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OddJack
07-12-2009, 09:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrCnX_xOTvY

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 12:09 AM
Rio Ferdinand what a muppet.

maximo
07-13-2009, 12:18 AM
Roger Federer = Greatest Snob Of All Time.

lawrence
07-13-2009, 12:28 AM
how arrogant of federer to be interviewd

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 12:52 AM
Roger Federer = Greatest Snob Of All Time.
Yes, what a "snob" for donating his money to educate poor children in Africa! How dare he! :roll:

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 01:25 AM
Yes, what a "snob" for donating his money to educate poor children in Africa! How dare he! :roll:

Every top athlete dominates money to the poor why because they can afford it and it helps there image which we all know Federer is obsessed about.

IvanAndreevich
07-13-2009, 01:40 AM
Every top athlete dominates money to the poor why because they can afford it and it helps there image which we all know Federer is obsessed about.

So you think Federer runs his foundation as a PR job and he doesn't actually believe in helping people?

maximo
07-13-2009, 01:42 AM
Yes, what a "snob" for donating his money to educate poor children in Africa! How dare he! :roll:

Would he have done that if he had an average job?

ramseszerg
07-13-2009, 01:56 AM
Would he have done that if he had an average job?

Thanks, you're helping me understand why this section is full of personal attacks.

TheFifthSet
07-13-2009, 01:59 AM
Would he have done that if he had an average job?

how do you know whether he would or wouldn't, ruprecht?

what in this video gave your the impression that federer was a snob? i'm not talking in general. i would like to know what in this video fueled your fire. because i'm starting to think that you simply repeat the same thing about federer, murray etc. no matter what the topic is.

provide a specific example of what in this video irked you.

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 02:11 AM
So you think Federer runs his foundation as a PR job and he doesn't actually believe in helping people?

Both he wants to help South Africa because his mother comes from there and it also helps his PR.

Speranza
07-13-2009, 02:14 AM
Would he have done that if he had an average job?

Hey Maximo - still haven't kissed a girl yet then? :)

bizarre_opinion
07-13-2009, 02:37 AM
boy do i hate camel lips and man u. interview made me sick too.

Speranza
07-13-2009, 02:40 AM
Which bit particularly, the bit re. his RF Foundation, or the Ferdinand drooling over the kit.....? The latter I'd agree with, if he really was texting his friend about the kit and where to get it, then all I can say to that is, er, oh dear...

lawrence
07-13-2009, 03:07 AM
Would he have done that if he had an average job?

would he have worn that "snobbish jacket" if he had an average job?

better question
would murray have won wimbledon if fed had an average job?

wait nevermind, i already know the answer to that one. LOL

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-13-2009, 03:08 AM
Every top athlete dominates money to the poor why because they can afford it and it helps there image which we all know Federer is obsessed about.
That`s not really fair...he might actually care about the situation with the children in South-Africa,his mother is south-african.

Fedex
07-13-2009, 04:18 AM
Yes, what a "snob" for donating his money to educate poor children in Africa! How dare he! :roll:

So you think Federer runs his foundation as a PR job and he doesn't actually believe in helping people?

how arrogant of federer to be interviewd

I think Federer's problem is his personality and delivery. To some of us he sounds pretentious, insincere and cheesy. (Not just based on Wimby 2009 but from forming opinions over the years)
Some people don't see this and think he's charming and lovely.
He might be a totally genuine guy. Heart of gold and all.
None of us really know his true nature. We can only guess and go with our instincts based on our own experiences and make comparisons with people that we have already met and know.
Anyone who really claims to know this guy and say he is either a genuine great guy or arrogant and self obsessed are themselves being in danger of looking arrogant.
My instincts say that he is self obsessed and pretentious but I would be glad to be proven wrong.
My girlfriend is a clinical pyschologist and I asked her opinion of RF. She said she couldn't make a proper formulation of anyone without interviewing them in person and asking many very specific questions.
She also had a dig at us forum users as to why we idolise and despise people that we don't even know, and to think about getting a life.

defrule
07-13-2009, 04:28 AM
Quite a fashion guy isn't he.

