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BreakPoint
06-24-2009, 10:15 AM
"In the history of tennis, everybody's an underachiever," Safin said. "Agassi should have been winning, I don't know, 15 Grand Slams. Sampras should have been winning 20 Grand Slams. Federer should be winning already should have 25."

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12676046?

T1000
06-24-2009, 10:19 AM
Safin was partying too much before the interview :wink:

dincuss
06-24-2009, 10:26 AM
Hes trying to make his career not seem so bad :D

I wish he would just focus

BreakPoint
06-24-2009, 10:28 AM
Hes trying to make his career not seem so bad :D

I wish he would just focus
Wouldn't it make his career seem even worse if Federer won 25, since he's only won two? :confused:

abmk
06-24-2009, 10:29 AM
Maybe he was just being a bit sarcastic ??

Andres
06-24-2009, 10:30 AM
Wouldn't it make his career seem even worse if Federer won 25, since he's only won two? :confused:
No, because he would be playing in a era with a guy that SHOULD HAVE won at least 25.

angharad
06-24-2009, 10:33 AM
Wouldn't it make his career seem even worse if Federer won 25, since he's only won two? :confused:

I think he means that everyone else talks like Federer should have won everything in his career - like Federer having a "bad" year because he won "only" one slam. It's similar to how everyone says Marat should have accomplished more in his career, instead of being happy he accomplished what he did.

It's trying to shift the focus to the positive, instead of harping on the negative.

BreakPoint
06-24-2009, 10:34 AM
No, because he would be playing in a era with a guy that SHOULD HAVE won at least 25.
And don't forget that he was also playing in the era with two guys that SHOULD HAVE won 15 and 20 Slams, respectively. ;-)

Mick
06-24-2009, 10:43 AM
i think if safin had nadal's fighting spirit, he probably would have won more than 2 grand slam titles.

Cesc Fabregas
06-24-2009, 11:03 AM
Tell me where Roger's 11 extra slams come from?

flying24
06-24-2009, 11:08 AM
Tell me where Roger's 11 extra slams come from?

Well if he wasnt an underachiever early in his career he could have won alot more slams in 2001-2003. He is better than Hewitt obviously, and most of the slams won those years were all people he could beat if he had began to mature sooner- Hewitt, Johansson, Costa, aging Agassi, Roddick, aging Sampras, past his prime Ivanisevic.

RCizzle65
06-24-2009, 11:09 AM
Maybe he was just being a bit sarcastic ??

Probably so, I didn't read the interview, but the quote is talking about underachievers, and most people note Safin as a huge underachiever, so he's exaggerating numbers around and being sarcastic saying that even huge achievers are underachievers.

Aykhan Mammadov
06-24-2009, 11:12 AM
I don't think anybody can seriously listen and believe to what Safin is saying.

icedevil0289
06-24-2009, 11:12 AM
eh, safin must have been high when he said this.

Shangri La
06-24-2009, 11:16 AM
'everybody is an underachiever...' so basically Safin is saying everyone should have won more GS. but theres only 4 GS in a year, where do the extra grand slams come from if everyone is winning more?? Is he suggesting there should be 10 GS each year?

RCizzle65
06-24-2009, 11:21 AM
Everyone, HE IS BEING SARCASTIC

sureshs
06-24-2009, 11:40 AM
Safin is joking. It is not meant to be taken seriously.

BreakPoint
06-24-2009, 12:26 PM
Tell me where Roger's 11 extra slams come from?
Well, 6 from Nadal right there if Nadal were clean (I know, no proof yet).

One from Djokovic if he didn't have mono.

The other four he should have won in 2002-2004.

So there's your extra 11 Grand Slams. :)

Serendipitous
06-24-2009, 12:27 PM
Safin must have died before that interview.

ChanceEncounter
06-24-2009, 12:28 PM
Sarcasm is lost on the internet.

Davai Marat!

malakas
06-24-2009, 12:31 PM
according to safin,how many slams should SAFIN have won??

ChanceEncounter
06-24-2009, 12:32 PM
according to safin,how many slams should SAFIN have won??
Enough to get all the ladies.

Rickson
06-24-2009, 12:33 PM
Let's see. Flushing Meadows 2003 = 1, FO 2004 = 2, AO and FO 2005 = 4, FO 2006 = 5, FO 2007 = 6, AO + FO + Wimbledon 2008 = 9, AO 2009 = 10. 14 + 10 = 24. Safin was off by 1 slam.

