Water of Love, Deep in the Ground...

[plasma]

wanted to find out what water people drink, how they remember to drink enough, how they store it, whether they believe that alakline water dissolves toxins and is the miracle cure. Artesian Well water? distilled? what's your favorite??? Is tap water really unhealthy because of it's low ph (acid)? Fuji "feels" cleaner to me than other waters, but I'm looking to upgrade to an even more pure tasting H2O, thanks.

[acehole]

my favorite is aquafina. i could drink gallons of it.

mostly i drink water right from the tap. everyone needs the flouride, without it, no teeth:)

[charliefedererer]

I'm lucky to live in an area with great tap water from a mountain resevoir. (Blind taste tests always show this water beats the leading bottled waters.) Not having to buy plastic bottles is good for the environment.
I'd be leery of any miracle cure claims from alkaline water.

[ollinger]

This makes little sense to me. What do you THINK you mean by "dissolve toxins"?? I sense no understanding of physiology. The body self-corrects for pH. I see blood pH done on people every day and regardless of what they drink, they are right at 7.4 unless there is an illness known to cause a metabolic or respiratory acidosis or alkalosis. Do you believe the water you drink affects your body pH??? It does not.

[certifiedjatt]

This makes little sense to me. What do you THINK you mean by "dissolve toxins"?? I sense no understanding of physiology. The body self-corrects for pH. I see blood pH done on people every day and regardless of what they drink, they are right at 7.4 unless there is an illness known to cause a metabolic or respiratory acidosis or alkalosis. Do you believe the water you drink affects your body pH??? It does not.

what do you do, ollinger?

[ollinger]

I practice psychiatry and neurology, ran a neuropharm/psychopharm research unit for a number of years, majored in physiology in college. I encounter arterial blood chemistries every day in my consulting work and promise you there are no acid pH people walking around (have never seen a blood pH below roughly 7.2 in even the most desperately ill patient)

[ollinger]

And tonight.....I'm a babysitter, with my wife, for my niece's 8 month old.

[gastro54]

woooooosaaaaa

[BullDogTennis]

what about when water has a lot of calcium in it or whatever. i know our water where i live tastes "soft" i guess is how to describe it. its not as good as bottled water.

[maverick66]

woooooosaaaaa

i saw what you had there before the edit. You were correct in your thinking but it was getting deleted.



Just get a water filter and call it a day. No need to get these fancy name brand things. They are a rip off.

[plasma]

hey ollie, you're totally right... Outside of the boxing ring, the tennis court, a dark alley and my girlfreinds' bedroom my "CLINICAL" understanding of physiology is weak compared to yours.
What you "sense" is misleading you. Truth is, as a coach in boxing and tennis, I understand quite a bit about physiology, although I apologize for perhaps not understanding as much as you, Sir.
You would have to be dumb (global friggin troll idot), though not to understand what "dissolves" means and what "toxins" means. Just man up and say you disagree with that hypothesis, don't act like you don't understand the 'non-scientific" side of the argument.
One side of the argument, (the scientists) claim that in transition from the stomach to intestines, the ph is balanced and all water turns alkaline, so the water itself matters little. The other side of the battle (water freaks/ new agers/ hippies) claim that drinking water high in ph (base) will dissolve and balance acids in the body before that point and that water molecules are smaller in pure water (twice as small as tap) and that this pure small high ph water penetrates and hyper-hydrates the cells.
All I know is that tap water doesn't feel or taste the same as good bottled water in my city.
I haven't even told you which side I'm on and you already wan't to judge me. I "sense" no comprehension of the English language and/ or a global d-bag...
I am open to scientific discussions on this matter. But I'd like for this thread to be a friendly and accessible place for those of us who work on canvas and tennis courts, not phase 3 lab floors. It's friggin obvious that I and everyone else who has chimed in understands enough about this subject to be here.....fi
Hey mav some of those britta filter jugs containers taste awful, not so sure high silica high ph pure moutain water can be made by a filter. Like you Mav, I work real hard on my body. I made this thread because I am starting to be more aware of my water intake. Your obviously a gymrat...how much H20 do you drink a day and how do you remember to drink that much?
thanks, Man...-plasma

[gastro54]

The other side of the battle (water freaks/ new agers/ hippies) claim that drinking water high in ph (base) will dissolve and balance acids in the body before that point and that water molecules are smaller in pure water (twice as small as tap) and that this pure small high ph water penetrates and hyper-hydrates the cells.
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Fuji "feels" cleaner to me than other waters, but I'm looking to upgrade to an even more pure tasting H2O, thanks.
not so sure high silica high ph pure moutain water can be made by a filter
These comments suggests that you to some extent believe the marketing propaganda on the Fiji page that hints of silica being potentially beneficial: http://www.fijiwater.com/Why.aspx
Fiji water is discussed in many college marketing courses as an example of a huge marketing success. Fiji has managed to create a brand image that associates high status with their overpriced water which is why it is so popular.
Fiji water's invite-mockery marketing strategy (http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2009/04/30/fiji-waters-invite-mockery-marketing-strategy/)
Bottled waters in general are a ripoff if you access to potable tap water.