lawrence
07-13-2009, 04:38 AM
I think Federer's problem is his personality and delivery. To some of us he sounds pretentious, insincere and cheesy. (Not just based on Wimby 2009 but from forming opinions over the years)
Some people don't see this and think he's charming and lovely.
He might be a totally genuine guy. Heart of gold and all.
None of us really know his true nature. We can only guess and go with our instincts based on our own experiences and make comparisons with people that we have already met and know.
Anyone who really claims to know this guy and say he is either a genuine great guy or arrogant and self obsessed are themselves being in danger of looking arrogant.
My instincts say that he is self obsessed and pretentious but I would be glad to be proven wrong.
My girlfriend is a clinical pyschologist and I asked her opinion of RF. She said she couldn't make a proper formulation of anyone without interviewing them in person and asking many very specific questions.
She also had a dig at us forum users as to why we idolise and despise people that we don't even know, and to think about getting a life.

My instincts (and personal experience from having done this myself at some point or another) say that you thought this yourself, but in order to refrain from possible bickering you chose to use your girlfriend as a method of delivering the words, knowing that the majority of the posters here wouldn't make the effort to argue back considering she doesn't post here herself - making the argument pointless.

I could be wrong though ;p

Duzza
07-13-2009, 04:39 AM
Would he have done that if he had an average job?

Would you have done that with an average job? I sure wouldn't...but if I was earning big millions every year of course I would be a philanthropist of some type....I don't get what your getting at here.

hate machine
07-13-2009, 04:43 AM
rio ferdinand doesn't even know how to speak properly

Fedex
07-13-2009, 04:57 AM
My instincts (and personal experience from having done this myself at some point or another) say that you thought this yourself, but in order to refrain from possible bickering you chose to use your girlfriend as a method of delivering the words, knowing that the majority of the posters here wouldn't make the effort to argue back considering she doesn't post here herself - making the argument pointless.

I could be wrong though ;p

Maybe I'm just projecting.
I'll try to get her on here. It would be interesting.

Fedex
07-13-2009, 05:04 AM
And Lawrence, would you like to comment on the rest of my post, which was the main point, rather than just the last incidental sentence.

120mphBodyServe
07-13-2009, 05:12 AM
Hey if i were a pro player i'd donate money to charity as well.
It's just the right thing to do... It's got nothing to do with image or PR or any of that crap...
Grow up people...

rod99
07-13-2009, 05:41 AM
Roger Federer = Greatest Snob Of All Time.

Michael Jackson - greatest freak show of all time
Al Sharpton - greatest clown of all time

DarthMaul
07-13-2009, 05:42 AM
boy do i hate camel lips and man u. interview made me sick too.

Bizarre opinion inded. Ahem...

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 05:50 AM
Bizarre opinion inded. Ahem...

He's right Ferdinand is camel lipped twat.

lawrence
07-13-2009, 06:05 AM
And Lawrence, would you like to comment on the rest of my post, which was the main point, rather than just the last incidental sentence.

sure

I think Federer's problem is his personality and delivery. To some of us he sounds pretentious, insincere and cheesy. (Not just based on Wimby 2009 but from forming opinions over the years)
Some people don't see this and think he's charming and lovely.
He might be a totally genuine guy. Heart of gold and all.
None of us really know his true nature. We can only guess and go with our instincts based on our own experiences and make comparisons with people that we have already met and know.
Anyone who really claims to know this guy and say he is either a genuine great guy or arrogant and self obsessed are themselves being in danger of looking arrogant.
agree 100%
My instincts say that he is self obsessed and pretentious but I would be glad to be proven wrong.
As you said above, its really your own opinion.. So im not going to say you're wrong here, because there is no wrong.
In my personal opinion though - from what i've seen anyway; I'd guess that tennis is his #1 priority, though all the exposure/endorsements etc. are something Nike has dropped onto him, he's really loving it. But then again, wouldn't we all love it? Being the face of tennis, arguably the most popular sporting brand in the world, and basically having your OWN brand stem from that. I would love to be able to walk around and see people wearing my logo.
My girlfriend is a clinical pyschologist and I asked her opinion of RF. She said she couldn't make a proper formulation of anyone without interviewing them in person and asking many very specific questions.
Also agree, to some extent.. Some people are just hard to read, while some others may show extremely blatant motives. Really depends on who it is.
In rogers case he's extremely publicized and has a ton of pressure on his shoulders because the journos are eying out his every word, so it really is harder to find out how he is off camera.
But apparently the tour all like him, he displays humble attitude on court for the majority of the time (doesn't scream BOOYA at UE's, doesn't pick fights with umpires, doesn't waste time between points, etc).
Also, although he has his fame, wealth and decent looks (no h.omo), he has Mirka for a wife - someone he probably believes would make a good mother and be a supporting wife - as opposed to a supermodel he could've easily picked out.
So, from what I can see in the media, matches, his life in general, etc. he seems like a decent guy, for real. Until I see otherwise that's just what I'm going to continue believing.

