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CountryHillbilly
08-05-2009, 09:40 PM
So, what is it? Grass or hard. He's got more Wimbys than USOpen titles, but the field on grass is very weak. Nadal and Roddick are the only major players there who can challenge Fed. Hard courts are as dense as ever nowadays.

It think it's fast HCs. What do you think?

backhand winner
08-05-2009, 09:43 PM
I think it is grass. His movement and serve spins work great on grass.

GameSampras
08-05-2009, 09:44 PM
I'll say the USO.. I dont think Fed is as good on grass as he is there regardless of his wimbeldon titles as well

egn
08-05-2009, 09:48 PM
fast hardcourts work best. He was also really good on slow slow clay oddly..look at all those hamburg titles.

Carsomyr
08-05-2009, 09:59 PM
He's lost more sets in his five USO title runs than his six Wimbledons.

FedFan_2009
08-05-2009, 10:03 PM
Definitely grass because he has less competition there.

jamesblakefan#1
08-05-2009, 10:06 PM
He's lost more sets in his five USO title runs than his six Wimbledons.

Good stat there. I think it is grass as well. He had a 65 match win streak on grass up until last yr, and as of now has won 72 of 73 on grass. The longest he's gone on HC is 56 matches, which is still impressive.

Plus I think his game suits grass better. Even slowed down grass is faster than fast HC, which is why I think his game suits Wimbledon so well.

goyeji
08-05-2009, 10:08 PM
Definitely not HC, thank god the hardcourt season is over. Oh wait...:lol:

Fedace
08-05-2009, 10:12 PM
Fat Woman's belly blubber.

goyeji
08-05-2009, 10:16 PM
Fat Woman's belly blubber.

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CountryHillbilly
08-05-2009, 10:16 PM
Good stat there. I think it is grass as well. He had a 65 match win streak on grass up until last yr, and as of now has won 72 of 73 on grass. The longest he's gone on HC is 56 matches, which is still impressive.

Plus I think his game suits grass better. Even slowed down grass is faster than fast HC, which is why I think his game suits Wimbledon so well.

But, who can play on grass today? Djoko and DelPo suck on grass, Murray is much better on hardcourts. Safin and Gonzalez are bad on grass. Not much competition there. Nadal was not that good on grass until 2007.

jamesblakefan#1
08-05-2009, 10:21 PM
But, who can play on grass today? Djoko and DelPo suck on grass, Murray is much better on hardcourts. Safin and Gonzalez are bad on grass. Not much competition there. Nadal was not that good on grass until 2007.

Roddick and Hewitt are both above average grass court players, despite what some of their detractors would want you to believe. He's beaten Hewitt twice, and Roddick 4x for his 6 Wimby titles.

CountryHillbilly
08-05-2009, 10:24 PM
Roddick and Hewitt are both above average grass court players, despite what some of their detractors would want you to believe. He's beaten Hewitt twice, and Roddick 4x for his 6 Wimby titles.

Hewitt wasn't on his game for a long time now. Roddick is better than his reputation but this year was the first time he had a chance against Roger.

The hardcourt field is much, much deeper than grass.

Or is it? Fed beat guys like Safin, Gonzalez and Baghdatis who are probably not as good on HC as Roddick is on grass.

Noveson
08-05-2009, 11:06 PM
Woops pushed the wrong button. Never had that actually happen before. Fast hardcourt for me

nfor304
08-05-2009, 11:15 PM
Federer is the best hardcourt player of all time, and he is not the best grass or clay player of all time.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-05-2009, 11:23 PM
So, what is it? Grass or hard. He's got more Wimbys than USOpen titles, but the field on grass is very weak. Nadal and Roddick are the only major players there who can challenge Fed. Hard courts are as dense as ever nowadays.

It think it's fast HCs. What do you think?
Great question, tough to say...but i voted grass.

timnz
08-06-2009, 02:51 AM
Even slowed down grass is faster than fast HC, which is why I think his game suits Wimbledon so well.

I'm not sure that it is, I would have to say that the US Open is a faster surface than Wimbledon at the moment. I do agree though that there are different perspectives on this.

maximo
08-06-2009, 02:54 AM
Since he won RG convincingly, i picked clay.

Tiberius
08-06-2009, 03:01 AM
Fat Woman's belly blubber.

Yeah, its the same stuff you got in your head.

sh@de
08-06-2009, 03:29 AM
Very close between grass and fast HC's. I chose grass.

dragonfire
08-06-2009, 03:37 AM
federer's best surface is clay, its only there are better clay players than him around. AKA nadal

dropserve
08-06-2009, 04:04 AM
If there wasn't Nadal, fed would have 5 RG and clay would have taken the same votes with HC and grass

FlamEnemY
08-06-2009, 04:11 AM
Fat Woman's belly blubber.

Hey, the big master needs a big workshop.

~ZoSo~
08-06-2009, 04:21 AM
Grass and clay
These absorb the tears better than hard

Tiberius
08-06-2009, 04:25 AM
Grass and clay
These absorb the tears better than hard

Try harder...

tintin
08-06-2009, 04:30 AM
all of them
i mean had it not been for Nadal he would have won a few more FO's
he owns on grass
he owns the USO
does pretty darn well in Australia

pame
08-06-2009, 04:43 AM
Fat Woman's belly blubber.

