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wasta
08-07-2009, 12:03 PM
:( I think this might be the last post from me on this forum. :(

Sartorius
08-07-2009, 12:06 PM
Where did you hear that it's serious?..

jamesblakefan#1
08-07-2009, 12:10 PM
Yeah, I hadn't seen it quoted as being serious anywhere.

jackcrawford
08-07-2009, 01:39 PM
Two-handed backhand players don't injure their elbow. He knows the beating Nadal will inflict on him if they play at Rogers, so it's time for the old fake an injury game.

FedFan_2009
08-07-2009, 01:44 PM
What? I call bs on this, no link.

Serendipitous
08-07-2009, 01:45 PM
What? I call bs on this, no link.

:cry::cry::cry::cry:

jevonclyde
08-07-2009, 01:49 PM
Two-handed backhand players don't injure their elbow. He knows the beating Nadal will inflict on him if they play at Rogers, so it's time for the old fake an injury game.

You think? Is injuring faking that serious an issue?

yung goon
08-07-2009, 01:52 PM
Nadals topspin finally caught up with soderling.

jevonclyde
08-07-2009, 01:53 PM
ANP mentioned on Dutch news website (www.nu.nl) that ROSOD pulled out due to an elbow injury. They didn't say how serious the injury was.

yung goon
08-07-2009, 01:55 PM
they said it on espn2 also. gilbert interviewed delpo he was soderlings opponent he had to pull out.

wasta
08-07-2009, 02:30 PM
here is the link (http://www.leggmasontennisclassic.com/news.aspx?news_id=200)

Topaz
08-07-2009, 02:44 PM
I was there, and very excited to watch this afternoon's matches, including Soderling's match. Based on what I've watched this week, I picked him to beat JMdP.

I got there really early. So early, in fact, that the *injured* Soderling was playing, on center court, with his coach Magnus Norman, at about 11:20am today. (I even got the on court clock in the pictures!)

Here are the pictures I took of him, approximately an hour before he pulled out with his...injury.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/3d9fb0f9.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/6a13ea48.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/4c4ef0ad.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/db0bfbdf.jpg

raiden031
08-07-2009, 02:46 PM
I was there, and very excited to watch this afternoon's matches, including Soderling's match. Based on what I've watched this week, I picked him to beat JMdP.

I got there really early. So early, in fact, that the *injured* Soderling was playing, on center court, with his coach Magnus Norman, at about 11:20am today. (I even got the on court clock in the pictures!)

Here are the pictures I took of him, approximately an hour before he pulled out with his...injury.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/3d9fb0f9.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/6a13ea48.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/4c4ef0ad.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/db0bfbdf.jpg

When I was there Saturday, Soderling was practicing at a minimum from 10am til 3pm, with at most an hour break during this. Definitely makes sense if he has an over-use injury because the guy will not stay off the court.

CCNM
08-07-2009, 03:05 PM
Oh my! and I thought Andy M was white....

TennisNinja
08-07-2009, 03:15 PM
Dude, Soderling is pasty as heck.

Lionheart392
08-07-2009, 03:36 PM
He has a nice physique though.

tintin
08-07-2009, 04:46 PM
he is ripped:shock:

BreakPoint
08-07-2009, 07:06 PM
Two-handed backhand players don't injure their elbow. He knows the beating Nadal will inflict on him if they play at Rogers, so it's time for the old fake an injury game.
I guess Soderling figured that if Nadal could fake an injury at their last meeting then so could he, right? :-?

sh@de
08-07-2009, 07:15 PM
Oh no, is it really bad? I'd love to see him give Nadal another spanking... :p

rafan
08-07-2009, 09:28 PM
I guess Soderling figured that if Nadal could fake an injury at their last meeting then so could he, right? :-?

Soderling starts to play for few tournaments and is out with an injury - well well. Check out both of their careers and just see how many "fake injuries" Nadal has in the past. I mean there must have been a lot for him to win as many tournaments he has done.... surely!

ubermeyer
08-07-2009, 10:05 PM
I was there, and very excited to watch this afternoon's matches, including Soderling's match. Based on what I've watched this week, I picked him to beat JMdP.

