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TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-23-2009, 04:22 AM
Im 29 years old, i used to be ranked 1100 in singles and 1000 in doubles.
I was playing Futures in USA in 2004 and 2005 and i just have to say that i envy you that live in America. That was the best weeks of my lives,i just love everything about the country,the cars,the tennis-stadiums,the greyhound-buses,the food,the women,the climate,the culture...everything!...I have a great life here in Sweden and a job that pays fairly good but God i miss it:cry:
Thanks.

dman72
07-23-2009, 04:36 AM
Im 29 years old, i used to be ranked 1100 in singles and 1000 in doubles.
I was playing Futures in USA in 2004 and 2005 and i just have to say that i envy you that live in America. That was the best weeks of my lives,i just love everything about the country,the cars,the tennis-stadiums,the greyhound-buses,the food,the women,the climate,the culture...everything!...I have a great life here in Sweden and a job that pays fairly good but God i miss it:cry:
Thanks.

Living in America is great if you can have enough money to lead a relatively leisurely life, playing tennis, etc. The weather sucks in Sweden, especially for tennis players, but there are certainly aspects of your society that are far more civilized than ours. Don't get sick without health insurance here.

I've been to Sweden multiple times, and you don't have anything approaching the level of poverty and crime that we have here. There's no question that being rich in the US is probably better than being rich in Sweden, but what about the other 80% of the population?

Anyway, glad you had a good time.

Oldracquet27
07-23-2009, 04:48 AM
i moved here from another country 5 years ago. Still i thank God for that decision i took. Even w a bad economy this is an awesome country to live, not to mention if you like to play tennis and live in S. Florida like me. I play a lot! everywhere, and i have seen all the pros hitting from just 8 feet away at local tourn. in Miami: Fed, Nadal, Henin, Venus etc.

If u do not have strong things attaching u there, make the move! plan it first of course. There is always an opportunity of how to start again here. I respect what the other person said, but people who struggle too much here i believe is cause they just do not do anything at all to help themselves!

You are very young, u can do it, just organize it and plan it.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-23-2009, 05:09 AM
Thanx dman and oldracquet...
Yeah i guess i only saw the good side of life when i was there...but still,everything felt so familiar in a way,yet un-familiar. It was just magical.
Yeah the weather here is just depressing...It is July and its been raining for 4 days...

Southern-Florida really sounds good...
Is there lots of teaching-positions (tennis of course) available in USA?

mikeler
07-23-2009, 06:01 AM
Wow, if you are missing the USA in the summer, you are in for a rough winter! Florida is a tennis hot bed, you'd likely have no trouble finding a job here. I could go for a little cool weather right now, what are the temps in Sweden currently?

conditionZero
07-23-2009, 06:37 AM
i moved here from another country 5 years ago. Still i thank God for that decision i took. Even w a bad economy this is an awesome country to live... There is always an opportunity of how to start again here. I respect what the other person said, but people who struggle too much here i believe is cause they just do not do anything at all to help themselves!

THANK YOU!!!!

Might I ask what country you came here from, Oldracquet?

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-23-2009, 06:39 AM
Wow, if you are missing the USA in the summer, you are in for a rough winter! Florida is a tennis hot bed, you'd likely have no trouble finding a job here. I could go for a little cool weather right now, what are the temps in Sweden currently?
Sounds interesteing...its mid-summer,the rain is just showering down and it is about 10 c, that might be 35-45 F

mrw
07-23-2009, 08:01 AM
Living in America is great if you can have enough money to lead a relatively leisurely life, playing tennis, etc. The weather sucks in Sweden, especially for tennis players, but there are certainly aspects of your society that are far more civilized than ours. Don't get sick without health insurance here. Thanks but government health care is not for the majority of working Americans. I support capitalism and recognize that this is the best place in the world to live.

[QUOTE ]I've been to Sweden multiple times, and you don't have anything approaching the level of poverty and crime that we have here. There's no question that being rich in the US is probably better than being rich in Sweden, but what about the other 80% of the population? [QUOTE/]

80% ????? GET A JOB. you will be amazed how life improves when you have an income

Ironwood
07-23-2009, 09:21 AM
Magician....who was the highest ranked opponent you have faced and how did you fare?

mikeler
07-23-2009, 09:45 AM
Sounds interesteing...its mid-summer,the rain is just showering down and it is about 10 c, that might be 35-45 F


50 degrees! Wow, that is awfully cool for July.

dman72
07-23-2009, 05:01 PM
Thanks but government health care is not for the majority of working Americans. I support capitalism and recognize that this is the best place in the world to live.

[QUOTE ]I've been to Sweden multiple times, and you don't have anything approaching the level of poverty and crime that we have here. There's no question that being rich in the US is probably better than being rich in Sweden, but what about the other 80% of the population? [QUOTE/]

80% ????? GET A JOB. you will be amazed how life improves when you have an income



Why does every Rush Limbaugh fan think that people who bring up the issue of universal health care and poverty don't have jobs?

I'm a 35 year old guy who owns his own home, has a kid, and has a family income that is 3 times the national medium (although I live where cost of living is twice what it is in other places). I have insurance coverage through my own job and my wifes, which is about as good a coverage as you can get. That doesn't mean that I'm blind enough to look past the problems we have here. Not that your response really warranted even that much of my time, I'm guessing you're a kid with a big mouth.....

Anyway, back to the original poster:

The weather in Florida is good for playing tennis all year round, although You might only want to play at night during the summer because the heat and humidity are pretty rough. I have friends from Sweden, and they had a rough time with the summer in New York, 90 F and high dew point. It's like that in Florida half the year.

dman72
07-23-2009, 05:03 PM
Sounds interesteing...its mid-summer,the rain is just showering down and it is about 10 c, that might be 35-45 F


You must be way up North. The forecast for Stockholm is 70F tomorrow, 64 it Gothenburg.

stanfordtennis alum
07-23-2009, 05:05 PM
Im 29 years old, i used to be ranked 1100 in singles and 1000 in doubles.
I was playing Futures in USA in 2004 and 2005 and i just have to say that i envy you that live in America. That was the best weeks of my lives,i just love everything about the country,the cars,the tennis-stadiums,the greyhound-buses,the food,the women,the climate,the culture...everything!...I have a great life here in Sweden and a job that pays fairly good but God i miss it:cry:
Thanks.

its a great country when u have a good job and make good money :)

pmerk34
07-23-2009, 05:08 PM
Living in America is great if you can have enough money to lead a relatively leisurely life, playing tennis, etc. The weather sucks in Sweden, especially for tennis players, but there are certainly aspects of your society that are far more civilized than ours. Don't get sick without health insurance here.

I've been to Sweden multiple times, and you don't have anything approaching the level of poverty and crime that we have here. There's no question that being rich in the US is probably better than being rich in Sweden, but what about the other 80% of the population?

Anyway, glad you had a good time.

Wow you really sound grateful to live here. Why don't you immigrate to Sweden? Good luck with it.

pmerk34
07-23-2009, 05:08 PM
its a great country when u have a good job and make good money :)

If that's all you care about.

gatorbait01
07-23-2009, 06:47 PM
Im 29 years old, i used to be ranked 1100 in singles and 1000 in doubles.
I was playing Futures in USA in 2004 and 2005 and i just have to say that i envy you that live in America. That was the best weeks of my lives,i just love everything about the country,the cars,the tennis-stadiums,the greyhound-buses,the food,the women,the climate,the culture...everything!...I have a great life here in Sweden and a job that pays fairly good but God i miss it:cry:
Thanks.