rommil
07-13-2009, 06:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrCnX_xOTvY

Rio should have said "Roger, are you sure they made this for you because for a minute there I thought they made it for me".

rommil
07-13-2009, 06:25 AM
Roger Federer = Greatest Snob Of All Time.

With a self esteem like yours, everybody's a snob.

Fedex
07-13-2009, 06:38 AM
Quote from Lawrence
"Also agree, to some extent.. Some people are just hard to read, while some others may show extremely blatant motives. Really depends on who it is.
In rogers case he's extremely publicized and has a ton of pressure on his shoulders because the journos are eying out his every word, so it really is harder to find out how he is off camera.
But apparently the tour all like him, he displays humble attitude on court for the majority of the time (doesn't scream BOOYA at UE's, doesn't pick fights with umpires, doesn't waste time between points, etc).
Also, although he has his fame, wealth and decent looks (no h.omo), he has Mirka for a wife - someone he probably believes would make a good mother and be a supporting wife - as opposed to a supermodel he could've easily picked out.
So, from what I can see in the media, matches, his life in general, etc. he seems like a decent guy, for real. Until I see otherwise that's just what I'm going to continue believing."

Thanks for taking the time to reply Lawrence.
I admit my views of Federer are mellowing after doing more research - reading articles, posts and looking at links. And reading intelligent, unbiased posts from people like yourself.
I hope my negative opinions of Federer weren't just based on blind prejudice and ignorance.
I really coudn't tell you specifically, off hand, why Federer started to annoy me after being a great admirer of him. I do admire his fantastic tennis.
Think the image I had of him changed over the years.
Maybe he has changed and it would be hard not to with his success.
Changed into what. I don't know but probably somthing better than I imagined.
Cheers.

Speranza
07-13-2009, 06:46 AM
Fedex, Lawrence, can I just say that many people on this forum could learn a lot from both your most recent posts - not just regarding Roger, but applying your thought patterns, attitudes and honesty to any pro player that is heavily in the public eye and has every word scrutinized.

For once, a thread that hasn't turned out into an immature ****ging match of the "my dad's bigger than yours" ilk, and I hate Mr X because of Y and Z.

Again, cheers guys.

JeMar
07-13-2009, 07:59 AM
How arrogant of Federer to look at the interviewer when talking.

JeMar
07-13-2009, 07:59 AM
Would he have done that if he had an average job?

How many multimillion dollar charities have you set up?

Dummy.

JeMar
07-13-2009, 08:00 AM
Red and black at the U.S. Open. My favorite colors!

JeMar
07-13-2009, 08:03 AM
I pay enough taxes.

Morron.

The Swiss pay more taxes than you, moron.

Didn't stop Federer.

Then again, I'd see someone like you doing something like this...

http://mike.verdone.ca/media/zoolander-school.jpg

Maximo: What is this? A center for ants? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read... if they can't even fit inside the building?
Mugatu: Derek, this is just a small...
Maximo: I don't wanna hear your excuses! The building has to be at least... three times bigger than this!

JeMar
07-13-2009, 08:08 AM
Oh of course, Federer doesn't have much money in the bank...:oops:

How stupid of you. :oops:

How old are you? I'm starting to think that 9 is severely overshooting it.

Your parents make... 100k pounds a year being extremely generous if your parents are anything like you. Federer makes exponentially more than that amount. Federer will both pay substantially more in taxes, as well as have more money in the bank.

Once you get off your allowance and get a job, you'll understand.

Fedex
07-13-2009, 08:13 AM
Thanks Speranza.
I think a lot of posts get way out of hand and tempers fray due to misinterpretation, people flying off at tangents and, at worse, insult.
Usually in that order.

JeMar
07-13-2009, 08:20 AM
Look who's talking, the deluded ******* moron.