I got there really early. So early, in fact, that the *injured* Soderling was playing, on center court, with his coach Magnus Norman, at about 11:20am today. (I even got the on court clock in the pictures!)

Here are the pictures I took of him, approximately an hour before he pulled out with his...injury.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/3d9fb0f9.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/6a13ea48.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/4c4ef0ad.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/topaz720/LM09/db0bfbdf.jpg

uhmmm why is he practicing shirtless???

jamesblakefan#1
08-07-2009, 10:30 PM
uhmmm why is he practicing shirtless???

It is hot in DC during the summer...especially at around noon.

BreakPoint
08-07-2009, 11:11 PM
Soderling starts to play for few tournaments and is out with an injury - well well. Check out both of their careers and just see how many "fake injuries" Nadal has in the past. I mean there must have been a lot for him to win as many tournaments he has done.... surely!
Are you serious? Nadal has been one of the most chronically "injured" players on the ATP in history. How many Master's Cups, tournaments, and Davis Cup ties has he missed due to "injury"?

rafan
08-08-2009, 12:31 AM
Are you serious? Nadal has been one of the most chronically "injured" players on the ATP in history. How many Master's Cups, tournaments, and Davis Cup ties has he missed due to "injury"?

Absolute rubbish. Compared to Soderling's attempt at a tennis career there is no contest. Where has Soderling been all these years when Nadal was triumphant? It's about time Nadal did have a well deserved break. I'm not saying that Soderling isn't a good player - but he has yet to prove that he can handle the big tournaments with injury -like Nadal had to do for a long time - or without

babbette
08-08-2009, 01:31 AM
damn! Rafa misses his chance for revenge:cry:

Hopefully it's not just a tactic because he knows the unfixed draws will make it so he's in Rafa's half for US open so he wants to be fresh for that.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-08-2009, 01:33 AM
Where did you hear that it's serious?..
Its not serious, its just an over...how do u say this in English, he has practiced to much lately, he defaulted against Del Potro, he will not play in Montreal but he will be back in Cincy, i have a source but dont feel any need to post it since its in Swedish.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-08-2009, 01:35 AM
Absolute rubbish. Compared to Soderling's attempt at a tennis career there is no contest. Where has Soderling been all these years when Nadal was triumphant? It's about time Nadal did have a well deserved break. I'm not saying that Soderling isn't a good player - but he has yet to prove that he can handle the big tournaments with injury -like Nadal had to do for a long time - or without
Dont write anything about Soderling , ok? You dont know **** about him or his career, so really, dont.

babbette
08-08-2009, 01:38 AM
Dont write anything about Soderling , ok? You dont know **** about him or his career, so really, dont.
your right most of us don't know much about him because he didn't really do much to speak about unless Rafa helped him get the headlines; first at Wimbledon then French..:twisted:

So please educate us about his career by posting stats, all matches and achievements about Soderling.:)

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-08-2009, 01:41 AM
your right most of us don't know much about him because he didn't really do much to speak about unless Rafa helped him get the headlines; first at Wimbledon then French..:twisted:

So please educate us about his career by posting stats, all matches and achievements about Soderling.:)
Im sure you would be able to find it yourself, what i meant was that not lots of ppl know about his training-scheduele so they shouldnt start judging. In Sweden he has been seen as this great great talent but a mental midget who could go from happy to furious in 5 seconds, his coach was the same way but straightened out, so Soderling thought it would be a good idea hiring Magnus Norman, and it was.

CountryHillbilly
08-08-2009, 01:46 AM
Im sure you would be able to find it yourself, what i meant was that not lots of ppl know about his training-scheduele so they shouldnt start judging. In Sweden he has been seen as this great great talent but a mental midget who could go from happy to furious in 5 seconds, his coach was the same way but straightened out, so Soderling thought it would be a good idea hiring Magnus Norman, and it was.

So, since you're Swedish, do you have any inside info on Sods? Where was he all this time, is he as weird as some haters say he is? What's to be expected of him in the future?