Really nice to hear you liked it here. It's actually quite sad that there are some usa haters right inside our own country (dman72). I thank God I was born in this country and was provided will enormous opportunity to achieve success (personally and econimically).

dennis10is
07-23-2009, 08:15 PM
Why does every Rush Limbaugh fan think that people who bring up the issue of universal health care and poverty don't have jobs?

I'm a 35 year old guy who owns his own home, has a kid, and has a family income that is 3 times the national medium (although I live where cost of living is twice what it is in other places). I have insurance coverage through my own job and my wifes, which is about as good a coverage as you can get. That doesn't mean that I'm blind enough to look past the problems we have here. Not that your response really warranted even that much of my time, I'm guessing you're a kid with a big mouth.....

Anyway, back to the original poster:

The weather in Florida is good for playing tennis all year round, although You might only want to play at night during the summer because the heat and humidity are pretty rough. I have friends from Sweden, and they had a rough time with the summer in New York, 90 F and high dew point. It's like that in Florida half the year.

Sshh!!

Don't you know that you can't complain about living in America! Where do you think you are living? China, Iran? In those countries, you can protest and the government will put you down. In America, if you protest, your neighbor will shoot you.

Stay quiet man if you want to live!! You sound like one of those Godless, perpetually fornicating liberals. Stop it!

Ahem...I love America. It is the land, blessed by God above all others. I love Democracy, we all have the right to vote for the Republican Party. I love Capitalism, corporate tax breaks and bailouts are the twin pillars of our economic dominance.

dennis10is
07-23-2009, 08:21 PM
Im 29 years old, i used to be ranked 1100 in singles and 1000 in doubles.
I was playing Futures in USA in 2004 and 2005 and i just have to say that i envy you that live in America. That was the best weeks of my lives,i just love everything about the country,the cars,the tennis-stadiums,the greyhound-buses,the food,the women,the climate,the culture...everything!...I have a great life here in Sweden and a job that pays fairly good but God i miss it:cry:
Thanks.

Those were just a few weeks and you did not see the uglier side of America. As you can see, America is infected with Commie loving, Socialist heathens. We are doing our best to get rid to these scums. Probably send them in exile to some garbage heap like Europe where they can collect their welfare checks, live in subsidized housing, drink wine all day, have sex with really trim and fit women and post coitus, they can smoke smelly unfiltered cigarettes (as all cigs should be) while complaining about American foreign policies.

Admit it, you want to emigrate to the God fearing USA. Welcome!

Jsa2u
07-23-2009, 08:57 PM
Thanks! I love USA as well! Glad you enjoyed it! Good luck!

conditionZero
07-24-2009, 01:40 AM
Those were just a few weeks and you did not see the uglier side of America. As you can see, America is infected with Commie loving, Socialist heathens. We are doing our best to get rid to these scums. Probably send them in exile to some garbage heap like Europe where they can collect their welfare checks, live in subsidized housing, drink wine all day, have sex with really trim and fit women and post coitus, they can smoke smelly unfiltered cigarettes (as all cigs should be) while complaining about American foreign policies...

Really????
I thought we were sending them all to Washington.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 02:21 AM
Magician....who was the highest ranked opponent you have faced and how did you fare?
I have beaten Andreas Vinciguerra,but that was when i was a junior. As a senior, i beat a German guy that was ranked 900 in the world.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 02:22 AM
50 degrees! Wow, that is awfully cool for July.
I know,makes you kind of depressed

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 02:25 AM
You must be way up North. The forecast for Stockholm is 70F tomorrow, 64 it Gothenburg.
I am in the south, well its very windy but i guess its around 55-60 right now.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 03:20 AM
Those were just a few weeks and you did not see the uglier side of America. As you can see, America is infected with Commie loving, Socialist heathens. We are doing our best to get rid to these scums. Probably send them in exile to some garbage heap like Europe where they can collect their welfare checks, live in subsidized housing, drink wine all day, have sex with really trim and fit women and post coitus, they can smoke smelly unfiltered cigarettes (as all cigs should be) while complaining about American foreign policies.

Admit it, you want to emigrate to the God fearing USA. Welcome!
I know i didnt see the uglier side of America as i told another poster, im aware of that,but i can only talk about what i experienced.I was in Missouri,Illinois,Kentucky,NYC,and Connecticut...I just loved NYC,felt sort of magic to be there, the pulse was so high the food was tantastic but the ppl seemed very occupied. Kentucky and Illinois was sooo hot...But really nice places,Missouri seemed a bit...that they maybe were not following the rest of the country? Left behind? And connecticiut reminded me very much of Sweden actually. Well, i wouldnt mind emigrate to USA, but it would take me forever to decide WHERE in USA i would move.

dman72
07-24-2009, 04:29 AM
I know i didnt see the uglier side of America as i told another poster, im aware of that,but i can only talk about what i experienced.I was in Missouri,Illinois,Kentucky,NYC,and Connecticut...I just loved NYC,felt sort of magic to be there, the pulse was so high the food was tantastic but the ppl seemed very occupied. Kentucky and Illinois was sooo hot...But really nice places,Missouri seemed a bit...that they maybe were not following the rest of the country? Left behind? And connecticiut reminded me very much of Sweden actually. Well, i wouldnt mind emigrate to USA, but it would take me forever to decide WHERE in USA i would move.

Missouri is what most of the US is actually like. That's middle America.

If you wanted to play tennis all year round in the US without being filthy rich, basically south of the Mason-Dixon line. The hotbeds are Florida, Southern California, and I think Texas is big on tennis in some areas.

Also, University of Virginia, Athens GA..those college towns have a big tennis programs.

There aren't many cities in the world like NYC, never mind in the US. However, it's an IMMENSELY tough place to play tennis regularly compared to even where I live 50 miles away, where there are numerous public courts. You have to pay and WAIT for everything in NYC.

dman72
07-24-2009, 04:32 AM
Those were just a few weeks and you did not see the uglier side of America. As you can see, America is infected with Commie loving, Socialist heathens. We are doing our best to get rid to these scums. Probably send them in exile to some garbage heap like Europe where they can collect their welfare checks, live in subsidized housing, drink wine all day, have sex with really trim and fit women and post coitus, they can smoke smelly unfiltered cigarettes (as all cigs should be) while complaining about American foreign policies.

Admit it, you want to emigrate to the God fearing USA. Welcome!

Is that part of the "social safety net" over there? Sign me up.

Seriously, "love it or leave it" Americans...in most case don't know anyone from anywhere else, and usually have never been anywhere else except maybe the Bahamas on vacation....and get all of their information from IQ lowering talk radio.

120mphBodyServe
07-24-2009, 04:47 AM
Really nice to hear you liked it here. It's actually quite sad that there are some usa haters right inside our own country (dman72). I thank God I was born in this country and was provided will enormous opportunity to achieve success (personally and econimically).

I think it's sad that you're so blind to see how socially decrepid your country has become, and how much a product of ignorance you are...
Thanks largely to the educational and religious structures prevalent in the USA...

gatorbait01
07-24-2009, 06:37 AM
I think it's sad that you're so blind to see how socially decrepid your country has become, and how much a product of ignorance you are...
Thanks largely to the educational and religious structures prevalent in the USA...

I feel sorry for you, really I do. I am happy to be living in America and believe that our judeo-christian values are paramount to a great society.

dman72
07-24-2009, 06:41 AM
I am in the south, well its very windy but i guess its around 55-60 right now.


malmo? Lund? I know these places. I've been there 4 times (wannabe musician, now wannabe tennis player. ) Do you have indoor places readily available? Playing indoors here on LI is really expensive. I parted with $500 bucks just to play 12 matches over the winter. Forget it if you want to take lessons and play more than once a week for the 3 months when you basically can't play outside, except the sporadic nice day here and there. .

gatorbait01
07-24-2009, 06:45 AM
Is that part of the "social safety net" over there? Sign me up.

