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TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 07:32 AM
Think about it, when someone says Roger Federer a lot of ppl associate him with Wimbledon right?? Id say that this is his most dominant slam, the GS where some of his absolute best tennis have come! He has played 5 finals and only lost 2 sets! During his 5 finals at Wimbledon 2003-2007 he lost 4 sets and was pushed a lot harder than he has ever been in NYC. Thought about this!?

dragonfire
08-06-2009, 07:40 AM
there are a lot of different variables for his success though. He might have played better grasscourt players than hardcourt players at wimbledon, forcing him to play tougher matches. He might have had easier draws in US open. Its hard to say, but yeah, only a few people have won sets in finals against him in US open

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 07:46 AM
there are a lot of different variables for his success though. He might have played better grasscourt players than hardcourt players at wimbledon, forcing him to play tougher matches. He might have had easier draws in US open. Its hard to say, but yeah, only a few people have won sets in finals against him in US open
Well, if we look at it your way that is really not the case, hes had to beat Roddick and Agassi at Us Open (who always played/plays their best tennis there) and a lot more players are better playing on HC than on grass since its a lot more common around the world and on the ATP-tour, and that makes Rogers achievments at the Us Open even more impressive according to me.

Sartorius
08-06-2009, 07:48 AM
It is very well known that he cares more about Wimbledon and it is actually where he's most successful at too (I think he's more comfortable there, 7 straight finals is also more dominant I'd say), so it's natural to associate him with Wimbledon.

But yes, sometimes one can easily forget that he played many memorable matches at USO, and has 5 in a row there as well, which is amazing. He probably loves playing matches at that humongous center court (especially at night). And people love him back, last year it showed.

drwood
08-06-2009, 07:52 AM
Its a lot harder to win multiple US Opens than multiple Wimbledons....the surface is less forgiving and there is much more competition.

Sampras could win Wimbledon when he wasn't 100% -- he could never get away with that at the US Open.

As great as Feds 21 consecutive GS SF or better streak is, I think winning 5 straight US Opens will never be duplicated. Only someone with remarkable physical conditioning and consistency can make a run like that at the US Open for 5+ years (i.e. Federer, Lendl).

Aabye
08-06-2009, 07:54 AM
Think about it, when someone says Roger Federer a lot of ppl associate him with Wimbledon right?? Id say that this is his most dominant slam, the GS where some of his absolute best tennis have come! He has played 5 finals and only lost 2 sets! During his 5 finals at Wimbledon 2003-2007 he lost 4 sets and was pushed a lot harder than he has ever been in NYC. Thought about this!?

I agree, which is why when someone posted the thread about a hypothetical H2H between Federer and Sampras, I felt that Sampras might have the edge on grass, but Federer would take him down at the USO. For whatever reason, the guy just seems to thrive on the speed of Flushing Meadow's courts.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 07:57 AM
It is very well known that he cares more about Wimbledon and it is actually where he's most successful at too (I think he's more comfortable there, 7 straight finals is also more dominant I'd say), so it's natural to associate him with Wimbledon.

But yes, sometimes one can easily forget that he played many memorable matches at USO, and has 5 in a row there as well, which is amazing. He probably loves playing matches at that humongous center court (especially at night). And people love him back, last year it showed.
Maybe he cares more about Wimbledon, i guess that is true but i think some of his best tennis has been in NYC. Well since Wimby is before Us Open in the scheduele its always gonna be that way, i see him winning 6 straight. The crowd in NYC is crazy about him. Cant blame them though

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 07:59 AM
Its a lot harder to win multiple US Opens than multiple Wimbledons....the surface is less forgiving and there is much more competition.

Sampras could win Wimbledon when he wasn't 100% -- he could never get away with that at the US Open.

As great as Feds 21 consecutive GS SF or better streak is, I think winning 5 straight US Opens will never be duplicated. Only someone with remarkable physical conditioning and consistency can make a run like that at the US Open for 5+ years (i.e. Federer, Lendl).
Definetely, you wouldnt see Sampras losing to Yzaga at the 1994 Wimby even though he played terrible. That could happen at the Us Open. In Wimby he can sort of slide through,cruise you know, at Us Open he has to battle it out.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 08:02 AM
I agree, which is why when someone posted the thread about a hypothetical H2H between Federer and Sampras, I felt that Sampras might have the edge on grass, but Federer would take him down at the USO. For whatever reason, the guy just seems to thrive on the speed of Flushing Meadow's courts.
Absolutely, well, one can always (and probably always will) speculate about Feds and Sampras h2h on different surfaces, it makes it interesting, but i DO NOT see Pete beating Roger at Flushing Meadows. I think the crowd gives him another level aswell, in Wimbledon the crowd is 58 year old business-men with their wifes, in NYC it seems (i have visited both Wimby and Us Open) that here are much more "tennis-people" in the crowd. I might be wrong though, its a hell of a big place:)

FredMurray
08-06-2009, 08:17 AM
Federer has lost more sets at the us open, than at his favorite slam Wimbledon.


From 2003 to the present:

US OPEN = Lost 17 sets

Wimbledon = Lost 15 sets

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 08:20 AM
Federer has lost more sets at the us open, than at his favorite slam Wimbledon.


From 2003 to the present:

US OPEN = Lost 17 sets

Wimbledon = Lost 15 sets
I know, but i was talking about the finals.