Im not the one posting picture's and annotating them like a muppet...:oops:

Your one of the typical arrogant Americans.

No wonder you have feelings for Federer. :oops:

With a self esteem like yours, everybody's a snob.

We'll just leave it at that. Hopefully you can grow up to be a decent human being. Some of us have to get there the hard way, and it's obviously the road you (or circumstance) have chosen for yourself. Cheers.

Lifted
07-13-2009, 08:24 AM
Don't worry, i'll always remember you as the cocky deluded *******.

Don't worry, I'll always remember you as the cocky, deluded Murraytard.

JeMar
07-13-2009, 08:28 AM
Don't worry, i'll always remember you as the cocky deluded *******...

Don't worry, I won't remember you three seconds after I read your last post.

ramseszerg
07-13-2009, 08:30 AM
Thanks, you're helping me understand why this section is full of personal attacks.

10characters

aphex
07-13-2009, 08:35 AM
The Swiss pay more taxes than you, moron.

Didn't stop Federer.

Then again, I'd see someone like you doing something like this...

http://mike.verdone.ca/media/zoolander-school.jpg

Maximo: What is this? A center for ants? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read... if they can't even fit inside the building?
Mugatu: Derek, this is just a small...
Maximo: I don't wanna hear your excuses! The building has to be at least... three times bigger than this!


you're overestimating his intelligence-zoolander's intelligence>maximo's intelligence

exhibit no.1:

Diggler
--------

Federer was wearing a pair of underpants which said, "Sucked in Roddick, I beat you again loser." Apparently a few ball boys saw it in the locker room after the match.

Federer is just so arrogant. He says Nike gave him the underpants after the match, but I don't believe him.

Maximo
---------
Any link????

JeMar
07-13-2009, 08:38 AM
Fixed it for you. ;)

Reported. You can't change quotes like that, sorry kiddo. Keep it up and you'll be back chasing the spinning tire down the road with a stick (or whatever it is you do for fun) pretty soon.

vtmike
07-13-2009, 09:00 AM
Don't worry, i'll always remember you as the cocky deluded *******...

I see Murray's colon got back its internet connection...Did you make a complaint to the internet provider after Murray lost in Wimby SF?

You really need to come out of there sometime and breathe some fresh air...

King_Grass
07-13-2009, 09:06 AM
Fixed it for you. ;)

Hey Maximoron I told you Murray will not even reach the finals didn't I? :lol:

It was so satisfying to watch him get crushed by ARod! Now learn to shut your trap and always listen to me from now on you muppet!

Mansewerz
07-13-2009, 09:23 AM
The Swiss pay more taxes than you, moron.

Didn't stop Federer.

Then again, I'd see someone like you doing something like this...

http://mike.verdone.ca/media/zoolander-school.jpg

Maximo: What is this? A center for ants? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read... if they can't even fit inside the building?
Mugatu: Derek, this is just a small...
Maximo: I don't wanna hear your excuses! The building has to be at least... three times bigger than this!


One of the best scenes ever.


And this interview is further proof that he reads these boards.

"I thought the jacket was a bit of a criticism" "Military jacket"

All straight from TW users. Gotta love it :D

FedFan_2009
07-13-2009, 10:07 AM
Zoolander FTW, best film evah!!!

flyinghippos101
07-13-2009, 10:33 AM
I thought Maximo was going to initiate godwin's law for sure but I guess "arrogant americans" comes close

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 11:35 AM
Every top athlete dominates money to the poor why because they can afford it and it helps there image which we all know Federer is obsessed about.
So Federer is a "snob" for donating his money and he's a "snob" for not donating his money.

OK, I see you point. Shame on Roger for helping poor people. :roll:

BTW, no, not every top athlete donates their money to help the poor. I've never heard of Sampras donating his money to help poor people nor a lot of pro football (American), basketball, and baseball players. Have you heard of Davydenko donating his money to help the poor? :oops:

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 11:39 AM
So Federer is a "snob" for donating his money and he's a "snob" for not donating his money.

OK, I see you point. Shame on Roger for helping poor people. :roll:

BTW, no, not every top athlete donates their money to help the poor. I've never heard of Sampras donating his money to help poor people nor a lot of pro football (American), basketball, and baseball players. Have you heard of Davydenko donating his money to help the poor? :oops:

Davydenko is not a world renowned athlete only tennis fans know who he is whilst guys like Federer are known by everybody.