Seriously, "love it or leave it" Americans...in most case don't know anyone from anywhere else, and usually have never been anywhere else except maybe the Bahamas on vacation....and get all of their information from IQ lowering talk radio.

Nothing wrong with criticizing america, but to act like someone's got it rough in america is just plain stupid. There's more opportunity in this country than any other. Key word opportunity. If you're a free loader, or you made bad mistakes, etc then yeah I guess a socialist country is best for those types.

I don't think a couple of trrips to Europe makes you any more of an expert than anyone else.

mikeler
07-24-2009, 06:48 AM
I know i didnt see the uglier side of America as i told another poster, im aware of that,but i can only talk about what i experienced.I was in Missouri,Illinois,Kentucky,NYC,and Connecticut...I just loved NYC,felt sort of magic to be there, the pulse was so high the food was tantastic but the ppl seemed very occupied. Kentucky and Illinois was sooo hot...But really nice places,Missouri seemed a bit...that they maybe were not following the rest of the country? Left behind? And connecticiut reminded me very much of Sweden actually. Well, i wouldnt mind emigrate to USA, but it would take me forever to decide WHERE in USA i would move.


If you think Kentucky and Illinois are hot, then you should avoid Texas and Florida. Here in Florida, you can have oppressive heat for 4 to 5 months. Southern California near the coast has fantastic weather, but like NYC is very expensive.

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 06:51 AM
If you think Kentucky and Illinois are hot, then you should avoid Texas and Florida. Here in Florida, you can have oppressive heat for 4 to 5 months. Southern California near the coast has fantastic weather, but like NYC is very expensive.

My relatives live in central Florida. How do you handle that humidity? Murderous.

gatorbait01
07-24-2009, 06:52 AM
malmo? Lund? I know these places. I've been there 4 times (wannabe musician, now wannabe tennis player. ) Do you have indoor places readily available? Playing indoors here on LI is really expensive. I parted with $500 bucks just to play 12 matches over the winter. Forget it if you want to take lessons and play more than once a week for the 3 months when you basically can't play outside, except the sporadic nice day here and there. .

Ha Ha, that explains alot!

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 06:56 AM
Missouri is what most of the US is actually like. That's middle America.

If you wanted to play tennis all year round in the US without being filthy rich, basically south of the Mason-Dixon line. The hotbeds are Florida, Southern California, and I think Texas is big on tennis in some areas.

Also, University of Virginia, Athens GA..those college towns have a big tennis programs.

There aren't many cities in the world like NYC, never mind in the US. However, it's an IMMENSELY tough place to play tennis regularly compared to even where I live 50 miles away, where there are numerous public courts. You have to pay and WAIT for everything in NYC.

Yes ppl told me that this is America,they called it the heartland,which is kind of cool i think. South of the Mason-Dixon line means? Tennis seemed to be huge in Illinois and Kentucky (Lexington) there were actually lots off´ppl watching and it was like the event of the month:) I can imagine Manhattan to be virtually impossible to get a court,but we practiced a lot in Astoria,Queens and in The Bronx, there were lots of free courts.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 06:59 AM
If you think Kentucky and Illinois are hot, then you should avoid Texas and Florida. Here in Florida, you can have oppressive heat for 4 to 5 months. Southern California near the coast has fantastic weather, but like NYC is very expensive.
Omg...but it felt much hotter because there were no coast in Illinois and Kentucky, yes Socal appeals to me a lot, we almost rented a car and drove to California but changed our mind in the last second.

dman72
07-24-2009, 07:04 AM
Nothing wrong with criticizing america, but to act like someone's got it rough in america is just plain stupid. There's more opportunity in this country than any other. Key word opportunity. If you're a free loader, or you made bad mistakes, etc then yeah I guess a socialist country is best for those types.

I don't think a couple of trrips to Europe makes you any more of an expert than anyone else.


Sitting down and talking to people for hours on end as opposed to getting my information from Rush Limbaugh and Fox news actually makes me know more about it than you do. Talking to them about how they lead their daily lives, what is difficult for them, what is easy, what they eat, what they do for fun, what they do for work, how much the travel..sorry champ, I think I do know more about life in Europe than you do if you've never been there and never talked extensively with anyone who lives there. It really not that difficult..for the price of a flat panel TV, you could see most of Europe and experience the evil socialist oppression you hear about from Hannity.

Saying that "America rules because I said so" makes you sound really stupid. Using the typical catch words of the angry right winger, calling people freeloaders also makes you sound like an idiot. My wife and I pay over 40K in taxes when all is said and done each year. If that's feeloading, you can go you-know-what yourself. I paid my taxes, I'll now exercise my freedom to call you stupid and naive.

What's funny is that I took a lot of heat in Sweden during the early 2000's, especially from college kids who think they knew everything (what a shock). More than a few conversations started like this:

"your country is terrible, how could you vote for George Bush and support a war of aggression in Iraq..."etc, ad infinitum, even though I did neither thing!

I didn't mind it so much when it was coming from an incredibly hot 20 year old blue eyed super trim chick with a silent J in her name, but I digress.

America has it's pros and cons, so does Sweden.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 07:05 AM
malmo? Lund? I know these places. I've been there 4 times (wannabe musician, now wannabe tennis player. ) Do you have indoor places readily available? Playing indoors here on LI is really expensive. I parted with $500 bucks just to play 12 matches over the winter. Forget it if you want to take lessons and play more than once a week for the 3 months when you basically can't play outside, except the sporadic nice day here and there. .
Yes, i was born in a town called Helsingborg,just 20 min north of Lund:)
There is indoor courts everywhere here, that was built during the "Bjorn-Borg-boom" and they charge you 10 dollars/hour, but i get to play for free in most places. There is also lots of outdoor-courts but that is just simply ironic because you can only play there for like 2 months/year, rest of the time it is to cold or to windy or whatever. 500 bucks to play 12 matches?? Are you serious??:shock: For what? a court and an opponent?

dman72
07-24-2009, 07:06 AM
Ha Ha, that explains alot!

What, that I was a part-time musician who used my vacation time from work to travel to Europe and play shows? Is that something bad?

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 07:09 AM
Sitting down and talking to people for hours on end as opposed to getting my information from Rush Limbaugh and Fox news actually makes me know more about it than you do. Talking to them about how they lead their daily lives, what is difficult for them, what is easy, what they eat, what they do for fun, what they do for work, how much the travel..sorry champ, I think I do know more about life in Europe than you do if you've never been there and never talked extensively with anyone who lives there. It really not that difficult..for the price of a flat panel TV, you could see most of Europe and experience the evil socialist oppression you hear about from Hannity.

Saying that "America rules because I said so" makes you sound really stupid. Using the typical catch words of the angry right winger, calling people freeloaders also makes you sound like an idiot. My wife and I pay over 40K in taxes when all is said and done each year. If that's feeloading, you can go you-know-what yourself. I paid my taxes, I'll now exercise my freedom to call you stupid and naive.

What's funny is that I took a lot of heat in Sweden during the early 2000's, especially from college kids who think they knew everything (what a shock). More than a few conversations started like this:

"your country is terrible, how could you vote for George Bush and support a war of aggression in Iraq..."etc, ad infinitum, even though I did neither thing!

I didn't mind it so much when it was coming from an incredibly hot 20 year old blue eyed super trim chick with a silent J in her name, but I digress.

America has it's pros and cons, so does Sweden.

So anyone who expresses support for the USA likes Rush Limbaug and listens to Fox News? Weird.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 07:10 AM
Missouri is what most of the US is actually like. That's middle America.