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-08-2009, 02:04 AM
So, since you're Swedish, do you have any inside info on Sods? Where was he all this time, is he as weird as some haters say he is? What's to be expected of him in the future?
I guess i do.
He tried to find his game, and finally did it in Paris,played great in Wimbledon, won in Bastad, he has 24-4 in matches since the French!
No, he is not, he is MUCH weirder than ppl say, or at least used to be. Magnus Norman told him, if u have one maore tantrum or outburst u r on your own, and it worked,he doesnt get angry anymore on court and it helpes him a lot!
For the future, definetely top 10, he says his favourite-surface is HC, i could see him in the QF of Us Open and even in the YEC...

CountryHillbilly
08-08-2009, 02:10 AM
I guess i do.
He tried to find his game, and finally did it in Paris,played great in Wimbledon, won in Bastad, he has 24-4 in matches since the French!
No, he is not, he is MUCH weirder than ppl say, or at least used to be. Magnus Norman told him, if u have one maore tantrum or outburst u r on your own, and it worked,he doesnt get angry anymore on court and it helpes him a lot!
For the future, definetely top 10, he says his favourite-surface is HC, i could see him in the QF of Us Open and even in the YEC...

He'll probably make it Top 10 or Top 8 by year end. He can blow all one-dimensional players with his power. Fed is different story, too much quality and variety to be intimidated by raw power.

btw Was he really serious with that line call? When he pointed to another mark a mile off.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-08-2009, 02:14 AM
He'll probably make it Top 10 or Top 8 by year end. He can blow all one-dimensional players with his power. Fed is different story, too much quality and variety to be intimidated by raw power.

btw Was he really serious with that line call? When he pointed to another mark a mile off.
Nooooo of course not! Sarcasm

allcourter2008
08-08-2009, 02:20 AM
It's interesting how many Nadal fans posted here, it seems they are still not over Roland Garros...

Anyway, I think it's good that Soderling doesn't risk an injury in a smaller tournament like Legg Mason, he can gain a lot of points in the next few weeks. I think he lost in the first round of the US Open last year.

BTW, Soderling and Nadal are in the same part of the Montreal draw. I'm really looking forwards to that match.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-08-2009, 02:21 AM
It's interesting how many Nadal fans posted here, it seems they are still not over Roland Garros...

Anyway, I think it's good that Soderling doesn't risk an injury in a smaller tournament like Legg Mason, he can gain a lot of points in the next few weeks. I think he lost 1R in the US Open last year.

Soderling and Nadal are in the same part of the Montreal draw, I'm really looking forwards to that match.
Me to, yes he has huge loads of points to gain in the next few weeks, he could be 7-10 in the world after the Us Open

raiden031
08-08-2009, 02:56 AM
uhmmm why is he practicing shirtless???

Practically everybody was practicing shirtless when I was there. Most looked very ripped, although some were more on the skinny side. Definitely not too many sagging guts.

rafan
08-08-2009, 07:26 AM
Dont write anything about Soderling , ok? You dont know **** about him or his career, so really, dont.

I know as much as i want to about him thank you very much. I witnessed his disgusting behaviour at Wimbldeon two years ago and that spoke volumes - so don't tell me I know #### all about him !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Serendipitous
08-08-2009, 07:27 AM
Dont write anything about Soderling , ok? You dont know **** about him or his career, so really, dont.

Oh my God......:(

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-08-2009, 07:31 AM
I know as much as i want to about him thank you very much. I witnessed his disgusting behaviour at Wimbldeon two years ago and that spoke volumes - so don't tell me I know #### all about him !!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Wimbledon incident?? Nadal totally deserved that.

yung goon
08-08-2009, 07:41 AM
soderlings a good player but in general is a dick. nadal at wimbledon, nadal at rome when he obviously saw where the ball landed but circled the wrong one. hes one of the least liked players on the tour

フェデラー
08-08-2009, 07:43 AM
sexy youtek radical.

Serendipitous
08-08-2009, 07:44 AM
sexy youtek radical.

Say what? :)

raiden031
08-08-2009, 07:50 AM
soderlings a good player but in general is a dick. nadal at wimbledon, nadal at rome when he obviously saw where the ball landed but circled the wrong one. hes one of the least liked players on the tour

Well he was about as gracious in defeat at RG as I've ever seen a player. Most of the time I'm disappointed in what the players say about each other up there, but I was impressed with him. He might've acted like a jerk at times, but apparently not when it matters.

yung goon
08-08-2009, 07:51 AM
Well he was about as gracious in defeat at RG as I've ever seen a player. Most of the time I'm disappointed in what the players say about each other up there, but I was impressed with him. He might've acted like a jerk at times, but apparently not when it matters.

he was because he was just happy being there.

rafan
08-08-2009, 08:09 AM
The Wimbledon incident?? Nadal totally deserved that.

