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Nadalfan89
07-09-2009, 08:44 PM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

samprasvsfederer123
07-09-2009, 08:53 PM
telling me hes gonna beat federer who def wants to win to break another record, the new and improved roddick, and and equally hungry murray? maybe but i dont think so

dwhiteside
07-09-2009, 08:57 PM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

I'll state the obvious: whatever his problem is called, tendonitis or schmlendonitis, it caused him to withdraw from Wimbledon; so yes, it most definitely IS a big deal. How many defending champions in history have withdrawn from the major tournaments, especially those as tenacious as Nadal?

dh003i
07-09-2009, 09:25 PM
Yea, it's a big deal. But hopefully, Nadal will take all the rest he needs and be back strong.

It wouldn't be a bad thing if he came back to win the USO.

Or if Roddick did.

Or if Federer did.

AAUS
07-09-2009, 09:29 PM
If it really is tendonitis and Rafa gives it the time it needs to completely recover like it seems hes doing right now, he's going to come back better than before. Seriously if it is tendonitis and he allows his body to completely recover his knees will be stronger and in better shape than before. It can be chronic if he keeps playing too much over too long in the future but hes a smart guy, hes gonna cut his schedule and be more selective.

This is all if it really only is tendonitis though. If it was something serious which it could with the extended time off hes taken he could end up like Hewitt. But more likely he took wimbledon off to make sure the knees were completely fine and a little more to give himself a break. If I were a Nadal fan I would not worry at all about his comeback, I'm more worried as a Fed fan that Nadal comes and takes one of those hardcourt masters and throws federers confidence going into the USO a little.

OTMPut
07-09-2009, 10:05 PM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

Hey yea blind fella. Federer never pulled out of any major in 2008. Nor he was pawned in 4th round.

DownTheLine
07-09-2009, 10:07 PM
I was being rude I am sorry.

Blinkism
07-09-2009, 10:28 PM
I'll state the obvious: whatever his problem is called, tendonitis or schmlendonitis, it caused him to withdraw from Wimbledon; so yes, it most definitely IS a big deal. How many defending champions in history have withdrawn from the major tournaments, especially those as tenacious as Nadal?

- Bjorn Borg, 1981 French Open Champion did not defend his title
- Vitas Gerulaitis, 1977 Australian Open Champion did not defend his title
- Andres Gomez, 1990 French Open Champion did not defend his title
- Goran Ivanisevic, 2001 Wimbledon Champion did not defend his title
- Andre Agassi, 2001 Australian Open Champion did not defend his title
- Pete Sampras, 2002 US Open Champion did not defend his title

and many more

It happens, what's the big deal?

MizunoMX20
07-09-2009, 10:30 PM
I think knowing Nadal he is definately in with a shout. The last few years he's had an extremely busy schedule running op to USO, so the rest might be a good thing for him.

Maybe it's wishful thinking but I think he's the main favourite next to Federer.

zagor
07-09-2009, 10:32 PM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

Sure it's possible,if he's recovered fully by then then why not.He reached SF last year so he might go a step or two further this year,I wouldn't put him as the 1st favourite but he certainly has a fair shot.After all he did win Olympics which was played on the same surface(he really played well there)and as I said reacheds SF at USO last year.

And yes,I sincerely doubt Nadal won't win any more slams in the future.People here are fickle,I remember how many Fed is done/should retire and similar threads were there after his loss at AO this year and Wimbledon last year.Never write off a champion I say,you might regret it later.

Blinkism
07-09-2009, 10:36 PM
Sure it's possible,if he's recovered fully by then then why not.He reached SF last year so he might go a step or two further this year,I wouldn't put him as the 1st favourite but he certainly has a fair shot.After all he did win Olympics which was played on the same surface(he really played well there)and as I said reacheds SF at USO last year.

And yes,I sincerely doubt Nadal won't win any more slams in the future.People here are fickle,I remember how many Fed is done/should retire and similar threads were there after his loss at AO this year and Wimbledon last year.Never write off a champion I say,you might regret it later.

Also, the Canada Masters is the same surface as the USO and Nadal is a 2-time champion there.

So the next 2 Masters should be a clear sign of Nadal's fitness for the US Open.

FedFan_2009
07-09-2009, 10:36 PM
Let's see how he does in the 2 Masters events first before declaring him US Open champ. Even a 100% Nadal is not shoe-in to win it.

rommil
07-09-2009, 10:36 PM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

Amputated? Well there's always wheelchair tennis.

zagor
07-09-2009, 10:38 PM
Also, the Canada Masters is the same surface as the USO and Nadal is a 2-time champion there.

So the next 2 Masters should be a clear sign of Nadal's fitness for the US Open.

Sure we'll see how he does there but given that he lost in Doha warmup this year to Monfils and still went on to win AO I wouldn't write him off even if he doesn't do that well at Canada and Cinncinati.

katie_l
07-09-2009, 10:48 PM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

Hush. Shhhh. Be quiet. I'm mostly a Federer fan, but I love Nadal and miss his presence in the tennis world (I'm a tennis fan first). Don't jinx the US Open...one step at a time, my friend, let him get through Montreal first.

There's no doubt that Nadal will win more grand slams, but slow and steady, he's so young, but his knees are obviously a major issue and his style of play doesn't help his cause. My hope is that he can adapt and adjust. He's a great player with great skill -- but he needs to be able to go the distance without destroying his body. Frankly, I'd prefer him lose a few, get into the swing of things AND THEN focus on winning, defending points, and winning slams.

Nadal has already proven himself as on of the best ever, in fact, he's forced himself into the GOAT argument at a younger age than Fed did (again, I'm mostly a Federer fan) -- and anyone who questions that is a moron -- sometimes I think he becomes overzealous...which isn't entirely bad, but not entirely healthy.

At the end of the day, I just want to see a few more amazing matches between Federer and Nadal when they're both feeling great -- the two of them have such respect for each other and it's such an amazing rivalry. Roddick was a nice substitute, but it wasn't the same.

ninman
07-09-2009, 10:59 PM
- Bjorn Borg, 1981 French Open Champion did not defend his title
- Vitas Gerulaitis, 1977 Australian Open Champion did not defend his title
- Andres Gomez, 1990 French Open Champion did not defend his title
- Goran Ivanisevic, 2001 Wimbledon Champion did not defend his title
- Andre Agassi, 2001 Australian Open Champion did not defend his title
- Pete Sampras, 2002 US Open Champion did not defend his title

and many more

It happens, what's the big deal?

At least 3 of the people on your list did not defend their title because they retired, not because they were injured.