If you wanted to play tennis all year round in the US without being filthy rich, basically south of the Mason-Dixon line. The hotbeds are Florida, Southern California, and I think Texas is big on tennis in some areas.

Also, University of Virginia, Athens GA..those college towns have a big tennis programs.

There aren't many cities in the world like NYC, never mind in the US. However, it's an IMMENSELY tough place to play tennis regularly compared to even where I live 50 miles away, where there are numerous public courts. You have to pay and WAIT for everything in NYC.

Yes ppl told me that this is America,they called it the heartland,which is kind of cool i think. South of the Mason-Dixon line means? Tennis seemed to be huge in Illinois and Kentucky (Lexington) there were actually lots off´ppl watching and it was like the event of the month:) I can imagine Manhattan to be virtually impossible to get a court,but we practiced a lot in Astoria,Queens and in The Bronx, there were lots of free courts.

dman72
07-24-2009, 07:11 AM
Yes ppl told me that this is America,they called it the heartland,which is kind of cool i think. South of the Mason-Dixon line means? Tennis seemed to be huge in Illinois and Kentucky (Lexington) there were actually lots off´ppl watching and it was like the event of the month:) I can imagine Manhattan to be virtually impossible to get a court,but we practiced a lot in Astoria,Queens and in The Bronx, there were lots of free courts.

I think you technically need permits to play on the courts in Astoria, but that maybe 30 bucks. The guys I know who live in the boroughs play maybe once a month where we used to play every week here.

The Mason dixon line is the border between the states that seceded during the US War of Secession/Civil War/War of Northern Aggression (depending on where you live :D ) South of that line, the climate is generally warmer unless you're up in the mountains.

dman72
07-24-2009, 07:19 AM
Yes, i was born in a town called Helsingborg,just 20 min north of Lund:)
There is indoor courts everywhere here, that was built during the "Bjorn-Borg-boom" and they charge you 10 dollars/hour, but i get to play for free in most places. There is also lots of outdoor-courts but that is just simply ironic because you can only play there for like 2 months/year, rest of the time it is to cold or to windy or whatever. 500 bucks to play 12 matches?? Are you serious??:shock: For what? a court and an opponent?


..and that was with a discount.

To play 12 matches over 13 weeks rotating different opponents in a league. 2 hrs of play. .

This is one of the most expensive areas to live in the country. Real Estate is at a premium, as are property taxes and utility bills. I doubt that the club is really even turning that big a profit charging that much. Other clubs are even more expensive. There are some very wealthy people who have their whole families signed up to play there..they probably keep it open.

dman72
07-24-2009, 07:22 AM
So anyone who expresses support for the USA likes Rush Limbaug and listens to Fox News? Weird.

Anyone who knee jerks at criticism of their country instead of discussing rationally is a knuckle head. Saying "why don't you move" put you in that category.

Knee jerk right wing knuckleheads disproportionately frequent right wing talk radio and Fox news. It was a shot in the dark on my part. I'm sure you don't spend anytime with that type of media.

wasta
07-24-2009, 07:23 AM
Haha I plan to move to america to texas. I wanna surround myself with people like gatorbait to make myself feel smarter =P

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 07:24 AM
I think you technically need permits to play on the courts in Astoria, but that maybe 30 bucks. The guys I know who live in the boroughs play maybe once a month where we used to play every week here.

The Mason dixon line is the border between the states that seceded during the US War of Secession/Civil War/War of Northern Aggression (depending on where you live :D ) South of that line, the climate is generally warmer unless you're up in the mountains.
Oh ok, well there was some coach who took care of everything for us but he told us it was for free, i remember we practiced beneath something they called "the hell bridge", was some story to it that i dont remember. Ok so basically the southern states? I thought that ppl were really friendly in Kentucky, is that something wellknown or just a coincidence?

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 07:26 AM
..and that was with a discount.

To play 12 matches over 13 weeks rotating different opponents in a league. 2 hrs of play. .

This is one of the most expensive areas to live in the country. Real Estate is at a premium, as are property taxes and utility bills. I doubt that the club is really even turning that big a profit charging that much. Other clubs are even more expensive. There are some very wealthy people who have their whole families signed up to play there..they probably keep it open.
Seems to be very political everything? no?:| A matter of what part of society you belongs to? That use to be the way in Sweden but these days everyone plays tennis,from the richest to the poorest.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 07:28 AM
Listen guys, it is really nice of you to respond to my thread, i appreciate that very much but we shouldnt make this topic to some sort of political issue,right?

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 07:31 AM
Anyone who knee jerks at criticism of their country instead of discussing rationally is a knuckle head. Saying "why don't you move" put you in that category.

Knee jerk right wing knuckleheads disproportionately frequent right wing talk radio and Fox news. It was a shot in the dark on my part. I'm sure you don't spend anytime with that type of media.

As opposed to what? Knee jerk left wing knuckleheads? You seemed enamored with Sweden that is why I suggest you move there - instead of trying to make the United States more like Sweden (quasi Socialist, 98% white, very limited immigration, below replacement level birthrate).

You mentioned a specific country that demographically is extremely different than ours. We cannot be Sweden even if you wanted.

dman72
07-24-2009, 07:35 AM
Oh ok, well there was some coach who took care of everything for us but he told us it was for free, i remember we practiced beneath something they called "the hell bridge", was some story to it that i dont remember. Ok so basically the southern states? I thought that ppl were really friendly in Kentucky, is that something wellknown or just a coincidence?

People in most of the US are friendlier ..to your face...than they are in New York. Basically, we tend to be as nasty and self possessed as Parisians, but if you really need help, you'll get it. :D I deal with people from my company in Kentucky. One woman on a regular basis. She's sugary bubbly sweet to your face, but you should hear her talk about our boss behind her back. That "Southern Hospitality" thing can be a bit of a facade when it comes to non-Southerners. I find the ******* folks to be just as friendly, and they tend to mean it.

I know the hell bridge well, I have friends who live in Astoria. You'll shorten your life span a few years playing tennis over there on a regular basis..air quality is terrible, there's a power plant right there. Did you know that you can play at the US tennis center? It's open to the public..you can play on the same outer courts that are used for the US Open for a fee as long as there isn't a tournament going on. I drive by there once a week, and the lights are on every night, so people are playing.

dman72
07-24-2009, 07:40 AM
Seems to be very political everything? no?:| A matter of what part of society you belongs to? That use to be the way in Sweden but these days everyone plays tennis,from the richest to the poorest.


It's now political, it's just economic. Playing indoors isn't cheap. But you don't HAVE to play indoors here..I know guys who play outside when it's 35 degrees. My cut off is 42, on the dot. :D You'll never progress to be a great player playing only once in awhile for 3 months of the year.

There are very, very few high level tennis players who do not come from at least upper middle class families, if not super rich ones. Look at every great tennis players background..it is what it is. If you want to be a great basketball player, you get a $12 ball and play every day at the local playground, then you get coached in High School, it's all free.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 07:41 AM
As opposed to what? Knee jerk left wing knuckleheads? You seemed enamored with Sweden that is why I suggest you move there - instead of trying to make the United States more like Sweden (quasi Socialist, 98% white, very limited immigration, below replacement level birthrate).

You mentioned a specific country that demographically is extremely different than ours. We cannot be Sweden even if you wanted.
Alright now i have to say something. Based on "qasi Socialist,98% white,very limited immigration,below replacement level birthrate". That my friend is veeeery far from the truth. And i have lived here all my life.

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 07:44 AM
Alright now i have to say something. Based on "qasi Socialist,98% white,very limited immigration,below replacement level birthrate". That my friend is veeeery far from the truth. And i have lived here all my life.

