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FedEx23
06-19-2009, 10:34 AM
If Nadal will not be opening play on Monday like all the depending champions do on Centre Court, who will play there instead? Will Federer play? I'm concerned because I have Centre Court tickets for Friday June 26th, and I know the players play every other day. So who plays monday is who I will most likely see on Friday. Any thoughts?

R.Federer
06-19-2009, 10:38 AM
federer shud play as he was in the final last year and now the number 1 seed

AAAA
06-19-2009, 11:33 AM
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2009-06-19/200906191245395523523.html

It didn't take long to get an official word on the subject:

Nadal's absence will cause a reshuffle in the men’s singles draw. Nadal's place will be taken by fifth seed Juan Martin Del Potro. Del Potro's place will be taken by the 17th seed James Blake. Blake's place will be taken by Jose Arguso of Argentina and a lucky loser will fill Arguso's spot.

malakas
06-19-2009, 11:35 AM
I believe that Del Potro will play on Monday on CC and they are not going to change the days the draw plays.

AAAA
06-19-2009, 11:38 AM
I believe that Del Potro will play on Monday on CC and they are not going to change the days the draw plays.

I think Del Potro was in the bottom half now he's definately in the top half. I can see the Federer detractors moaning about this.

woodrow1029
06-19-2009, 11:38 AM
I think it would affect Tuesday, and not Monday. I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure the women's defending champ opens CC on day 1, and the men's opens CC on day 2.

malakas
06-19-2009, 11:39 AM
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2009-06-19/200906191245395523523.html

It didn't take long to get an official word on the subject:

Nadal's absence will cause a reshuffle in the menís singles draw. Nadal's place will be taken by fifth seed Juan Martin Del Potro. Del Potro's place will be taken by the 17th seed James Blake. Blake's place will be taken by Jose Arguso of Argentina and a lucky loser will fill Arguso's spot.

ahhh see?They changed it :http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2009-06-19/200906191245395523523.html

now they say kiefer!Soo many mistakes by wimby!!!:rolleyes:

malakas
06-19-2009, 11:41 AM
I think Del Potro was in the bottom half now he's definately in the top half. I can see the Federer detractors moaning about this.

well..the first day it is supposed to be the defending champion..since he doesn't participate..someone else would get the honour anyway..:/ but the down side of the draw,starts the second day,so no way that changes.
maybe they will put murray on!lol

Moose Malloy
06-19-2009, 11:41 AM
I think it would affect Tuesday, and not Monday. I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure the women's defending champ opens CC on day 1, and the men's opens CC on day 2.


no, mens defending champ always opens up play on the 1st Monday. womens champ gets Tuesday.

In '02 when Goran couldn't defend, Sampras(the '00 champ) got to start off the tournament.

So, I think its pretty likely that Fed will be 1st on on Monday.

malakas
06-19-2009, 11:43 AM
no, mens defending champ always opens up play on the 1st Monday. womens champ gets Tuesday.

In '02 when Goran couldn't defend, Sampras(the '00 champ) got to start off the tournament.

So, I think its pretty likely that Fed will be 1st on on Monday.

Moose,in 2002 was Sampras on the down side of the draw??As Fed is now?

AAAA
06-19-2009, 11:44 AM
ahhh see?They changed it :http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2009-06-19/200906191245395523523.html

now they say kiefer!Soo many mistakes by wimby!!!:rolleyes:

Del Potro's draw change is still constant though. Small(delta) changes elsewhere.

malakas
06-19-2009, 11:45 AM
Del Potro's draw change is still constant though. Small(delta) changes elsewhere.

the change in the draw according to the rules is:
Nadal--> Del Potro
Del Potro-->Blake
Blake-->Kiefer
Kiefer-->LL

Moose Malloy
06-19-2009, 11:46 AM
Moose,in 2002 was Sampras on the down side of the draw??As Fed is now?

Yes.

Wimbledon is all about tradition. I can't see Juan Martin Del Potro getting the 'honor' of breaking in the grass on Center Court just because he gets Nadal's spot in the draw. Draws & orders of play aren't related.

woodrow1029
06-19-2009, 11:46 AM
no, mens defending champ always opens up play on the 1st Monday. womens champ gets Tuesday.

In '02 when Goran couldn't defend, Sampras(the '00 champ) got to start off the tournament.

So, I think its pretty likely that Fed will be 1st on on Monday.
My bad.. you're right..