Blinkism
07-09-2009, 11:38 PM
At least 3 of the people on your list did not defend their title because they retired, not because they were injured.

Borg, Sampras, and who else?

Btw, Borg not defending his title is a good sign of not being tenacious. He retired in his prime, not like Sampras who was at the tail end of his career when it made sense.

crazylevity
07-09-2009, 11:40 PM
- Bjorn Borg, 1981 French Open Champion did not defend his title
- Vitas Gerulaitis, 1977 Australian Open Champion did not defend his title
- Andres Gomez, 1990 French Open Champion did not defend his title
- Goran Ivanisevic, 2001 Wimbledon Champion did not defend his title
- Andre Agassi, 2001 Australian Open Champion did not defend his title
- Pete Sampras, 2002 US Open Champion did not defend his title

and many more

It happens, what's the big deal?

Borg, Ivanisevic and Sampras retired within a year of that happening. Not applicable to the case with Nadal.

Blinkism
07-09-2009, 11:43 PM
Borg, Ivanisevic and Sampras retired within a year of that happening. Not applicable to the case with Nadal.

Ivanisevic retired 3 years after (he played Wimbledon 2004) - shoulder injury prevented him from playing Wimbledon the next year.

Borg retired a year after (he played Monte Carlo 1982) - Borg's retirement decision was not based on age or lack of results, but his own reasoning to retire in the middle of his prime. He really should have played the 1982 FO and I'd think he would have been the favorite.

and Sampras fully retired after the USO, yes, I'll give you that one.

batz
07-09-2009, 11:54 PM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

Let's hope that you are correct - but tendonitis can be a very big deal to a professional sportsman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Hargreaves


The start of Hargreaves' second season at United was blighted by injury worries, specifically a recurring patellar tendinitis problem that restricted him to sporadic appearances in 2007–08. After trips to specialists in both London and Sweden yielded no results, Hargreaves travelled to Colorado, United States, in November 2008 to visit renowned knee surgeon, Richard Steadman.[2][3] Hargreaves underwent surgery on his right knee on 10 November 2008 and received a similar operation on his left knee in January 2009. However, this meant that Hargreaves would miss the remainder of the 2008–09 season.[4]

kOaMaster
07-10-2009, 12:15 AM
I don't think so @ OP.
Do not compare injuries with people who are called off for weird reasons.
And do not compare what Federer did in the last few months with Nadals situation.

tata
07-10-2009, 01:13 AM
Well its not impossible that Nadal wins the USO. But he will have a harder time though, depending on his knees. Not to mention the competition is tougher on hardcourts.But yea its definitely possible but lets not jump the gun. Hardcourt season is where Nadal kind of fades abit. I would say last year was as good as it gets for nadal in terms of hardcouts but i guess he can always win the USO even if he gets knocked out in masters series and other tournaments leading to the USO.

But i would like to see roddick win it this year for a change.Im a fed fan but ever since he broke the record i dont feel like i need to root for him as much.

aphex
07-10-2009, 01:30 AM
]Ivanisevic retired 3 years after (he played Wimbledon 2004) - shoulder injury prevented him from playing Wimbledon the next year.[/B]

Borg retired a year after (he played Monte Carlo 1982) - Borg's retirement decision was not based on age or lack of results, but his own reasoning to retire in the middle of his prime. He really should have played the 1982 FO and I'd think he would have been the favorite.

and Sampras fully retired after the USO, yes, I'll give you that one.

wrong.

from wikipedia:

The 2001 Wimbledon title was the last of Ivanišević's career. He temporarily retired later in 2001 due to shoulder surgery. He returned to tennis in 2004 but retired permanently after a third-round loss to Lleyton Hewitt at Wimbledon, held on the Centre Court, the scene of his greatest triumph.

T. H. Park
07-10-2009, 07:19 AM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

Tendinitis is just one problem with Nadal. It has been with him since day 1 basically. His real problem is losing at RG to Sodelring in the quarter finals (and before that Madrid in straights to Federer whom he "owns" on clay AND barely winning a 3 set match in 4+ hours to Djokovic AND Verdasco at AO ... AND etc.). At the Madrid interview Rafa said something like RG is totally different and he's totally ready. He may have been right at that time but was wrong in the end.

I am pretty sure he stands a good chance of winning more majors, especially RG. But the USO is a tough one. But he may surprise everyone. He will be fresh and may actually achieve it, but fast HC are his worst surfaces, so, at best, it will be most difficult (his early rounds will be especially important for him). If he does not do well this remainder of the season, I don't see him bouncing back next year. If he does well, I can see him come back strong next year. The mental aspect is really key here, more than those knees in some respects.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-10-2009, 07:30 AM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

Yeah,if you keep telling yourself that he will repeatedly maybe you will believe it in the end.

mandy01
07-10-2009, 07:36 AM
For some reason I agree with the OP.
Remember guys Rafa was out the end of last year and bounced back to win the AO.
Its definitely possible IMO.He's Rafa Nadal.You never count him out.
Havent those who gave him no fair chance at the AO not learned anything yet?

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-10-2009, 07:40 AM
For some reason I agree with the OP.
Remember guys Rafa was out the end of last year and bounced back to win the AO.
Its definitely possible IMO.He's Rafa Nadal.You never count him out.
Havent those who gave him no fair chance at the AO not learned anything yet?
As far as i know,there is a HUGE difference between the AO and the Open.

lambielspins
07-10-2009, 07:49 AM
For some reason I agree with the OP.
Remember guys Rafa was out the end of last year and bounced back to win the AO.
Its definitely possible IMO.He's Rafa Nadal.You never count him out.
Havent those who gave him no fair chance at the AO not learned anything yet?

Actually before the Australian Open many were picking him to win. The U.S Open is a much faster surface and he is coming back from an injury, plus Federer, Murray, Del Potro, and Roddick are all stronger now than they were before January.

Rippy
07-10-2009, 07:50 AM
As far as i know,there is a HUGE difference between the AO and the Open.

Yes, and there is a HUGE difference between Roland Garros and AO. Nadal is good at achieving things people didn't think he would ever do.

CCNM
07-10-2009, 07:51 AM
Hush. Shhhh. Be quiet. I'm mostly a Federer fan, but I love Nadal and miss his presence in the tennis world (I'm a tennis fan first). Don't jinx the US Open...one step at a time, my friend, let him get through Montreal first.