Which is far from the truth? And it wasn't negative either. If you took it as a knock that is your issue.

dman72
07-24-2009, 07:44 AM
As opposed to what? Knee jerk left wing knuckleheads? You seemed enamored with Sweden that is why I suggest you move there - instead of trying to make the United States more like Sweden (quasi Socialist, 98% white, very limited immigration, below replacement level birthrate).

You mentioned a specific country that demographically is extremely different than ours. We cannot be Sweden even if you wanted.

See, now you are using your BRAIN. Good work.

However, there are other countries in Europe with demographics closer to the US that have better social safety nets than we do.

I happen to be in favor of ratcheting back on immigration, especially in this economy. It's tough to have a social utopia with a non-stop influx of unskilled underclass that breeds at twice the normal rate. We can do much better. Personally, I don't really care if the insurance companies don't make profit anymore. They're very easy to dislike.

dman72
07-24-2009, 07:47 AM
Alright now i have to say something. Based on "qasi Socialist,98% white,very limited immigration,below replacement level birthrate". That my friend is veeeery far from the truth. And i have lived here all my life.


In all fairness, you're level of immigration is paltry compared to the US. We have close to 20 Million people here who basically just walked right in, in addition to all the legal immigrants which themselves crush the rate of immigration in most of Europe. And the "natives" of Sweden basically do have a below replacement level birth rate, or close to it. Look up the stats. There's nothing there to be offended by, it's just fact.

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 07:53 AM
In all fairness, you're level of immigration is paltry compared to the US. We have close to 20 Million people here who basically just walked right in, in addition to all the legal immigrants which themselves crush the rate of immigration in most of Europe. And the "natives" of Sweden basically do have a below replacement level birth rate, or close to it. Look up the stats. There's nothing there to be offended by, it's just fact.

And the fact is if Sweden commits ethnic suicide by not having Swedish kids and then opens the floodgates to anyone and pronounces them "Swedish" we will see how long their way of life endures.

Right now they are virtually an ethnically homogeneous society which appears ( I have not been there or studied in depth on this) to have a pretty unified electorate on what they want in their society.

The United States in 2009 has no idea what society it wants.

gatorbait01
07-24-2009, 07:58 AM
Living in America is great if you can have enough money to lead a relatively leisurely life, playing tennis, etc. The weather sucks in Sweden, especially for tennis players, but there are certainly aspects of your society that are far more civilized than ours. Don't get sick without health insurance here.

I've been to Sweden multiple times, and you don't have anything approaching the level of poverty and crime that we have here. There's no question that being rich in the US is probably better than being rich in Sweden, but what about the other 80% of the population?
Anyway, glad you had a good time.

80% of Americans really got it rough! Ha ha

Originally Posted by dman72
Living in America is great if you can have enough money to lead a relatively leisurely life, playing tennis, etc. The weather sucks in Sweden, especially for tennis players, but there are certainly aspects of your society that are far more civilized than ours. Don't get sick without health insurance here.

If you’re so poor that you cannot afford healthcare there is Medicaid. It you have enough money, but chose not to buy healthcare then yeah you pay the price if you get sick.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorbait01
Nothing wrong with criticizing america, but to act like someone's got it rough in america is just plain stupid. There's more opportunity in this country than any other. Key word opportunity. If you're a free loader, or you made bad mistakes, etc then yeah I guess a socialist country is best for those types.

I don't think a couple of trrips to Europe makes you any more of an expert than anyone else.

Sitting down and talking to people for hours on end as opposed to getting my information from Rush Limbaugh and Fox news actually makes me know more about it than you do.
Yeah, better to spoke pot while strumming the guitar (and talking to people) to get a good feel for Europe.

Talking to them about how they lead their daily lives, what is difficult for them, what is easy, what they eat, what they do for fun, what they do for work, how much the travel..sorry champ, I think I do know more about life in Europe than you do if you've never been there and never talked extensively with anyone who lives there. It really not that difficult..for the price of a flat panel TV, you could see most of Europe and experience the evil socialist oppression you hear about from Hannity.

Saying that "America rules because I said so" makes you sound really stupid. Using the typical catch words of the angry right winger, calling people freeloaders also makes you sound like an idiot. My wife and I pay over 40K in taxes when all is said and done each year. If that's feeloading, you can go you-know-what yourself. I paid my taxes, I'll now exercise my freedom to call you stupid and naive.

Hey smart guy, did you know that on your income tax return there’s a line that allows you to contribute more to the government??? Since you’re obviously a blame America first guy (right wing catch phrase) why don’t you give more? In order to afford all the wonderful socialist programs you believe in uncle sam needs more, more, more.
What's funny is that I took a lot of heat in Sweden during the early 2000's, especially from college kids who think they knew everything (what a shock). More than a few conversations started like this:

"your country is terrible, how could you vote for George Bush and support a war of aggression in Iraq..."etc, ad infinitum, even though I did neither thing!

I didn't mind it so much when it was coming from an incredibly hot 20 year old blue eyed super trim chick with a silent J in her name, but I digress.

America has it's pros and cons, so does Sweden.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorbait01
Ha Ha, that explains alot!
What, that I was a part-time musician who used my vacation time from work to travel to Europe and play shows? Is that something bad?

Not necessarily bad, it’s just that most pot smoking, peace loving, wannabe musicians are usually liberals. Right on man!

... Shot in the dark. Bulls eye!

dman72
07-24-2009, 07:59 AM
And the fact is if Sweden commits ethnic suicide by not having Swedish kids and then opens the floodgates to anyone and pronounces the "Swedish" we will see how long their way of life endures.

Right now they are virtually an ethnically homogeneous society which appears ( I have not been there or studied in depth on this) to have a pretty unified electorate on what they want in their society.

The Unties states in 2009 has no idea what society it wants.

My contention is we could have something similar to what they have in Sweden. However, you'd have to take some pretty politically unpopular steps to start the process, and so many people here are so brainwashed against raising the social bar because of right wing propaganda, that they can't fathom what goes on in Europe...all that they know is that someone once told them that it was bad and that it was *gasp* SOCIALISM!! ..when it really isn't.

I'll continue this discussion when I get back from vacation. You're not an idiot, by the way. You just came off as one at first.

dman72
07-24-2009, 08:04 AM
Living in America is great if you can have enough money to lead a relatively leisurely life, playing tennis, etc. The weather sucks in Sweden, especially for tennis players, but there are certainly aspects of your society that are far more civilized than ours. Don't get sick without health insurance here.

I've been to Sweden multiple times, and you don't have anything approaching the level of poverty and crime that we have here. There's no question that being rich in the US is probably better than being rich in Sweden, but what about the other 80% of the population?
Anyway, glad you had a good time.

80% of Americans really got it rough! Ha ha

Originally Posted by dman72
Living in America is great if you can have enough money to lead a relatively leisurely life, playing tennis, etc. The weather sucks in Sweden, especially for tennis players, but there are certainly aspects of your society that are far more civilized than ours. Don't get sick without health insurance here.

If you’re so poor that you cannot afford healthcare there is Medicaid. It you have enough money, but chose not to buy healthcare then yeah you pay the price if you get sick.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorbait01
Nothing wrong with criticizing america, but to act like someone's got it rough in america is just plain stupid. There's more opportunity in this country than any other. Key word opportunity. If you're a free loader, or you made bad mistakes, etc then yeah I guess a socialist country is best for those types.

I don't think a couple of trrips to Europe makes you any more of an expert than anyone else.

Sitting down and talking to people for hours on end as opposed to getting my information from Rush Limbaugh and Fox news actually makes me know more about it than you do.
Yeah, better to spoke pot while strumming the guitar (and talking to people) to get a good feel for Europe.