Serendipitous
06-24-2009, 12:34 PM
Let's see. Flushing Meadows 2003 = 1, FO 2004 = 2, AO and FO 2005 = 4, FO 2006 = 5, FO 2007 = 6, AO + FO + Wimbledon 2008 = 8, AO 2009 = 9. 14 + 9 = 23. Safin was off by 2 slams.


Hi Rickson,


How the hell are you? :)

malakas
06-24-2009, 12:36 PM
Enough to get all the ladies.

he would get them even without any slams.:p

FedFan_2009
06-24-2009, 12:45 PM
Maratsky being a wiseacre as usual...

Rickson
06-24-2009, 12:49 PM
Pretty good, dipitous.

FedFan_2009
06-24-2009, 12:50 PM
I think winning 14/24 isn't half bad, no?

Rickson
06-24-2009, 01:02 PM
58% to be precise. 56% when you include his latest win at RG.

Jchurch
06-24-2009, 01:04 PM
Enough to get all the ladies.

He already did :)

jamesblakefan#1
06-24-2009, 01:07 PM
I can't believe people are actually trying to find Fed an extra 11 slams. It was a joke, people. A JOKE.

gj011
06-24-2009, 01:08 PM
Let's see. Flushing Meadows 2003 = 1, FO 2004 = 2, AO and FO 2005 = 4, FO 2006 = 5, FO 2007 = 6, AO + FO + Wimbledon 2008 = 9, AO 2009 = 10. 14 + 10 = 24. Safin was off by 1 slam.

I don't think Safin would count his own slam as one of Federer's 25.

beernutz
06-24-2009, 01:14 PM
Holy cow, read the rest of the interview people, the link is right there. He admits he thinks he an underachiever and should have won a couple of more majors but that he's happy with his career.

sureshs
06-24-2009, 01:27 PM
Well, 6 from Nadal right there if Nadal were clean (I know, no proof yet).


So that was your motive behind this thread, to imply Nadal is doping. I was thinking, BP doesn't start threads like this based on some junk from Safin.

GameSampras
06-24-2009, 01:45 PM
"In the history of tennis, everybody's an underachiever," Safin said. "Agassi should have been winning, I don't know, 15 Grand Slams. Sampras should have been winning 20 Grand Slams. Federer should be winning — already should have 25."

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12676046?



And Safin... If you actually gave a damn about your profession you should be sitting on a hell of alot more than 2 slams

zagor
06-24-2009, 01:48 PM
Safin was probably drunk when the interview took place.

makinao
06-24-2009, 03:02 PM
That's sarcasm/joking, most probably borne from the reporters stupid question. I would have wanted to see Safin's face while he said that. Priceless!

BreakPoint
06-24-2009, 03:07 PM
So that was your motive behind this thread, to imply Nadal is doping. I was thinking, BP doesn't start threads like this based on some junk from Safin.
WTF are you talking about? :-?

NO, I was NOT thinking of anything like that at all when I started this thread. Only someone with a seriously distorted mind would start a thread based on that.

I read Safin's quote in the local newspaper today so I thought it would be something interesting to post on here. THAT'S ALL!!!! :-?

I'll leave it up to you (and others) to speculate where the other 11 Slams would come from.

Rhino
06-24-2009, 03:09 PM
they would have to hold 6 or 7 grand slams a year for those figures to even be possible!

BreakPoint
06-24-2009, 03:12 PM
they would have to hold 6 or 7 grand slams a year for those figures to even be possible!
Not really. If Federer won every GS from 2003-2008, that's 24 right there. Add in this year's AO or FO, and he's already got 25. :)

bolo
06-24-2009, 03:19 PM
Well that means Safin thinks nadal should get at least 25. :)

Rhino
06-24-2009, 03:29 PM
Not really. If Federer won every GS from 2003-2008, that's 24 right there. Add in this year's AO or FO, and he's already got 25. :)

Ok but according to Safin, Agassi and Sampras should've won a total of 35, plus he said Rios should've won 5 - so with Federer's 25 that's 65 grand slams between just four people, and I presume he still at least expects his own two slams... and does he then expect that Nadal and Hewitt, etc won zero? :)

BreakPoint
06-24-2009, 04:03 PM
Ok but according to Safin, Agassi and Sampras should've won a total of 35, plus he said Rios should've won 5 - so with Federer's 25 that's 65 grand slams between just four people, and I presume he still at least expects his own two slams... and does he then expect that Nadal and Hewitt, etc won zero? :)
No one ever accused Safin of being good at math. ;)

BTW, where did he say that Rios should have won 5?