There's no doubt that Nadal will win more grand slams, but slow and steady, he's so young, but his knees are obviously a major issue and his style of play doesn't help his cause. My hope is that he can adapt and adjust. He's a great player with great skill -- but he needs to be able to go the distance without destroying his body. Frankly, I'd prefer him lose a few, get into the swing of things AND THEN focus on winning, defending points, and winning slams.

Nadal has already proven himself as on of the best ever, in fact, he's forced himself into the GOAT argument at a younger age than Fed did (again, I'm mostly a Federer fan) -- and anyone who questions that is a moron -- sometimes I think he becomes overzealous...which isn't entirely bad, but not entirely healthy.

At the end of the day, I just want to see a few more amazing matches between Federer and Nadal when they're both feeling great -- the two of them have such respect for each other and it's such an amazing rivalry. Roddick was a nice substitute, but it wasn't the same.

Good post (clap, clap)

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-10-2009, 07:52 AM
Yes, and there is a HUGE difference between Roland Garros and AO. Nadal is good at achieving things people didn't think he would ever do.
No. Insert Federers name instead of Nadals and you will get it right.

Mansewerz
07-10-2009, 07:56 AM
His tendonitis is a big deal. He pulled out of Wimbledon!!!!!!!


And the Fed example doesn't work. Fed wasn't injured after Wimbledon.

andrew_fernando2
07-10-2009, 08:02 AM
according to wikipedia treatment for tendinitis is largely palliative (help cope with symptoms rather than heal).
not to say that he can not come back, but i think it may be delusion to believe that tendinitis is not serious for an athlete.

OrangePower
07-10-2009, 08:41 AM
- Bjorn Borg, 1981 French Open Champion did not defend his title
- Vitas Gerulaitis, 1977 Australian Open Champion did not defend his title
- Andres Gomez, 1990 French Open Champion did not defend his title
- Goran Ivanisevic, 2001 Wimbledon Champion did not defend his title
- Andre Agassi, 2001 Australian Open Champion did not defend his title
- Pete Sampras, 2002 US Open Champion did not defend his title

and many more

It happens, what's the big deal?

The big deal is:

- Bjorn Borg, slams after 1981 French Open = 0
- Vitas Gerulaitis, slams after 1977 Australian Open = 0
- Andres Gomez, slams after 1990 French Open = 0
- Goran Ivanisevic, slams after 2001 Wimbledon = 0
- Andre Agassi, slams after 2001 Australian Open = 1
- Pete Sampras, slams after 2002 US Open = 0

Total slams of the above illustrious players after failing to defend a grand slam title = 1.

So what was your point again? If you're trying to make it look even worse for Rafa, you're succeeding :-)

mandy01
07-10-2009, 08:45 AM
Actually before the Australian Open many were picking him to win. The U.S Open is a much faster surface and he is coming back from an injury, plus Federer, Murray, Del Potro, and Roddick are all stronger now than they were before January. Nadal has made the semis there just like he did at the AO in last year.I'm not saying he's going to certainly win it.But you never count him out.His game has significantly improved.

cknobman
07-10-2009, 08:54 AM
Jumpin the gun a little are we?

Lets see if Nadal can even come back and play decent tennis before we denounce him the USO winner. K?

clayman2000
07-10-2009, 09:01 AM
His tendonitis is a big deal. He pulled out of Wimbledon!!!!!!!


And the Fed example doesn't work. Fed wasn't injured after Wimbledon.


Fool, Nadal pulled out of Wimbledon so he would have a better chance of winning the USO. Look he lost a tight exhibition to Wawrinka, who as we all know pushed Murray to 5 sets. Nadal clearly could have played Wimby. But Nadal knew going far would be tough, and also, him playing there would ruin his USO chances

I guarantee you that if Nadal had never won Wimbledon, he would have played there, and would have probably lost to Hewitt or Stepanek

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-10-2009, 09:06 AM
Jumpin the gun a little are we?

Lets see if Nadal can even come back and play decent tennis before we denounce him the USO winner. K?

Yes,i totally agree,people are getting a little to carried away creating illusions about a player that is not even capable of playing at the moment.

thalivest
07-10-2009, 09:07 AM
I will be happy with the semis this year. Anything more would be a bonus.

JeMar
07-10-2009, 09:10 AM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

So, did he drop out of Wimbledon for S&Gs then?

Ambivalent
07-10-2009, 09:12 AM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

I would mark your words, but that didn't work out so well for maximo.

clayman2000
07-10-2009, 09:15 AM
So, did he drop out of Wimbledon for S&Gs then?

You dont get it do you. Nadal pulled out, because for the first time, he is thinking about the future. He knew that if he played, he would not win, so rather than stress his knees more, he took a break so that by time the USO came hed be healthy enough to win the USO.... the one major he is missing

It sounds like a smart plan to me

Ambivalent
07-10-2009, 09:19 AM
You dont get it do you. Nadal pulled out, because for the first time, he is thinking about the future. He knew that if he played, he would not win, so rather than stress his knees more, he took a break so that by time the USO came hed be healthy enough to win the USO.... the one major he is missing

It sounds like a smart plan to me

It makes it all the more sad when he doesn't win it.

DarthFed
07-10-2009, 09:33 AM
A lot of people here are personal friends with Nadal and are well aware of his plan to skip out on his most coveted GS in favor of the USO...

wait..

maximo
07-10-2009, 09:34 AM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

i would be happy to see Murray or Nadal win the USO.

thalivest
07-10-2009, 09:34 AM
i would be happy to see Murray or Nadal win the USO.

I would be too. Much rather one of them than Federer or Djokovic.

rommil
07-10-2009, 09:35 AM
It makes it all the more sad when he doesn't win it.

It can be sad yet there is no shame in losing to a better player if that's what happens.
It is a bit encouraging to speculate Nadal being smarter with his scheduling if that's really what he is doing. A full force style of play that Nadal does will push everybody around him and that can only mean one thing, better tennis.

clayman2000
07-10-2009, 09:40 AM
It makes it all the more sad when he doesn't win it.

Werent people saying the same thing when Nadal said he wanted to win Wimbledon? And that was before he had ever had sucess on grass

Nadal has had sucess on hard courts, and people dont think he can win.... crazy

jackson vile
07-10-2009, 10:05 AM
Hey yea blind fella. Federer never pulled out of any major in 2008. Nor he was pawned in 4th round.

Because his illnesses/injuries were nothing but excuses.

Nadal fought until his legs could not do the job anymore.

Roger is a woman, if his injuries were serious he would not have been able to play at all.

maximo
07-10-2009, 10:11 AM
.

Roger is a woman, if his injuries were serious he would not have been able to play at all.