Talking to them about how they lead their daily lives, what is difficult for them, what is easy, what they eat, what they do for fun, what they do for work, how much the travel..sorry champ, I think I do know more about life in Europe than you do if you've never been there and never talked extensively with anyone who lives there. It really not that difficult..for the price of a flat panel TV, you could see most of Europe and experience the evil socialist oppression you hear about from Hannity.

Saying that "America rules because I said so" makes you sound really stupid. Using the typical catch words of the angry right winger, calling people freeloaders also makes you sound like an idiot. My wife and I pay over 40K in taxes when all is said and done each year. If that's feeloading, you can go you-know-what yourself. I paid my taxes, I'll now exercise my freedom to call you stupid and naive.

Hey smart guy, did you know that on your income tax return there’s a line that allows you to contribute more to the government??? Since you’re obviously a blame America first guy (right wing catch phrase) why don’t you give more? In order to afford all the wonderful socialist programs you believe in uncle sam needs more, more, more.
What's funny is that I took a lot of heat in Sweden during the early 2000's, especially from college kids who think they knew everything (what a shock). More than a few conversations started like this:

"your country is terrible, how could you vote for George Bush and support a war of aggression in Iraq..."etc, ad infinitum, even though I did neither thing!

I didn't mind it so much when it was coming from an incredibly hot 20 year old blue eyed super trim chick with a silent J in her name, but I digress.

America has it's pros and cons, so does Sweden.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorbait01
Ha Ha, that explains alot!
What, that I was a part-time musician who used my vacation time from work to travel to Europe and play shows? Is that something bad?

Not necessarily bad, it’s just that most pot smoking, peace loving, wannabe musicians are usually liberals. Right on man!

... Shot in the dark. Bulls eye!

Oh yes, bulls eye. Never smoked pot and I grew up in the 80's, not the 60's. Fail much?

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 08:11 AM
My contention is we could have something similar to what they have in Sweden. However, you'd have to take some pretty politically unpopular steps to start the process, and so many people here are so brainwashed against raising the social bar because of right wing propaganda, that they can't fathom what goes on in Europe...all that they know is that someone once told them that it was bad and that it was *gasp* SOCIALISM!! ..when it really isn't.

I'll continue this discussion when I get back from vacation. You're not an idiot, by the way. You just came off as one at first.

Have a great vacation get in some tennis!

GeoffB
07-24-2009, 08:15 AM
Listen guys, it is really nice of you to respond to my thread, i appreciate that very much but we shouldnt make this topic to some sort of political issue,right?

I agree. A person of any political persuasion can go ahead and enjoy tennis in America or Sweden as much as they please.

I'm glad you had a great time playing in the US. I've lived in California almost all of my life, and it's an absolutely wonderful place to play. Simple tennis and swim clubs are a dime a dozen, and many are well within the financial reach of ordinary, middle-income folks. Public courts abound as well, and you can tap into a good community of players, even at a high level. The only downside is that it isn't easy to get access to clay courts in California - even many of the expensive clubs don't have them. I've heard that Florida is much better for clay (maybe the dry California climate isn't as clay-maintenance friendly...)

charliefedererer
07-24-2009, 08:30 AM
Magic,
I hope you still have fond feelings for America after reading some of the above comments. I think if you get a chance to visit, you'd still have a good time.
As for me, I'd love to visit Sweden, both for the beauty of the land and the number of great Swedes I've met over time. Maybe next Summer.

gatorbait01
07-24-2009, 08:42 AM
Apoligies to the op for contributing to the derailment of the thread.

Tennis is great in Florida pretty much year round. I'd say here in Tampa that at least half the courts are har-tru which is nice.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 08:52 AM
Which is far from the truth? And it wasn't negative either. If you took it as a knock that is your issue.
I didnt take it as a knock, but it is still not true. Where did you hear that? Discovery channel?

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 08:57 AM
Magic,
I hope you still have fond feelings for America after reading some of the above comments. I think if you get a chance to visit, you'd still have a good time.
As for me, I'd love to visit Sweden, both for the beauty of the land and the number of great Swedes I've met over time. Maybe next Summer.
Thank you,i do.

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 08:57 AM
I didnt take it as a knock, but it is still not true. Where did you hear that? Discovery channel?

UN statistics. Again what part do you dispute?

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 08:58 AM
Apoligies to the op for contributing to the derailment of the thread.

Tennis is great in Florida pretty much year round. I'd say here in Tampa that at least half the courts are har-tru which is nice.
Thats alright. Thanx, alright, southern California or Florida or south of Mason-Dixon line is the place to be if i ever wanna play or work with tennis in USA. Great,thanx.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:00 AM
UN statistics. Again what part do you dispute?
The thing about immigration, the society in Sweden is close to riotting because of the integration or lack of integration in society, ppl from Iraq Iran Ethiopia and Somalia is immigrating in huge masses,although i guess compared to the US its small potatoes.

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 09:04 AM
The thing about immigration, the society in Sweden is close to riotting because of the integration or lack of integration in society, ppl from Iraq Iran Ethiopia and Somalia is immigrating in huge masses,although i guess compared to the US its small potatoes.

It's a horrible policy and one that Finland has chosen NOT to emulate.

mikeler
07-24-2009, 09:04 AM
Yes, i was born in a town called Helsingborg,just 20 min north of Lund:)
There is indoor courts everywhere here, that was built during the "Bjorn-Borg-boom" and they charge you 10 dollars/hour, but i get to play for free in most places. There is also lots of outdoor-courts but that is just simply ironic because you can only play there for like 2 months/year, rest of the time it is to cold or to windy or whatever. 500 bucks to play 12 matches?? Are you serious??:shock: For what? a court and an opponent?


I have a friend whose wife and family live in Russia. He said the courts he plays at in Moscow are $100/hour.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:06 AM
It's a horrible policy and one that Finland has chosen NOT to emulate.
I know, and everyone in Scandinavia now says-"look at the Finns,we should have done what they do"...(in silence)

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:07 AM
I have a friend whose wife and family live in Russia. He said the courts he plays at in Moscow are $100/hour.
Say what?? That is just ridicoulus...does that include massage from a blonde Russian woman?

Steady Eddy
07-24-2009, 09:10 AM
Thats alright. Thanx, alright, southern California or Florida or south of Mason-Dixon line is the place to be if i ever wanna play or work with tennis in USA. Great,thanx.
Don't forget Arizona. It's dry, seldom windy. All in all a great climate for tennis. (Some think that the first tennis ever played in North America was played in Arizona).

I have a friend whose wife and family live in Russia. He said the courts he plays at in Moscow are $100/hour.
It's free here. There are public facilities that charge, but only about $6 an hour. Not bad for providing a clean court, water, and lights.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:11 AM
Don't forget Arizona. It's dry, seldom windy. All in all a great climate for tennis. (Some think that the first tennis ever played in North America was played in Arizona).


It's free here. There are public facilities that charge, but only about $6 an hour. Not bad for providing a clean court, water, and lights.
Thanx! Arizona,yes thats between Cali and Texas right? Lots of desert? But isnt like 120 F there?:shock:

Steady Eddy
07-24-2009, 09:17 AM
Thanx! Arizona,yes thats between Cali and Texas right? Lots of desert? But isnt like 120 F there?:shock:Yes, you'll know you're not in Sweden anymore. But I'm of Norwegian stock out of Minnesota and I love it here. It's a dry heat, and that makes a HUGE difference. Play at night, when the sun goes down and it 'cools down' to 100 degrees, and it's fine. (I don't play in the middle of winter, when it gets below 60 degrees I think it's too cold. :) )

BTW, we're not nearly as expensive as California.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:19 AM
Yes, you'll know you're not in Sweden anymore. But I'm of Norwegian stock out of Minnesota and I love it here. It's a dry heat, and that makes a HUGE difference. Play at night, when the sun goes down and it 'cools down' to 100 degrees, and it's fine. (I don't play in the middle of winter, when it gets below 60 degrees I think it's too cold. :) )

BTW, we're not nearly as expensive as California.
I see,thanx. Very interesting...BUT..."cools down to 100 degrees"...is that a joke or are u serious??:shock: I can imagine, scottsdale and phoenix is in Arizona,no?

