingweight=high power all other things being equal. Take a granny stick like the aforementioned Wilson N1 and add enough lead to the head to get the SW up to 350 or so..you'll be able to launch balls to the moon.

123ten
06-19-2009, 09:30 AM
Ok i want just for the fun the most powerful racket there is just to see how fast i can serve and and see if its any fun to play with it.
So would a super stiff frame with relatively big frame size, strung at low tension with "powerful" strings, maybe an inch longer really be that much powerful then other rackets or is it all just bollocks and there is a certain limit and you can`t go faster than that. Please i know you lack control and all that you dont have to tell me...
so which racket is the best suited? Which you can hit the hardest with?

Maybe you can try a Yamaha Secret 04. It is one of the stiffest (over 80) racquet and it is around 95~100 head size.

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Nuke
06-19-2009, 09:37 AM
Here ya go:

http://img.tennis-warehouse.com/big/GBB29-1.JPG

Gamma Big Bubba. 137 sq inches, and 29" long.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCGAMMA-GBB29.html

python
06-19-2009, 09:44 AM
Any one of the older widebodies from the late eighties or early nineties will do. They are heavier than today's game improvement racquets and they were stiff, so combined with a fast swing, well you get the picture.

Wilson Profile, Head Genesis, Prince CTS Thunderstick, etc.

python
06-19-2009, 09:45 AM
Maybe you can try a Yamaha Secret 04. It is one of the stiffest (over 80) racquet and it is around 95~100 head size.

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Yes, this was a sweet racquet if your arm could handle the stiffness. It was good for a rush and crush game. I actually had an opponent accuse me of not playing fair because I used one in a match against him in 1990(?).

Sublime
06-19-2009, 10:07 AM
According to the TW university power potential, it's the Wilson k 6.1X.

Basically, high swingweight=high power all other things being equal. Take a granny stick like the aforementioned Wilson N1 and add enough lead to the head to get the SW up to 350 or so..you'll be able to launch balls to the moon.

Actually its a toss up between the boris becker delta core 1 and the boris becker 11 special 98. You have to look at the power levels higher up in the string bed (closer to the tip), because that's where you hit the sweet spot of racket head speed and hitting weight.

I went with the delta core 1, because things being pretty even between the two, the delta core 1 is lighter, so you'll get more serving racket head speed.

coriafan
06-19-2009, 02:13 PM
so would professional player if they were used to those rackets be able to hit a higher serve speed or at a certain swing speed its all just boloocks?
If so why wouldn`t a guy like Karlovic not sacrifice groundstroke control to make his serve unreturnable to most players. Just think for example what kind of angles he could create if he would use a longer racket and if his serves were 10 miles or so faster in average.

Zielmann
06-19-2009, 08:40 PM
Just because you can swing it fast doesn't mean it's going to transfer all of that into ball speed. That's where the swingweight comes in.

It's basically all about momentum, and the transfer thereof. Sure, any racquet has more momentum than the tossed ball. (If it didn't, the ball wouldn't go anywhere: would actually push the racquet back and continue on it's path toward the fence behind you). It's all about finding the maximum combination of weight and head speed. That's what will give you the most power on a serve.

Go out there with a "powerful" feather-weight racquet, and you're probably going to actually lose speed. If you use something that gives a little more plow-through, you'll get more power in your serve.

ckledzepplin
06-20-2009, 11:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dyl3YQKGxo

Sublime
06-20-2009, 12:22 PM
so would professional player if they were used to those rackets be able to hit a higher serve speed or at a certain swing speed its all just boloocks?

What makes a racket powerful is hitting weight. A racket doesn't need to be heavy to have a high hitting weight (all though it helps). The k6.1 95x and Boris Becker rackets above are in the 11-12 range, but that weight is positioned in such a way that a good deal of it is close to the ball at contact.

Now to answer your question, a lot (most?) pros play with rackets even more powerful than the ones listed here. They add weight near the tip of their frames. This increases swing weight, shifts the balance a little closer to contact, which results in the hitting weight going up.

tennisfreak15347
06-20-2009, 12:30 PM
the most powerful racquet depends on how fast you can swing. of course the longer the racquet, the more it can also help you on your serve. basically, the more weight a racquet has, the more potential it has for a higher serve because of the more inertia. however, if one cannot swing that much weight, the racquet is not as effective.

kabrac
06-21-2009, 04:46 PM
I saw TW listed the Wilson k6.1X and the KPS88 as the most powerful. I can't remember which one was listed first...one was #1 the other #2 then the K6.190 was a top 4 or 5 I think. Go to compare racquets and you'll see.