AprilFool
08-06-2009, 08:26 AM
Think about it, when someone says Roger Federer a lot of ppl associate him with Wimbledon right?? Id say that this is his most dominant slam, the GS where some of his absolute best tennis have come! He has played 5 finals and only lost 2 sets! During his 5 finals at Wimbledon 2003-2007 he lost 4 sets and was pushed a lot harder than he has ever been in NYC. Thought about this!?

Agreed. I also think he's made more "magical" shots at the Open as well.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 08:29 AM
Agreed. I also think he's made more "magical" shots at the Open as well.
Yeah, that might be so...absolutely

FedFan_2009
08-06-2009, 08:31 AM
He'll be the first player to win any tournament 6 straight times!

FredMurray
08-06-2009, 08:39 AM
Agreed. I also think he's made more "magical" shots at the Open as well.

I agree, I think its because he's under less pressure at the us open.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 08:41 AM
I agree, I think its because he's under less pressure at the us open.
Interesting thought, but i would say that he is in control more in Us Open:) Just kidding, its what u said. Less pressure in Uso.

FedFan_2009
08-06-2009, 08:47 AM
Especially NOW there is even less pressure.

raffi!
08-06-2009, 10:46 AM
I liked it when Roger wore all black.

BAMF.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 10:47 AM
I liked it when Roger wore all black.

BAMF.
Darth Fed, yeah that outfit was awesome, in 2007.

stanfordtennis alum
08-06-2009, 10:51 AM
he's had the most success at the US Open, but he loves wimbledon and the rich tradition that it carries..

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 10:55 AM
he's had the most success at the US Open, but he loves wimbledon and the rich tradition that it carries..
Well, so far he has had more sucess at Wimby, but at the end of his career i think Us Open will be at the top for him. He looks so sharp there!

Zeppy
08-06-2009, 11:15 AM
Why wouldn't he love the Us Open and NYC? He has a lot of success there and I suppose the crowd there supports him. That doesn't mean he loves the Us Open more than Wimbledon.

And where did you get this fact?

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 11:18 AM
Why wouldn't he love the Us Open and NYC? He has a lot of success there and I suppose the crowd there supports him. That doesn't mean he loves the Us Open more than Wimbledon.

And where did you get this fact?
He has said several times that he loves the Us Open, if u read my intro that will answer ur question. I got it from something called the Internet.

Zeppy
08-06-2009, 11:25 AM
He has said several times that he loves the Us Open, if u read my intro that will answer ur question. I got it from something called the Internet.

Think about it, when someone says Roger Federer a lot of ppl associate him with Wimbledon right?? Id say that this is his most dominant slam, the GS where some of his absolute best tennis have come! He has played 5 finals and only lost 2 sets! During his 5 finals at Wimbledon 2003-2007 he lost 4 sets and was pushed a lot harder than he has ever been in NYC. Thought about this!?

I don't believe you mentioned anything about the internet on your original post. But I meant no offense, I was just curious on where you got the fact.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 11:27 AM
I don't believe you mentioned anything about the internet on your original post. But I meant no offense, I was just curious on where you got the fact.
Thats alright, what i meant was that when ppl hear about Roger Federer (common ppl on the street) they think oh yeah the Wimbledon-champ, i was just trying to make a point that has almost been forgotten a little bit that he has actually dominated the Us Open finals like crazy, he hasnt even been as dominant in Wimbledson-finals as he has in Us Open, that pretty much was the point.

Zeppy
08-06-2009, 11:30 AM
Thats alright, what i meant was that when ppl hear about Roger Federer (common ppl on the street) they think oh yeah the Wimbledon-champ, i was just trying to make a point that has almost been forgotten a little bit that he has actually dominated the Us Open finals like crazy, he hasnt even been as dominant in Wimbledson-finals as he has in Us Open, that pretty much was the point.

You may have a point there. I think I am one of those people who would associate Federer to Wimbledon first.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 11:31 AM
You may have a point there. I think I am one of those people who would associate Federer to Wimbledon first.
Thank you. Yes,most ppl do, maybe its because Wimbledon is more famous worldwide? I dont know.

FredMurray
08-06-2009, 11:33 AM
Thats alright, what i meant was that when ppl hear about Roger Federer (common ppl on the street) they think oh yeah the Wimbledon-champ, i was just trying to make a point that has almost been forgotten a little bit that he has actually dominated the Us Open finals like crazy, he hasnt even been as dominant in Wimbledson-finals as he has in Us Open, that pretty much was the point.

To be fair though, he has played 2 first time slam finalists, in his last 2 Us Open finals.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 11:35 AM
To be fair though, he has played 2 first time slam finalists, in his last 2 Us Open finals.
He has, but that is something he has no control over, and in order to be in a Us Open final u have to be a hell of a player.

theroleoftheunderdog
08-06-2009, 11:36 AM
the us open is definitely a slam thats harder to consistently perform great at compared to wimbledon. its later in the year, many players might suffer from injuries. its not a specialist surface. the last weekend also makes it difficult. i would say his 5 us opens are a bigger feat than 5 in a row at wimbledon.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-06-2009, 11:37 AM
the us open is definitely a slam thats harder to consistently perform great at compared to wimbledon. its later in the year, many players might suffer from injuries. its not a specialist surface. the last weekend also makes it difficult. i would say his 5 us opens are a bigger feat than 5 in a row at wimbledon.
Yes, i am sharing that opinion with you!