Tell that to BreakPoint...

raiden031
07-10-2009, 10:20 AM
Nadal is not a good enough hard court player to win the USO. I don't see it happening, ESPECIALLY because his knees are still recovering and I think his game will drop a little bit due to inactivity.

flyinghippos101
07-10-2009, 10:45 AM
Who's going to bump this thread when Nadal loses at the US Open?

Kare
07-10-2009, 10:51 AM
First of all English is not my first language. I'll do my best to share my opinion. I Think he still has a chance to win it but he has to take care of his knees very very good. I have to disagree with you that tendinitis is not a big deal. Tendinitis is a big deal because lot of patience tend to have it for a long time. Even if they think it is healed someday it will be back. If you keep do the same thing put a lot of stress on joints and tendons, it's impossible to completely be healed from Tendinitis. And some serious damage on joints and tendons are permanent. Tennis is a game of intermittent bouts of high intensity. We have to move quickly and stop quickly a lot. These put so much stress on joints and tendons especially on knees and ankles. In Nadal's case, he must be very hurtful. That's why he pulled out from Wimbledon. I think he is taking a lot of medication like NSAIDs and also think he may has to take steroid injection and other treatment too. I'm studying pharmaceutical science so I hope what I'm studying may be imformative for you guys on this board.

maximo
07-10-2009, 11:08 AM
First of all English is not my first language. I'll do my best to share my opinion. I Think he still has a chance to win it but he has to take care of his knees very very good. I have to disagree with you that tendinitis is not a big deal. Tendinitis is a big deal because lot of patience tend to have it for a long time. Even if they think it is healed someday it will be back. If you keep do the same thing put a lot of stress on joints and tendons, it's impossible to completely be healed from Tendinitis. And some serious damage on joints and tendons are permanent. Tennis is a game of intermittent bouts of high intensity. We have to move quickly and stop quickly a lot. These put so much stress on joints and tendons especially on knees and ankles. In Nadal's case, he must be very hurtful. That's why he pulled out from Wimbledon. I think he is taking a lot of medication like NSAIDs and also think he may has to take steroid injection and other treatment too. I'm studying pharmaceutical science so I hope what I'm studying may be imformative for you guys on this board.


Are you sure it's impossible to be completely healed from even minor Tendinitis?

MichaelNadal
07-10-2009, 11:12 AM
I think its stupid to say Nadal is done like it was stupid to say Federer is done. Nadal will bounce back as well as ever.

Kare
07-10-2009, 11:13 AM
Minor Tendinitis can be completely healed. If you take good care of yourself and take all medications that doctor or pharmacist recomended.

zagor
07-10-2009, 11:14 AM
Because his illnesses/injuries were nothing but excuses.

Nadal fought until his legs could not do the job anymore.

Roger is a woman, if his injuries were serious he would not have been able to play at all.

The guy never retired from the match in his entire career,not once so you're talking nonsense as usual.I'm sure in some of his 800+ matches Fed played through pain/fatigue but he never gave up which is what I respect in an athlete.If Fed is a woman then the rest of the players on tour are little girls.

Rippy
07-10-2009, 11:16 AM
I think its stupid to say Nadal is done like it was stupid to say Federer is done. Nadal will bounce back as well as ever.

Exactly. After AO this year, people were saying Fed would never win another slam, would end the year as number 4. Look what happened.

Now people are writing off Nadal, but I am sure he can come back and win many more slams, perhaps even the US Open this year.

~ZoSo~
07-10-2009, 11:27 AM
Actually before the Australian Open many were picking him to win. The U.S Open is a much faster surface and he is coming back from an injury, plus Federer, Murray, Del Potro, and Roddick are all stronger now than they were before January.

Didnt the olympics have the same surface as us open?

Blinkism
07-10-2009, 11:30 AM
wrong.

from wikipedia:

The 2001 Wimbledon title was the last of Ivanišević's career. He temporarily retired later in 2001 due to shoulder surgery. He returned to tennis in 2004 but retired permanently after a third-round loss to Lleyton Hewitt at Wimbledon, held on the Centre Court, the scene of his greatest triumph.

Really? I guess he was really retired when he played all of these tournaments after Wimbledon:

2001 Cincinnati Masters (3rd Round)
2001 Indianapolis (Semifinals)
2001 Long Island (1st Round)
2001 US Open (3rd Round)
2001 Davis Cup World Group Play-offs
2001 Vienna (1st Round)
2001 Stuttgart Masters (3rd Round)
2001 St.Petersburg (Quarterfinals)
2001 Paris Masters (2nd Round)
2001 Masters Cup (Round Robin)
2002 Doha (2nd Round)
2002 Auckland (Quarterfinals)
2002 Australian Open (2nd Round)
2002 Milan (1st Round)
2002 Davis Cup 1st Round
2002 Rotterdam (1st Round)
2002 Dubai (1st Round)
2002 Miami Masters (2nd Round)
2003 Heilbronn (2nd Round)
2003 Dubai (1st Round)
2003 Indian Wells Masters (1st Round)
2003 Queen's Club (1st Round)
2004 Milan (2nd Round)
2004 Rotterdam (1st Round)
2004 Marseille (1st Round)
2004 Miami Masters (2nd Round)
2004 Estoril (1st Round)
2004 Monte Carlo Masters (1st Round)
2004 Munich (1st Round)
2004 Rome Masters (1st Round)
2004 Queen's Club (1st Round)
2004 Wimbledon (3rd Round)

Yeah, I thought so.

CCNM
07-10-2009, 11:37 AM
If Rafa gets to the finals I hope he & his opponent play the full 5 sets & go into however many tiebreaks to set an all time ATP record.:)

backhand winner
07-10-2009, 11:41 AM
Nadal will not win US Open 2009. Please be reasonable with your predictions. I'm starting to doubt that we'll ever see the same Nadal again. Tendinitis can be very serious. There is such thing as Chronic tendinitis. Look it up.

maximo
07-10-2009, 11:43 AM
Minor Tendinitis can be completely healed. If you take good care of yourself and take all medications that doctor or pharmacist recomended.

I see...

I have minor Tendinitis and it's quite frustrating at times...