S H O W S T O P P E R !
06-21-2009, 06:05 PM
If you can swing fast then try the Flexpoint 10. (http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCHEAD-HFP10.html) Its specs can go toe to toe with nearly any power stick, even the BB.

Juan Cruz
06-21-2009, 09:32 PM
The Prince Speedport Platinum.

It has a power rating of 1700 from Prince. And the String-Through system is whack — the strings actually go past the throat. A real catapult if there ever was one.

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCPRINCE-SP03PP.html

dsa202
06-22-2009, 09:51 AM
Sledge Hammers.

vwfye
06-22-2009, 09:52 AM
Profile 2.7 @ 53lbs!

Sublime
06-22-2009, 11:41 AM
The Prince Speedport Platinum.

It has a power rating of 1700 from Prince. And the String-Through system is whack the strings actually go past the throat. A real catapult if there ever was one.

That's just marketing nonsense from Prince. The kps88 is 15%-20% more powerful than it.

MCN
06-22-2009, 12:09 PM
My freind had a Prince Thunderstick (oversize) for a year or so and his tennis went downhill dramatically - he kept hitting everything into the back fence or into the trees behind! The racquet's profile was the same profile shape as a baseball bat.

goober
06-22-2009, 12:20 PM
If you can swing fast then try the Flexpoint 10. (http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCHEAD-HFP10.html) Its specs can go toe to toe with nearly any power stick, even the BB.

The most recent user review of that racquet calls himself 5.0 right handed and 4.5 left handed.:grin: I haven't seen a 5.0 use a 121 sq in racquet yet, but I am sure it could happen.

Danstevens
06-22-2009, 12:26 PM
The most recent user review of that racquet calls himself 5.0 right handed and 4.5 left handed.:grin: I haven't seen a 5.0 use a 121 sq in racquet yet, but I am sure it could happen.

I'm sure some female pros play with oversize or big midplus rackets, I just can't get one to come to mind. Male pros/just good male players tend to favour smaller head sizes. The sweetspot is more sweet (focussed) and I guess they just don't have a need for huge head sizes. I'm pretty sure that a lot of the setups used by the pros are quite powerful though, they tend to use high swingweights and a lot seem to use fairly low tensions. Still, they can hit with enough topspin to keep the ball in court.

goober
06-22-2009, 12:40 PM
I'm sure some female pros play with oversize or big midplus rackets, I just can't get one to come to mind. .

midplus to OS racquets imo range from 95+ to 110 sq in.

121 sq in would be "super" OS in my book :) I would be very surprised if there are any WTA players with a racquet over 120 sq inches.

Zielmann
06-22-2009, 01:54 PM
midplus to OS racquets imo range from 95+ to 110 sq in.

I agree. I don't even think that anything over 100" should qualify as midplus. Should stop at 100", and OS be 101" to 110". I don't see how anybody would ever need something larger than that.

Rhinosaur
08-13-2009, 11:52 AM
Prince Thunderstick
Wilson Profile
Prince Speedport Silver/Platinum

These are the ones I've hit with. I'm guessing some more advanced, smaller-head rackets that are on the heavy side could generate a lot of power. Big Bubba looks powerful (huge head, 29" long).

On my serve with a short toss and quick motion, I could hit some unbelievable serves with the Profile and the Speedport Silver. Not a high percentage went in, but those that did were not returnable (through-the-fence shots). I didn't have much luck with the Thunderstick.

PrinceMoron
08-13-2009, 01:32 PM
Ok i want just for the fun the most powerful racket there is just to see how fast i can serve and and see if its any fun to play with it.
So would a super stiff frame with relatively big frame size, strung at low tension with "powerful" strings, maybe an inch longer really be that much powerful then other rackets or is it all just bollocks and there is a certain limit and you can`t go faster than that. Please i know you lack control and all that you dont have to tell me...
so which racket is the best suited? Which you can hit the hardest with?Snauwaert Brian Gottfried autograph - but one with maxed out weight and swingweight. 74" head and weighs the same as a lead pipe. Gut strings at 52Lbs. Kerpow. You need to hit an ace as 2 shots into a rally you will be exhausted.