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 11:44 AM
I pay enough taxes.

Um...how is that even remotely the same thing? You HAVE TO PAY taxes or else you go to prison. You don't have much of a choice but to pay them.

Charitable donations, OTOH, are totally voluntary. You don't have to donate a dime if you don't want to. Which obviously you've chosen not to. So why don't you keep slamming Federer's character instead of looking in a mirror. :oops:

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 11:49 AM
Davydenko is not a world renowned athlete only tennis fans know who he is whilst guys like Federer are known by everybody.
Um...he's been in the Top 5 or Top 10 for many years, that makes Davydenko a "top athlete", your words, not mine. He also has made tens of millions of dollars playing tennis. So where are his donations to the poor? :-?

icedevil0289
07-13-2009, 11:50 AM
Oh, King Troll strikes again!

We all know you're a ******* in disguise, yet you claim to be a Nadal fan...:oops:

why is he a ******* in disguise? Because he doesn't like Murray. Not every person who dislikes murray is a federer fan.

King_Grass
07-13-2009, 11:53 AM
Oh, King Troll strikes again!

We all know you're a ******* in disguise, yet you claim to be a Nadal fan...:oops:

I don't care who you think I am a fan of...The point is that you were WRONG as usual and your boy got his ***** whooped bad by ARod!! :oops: I couldn't stop laughing when I saw that Brit media overhype job go down to ARod! :lol: Hell, I still can't stop laughing! :lol:

All-rounder
07-13-2009, 12:01 PM
I can't believe the hate in this thread even when federer donates to charity there is something wrong with that some people need to grow up and stop judging federer's life and get their one sorted out

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 12:05 PM
Your 179 posts are all garbage, yet you still haven't got banned. :lol:
Look who's talking. :oops:

All-rounder
07-13-2009, 12:10 PM
I've input more than that tool.

Besides, i only speak my mind...
Yet when others do the same especially when its on Murray you call it trolling

maximo
07-13-2009, 12:33 PM
Michael Jackson was stange funny how people all of a sudden like him now he's dead.

I've always liked MJ, and he wasn't what people accused him of being...

icedevil0289
07-13-2009, 12:34 PM
Michael Jackson was stange funny how people all of a sudden like him now he's dead.

I guess that's the only thing I agree with maximo about. I've always liked him as well. He was my favorite.

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 12:40 PM
Um...he's been in the Top 5 or Top 10 for many years, that makes Davydenko a "top athlete", your words, not mine. He also has made tens of millions of dollars playing tennis. So where are his donations to the poor? :-?

Pull the other one ask anybody who knows nothing about tennis and they wont have a clue who Davydenko is.

edberg505
07-13-2009, 12:46 PM
Pull the other one ask anybody who knows nothing about tennis and they wont have a clue who Davydenko is.

LOL, I'm not sure what you are searching for here. Federer really is a nice guy. I've met him before in Houston. I would say it's not much of a stretch to think he would donate his money and time to a charity. And the fact is there are plenty of rich people (some pro athletes) who don't donate money and time to charities.

jstr
07-13-2009, 12:50 PM
Seems like people are pretty angry at Federer these days ...

R.Federer
07-13-2009, 01:27 PM
wheres the full 30minute interview

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 02:20 PM
Pull the other one ask anybody who knows nothing about tennis and they wont have a clue who Davydenko is.
People who know nothing about tennis don't even know who Federer is, especially here in the U.S. Ask someone living in the desert in Mongolia if they know who Federer is. :-?

But in any case, what does that have anything to do with how much money Davydenko has and how little he's donated to charity? What, only ultra famous people are allowed to donate money? The charities won't accept money from non-famous people? :-?

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 02:24 PM
People who know nothing about tennis don't even know who Federer is, especially here in the U.S. Ask someone living in the desert in Mongolia if they know who Federer is. :-?

But in any case, what does that have anything to do with how much money Davydenko has and how little he's donated to charity? What, only ultra famous people are allowed to donate money? The charities won't accept money from non-famous people? :-?

No but the Nikolay Davydenko foundation just doesn't have a ring to it does it?