Ambivalent
07-10-2009, 11:46 AM
Really? I guess he was really retired when he played all of these tournaments after Wimbledon:

2001 Cincinnati Masters (3rd Round)
2001 Indianapolis (Semifinals)
2001 Long Island (1st Round)
2001 US Open (3rd Round)
2001 Davis Cup World Group Play-offs
2001 Vienna (1st Round)
2001 Stuttgart Masters (3rd Round)
2001 St.Petersburg (Quarterfinals)
2001 Paris Masters (2nd Round)
2001 Masters Cup (Round Robin)
2002 Doha (2nd Round)
2002 Auckland (Quarterfinals)
2002 Australian Open (2nd Round)
2002 Milan (1st Round)
2002 Davis Cup 1st Round
2002 Rotterdam (1st Round)
2002 Dubai (1st Round)
2002 Miami Masters (2nd Round)
2003 Heilbronn (2nd Round)
2003 Dubai (1st Round)
2003 Indian Wells Masters (1st Round)
2003 Queen's Club (1st Round)
2004 Milan (2nd Round)
2004 Rotterdam (1st Round)
2004 Marseille (1st Round)
2004 Miami Masters (2nd Round)
2004 Estoril (1st Round)
2004 Monte Carlo Masters (1st Round)
2004 Munich (1st Round)
2004 Rome Masters (1st Round)
2004 Queen's Club (1st Round)
2004 Wimbledon (3rd Round)

Yeah, I thought so.


Wow, he sure did well in them.

ninman
07-10-2009, 01:06 PM
If Rafa gets to the finals I hope he & his opponent play the full 5 sets & go into however many tiebreaks to set an all time ATP record.:)

The one thing that's always bothered me about the US Open is that they are the only GS to have final set tiebreakers. Imagine if Wimbledon had final set tiebreakers, we may have missed two amazing five setters in 2008 and 2009.

Nadalfan89
07-10-2009, 01:54 PM
Nadal will not win US Open 2009. Please be reasonable with your predictions. I'm starting to doubt that we'll ever see the same Nadal again. Tendinitis can be very serious. There is such thing as Chronic tendinitis. Look it up.

Considering he's won tournements on the exact same surface as the USO before, and made it to the semi-finals of the USO, it's not that big of a stretch.

ninman
07-10-2009, 02:14 PM
Considering he's won tournements on the exact same surface as the USO before, and made it to the semi-finals of the USO, it's not that big of a stretch.

It's definitely a possibility. He won the Australian this year, but it really depends on how good his knees are, also he has a lot of threats at the US Open, if he can dodge most of them then that will help a lot.

Madhoshi22
07-10-2009, 02:18 PM
Are you sure it's impossible to be completely healed from even minor Tendinitis?

Very minor tendonitis, can be healed completely. However, in Rafa's case, it seems to be that he has played through it for a while, and that's a big mistake. It depends on how inflamed and damaged his tendons have gotten. The more you play on with tendonitis, the more abrasion takes away layers of the tendon.

I'm a trauma surgeon, so this is all speculation, without an MRI, I can't make a concise judgement as to how bad his knees actually are.

ninman
07-10-2009, 02:20 PM
Very minor tendonitis, can be healed completely. However, in Rafa's case, it seems to be that he has played through it for a while, and that's a big mistake. It depends on how inflamed and damaged his tendons have gotten. The more you play on with tendonitis, the more abrasion takes away layers of the tendon.

I'm a trauma surgeon, so this is all speculation, without an MRI, I can't make a concise judgement as to how bad his knees actually are.

But one would imagine that it isn't minor if it caused him to skip Wimbledon right?

Madhoshi22
07-10-2009, 02:24 PM
But one would imagine that it isn't minor if it caused him to skip Wimbledon right?

Yes, one can assume that, especially since he stated that he's played through knee pain in the past, I'm assuming that those were the onsets to this bout of tendonitis. If he had to take it easy back then (assuming those were caused by tendonitis as well), his knees could have been treated, and possibly better today.

zagor
07-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Nadal will not win US Open 2009. Please be reasonable with your predictions. I'm starting to doubt that we'll ever see the same Nadal again. Tendinitis can be very serious. There is such thing as Chronic tendinitis. Look it up.

Well the guy was in SF last year,it's not like he said Vince Spadea's gonna win the whole thing.

I'd say it's possible although he wouldn't be first favourite for the title on my list.

ninman
07-10-2009, 02:28 PM
Yes, one can assume that, especially since he stated that he's played through knee pain in the past, I'm assuming that those were the onsets to this bout of tendonitis. If he had to take it easy back then (assuming those were caused by tendonitis as well), his knees could have been treated, and possibly better today.

My brother told me he thinks Nadal will take the rest of the year off, what do you think the chances of that are?

ChuDat
07-10-2009, 02:29 PM
Anything can happen, I never expected Nadal to lose at French nor did I expect Roddick to make the finals at wimbledon and take Federer to a 5-setter. There may be some big upsets at the USO, even Federer might get shocked.

ninman
07-10-2009, 02:29 PM
Well the guy was in SF last year,it's not like he said Vince Spadea's gonna win the whole thing.

I'd say it's possible although he wouldn't be first favourite for the title on my list.

Lol, it's funny, he's saying "be reasonable" when somebody is predicting a 6-time grand slam champion will win the US Open.

ninman
07-10-2009, 02:31 PM
Anything can happen, I never expected Nadal to lose at French nor did I expect Roddick to make the finals at wimbledon and take Federer to a 5-setter. There may be some big upsets at the USO, even Federer might get shocked.

Yeah, that 21 major semi's streak has to end sooner or later. So there's every possibility that someone might take him out. Especially all the 4th round five setters he had to play recently.

All-rounder
07-10-2009, 02:31 PM
Anything can happen, I never expected Nadal to lose at French nor did I expect Roddick to make the finals at wimbledon and take Federer to a 5-setter. There may be some big upsets at the USO, even Federer might get shocked.
Federer getting an upset at us open isn't that much of a surprise because before it was do or die as he was chasing history now federer is leading history

King_roger
07-10-2009, 02:32 PM
Nadal wins USO 2009

yeah, I agree



but which draw? :|
http://www.charlespetzold.com/blog/2006/09/Wheelchair.jpg

ChuDat
07-10-2009, 02:51 PM
Federer getting an upset at us open isn't that much of a surprise because before it was do or die as he was chasing history now federer is leading history
It might be a surprise to the big Federer fans.

Madhoshi22
07-10-2009, 03:24 PM
My brother told me he thinks Nadal will take the rest of the year off, what do you think the chances of that are?

Again, given the fact that I don't have his MRI's in front of me, I can't say for sure. But based on all the news that is available, that would be the prudent thing to do. I'm not saying this as a Fed fan or whatever, I'm saying this purely from a medical point of view. His ligaments and tendons need rest, and the HC season isn't going to provide any such thing. He's probably on a lot of anti-inflammatories, which in and of themselves can have various side effects interfering with his game.
In my opinion, give his knees the rest of the year off, work on strengthening the tendons and ligaments, and come back at 200% for the AO. He's only 23, he's not lost time at all.