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:27 AM
I was wondering about another thing,not so much about tennis this one lol, but still it has to do with America...so here it goes: I saw lots of pretty black women when i was in USA and i have to say they made me very interested,and they also seemed to like me, this may sound very stupid but i dont know USA like some of you do but...is there any particular state that is easier or where it is more common for white men to hook up with black women? Again this may sound stupid because of the language-barrier but still, some of you must know what i mean!?:-?

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 09:32 AM
I know, and everyone in Scandinavia now says-"look at the Finns,we should have done what they do"...(in silence)

And your political establishment calls Finland racist for this. maybe they learned that from American politicians.

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 09:33 AM
I was wondering about another thing,not so much about tennis this one lol, but still it has to do with America...so here it goes: I saw lots of pretty black women when i was in USA and i have to say they made me very interested,and they also seemed to like me, this may sound very stupid but i dont know USA like some of you do but...is there any particular state that is easier or where it is more common for white men to hook up with black women? Again this may sound stupid because of the language-barrier but still, some of you must know what i mean!?:-?

It's not common but it's not illegal here.

mikeler
07-24-2009, 09:35 AM
I was wondering about another thing,not so much about tennis this one lol, but still it has to do with America...so here it goes: I saw lots of pretty black women when i was in USA and i have to say they made me very interested,and they also seemed to like me, this may sound very stupid but i dont know USA like some of you do but...is there any particular state that is easier or where it is more common for white men to hook up with black women? Again this may sound stupid because of the language-barrier but still, some of you must know what i mean!?:-?


It is not a big deal in the more progressive cities, but you'll raise eyebrows in the deep South!

Eddy is not kidding about 100 degrees at night either.

The club I play at is $195/year and most of the courts are Har-Tru. Hard to beat that deal.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:36 AM
And your political establishment calls Finland racist for this. maybe they learned that from American politicians.
Yes. That my friend,i do not know about.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:36 AM
It's not common but it's not illegal here.
Well i knew it wasnt illegal ,just wondering...alright thanks.

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 09:37 AM
It is not a big deal in the more progressive cities, but you'll raise eyebrows in the deep South!

Eddy is not kidding about 100 degrees at night either.

The club I play at is $195/year and most of the courts are Har-Tru. Hard to beat that deal.

You'll raise Eyebrows in East new york Brooklyn too.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:38 AM
It is not a big deal in the more progressive cities, but you'll raise eyebrows in the deep South!

Eddy is not kidding about 100 degrees at night either.

The club I play at is $195/year and most of the courts are Har-Tru. Hard to beat that deal.
I see, so the south is more conservative and narrow-minded?
100 degrees is more than its ever been during midday in Sweden!:shock:
How much can you play? How about my deal, i play as much as i want for free:)

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:39 AM
You'll raise Eyebrows in East new york Brooklyn too.
Really? I thought noone would care in a big city like NYC...

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 09:40 AM
I see, so the south is more conservative and narrow-minded?
100 degrees is more than its ever been during midday in Sweden!:shock:
How much can you play? How about my deal, i play as much as i want for free:)

The south is terrible. never go there.

pmerk34
07-24-2009, 09:42 AM
Really? I thought noone would care in a big city like NYC...

NYC is big and has lot of racially segregated area's. There are racist liberals and non racist but race conscious liberals all over NY. The same goes for conservative places.

mikeler
07-24-2009, 09:43 AM
I see, so the south is more conservative and narrow-minded?
100 degrees is more than its ever been during midday in Sweden!:shock:
How much can you play? How about my deal, i play as much as i want for free:)


Yes, they are little behind the times with their thinking. I went to school in the South and was happy to leave there.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:44 AM
The south is terrible. never go there.
Really? Why? Now i feel confused...can you tell me?

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 09:45 AM
Yes, they are little behind the times with their thinking. I went to school in the South and was happy to leave there.
I see...But i have heard phrases like the south will rise again and the south is blooming etc...Just bs then?

gatorbait01
07-24-2009, 10:01 AM
I love the south and southern folk. There's a reason why you hear the phrase southern hospitality. I can't lie though, black and white relationships will draw lots of stares. I still think that goes for most of the country, however. You really just don't see it much, so it might seem weird to some people.

My wife is hispanic and we've not had any backlash, funny looks, or anything to speak of. The color diffeence is vey slight though.

conditionZero
07-24-2009, 10:33 AM
The south is terrible. never go there.

That's a ridiculous thing to say. The South, like everywhere, is comprised of many types of people and places. That's the exact narrow-minded, biased attitude that you would criticize a southerner for having.

By the way, don't go to Long Island. It's full of self-important, arrogant snobs.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 10:40 AM
That's a ridiculous thing to say. The South, like everywhere, is comprised of many types of people and places. That's the exact narrow-minded, biased attitude that you would criticize a southerner for having.

By the way, don't go to Long Island. It's full of self-important, arrogant snobs.
Sounds as if your "advices" to me is pointed against eachother...

mikeler
07-24-2009, 10:46 AM
Sounds as if your "advices" to me is pointed against eachother...


New Yorkers tend to be less friendly and more abrasive. There is something to be said for Southern and mid/western charm.

Sleepstream
07-24-2009, 10:49 AM
Atlanta seems to be a fine place. The only thing terrible about it can be the traffic. It also seems like an excellent place for tennis.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-24-2009, 10:52 AM
Atlanta seems to be a fine place. The only thing terrible about it can be the traffic. It also seems like an excellent place for tennis.
Wow...i really need to do some more studying on USA...i have heard that Atlanta is really dangerous if you happen to be white...Guess ill just have to go there and create my own opinion.

mikeler
07-24-2009, 11:04 AM
Atlanta is supposed to be terrific for tennis from everything I hear.

Sleepstream
07-24-2009, 12:06 PM
Wow...i really need to do some more studying on USA...i have heard that Atlanta is really dangerous if you happen to be white...Guess ill just have to go there and create my own opinion.

Usually the downtown areas are known to be somewhat dangerous, but around the various metro cities, I haven't seen or heard anything dangerous.

When I move there, I'll be living less than a half-mile from a tennis club, and if that weren't there, the city park has plenty of tennis courts. Most of the neighborhoods have at least one tennis court.

Steady Eddy
07-24-2009, 03:40 PM
I see,thanx. Very interesting...BUT..."cools down to 100 degrees"...is that a joke or are u serious??:shock: I can imagine, scottsdale and phoenix is in Arizona,no?Yes, but it's a dry heat. 100 degrees here is nothing like 100 degrees in Miami, Houston, or Sweden, (what would that be in Centegrade? About 38 C ?). Scottdale is indeed in AZ, (as is Phoenix), so you've probably played that tournament that's held in Scottsdale.

BTW, it's also not summer year round. The winter's are very pleasant, esp February and March, which are really awful up north. As a package, the weather is very good, esp for normal people who can't afford place like San Diego or Hawaii.

shell
07-24-2009, 10:04 PM
Oh good grief. Majic, you will be fine anywhere in the US you go. There are differences by region, no different than in Europe. Big cities tend to be more liberal, small towns tend to be more conservative. The weather varies by region, but summers are warm/hot/humid/dry heat by state or region. Nothing extreme until you get to the northern winters.