Good to know you were spent your first 9 months in a test tube and not a "fat woman's belly". Pshaw!

ninman
08-06-2009, 04:58 AM
Grass and clay
These absorb the tears better than hard

Yeah, Rafa must've felt so good after getting his *** handed to him by Soderling.

thetheorist
08-06-2009, 05:56 AM
haha maximo

clayman2000
08-06-2009, 06:07 AM
If you asked me this question 7 months ago, i would have said a HC no question. But after the slow HC season i am really starting to change my mind. He was getting beat up by Murray and Djokovic on slow HC. Their best surfaces are fast HC of the USO.

Federer isnt as good on a HC, because his defence isnt as good. Now people will call me crazy, and if i had said that 2 years ago you would be right (07 USO QF v Roddick), but now i think age has affected him most on a HC. That 1/2 step he is starting to loose makes its biggest effect on a HC.

This is the reason why i think if Roddick and Fed meet at the USO, Roddick wins. Simply because Feds defence at SW19 is much better than on a fast HC.

Overall, right now, Federers best surface is grass. His movement is on par with Nadal on clay. His defence to offence transition is stunning and his serve just springs off the court

Sartorius
08-06-2009, 06:59 AM
Right now, I think Federer is most comfortable on grass.

I think he was also as comfortable on hardcourts in the past, but I agree with clayman2000, with Federer being not as sharp as he used to be, and IMO with hardcourts being not what they used to be, he's less comfortable on HCs at the moment. Of course he's still fantastic on it and light years ahead of most players except obviously the top guys, but not quite the same as he was earlier.

rwn
08-06-2009, 07:03 AM
Grass and clay
These absorb the tears better than hard

Score: 1 out of 10. You´re slipping. I used to give you 2 out of 10. :-|

~ZoSo~
08-06-2009, 07:23 AM
Score: 1 out of 10. You´re slipping. I used to give you 2 out of 10. :-|

Not much to work with today

tomas9848
08-06-2009, 10:54 AM
more titles on hardcourt. but he is good on everything. but could be better on clay. :)

The-Champ
08-06-2009, 10:57 AM
Yeah, Rafa must've felt so good after getting his *** handed to him by Soderling.


yeah, he needed someone to take out the injured Nadal...otherwise...

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 10:59 AM
yeah, he needed someone to take out the injured Nadal...otherwise...
Kom igen nu...:) Han va inte skadad, myten säger att han va det men titta på Youtube, Söderling e en psykopat men ALLT stämde för han den dagen det fanns faktiskt inte mkt Nadal kunde göra...men ngt han gjorde var iallafall att springa som en galning, och sedan tränade han som en galning innan och under Wimbledon (min polare va där o har t.om filmat det) men plötsligt frog han sej ur...liiite skumt va?

maximo
08-06-2009, 11:03 AM
Kom igen nu...:) Han va inte skadad, myten säger att han va det men titta på Youtube, Söderling e en psykopat men ALLT stämde för han den dagen det fanns faktiskt inte mkt Nadal kunde göra...men ngt han gjorde var iallafall att springa som en galning, och sedan tränade han som en galning innan och under Wimbledon (min polare va där o har t.om filmat det) men plötsligt frog han sej ur...liiite skumt va?

I bet i know what you're saying without using any translators... :D

You are talking about when Soderling took the mic and picked his butt when playing Nadal at Wimbledon. :D

AM I RIGHT Magician!? :)

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 11:05 AM
I bet i know what you're saying without using any translators... :D

You are talking about when Soderling took the mic and picked his butt when playing Nadal at Wimbledon. :D

AM I RIGHT Magician!? :)
Lol, u r actually a funny guy, even though u r a Murray-fan, no i didnt, but it could have been!

Zeppy
08-06-2009, 11:05 AM
I would like to say grass. I don't know why to be honest, but I keep thinking that he grew up on grass and he started showing success there. Of course, I could be wrong.

CountryHillbilly
08-06-2009, 11:55 AM
Fed's opponents

1) Wimby finals

2003 - Philippoussis
2004,5,9 - Roddick
2006,7,8 - Nadal

2) USO finals

2004 - Hewitt
2005 - Agassi
2006 - Roddick
2007 - Djokovic
2008 - Murray

WHich was more difficult?

grafselesfan
08-06-2009, 11:57 AM
Fed's opponents

1) Wimby finals

2003 - Philippoussis
2004,5,9 - Roddick
2006,7,8 - Nadal

2) USO finals

2004 - Hewitt
2005 - Agassi
2006 - Roddick
2007 - Djokovic
2008 - Murray

WHich was more difficult?

I would say Wimbledon. Djokovic and Murray were in their first slam finals. Agassi was 35 years old. Nadal on a comfortable surface is by far the toughest opponent up to now. Philippoussis on grass isnt that different from Hewitt or Roddick on hard courts, he just peaked in an incredibly hard era of grass courters where someone like him wasnt going to win a Wimbledon against that group.