I guess we'll see at the USO tune-ups though.

BallzofSkill
07-10-2009, 03:50 PM
It might be a surprise to the big Federer fans.

actually the biggest fed fans seem to have a balanced perspective on his chances at the slams.

ciaomanhattan
07-10-2009, 04:44 PM
look if Rafa manages to get to the final of the US Open, I'm betting now that he'll win the slam. but that's only if he actually makes it to the last day and no one can predict whether he will or not.

but I do hope he's healthy enough to play and play well. as someone who grew up going to the US Open almost every year, Nadal definitely makes the tournament more interesting and fun.

btw, my first post ever on here. sup tennis fans 8-)

veroniquem
07-10-2009, 04:53 PM
I'll be happy enough to have him playing again, I'll take whatever results he gets in stride. I just want him back very badly!

Serendipitous
07-10-2009, 04:57 PM
I'll be happy enough to have him playing again, I'll take whatever results he gets in stride. I just want him back very badly!


Are you going to the US Open this year?

Serendipitous
07-10-2009, 04:58 PM
look if Rafa manages to get to the final of the US Open, I'm betting now that he'll win the slam. but that's only if he actually makes it to the last day and no one can predict whether he will or not.

but I do hope he's healthy enough to play and play well. as someone who grew up going to the US Open almost every year, Nadal definitely makes the tournament more interesting and fun.

btw, my first post ever on here. sup tennis fans 8-)


Hello and welcome to Talk Tennis!


I hope you have a fun time!

jackson vile
07-11-2009, 10:12 AM
yeah, I agree



but which draw? :|
http://www.charlespetzold.com/blog/2006/09/Wheelchair.jpg

You're kidding me, you're making fun of people in wheel chairs??? That's a **** for you

jackson vile
07-11-2009, 10:17 AM
The guy never retired from the match in his entire career,not once so you're talking nonsense as usual.I'm sure in some of his 800+ matches Fed played through pain/fatigue but he never gave up which is what I respect in an athlete.If Fed is a woman then the rest of the players on tour are little girls.

No Roger has never ever had any serious injury or illnesses, just pretend excuses.

Nadal played his heart out until he litterally could play no more, and never once made excuses.

That is a real man!

You don't have an injury until you can't play anymore, that is a real injury.

jackson vile
07-11-2009, 10:18 AM
Didnt the olympics have the same surface as us open?

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Serve_Ace
07-11-2009, 10:19 AM
No Roger has never ever had any serious injury or illnesses, just pretend excuses.

Nadal played his heart out until he litterally could play no more, and never once made excuses.

That is a real man!

You don't have an injury until you can't play anymore, that is a real injury.

No, that's just plain stupid.

Rippy
07-11-2009, 10:19 AM
You're kidding me, you're making fun of people in wheel chairs??? That's a **** for you

He didn't make fun of them at all. He posted a picture.

Mansewerz
07-11-2009, 10:24 AM
No Roger has never ever had any serious injury or illnesses, just pretend excuses.

Nadal played his heart out until he litterally could play no more, and never once made excuses.

That is a real man!

You don't have an injury until you can't play anymore, that is a real injury.

Tell that to TheNatural, who claims that Nadal should've won Wimbledon 2007 if not for a knee injury.

Also, tell that to all the people saying Nadal was injured in the French when he lost to Soderling.

King_roger
07-11-2009, 12:48 PM
You're kidding me, you're making fun of people in wheel chairs??? That's a **** for you
He didn't make fun of them at all. He posted a picture.

exactly, and I don’t want to make fun of people who have to be in a wheelchair. Not at all
this was just my assessment about Rafas chances at the USO 09… :|

VivalaVida
07-11-2009, 12:57 PM
No Roger has never ever had any serious injury or illnesses, just pretend excuses.

Nadal played his heart out until he litterally could play no more, and never once made excuses.

That is a real man!

You don't have an injury until you can't play anymore, that is a real injury.
That is what you call complete ******* biased BS.

zagor
07-11-2009, 01:10 PM
No Roger has never ever had any serious injury or illnesses, just pretend excuses.

Nadal played his heart out until he litterally could play no more, and never once made excuses.

That is a real man!

You don't have an injury until you can't play anymore, that is a real injury.

LOL,there's no talking sense with you is there?

No pro can go throught 800+ matches without suffering some injury/fatique/pain etc. Most of the pros play through some naggling injury or the other all the time,they are all rarely 100%.No matter what people think tennis is a hard sport on the body,especially in today's slower condtions and grueling schedule.

However in spite of all that,Fed never once retired in a match,each time he stepped on court he played untill the end.That coupled with the fact that he reached 21 consecutive SF in most demanding tennis tourneys(slams) speaks volumes of his ability to play through any sort of physical adversity,his fitness and the amount of hard work he puts off court.

But don't mind common sense,continue with your blind fanboyism.

malakas
07-11-2009, 01:27 PM
what a stupid thread this is.

Serendipitous
07-11-2009, 01:43 PM
what a stupid thread this is.


Really? :cry:

malakas
07-11-2009, 01:51 PM
Really? :cry:

you disagree?? :cry: :cry: :cry:

joeri888
07-11-2009, 01:54 PM
No Roger has never ever had any serious injury or illnesses, just pretend excuses.

Nadal played his heart out until he litterally could play no more, and never once made excuses.

That is a real man!

You don't have an injury until you can't play anymore, that is a real injury.

I'd take a smart normal man over the toughest idiot in the world any day.

Tennislover26
07-11-2009, 03:07 PM
Nadal will play a less taxing schedule from now on
and will focus on the slams. That is what I read
a few days ago. Don't have the article, sorry.

I think it is a smart move. The guy plays so many
matches on clay because he almost wins them all.

After a while you just lose focus, passion etc..
Don't forget this guy won RG, Wimbledon and the
Olympics last year. He won so much. It's easy
to lose the focus, drive.

He has some physical problems combined with
mental problems.

I am certain he will come back stronger than
ever(mentally) and because he will play less matches
in the future, he will be better prepared for the slams.

If his knee problems are mild, I am certain he will win
at least 5 more slams, probably 7-8 more.

cork_screw
07-11-2009, 04:10 PM
If it's not a big deal why did he withdraw from one of the biggest slam events of the year? How did he lose to a top 20 player at his best surface. I like Nadal, but all i'm saying is with all his heart and determination, if he think he can't play a major and gambles with the #1 ranking knowing that fed was (at that time) favored to win next to himself, then it must be a bigger issue than what he tells the press. And that just doesn't go away. A tennis coach of mine needed to retire from tennis when he got tendonitis in his wrist. It's a very painful and serious condition. Nadal's got a lot of heart but without his legs that's taken a huge chunk out of his game.