I hope you will consider it. You will not stand out as different most places you go, unless you settle in a small town that doesn't get too many foriegn visitors, and I can't imagine you would want that because the tennis would also suffer.

Gosh, we are not really that different than any other country :) that has a similar economic background or history.

Don't be put off by the exteme posts. The US is similar in quality of life to most other developed countries. We have our issues, and we have our strengths. Sounds like you would love to come visit for a while. I would encourage you to do so. :)

wasta
07-25-2009, 01:26 AM
Gosh, we are not really that different than any other country :) that has a similar economic background or history.

Yes, you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww


Only. In. America.

rommil
07-25-2009, 04:27 AM
I know i didnt see the uglier side of America as i told another poster, im aware of that,but i can only talk about what i experienced.I was in Missouri,Illinois,Kentucky,NYC,and Connecticut...I just loved NYC,felt sort of magic to be there, the pulse was so high the food was tantastic but the ppl seemed very occupied. Kentucky and Illinois was sooo hot...But really nice places,Missouri seemed a bit...that they maybe were not following the rest of the country? Left behind? And connecticiut reminded me very much of Sweden actually. Well, i wouldnt mind emigrate to USA, but it would take me forever to decide WHERE in USA i would move.

Yay Connecticut got represented lol. I hope it wansn't the Ikea in New Haven that made that reminder lol. Ct is nice but it can get boring yet we are close to NYC and Boston. Where in Ct did you go? Now I have to go to Sweden to see if it's true lol. Just kidding.....but I would like to go all to the Scandinavian countries eventually, been to Iceland twice. Next time you come around let me know we can hit at Yale where they play the Pilot Pen.

shell
07-25-2009, 04:43 AM
Yes, you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww


Only. In. America.

Oh my....maybe you have a point :shock: Maybe she was just nervous :oops:

slice bh compliment
07-25-2009, 05:22 AM
Nice thread. I love America. And I'm from here.

It's a big, scary country, and like anything else, you take the good with the bad. But, for the most part, it's really friendly people and a good climate (or at least good facilities).

The college tennis scene, as well as the futures and satellites scene here is great. At least that was my experience in the 80s and early 90s.

The women are just wonderful, though I'm souring a little bit on the Paris Hilton culture right now. OMG! Drama for your mama! Amazing! Epic!

Like anything, home is where the heart is, and if your heart is in the right place, the rest of the stuff takes care of itself.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-25-2009, 06:03 AM
Nice thread. I love America. And I'm from here.

It's a big, scary country, and like anything else, you take the good with the bad. But, for the most part, it's really friendly people and a good climate (or at least good facilities).

The college tennis scene, as well as the futures and satellites scene here is great. At least that was my experience in the 80s and early 90s.

The women are just wonderful, though I'm souring a little bit on the Paris Hilton culture right now. OMG! Drama for your mama! Amazing! Epic!

Like anything, home is where the heart is, and if your heart is in the right place, the rest of the stuff takes care of itself.

Thank you, very nice reply. It seemed so genuine at least where i was, i just loved the atmosphere and the ppl.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-25-2009, 06:05 AM
Yay Connecticut got represented lol. I hope it wansn't the Ikea in New Haven that made that reminder lol. Ct is nice but it can get boring yet we are close to NYC and Boston. Where in Ct did you go? Now I have to go to Sweden to see if it's true lol. Just kidding.....but I would like to go all to the Scandinavian countries eventually, been to Iceland twice. Next time you come around let me know we can hit at Yale where they play the Pilot Pen.
Make sure you bring warm clothes:) No i was thinking more of that Ct reminded me of Sweden when it comes to the nature and climate:)
Sure,if i end up in Ct ill give you a "post".

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-25-2009, 06:07 AM
Yes, but it's a dry heat. 100 degrees here is nothing like 100 degrees in Miami, Houston, or Sweden, (what would that be in Centegrade? About 38 C ?). Scottdale is indeed in AZ, (as is Phoenix), so you've probably played that tournament that's held in Scottsdale.

BTW, it's also not summer year round. The winter's are very pleasant, esp February and March, which are really awful up north. As a package, the weather is very good, esp for normal people who can't afford place like San Diego or Hawaii.
Sounds very appealing indeed,although the temperature freaks me out... i love the sun but...hey im from Sweden:) Lots of recreational places there right?

slice bh compliment
07-25-2009, 07:34 AM
Thank you, very nice reply. It seemed so genuine at least where i was, i just loved the atmosphere and the ppl.

You know, your posts are really important for Americans to hear. We pride ourselves on our freedom to rag the heck out of our own country...but we appreciate our place. And in the end, it is really nice to know other appreciate it too.

Thank you. I hope you find a good place here.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
07-25-2009, 07:59 AM
You know, your posts are really important for Americans to hear. We pride ourselves on our freedom to rag the heck out of our own country...but we appreciate our place. And in the end, it is really nice to know other appreciate it too.

Thank you. I hope you find a good place here.
I see,never thought about that i was just being spontaneous and honest:)
I really did appreciate it, different places had different charms about it so if i ever gonna emmigrate to the US it will be soo hard to decide where...

Steady Eddy
07-25-2009, 05:43 PM
Sounds very appealing indeed,although the temperature freaks me out... i love the sun but...hey im from Sweden:) Lots of recreational places there right?
Where's "there"? Sweden or AZ? Anyhow the mountains are only an hour away from Phoenix. Go there in the summer to escape the heat, or go there in the winter to ski.

Raid
07-25-2009, 06:11 PM
Oh my....maybe you have a point :shock: Maybe she was just nervous :oops:

or maybe she does not have a map either :shock: hahahah

dennis10is
07-28-2009, 07:52 AM
Yes, you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww


Only. In. America.

I wasn't paying attention to what she was saying.

I have a better solution. I think that women with ample mammary glands and ample buttock should have non-permanent tatoos of useful, patriotic factoids so that we can be educated.

If I'm in a bar, I can stare at a buxom blonde's best assets, and it will tell me the capital of Indiana is..., or how a bill becomes a law.

If this works, attractive women can be drafted to have all sorts of educational information tattooed all over their bodies and we can all have eduational experiences.

I confess I have a low IQ, hence I would need repeated sessions to retain anything in this thick skull of mine.

Hi Jennifer, this is Dennis, yeah, I can see you body again. I didn't quite get all that stuff about the Declaration of Independence. Are you free tonite for another patriotism class?

slice bh compliment
07-28-2009, 08:44 AM
Got it bad, got it bad, got it bad. ^He's hot for teacher!^
Got it bad, soooo bad. He's hot for teacherrr.

[middle period Van Halen reference]

dennis10is
07-28-2009, 05:42 PM
Got it bad, got it bad, got it bad. ^He's hot for teacher!^
Got it bad, soooo bad. He's hot for teacherrr.

[middle period Van Halen reference]

You mean the Golden Age of Van Halen

pmerk34
07-28-2009, 07:30 PM
You mean the Golden Age of Van Halen

They sold more Albums with Hager who wasn't a sleazy sex obsessed slimeball as much as that creep Roth.

Oldracquet27
08-01-2009, 07:12 AM
I think it's sad that you're so blind to see how socially decrepid your country has become, and how much a product of ignorance you are...
Thanks largely to the educational and religious structures prevalent in the USA...

I don't know what country you are for, the only thing i hope is at the moment you wrote this message you are not in USA territory ( that would be sad man! ).... You can keep using tenniswarehouse ( a cool place created in AMERICA where tennis lovers can communicate) you know, so many cool things created here, you know.....