Lsmkenpo
08-13-2009, 01:32 PM
Being oversized doesn't make a racquet more powerful in the sweetspot than a players racquet,the oversized just has the power distributed more over the stringbed, when struck in the sweetspot virtually every players frame is more powerful than an oversized frames.

It is a misconception that players frames are low powered they are the most powerful frames produced when struck in the sweetspot.

That being said to answer the Op question what frame will allow him to serve bombs, in stock form the BB SE 11, is very powerful, it crushes the ball.

If you wanted to customize a frame specifically to serve hard, get a mid and add lead up to the point that allows you to still swing with your maximum racquet head speed and that will most likely be the best serving racquet for pure speed.

BigHitterSE
08-13-2009, 03:56 PM
Pro Kennex SQ. 105sq in. Wide string pattern. Fat beam. 27.5in long. HUGE Sweetspot. Most powerful racquet on the market today.

hrstrat57
08-13-2009, 05:13 PM
Any one of the older widebodies from the late eighties or early nineties will do. They are heavier than today's game improvement racquets and they were stiff, so combined with a fast swing, well you get the picture.

Wilson Profile, Head Genesis, Prince CTS Thunderstick, etc.

For bombing flat serves the CTS thunderstick 90 would be a real winner.....

Can't really play tennis with it tho.....topspin you will frame too many shots off the widebody frame, flat groundies nearly impossible to keep in.

You'll have a blast hitting serves tho.....

Jack & Coke
08-13-2009, 05:22 PM
For related discussion..

click here:

Most powerful racket you ever hit with? (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=122515)

wyutani
08-13-2009, 06:20 PM
honestly pure drives...

Lsmkenpo
08-13-2009, 08:02 PM
Rank these racquets in order of which you think is the most powerful to the least powerful, than click my link to the power map to see if you are correct.

1. Babolat Pure Drive 107
2. Gamma Big Bubba
3. Head Titanium Ti.S6
4. Head Flexpoint Radical MP

Power map for the above frames http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/comparepower.cgi?racquetA=BPD107|107|Babolat|Pure: Drive:107|RCBAB|x&racquetB=FPRMP|98|Head|Flexpoint:Radical::MP|RCHEA D|&racquetC=GBUBBA|137|Gamma|Big:Bubba|RCGAMMA|x&racquetD=TIS6|115|Head|Titanium:Ti.S6|RCHEAD|x

MarrratSafin
08-13-2009, 08:56 PM
Well Pure Drive is seriously powerful but if you mean one of those light rocket launchers designed for beginners then try a Head Crossbow 10. The Crossbow is supposed to give the super thick beam frame even better rocket launching abilities.:twisted:

NickH87
08-13-2009, 10:15 PM
The TiS6....I crush flat balls and it sounds like explosions...of course in tennis ball forms since the pressure is gone...doesnt make that nice of a sound with the k blade lol.

Jack & Coke
08-13-2009, 10:29 PM
strange..

you guys all say the pure drives are "powerful", but TW lists pure drives as

"Power Level: Low-Medium"

Is TW wrong ??

Lsmkenpo
08-14-2009, 04:28 AM
strange..

you guys all say the pure drives are "powerful", but TW lists pure drives as

"Power Level: Low-Medium"

Is TW wrong ??



Pure Drives are not very powerful it is just a misconception perpetuated
by continued ignorance on this board. There are plenty of players frames with
more power than pure drives.

Lsmkenpo
08-14-2009, 04:30 AM
The TiS6....I crush flat balls and it sounds like explosions...of course in tennis ball forms since the pressure is gone...doesnt make that nice of a sound with the k blade lol.

Actually the TiS6 is one of the lowest powered frames in production see my
post earlier in this thread and the link to the power maps.

Lsmkenpo
08-14-2009, 04:35 AM
Rank these racquets in order of which you think is the most powerful to the least powerful, than click my link to the power map to see if you are correct.

1. Babolat Pure Drive 107
2. Gamma Big Bubba
3. Head Titanium Ti.S6
4. Head Flexpoint Radical MP

Power map for the above frames http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/comparepower.cgi?racquetA=BPD107|107|Babolat|Pure: Drive:107|RCBAB|x&racquetB=FPRMP|98|Head|Flexpoint:Radical::MP|RCHEA D|&racquetC=GBUBBA|137|Gamma|Big:Bubba|RCGAMMA|x&racquetD=TIS6|115|Head|Titanium:Ti.S6|RCHEAD|x

The Head Flexpoint Radical is the most powerful racquet in this list.