AAAA
06-19-2009, 11:47 AM
the change in the draw according to the rules is:
Nadal--> Del Potro
Del Potro-->Blake
Blake-->Kiefer
Kiefer-->LL

;-I I'll take your word for it. Tomorrow and then the day after, the schedule should be released by then.

malakas
06-19-2009, 11:47 AM
Yes.

Wimbledon is all about tradition. I can't see Juan Martin Del Potro getting the 'honor' of breaking in the grass on Center Court. It will be Fed.

ok.Thanx very much for the information.:)

FedEx23
06-19-2009, 12:03 PM
I really really hope Federer gets to start on Monday!

malakas
06-19-2009, 12:04 PM
If there's a precedent(?),and has happened before,as Moose says,then I'm sure you will get to see Federer FedEx.

bumfluff
06-19-2009, 12:23 PM
I'm kinda torn between who I want to see. I have CC tickets for the Friday, I am a huge fan of both Murray and Federer, but I've already seen Murray play in Davis Cup so i think I would like to see Federer, possibly on his way to the GS record.

gj011
06-19-2009, 12:36 PM
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2009-06-19/200906191245395523523.html

It didn't take long to get an official word on the subject:

Nadal's absence will cause a reshuffle in the menís singles draw. Nadal's place will be taken by fifth seed Juan Martin Del Potro. Del Potro's place will be taken by the 17th seed James Blake. Blake's place will be taken by Jose Arguso of Argentina and a lucky loser will fill Arguso's spot.

Not a big deal but I thought it should be Kiefer instead Arguso. Why Arguso?

malakas
06-19-2009, 12:38 PM
Not a big deal but I thought it should be Kiefer instead Arguso. Why Arguso?

it will be kiefer.Wimby made another mistake.but they fixed it after.Maybe you should read the whole thread before responding first,no?

FeŮa14
06-19-2009, 12:40 PM
Yeah i'm interested in this also. I'm going on Thursday, Friday and then the second Monday. Hopefully it will all be clear when they put the schedule out on Sunday(?)

Love Game
06-19-2009, 12:41 PM
...
maybe they will put murray on!lol

the change in the draw according to the rules is:
Nadal--> Del Potro
Del Potro-->Blake
Blake-->Kiefer
Kiefer-->LL

i still don't understand ... why would they not put murray in nadal's place? instead of delPotro? :confused:

gj011
06-19-2009, 12:41 PM
it will be kiefer.Wimby made another mistake.but they fixed it after.Maybe you should read the whole thread before responding first,no?

Ok, Ok, my bad. I was just surprised to see it said it is not Kiefer.

malakas
06-19-2009, 12:42 PM
i still don't understand ... why would they not put murray in nadal's place? instead of delPotro?

because the rule says so!The 5th seed in place for one of the top 4 seeds.It's very clear in the rules.

Love Game
06-19-2009, 12:45 PM
because the rule says so!The 5th seed in place for one of the top 4 seeds.It's very clear in the rules.

that's okay then ..... i guess i was hoping for a link, maybe?

Moose Malloy
06-19-2009, 12:48 PM
still don't understand ... why would they not put murray in nadal's place?

what difference would that make? Murray was already in Nadal's half.

The important thing is that none of the 4 highest ranked players in the draw could meet before the semis. Del Potro is now the 4th highest ranked player in the draw, so he had to be moved to Nadal's section.

If Murray was in Fed's half I could understand complaints. Because then we could have had a semi with the 2 highest ranked players in the tournament.

And they couldn't have moved him under the rules.

I think some fans here get too caught up in the number next to the seeds. should look
more at number groups(1-4, 5-8, etc) Keeping those groups away from each other is more imporant than the order you are in that group.

woodrow1029
06-19-2009, 12:51 PM
that's okay then ..... i guess i was hoping for a link, maybe?
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=268716

gj011
06-19-2009, 12:51 PM
that's okay then ..... i guess i was hoping for a link, maybe?

Here is the link LG:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=268716

Love Game
06-19-2009, 12:52 PM
The important thing is that none of the 4 highest ranked players in the draw could meet before the semis. Del Potro is now the 4th highest ranked player in the draw, so he had to be moved to Nadal's section.



ahhhhhhh ..... light dawns!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_13.gif

malakas
06-20-2009, 04:27 AM
no, mens defending champ always opens up play on the 1st Monday. womens champ gets Tuesday.

In '02 when Goran couldn't defend, Sampras(the '00 champ) got to start off the tournament.

So, I think its pretty likely that Fed will be 1st on on Monday.

Moose are you sure about it?Because I think it was Agassi.http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2002/jun/25/wimbledon2002.wimbledon3