Nadalfan89
07-11-2009, 04:18 PM
what a stupid thread this is.

Nothing stupid about this thread...I think any Nadal thread that doesn't imply that Nadal will never do well again upsets you.

AREYOUOUTOFYOURVULCANMIND
07-11-2009, 04:33 PM
Nothing stupid about this thread...I think any Nadal thread that doesn't imply that Nadal will never do well again upsets you.

I think any Nadal thread that does imply that Nadal will never do well again upsets you, hence your obsessive need to make a thread filled with wishful thinking.

ChuDat
07-11-2009, 05:33 PM
Federer might step his game up at the USO cause it's the only GS where his streak hasn't been broken and I doubt he'd want to lose that.

LuxilonTimo
07-11-2009, 05:36 PM
Another fail assumption. Are you won of the idiots who actually thought Murray was gonna win wimbledon? No your wrong Federer is gonna win. nadal wont even make it to the finals.
Mark my words.

JeMar
07-11-2009, 07:01 PM
Words: marked.

malakas
07-12-2009, 01:52 AM
Nothing stupid about this thread...I think any Nadal thread that doesn't imply that Nadal will never do well again upsets you.

ehmm..no.Any thread that is stupid upsets me.:)

jackson vile
07-12-2009, 11:43 AM
However in spite of all that,Fed never once retired in a match,each time he stepped on court he played untill the end.That coupled with the fact that he reached 21 consecutive SF in most demanding tennis tourneys(slams) speaks volumes of his ability to play through any sort of physical adversity,his fitness and the amount of hard work he puts off court.

But don't mind common sense,continue with your blind fanboyism.

Common sense, really.

It is strange logic for the ****s, they think it is ok for Roger to cop-out and say I lost because of some injuries i.e. spider bite, mono:roll:
, and then when he continued to lose later said "oh yea my back was bad then"

So I find it strange that every time Roger lost Roger he himself had an excuse for each and every loss.

Nadal never ever ever once made excuses, he said when he was beat it was because the other player was bettter.........
PERIOD!

You ****s sit here making fun of handy capped people, make me sick!

And as for a fan boy, if you ****s could pull your head out your @$$ and look at my post I stood by Roger Federer when he continued losing and losing all while his fickle fans flaked out, I supported him, I backed him and wanted him back as tennis needs him just like tennis needs Nadal.

Grow up and learn to be balanced, Roger = amazing tennis/gross personality just like his fans.

All-rounder
07-12-2009, 11:50 AM
^^^^

Federer does make excuses but he doesn't fake injuries his back problem and his mono were real you can see it in him at the AO 08 he was sweating a lot (which you don't see from federer) he started to lose weight and he had bruises on his face.

As for nadal I don't see him as innocent as some people make him out to be

zagor
07-12-2009, 11:54 AM
they think it is ok for Roger to cop-out .

He never did that,not once in his career,each match he finished until the end.The rest of your post is just too much of the usual-everything Fed says is a lie while Nadal's ***** doesn't stink so I'll prefer not to answer as it's kinda pointless.Carry on.

OddJack
07-12-2009, 12:04 PM
Common sense, really.

It is strange logic for the ****s, they think it is ok for Roger to cop-out and say I lost because of some injuries i.e. spider bite, mono:roll:
, and then when he continued to lose later said "oh yea my back was bad then"

So I find it strange that every time Roger lost Roger he himself had an excuse for each and every loss.

Nadal never ever ever once made excuses, he said when he was beat it was because the other player was bettter.........
PERIOD!

You ****s sit here making fun of handy capped people, make me sick!

And as for a fan boy, if you ****s could pull your head out your @$$ and look at my post I stood by Roger Federer when he continued losing and losing all while his fickle fans flaked out, I supported him, I backed him and wanted him back as tennis needs him just like tennis needs Nadal.

Grow up and learn to be balanced, Roger = amazing tennis/gross personality just like his fans.

pile of Red ***** you have accumulated here

Roger has been on tour twice as long as the pirate and has less or no retirements.


" I sent too many short balls"

" I made it easy for him"

sound familar?

zagor
07-12-2009, 12:10 PM
pile of Red ***** you have accumulated here

Roger has been on tour twice as long as the pirate and has less or no retirements.


" I sent too many short balls"

" I made it easy for him"

sound familar?

Don't forge-"It was an amazing disaster" and "I played terrible all the time" or after AO 2007 thrasing by Gonzo "I had pain everywhere,even in my famous ***** and I wasn't 100%"

World Beater
07-12-2009, 01:24 PM
nadal is player who thrives on matchplay..the more matches he plays, his form, confidence etc improves. it is rare he plays his top level and starts winning tournaments right after a long layoff.

nadal is capable of winning but its a long shot esp since coming off injuries with few matches on his worst surface.

World Beater
07-12-2009, 01:26 PM
pile of Red ***** you have accumulated here

Roger has been on tour twice as long as the pirate and has less or no retirements.


" I sent too many short balls"

" I made it easy for him"

sound familar?

what abt the fact the crowd was against him at rg?

or when berdych was a bad man

or when nadal made a pile of excuses reg. his blisters - his loss to ferrero.

zagor
07-12-2009, 01:41 PM
what abt the fact the crowd was against him at rg?

or when berdych was a bad man

or when nadal made a pile of excuses reg. his blisters - his loss to ferrero.

Actually Nadal also said Berdych is stupid which is kind of a direct insult to a fellow player.

Q. I need to go back to the subject that we talked about before. Don't you think you may have made a slight error when you shook hands with him and on TV you said he was an *****hole?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, I didn't say that. Maybe you heard me wrong. I said he was stupid. That's a little bit less disrespectful.
No, in my opinion it hasn't been an error. In you're saying it's been an error, I respect you.

http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=39673

I don't even mind that he said it,no player is faultless and after a dissapointing defeat many of them say stupid things,I personally still think Nadal is overall one of the nicer guys on tour.But what bothers me is people claiming Nadal is a perfect while Fed is worst human being ever to step on a tennis court,the double standards are just a bit ridiculous.

veroniquem
07-12-2009, 02:28 PM
I think any Nadal thread that does imply that Nadal will never do well again upsets you, hence your obsessive need to make a thread filled with wishful thinking.
You're the one indulging in wishful thinking if you think a few weeks break to treat his tendonitis is gonna prevent Nadal from playing his best tennis again once he comes back.