Max G.
06-24-2009, 04:13 PM
It seems to be just his response to being called an underachiever.

"Yeah, I could have won a few more... but so could have everyone else."

pound cat
06-24-2009, 04:42 PM
Everyone, HE IS BEING SARCASTIC

Likely this is a continuatoin of the often heard statement that Safin should have won more than 2 Slams.



Many on thie mb don't understand the bsics of the English language. let alone its subleties.

TennisFan481
06-24-2009, 05:44 PM
LOL, you people are ridiculous. I can't believe you're getting caught up in the literal feasibility and missing the forest for the trees.

lawrence
06-24-2009, 07:02 PM
eh, safin must have been high when he said this.

sorry i know this is off topic, but i absolutely hate it when people say these things

if you say something overly thought out - you're high
if you say something truthful - you're drunk
if you say something stupid - you're most probably sober

being high =/= being stupid lol

Dark Victory
06-24-2009, 09:25 PM
If Federer peaked earlier, I think Pete probably would've retired a little later.

Fed wasn't ready to win in 01. But he could've been in 02.

Suppose Fed had his first Wimbledon in 02 (with Sampras STILL winning 02 USO and Roger not playing him). If you transplant Fed's success in 04 to 03, all that "potential GOAT" talk would've probably already started to churn for him... at a time when Sampras was still around and had yet to announce his retirement.

Would've been interesting.

Rhino
06-24-2009, 10:06 PM
BTW, where did he say that Rios should have won 5?

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/articles/2009-06-23/200906231245791482453.html

joeri888
06-24-2009, 10:29 PM
Safin's just saying, everyone could have won more than they actually have. He's happy with what a great career he's had and doesn't want to be remembered as an underachiever, but just as a former no. 1 and 2 time Slam winner with a great game.

Perseverance
06-26-2009, 12:18 PM
If only Marat was mentally stronger, and so too Nalbandian (plus motivated), I doubt roger would have even won 10 :twisted:

DunlopDood
06-26-2009, 03:42 PM
Sarcasm is lost on the internet.

Davai Marat!

Exactly! get a clue people.

フェデラー
06-26-2009, 03:47 PM
WTF are you talking about? :-?

NO, I was NOT thinking of anything like that at all when I started this thread. Only someone with a seriously distorted mind would start a thread based on that.

I read Safin's quote in the local newspaper today so I thought it would be something interesting to post on here. THAT'S ALL!!!! :-?

I'll leave it up to you (and others) to speculate where the other 11 Slams would come from.

well it could be true:confused:

P_Agony
06-26-2009, 03:50 PM
Well, 6 from Nadal right there if Nadal were clean (I know, no proof yet).

One from Djokovic if he didn't have mono.

The other four he should have won in 2002-2004.

So there's your extra 11 Grand Slams. :)

That's a bold accusation right there! What makes you think that? I really disagree with you. Nadal won his slams fair and square.

vbranis
06-26-2009, 04:20 PM
I don't think he was being sarcastic. He is just saying that you can point the finger at anyone and call them an underachiever because truth is, everyone has blown chances at achieving more.

Guru
06-26-2009, 04:23 PM
Safin's way of saying people overrate him.

BreakPoint
06-26-2009, 04:29 PM
That's a bold accusation right there! What makes you think that? I really disagree with you. Nadal won his slams fair and square.
What "accusation"? :confused:

You even quoted and bolded the word "if". Nothing has yet to be proven one way or the other.

nadal for number1
06-26-2009, 06:06 PM
marat is known for being funny :)

random1
06-26-2009, 06:09 PM
Exactly! get a clue people.


No kidding! The stupidity on this forum is appalling at times... Sarcasm is too subtle, I suppose.

stanfordtennis alum
06-26-2009, 06:17 PM
25 is pushing is but 20 is more reasonable...he is human