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 02:27 PM
No but the Nikolay Davydenko foundation just doesn't have a ring to it does it?
Um....why not? Do you really think poor starving children care if the money used to buy them food, clothing, and books come from The Roger Federer Foundation or the Nikolay Davydenko Foundation? :-?

JeMar
07-13-2009, 02:30 PM
I've always liked MJ, and he wasn't what people accused him of being...

Really? I heard he messed with Mandy01's avatar. :shock:

You know, the one you were so concerned with.

FedFan_2009
07-13-2009, 02:31 PM
I'm still waiting for the ND line of caps, shirts and warmup jackets.

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 02:31 PM
Um....why not? Do you really think poor starving children care if the money used to buy them food, clothing, and books come from The Roger Federer Foundation or the Nikolay Davydenko Foundation? :-?

You're missing the point only world famous athletes or celebretys open up these foundations like Federer, Agassi, Beckham etc why because it helps there PR and they want to give back aswell.

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 02:36 PM
You're missing the point only world famous athletes or celebretys open up these foundations like Federer, Agassi, Beckham etc why because it helps there PR and they want to give back aswell.
Um...is there a law that states if you're not super famous, you are prohibited from opening a foundation? There are thousands of charitable foundations started by people you've never heard of and have no idea where they got their money from. :oops:

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 02:39 PM
Um...is there a law that states if you're not super famous, you are prohibited from opening a foundation? There are thousands of charitable foundations started by people you've never heard of and have no idea where they got their money from. :oops:

Please tell me why Davydenko, Ferrer and Robredo don't have foundations then?

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 02:54 PM
Please tell me why Davydenko, Ferrer and Robredo don't have foundations then?
Maybe because they like to keep the money that they've earned and are not as magnanimous as Federer? Who knows? Why don't you ask them? I'm not their accountant.

Why don't you send a letter to Davydenko pretending to be a poor little girl and ask if he'll send you a check for $100,000? :lol: LOL

BallzofSkill
07-13-2009, 02:56 PM
Every top athlete dominates money to the poor why because they can afford it and it helps there image which we all know Federer is obsessed about.

Roger Federer = Greatest Snob Of All Time.

which is actually ironic because he's called 'snobby' by couch potatoes while being highly regarded by his athletic peers.

edberg505
07-13-2009, 02:59 PM
Both he wants to help South Africa because his mother comes from there and it also helps his PR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6nb9TAtxkE

Pay particularly close attention to the video around the 1 min. and the 1:57 min mark. I'm pretty sure neither Federer nor his mom is from India.

You're missing the point only world famous athletes or celebretys open up these foundations like Federer, Agassi, Beckham etc why because it helps there PR and they want to give back aswell.

Agassi isn't really in the limelight anymore so it really does his PR no good. The guy built a school to help less privileged kids in the Las Vegas area so it's not like he immediately stopped donating money once he retired from tennis. Why do you think these guys have to have some ulterior motive to their kindness and generosity? The real question is why doesn't Pete Sampras have some sort of foundation? That guy has got to be sitting on a s***load of money.

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 03:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6nb9TAtxkE

Pay particularly close attention to the video around the 1 min. and the 1:57 min mark. I'm pretty sure neither Federer nor his mom is from India.



Agassi isn't really in the limelight anymore so it really does his PR no good. The guy built a school to help less privileged kids in the Las Vegas area so it's not like he immediately stopped donating money once he retired from tennis. Why do you think these guys have to have some ulterior motive to their kindness and generosity? The real question is why doesn't Pete Sampras have some sort of foundation? That guy has got to be sitting on a s***load of money.

Im pretty sure Pete has done work for charity cancer I think.

FedFan_2009
07-13-2009, 03:08 PM
Im pretty sure Pete has done work for charity cancer I think.

You think? There's nothing on the Wikipedia article. Let's face it - Pete has always been a very greedy and selfish person.

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 03:11 PM
Im pretty sure Pete has done work for charity cancer I think.
So Pete Sampras is not famous enough to start his own foundation? :oops:

Or maybe he's just selfish, self-centered, and likes to keep all of his tens of millions of dollars for himself? Even though his wife's an actress and has probably made some decent money in her career? Unlike Mirka?

JeMar
07-13-2009, 03:12 PM
You think? There's nothing on the Wikipedia article. Let's face it - Pete has always been a very greedy and selfish person.