VetoRight
07-12-2009, 03:35 PM
The only player that Nadal should watch specifically in his comeback is the New Roddick.
The other three Federer, Murray n Djokovic are the same players that Nadal used to beat everyday b4 his injury.

Blinkism
07-12-2009, 04:40 PM
The only player that Nadal should watch specifically in his comeback is the New Roddick.
The other three Federer, Murray n Djokovic are the same players that Nadal used to beat everyday b4 his injury.

Assuming Nadal can get his pre-Madrid form (specifically his Australian Open or Indian Wells form) back in time for the US Open, I agree with this.

Maybe Fed is playing more confident and Djokovic less confident, but I don't see Nadal having to change his approach to their games if he's back to 100%.

Roddick's a wildcard, though, like you said- if he has another run like he did at Wimbledon.

veroniquem
07-12-2009, 05:23 PM
Completely premature thread. Right now we don't even know for sure if he'll play the USO and if he'll be 100%. Let's wait until we see him hit a few balls before we make such definite judgements.

AREYOUOUTOFYOURVULCANMIND
07-12-2009, 11:11 PM
You're the one indulging in wishful thinking if you think a few weeks break to treat his tendonitis is gonna prevent Nadal from playing his best tennis again once he comes back.

I never said such a thing or wished for such a thought. I was just stating that you claiming his victory at the 2009 US Open seemed a bit premature. Are you always this defensive?

AREYOUOUTOFYOURVULCANMIND
07-12-2009, 11:17 PM
I never said such a thing or wished for such a thought. I was just stating that you claiming his victory at the 2009 US Open seemed a bit premature. Are you always this defensive?

Err, mixed you up with the OP. Sorry about that. Either way, I stand by the first sentence! The last two should be disregarded.

coloskier
07-13-2009, 05:22 AM
This board is acting like Nadal got his legs amputated or something. He has TENDONITIS; it's really not a big deal. Saying he isn't going to win another slam is ridiculous. After Federer's less that stellar 2008, people were saying he was finished. We all know they were wrong on that one; now the fickle masses are going to be put in their place again once Nadal is at 10 GS and counting.

Nadal wins USO 2009, mark my words.

It is a really big deal. You don't get over tendonitis in 6 weeks, you just get a little less pain. All it takes for him to be back on the shelf is another long match on hard courts. Now, if he was taking 3 months off, it would be a little different. By then the swelling has had time to subside, the knee can start to heal a little bit, and then you can get it scoped to get all the torn fibers and meniscus cleaned up.

jackson vile
07-16-2009, 10:05 AM
He never did that,not once in his career,each match he finished until the end.The rest of your post is just too much of the usual-everything Fed says is a lie while Nadal's ***** doesn't stink so I'll prefer not to answer as it's kinda pointless.Carry on.

You guys are plain nuts, I credit Roger all the time and you guys to Nadal ..........

Roger cops-out, that is a fact, ie I lost cause I have mono, I lost cause Murray pushes the ball around, oh wait my back was injured the whole time.

And you are telling me that is not a cop-out????

Nadal never makes excuses, he says he lost fair and square. He analyzes and says I sucked at this and that and I need to get my sh## together other wise I will continue to lose.

Now that is a man!

Like I say Roger has amazing tennis but his personality is plain disgusting.

deltox
07-16-2009, 10:31 AM
It is a really big deal. You don't get over tendonitis in 6 weeks, you just get a little less pain. All it takes for him to be back on the shelf is another long match on hard courts. Now, if he was taking 3 months off, it would be a little different. By then the swelling has had time to subside, the knee can start to heal a little bit, and then you can get it scoped to get all the torn fibers and meniscus cleaned up.

this is correct

tendonitis isnt something that just magically heals. every time it flares up it forms more and more scar tissue, until the knee surgery is required to remove the messed up stuff in there and restart the process. it never goes away and it never doesnt hurt, there is just varying degrees of the pain felt during movement.

you might prolong the surgeries by adding in cortozone shots a few times between each surgery

ibuprofen 800mg 3 times a day for life =)

mandy01
07-16-2009, 10:48 AM
You guys are plain nuts, I credit Roger all the time and you guys to Nadal ..........

Roger cops-out, that is a fact, ie I lost cause I have mono, I lost cause Murray pushes the ball around, oh wait my back was injured the whole time.

And you are telling me that is not a cop-out????

Nadal never makes excuses, he says he lost fair and square. He analyzes and says I sucked at this and that and I need to get my sh## together other wise I will continue to lose.

Now that is a man!

Like I say Roger has amazing tennis but his personality is plain disgusting.
Ha.Ha.Ha.Bull.Like zagor said..carry on the nonsensical drivel..its hilarious :lol:

TheFifthSet
07-16-2009, 11:09 AM
You guys are plain nuts, I credit Roger all the time and you guys to Nadal ..........

Roger cops-out, that is a fact, ie I lost cause I have mono, I lost cause Murray pushes the ball around, oh wait my back was injured the whole time.

And you are telling me that is not a cop-out????

Nadal never makes excuses, he says he lost fair and square. He analyzes and says I sucked at this and that and I need to get my sh## together other wise I will continue to lose.

Now that is a man!

Like I say Roger has amazing tennis but his personality is plain disgusting.

Nadal claimed he was injured after he got pummelled by Gonzo in '07. Few people called him on it. Conversely, Fed says something about his back injury and all of a sudden we have a pack of anti-Fed/Murray fans lamenting and *****ing about it.

Nadal also gave very little credit to Soderling after his shocking FO loss. Face it, you're arguing semantics. Somehow their interview mannerisms are worlds apart.

It's easy to find flaws when you're looking for them. Federer is one of the most micro-analyzed athletes in the world. Glossing over hundreds upon hundreds of interviews, it's not difficult to find a few and idealize them in order to make Federer look like an *****.

As for Fed's suppossed excuse-making: regarding the whole back injury fiasco, take it with a pinch of salt. Federer has called Murray his toughest opponent, and has on many occasions praised his game. Besides, it's not as if this back thing came out of the blue. He was simply saying that people shouldn't put so much stock in a few losses when he arguably wasn't in his best condition. Does that statement radiate with arrogance??

Mono . . . I dunno. I myself can't recall him personally ever using mono as a direct excuse for his losses . . . a lot of Fed fans have taken refuge in mono as an alibi for his poor (for his standards) performance in '08. But Federer?