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tudwell
06-23-2009, 01:15 PM
Who has had made the most grand slam finals without ever winning one? It's easy to find stats on the winners, but I can't find anything about those who never won.

Moose Malloy
06-23-2009, 01:25 PM
Safina, at 0-3

Lendl & Clijsters are the only players to start out 0-4 in major finals(as far as open era goes)

woodrow1029
06-23-2009, 01:32 PM
Safina, at 0-3

Lendl & Clijsters are the only players to start out 0-4 in major finals(as far as open era goes)
Who has the most for the men? Todd Martin?

flying24
06-23-2009, 01:46 PM
Todd Martin only lost 2 slam finals. 1994 Australian Open and 1999 U.S Open. They were the only 2 he ever reached. Had he not choked vs Washington in the 96 Wimbledon semis he would probably be sitting at 0-3 in slam finals now as I dont see him beating Krajicek in that final.

woodrow1029
06-23-2009, 01:49 PM
Todd Martin only lost 2 slam finals. 1994 Australian Open and 1999 U.S Open. They were the only 2 he ever reached. Had he not choked vs Washington in the 96 Wimbledon semis he would probably be sitting at 0-3 in slam finals now as I dont see him beating Krajicek in that final.
I understand that. I am asking if anyone has lost more than 2 grand slam finals and never won one. The OP's question was who lost the most and didn't win one. Moose said that Lendl and Clijsters were at one point 0-4, but both have won GS finals since then. Safina is 0-3. Are there any male players that lost 3 finals and never won one?

tudwell
06-23-2009, 02:18 PM
Safina, at 0-3

That's who I was thinking of when I started this thread. I imagine she'll get it together sometime and finally get a win, though.

tudwell
06-23-2009, 02:22 PM
I understand that. I am asking if anyone has lost more than 2 grand slam finals and never won one. The OP's question was who lost the most and didn't win one. Moose said that Lendl and Clijsters were at one point 0-4, but both have won GS finals since then. Safina is 0-3. Are there any male players that lost 3 finals and never won one?

Cedric Pioline also went 0-2 in slam finals.

I have a feeling if there's anyone that went 0-3 in slam finals, they did so fairly long ago. Some name most people would never hear these days.

krosero
06-23-2009, 03:45 PM
Harry Hopman was 0-3 lifetime. All three finals were at the Australian (1930-32).

krosero
06-23-2009, 03:46 PM
That's who I was thinking of when I started this thread. I imagine she'll get it together sometime and finally get a win, though.Chris Evert started off 0-3.

Lionheart392
06-23-2009, 04:25 PM
Mary Joe Fernandez is also 0-3 in slam finals.

hewittboy
06-23-2009, 04:27 PM
Novotna lost her first 3 slam finals and won her 4th. Helena Sukova lost all 4 of her slam finals.

CEvertFan
06-23-2009, 05:50 PM
Out of all the suggestions Sukova is the one who lost 4 GS finals. I think that's the most out of those players who made GS finals but never won one. At least she lost to superior players each time though

1984 Australian Open Chris Evert 67, 63, 6-1 (beat Navratilova in the SF)
1986 US Open Martina Navratilova 63, 62 (beat Evert in the SF)
1989 Australian Open Steffi Graf 64, 64
1993 US Open Steffi Graf 63, 63

grafrules
06-23-2009, 06:30 PM
Sukova's best shot at a slam title was really one she lost in the semis. She definitely could have won the 1990 Australian Open semifinal over Graf but she choked at the very end especialy with her last brick service game with 4 straight easy errors to lose. She would have been the heavy favorite over a very young Mary Joe Fernandez in her first ever slam final, almost certainly would have won.

She was in tears after her poor last service game and loss, since I think she knew that was probably her last ever shot of a slam title as she already had been declining from her late 84-early 89 position in the game by that point.

Benhur
06-23-2009, 07:25 PM
This is peripheral trivia. Raymond Poulidor is known as the "eternal second" in cycling. Finished second 3 times on the Tour, and third 5 times, including his last year at the age of 40. But since in cycling there is only one slam per year, his 3 second-place finishes could be seen as equivalent to 12 slam runnerups in tennis, if you look at it a certain way.

He was very popular. Fans would wait for him on the top of mountains and cheer him saying:
Allez Poulidor! Allez Pou-Pou!

The Irish writer Samuel Beckett said he got the idea for the title of his famous play "Waiting for Godot" when he read a report on some hard core cycling fans still waiting by the side of the road, long after the peloton had gone by. When asked what they were doing, they said: "On attend Godot" We're waiting for Godot, the name of some local rider.

nfor304
06-23-2009, 08:30 PM
ivanisevic was 0-3 before his one and only slam