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[maverick66]

I drink alot of water plasma. Its a habit i picked up in florida and still have today. I have one of those clear water containers. I fill it all day long and keep drinking. It sucks i pee all day but i feel better.

[acehole]

I drink alot of water plasma. Its a habit i picked up in florida and still have today. I have one of those clear water containers. I fill it all day long and keep drinking. It sucks i pee all day but i feel better.

i went to boot camp in florida. drank tons of water and still do to this day. my favorite drink.

do you also judge your hydration by the color of your urine?

[maverick66]

Ya if im not peeing clear i am not happy. I have a 32 ounce container that i fill at least 3-4 times a day. and thats even when i am not moving. I used to pick up a gallon jug on the way to tennis every morning and it would be gone by the end of the day. Before the sun feel i drank it all. It was just a good habit to get into as i never once got destroyed by the heat. People who would take sips from the fountain here or there went down all the time from the heat. I would also have another container with some accelarade in it. Would sip that well i played as well. so important to keep your body hydrated.

[r2473]

I "sense" no comprehension of the English language and/ or a global d-bag...
I am open to scientific discussions on this matter. But I'd like for this thread to be a friendly and accessible place

I have to assume these two sentences were placed back-to-back in an ironic sense.

Personally, I feel I am a global D-bag, as I hate to limit my "D-bagged-ness" to the US only.

[plasma]

mav, your drink routine has inspired me, thanks for sharing you wisdom. Next hot day I'm getting a gallon of water. Someone said distilled is the purest but I don't think it tastes as natural as spring water. Real spring water from a spring is the best, trust me.
Anyone who thinks I'm a fool for buying tap hasn't drank the unsatisfying tap in my city. As far as marketing propaganda and it affecting my beliefs, ninja please.
I felt the effects of certain organic whole foods and liquids on my training over a decade ago. In a blind taste test I'd bet my house that I could taste the difference between the shite "potable" tap in my city and my delicious Fiji. Then again I am highly sensitive to the effects of food and drink on my energy level, and the feeling I get from Fiji, can be described as a purer, cleaner feeling going down the hatch.
Tap seems to sit in my stomach and has a nasty taste in my city. There are some cities with great water on tap. If you don't live in one my guess is that it might be wise to buy bottled.

[mike53]

Buying water is a big drain on your wallet, and it is environmentally unsound and inconvenient. Get yourself a 5-stage reverse osmosis water filter and install it under your sink. Pour yourself a couple gallons a day and refrigerate it in glass containers. Fill your own bottles from your fridge. Generic filters go for a couple hundred $$, but you can save that back pretty quick since you won't need to buy water anymore. After a couple months drinking nothing but your own filtered water, you will be actually be able to identify the tastes of the dissolved solids in the various commercial waters

http://www.waterfiltersonline.com

[El Diablo]

Cardiologists have read for decades that drinking distilled water may increase risk of heart disease since it lacks vital trace elements and minerals.

[plasma]

glad you said that, I sensed distilled tasted kinda flat. Some water freak crazy about this ph stuff posted that distilled is the most pure. Tastes awful if you ask me. Almost as bad as tap, almost a chalky dry taste compared to fresh mountain spring water.

[adams_1]

The other side of the battle (water freaks/ new agers/ hippies) claim that drinking water high in ph (base) will dissolve and balance acids in the body before that point and that water molecules are smaller in pure water (twice as small as tap) and that this pure small high ph water penetrates and hyper-hydrates the cells.

Hold up. People actually believe that?

[plasma]

deeply, it's prophesized on the internet and used to sell millions in water filters and other crap, high ph water is said to contain clusters of water molecules that typically have half as many cells.
It's a "caring" and easy sell to anyone who cares about health, is not a scientist and can sense the difference between pure mountain spring water and the bad aftertaste of most city tap water.
The final blow is that when they tell you that you're exhausted because your water is acid and not alkaline and it's robbing you of nutrition.
Are they wrong?
Let's look at the silica, ph, disolved solids, magnesium, bicarbonates in Fuji versus tap water. I'm no scientist, just someone who drinks water. A bottle of Fuji gives me infinitely more energy and tastes and feels better than tap water, that's why I drink the expensive crap.
Also, artesian well water is the purest richest water in the world. You can argue legitimately argue on the side of the scientists against the new agers on any point but that. At the end of the day both sides are way too extreme and flawed.
Before this turns into a science circle jerk I want to say to those who live where these is pure fresh tasty water on tap congrats. If my tap gave me decent tasting water I'd drink it...
I'm rehydrating now after