LOL, Wiki isn't the best of sources. (http://www.petesampras.com/sampras2.html)

He's done plenty of charity work. Looking at just the Wiki is the epitome of laziness.

OddJack
07-13-2009, 03:15 PM
LOL, Wiki isn't the best of sources. (http://www.petesampras.com/sampras2.html)

He's done plenty of charity work. Looking at just the Wiki is the epitome of laziness.

Any source citing pete charity work? I am just curious to see if has done any.. he appears to be kind of guy who would do this stuff.

edberg505
07-13-2009, 03:19 PM
Any source citing pete charity work? I am just curious to see if has done any.. he appears to be kind of guy who would do this stuff.

He has donated to several charities. I know cancer was the big one because of his coach. But there have been a few more like cerebral palsy and make a wish.

JeMar
07-13-2009, 03:19 PM
Any source citing pete charity work? I am just curious to see if has done any.. he appears to be kind of guy who would do this stuff.

Well, there's his official site. I found a website that cites the 2000 ATP Media Guide, but I can't get my hands on it.

rommil
07-13-2009, 03:25 PM
Im pretty sure Pete has done work for charity cancer I think.

Charity cancer? No wonder Sampras didn't make it big with foundations.

Cesc Fabregas
07-13-2009, 03:30 PM
So Pete Sampras is not famous enough to start his own foundation? :oops:

Or maybe he's just selfish, self-centered, and likes to keep all of his tens of millions of dollars for himself? Even though his wife's an actress and has probably made some decent money in her career? Unlike Mirka?

Or maybe Pete wants to donate to charity privatly and not look for all the praise like Federer? :oops:

rocket
07-13-2009, 03:33 PM
My instincts say that he is self obsessed and pretentious but I would be glad to be proven wrong.

My girlfriend is a clinical pyschologist and I asked her opinion of RF. She said she couldn't make a proper formulation of anyone without interviewing them in person and asking many very specific questions.
She also had a dig at us forum users as to why we idolise and despise people that we don't even know, and to think about getting a life.

Your GF is 110% right. You should listen to her. ;)

FedFan_2009
07-13-2009, 03:53 PM
I think Federer's problem is his personality and delivery. To some of us he sounds pretentious, insincere and cheesy. (Not just based on Wimby 2009 but from forming opinions over the years)
Some people don't see this and think he's charming and lovely.
He might be a totally genuine guy. Heart of gold and all.
None of us really know his true nature. We can only guess and go with our instincts based on our own experiences and make comparisons with people that we have already met and know.
Anyone who really claims to know this guy and say he is either a genuine great guy or arrogant and self obsessed are themselves being in danger of looking arrogant.
My instincts say that he is self obsessed and pretentious but I would be glad to be proven wrong.
My girlfriend is a clinical pyschologist and I asked her opinion of RF. She said she couldn't make a proper formulation of anyone without interviewing them in person and asking many very specific questions.
She also had a dig at us forum users as to why we idolise and despise people that we don't even know, and to think about getting a life.

Yeah but what did she think about the match? :):)

Fedex
07-13-2009, 03:55 PM
Yeah but what did she think about the match? :):)

She thinks Roger's taste in fashion stinks ha ha

BreakPoint
07-13-2009, 04:19 PM
Or maybe Pete wants to donate to charity privatly and not look for all the praise like Federer? :oops:
Then why does Sampras mention his charitable donations on his website? :oops:

And are you saying that everyone who sets up a charitable foundation is just looking for praise and couldn't care less about charitable causes? :-?

Yellow_Fluff
07-13-2009, 04:27 PM
So much hate in this thread. :o

Cesc Fabregas
07-14-2009, 01:24 AM
Then why does Sampras mention his charitable donations on his website? :oops:

And are you saying that everyone who sets up a charitable foundation is just looking for praise and couldn't care less about charitable causes? :-?



No but it does help there PR and ego.

World Beater
07-14-2009, 01:51 AM
whether or not, federer donates money to help his pr or ego is immaterial.

the bottomline is that individuals needing the funds are getting it.

agassi is also seen in a similar light but who cares at the end of the day. people are being helped - that's what matters.

BreakPoint
07-14-2009, 02:51 AM
No but it does help there PR and ego.
And is there anything wrong with that?