There is plenty of space for raquet throwing, the odd verbal outburst even with tennis players. It is an accepted fact that this will happen during the great tournaments. However calculated spitefulness is worrying. No Nadal did not deserve this from his opponent. It was enough for both players to be repeatedly sent off due to rain without the added stress of someone behaving like a circus performer to get himself noticed

jamesblakefan#1
08-08-2009, 08:26 AM
Oh Nadal fans...get over yourselves...:roll:

Nadal got made fun of and called out for his time wasting...boo freaking hoo, move on, cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it. Even Rafa's moved on, I don't see why his fans can't....still burning from that FO loss I see...

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-08-2009, 08:28 AM
Oh Nadal fans...get over yourselves...:roll:

Nadal got made fun of and called out for his time wasting...boo freaking hoo, move on, cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it. Even Rafa's moved on, I don't see why his fans can't....still burning from that FO loss I see...
Well said, couldnt agree more.

BreakPoint
08-08-2009, 11:06 AM
Absolute rubbish. Compared to Soderling's attempt at a tennis career there is no contest. Where has Soderling been all these years when Nadal was triumphant? It's about time Nadal did have a well deserved break. I'm not saying that Soderling isn't a good player - but he has yet to prove that he can handle the big tournaments with injury -like Nadal had to do for a long time - or without
Why don't you count how many times Nadal has withdrawn from a tournament due to injury versus how many times Soderling has done so? It's no contest. Please get a clue? Please?

namelessone
08-08-2009, 11:30 AM
Oh Nadal fans...get over yourselves...:roll:

Nadal got made fun of and called out for his time wasting...boo freaking hoo, move on, cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it. Even Rafa's moved on, I don't see why his fans can't....still burning from that FO loss I see...

Nope,Soderling chickened out on that one.He should have faced Nadal and should have gone to the umpire to complain about that.Instead,while Nadal was taking too long as usual,he did the "classy" thing and went to get a racket while Rafa was serving,IMPLYING that he should go faster.Rafa stuck with his usual routine and even got him back with the "new balls" bit.And then Soderling took it up a notch and mimicked Rafa's underwear routine.It was some of the most childish behaviour I have ever seen and I say this about both players.

Soderling and others that are bothered by Nadal's routines should man up and go to the umpire.And the umpire should man up and apply the time rule.But if you don't say anything,don't complain.If Rezano of the WTA complained about DeBrito's shrieks why don't ATP players do the same thing about Nadal?
And don't give me the "they shouldn't show any sign of weakness" argument.It's weak and you know it.If Nadal's time wasting is considered cheating/obnoxious behaviour,how can I stand there and take it over and over and over again?

Personallt I think Soderling did it because he knows Nadal likes his routines and tried to break his flow by messing with his mind.I didn't hear him complain in Rome and I didn't hear him complain in RG.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-08-2009, 11:30 AM
Why don't you count how many times Nadal has withdrawn from a tournament due to injury versus how many times Soderling has done so? It's no contest. Please get a clue? Please?
On this one, we totally agree.

rafan
08-08-2009, 11:34 AM
On this one, we totally agree.

Well I cannot recall many tournaments Soderling has played

TheMagicianOfPrecision
08-08-2009, 11:36 AM
Well I cannot recall many tournaments Soderling has played
That is probably because you started following tennis when Buttpicker became wellknown around the world, and you only heard about Soderling when he played Wimbledon against Nadal or when he bulldozed him at FO this year, no?

BreakPoint
08-08-2009, 11:41 AM
Well I cannot recall many tournaments Soderling has played
You sound like you're only a fan of Nadal, but not of tennis. Soderling has probably played more tournaments in his career than Nadal has.

wasta
08-08-2009, 04:09 PM
That is probably because you started following tennis when Buttpicker became wellknown around the world, and you only heard about Soderling when he played Wimbledon against Nadal or when he bulldozed him at FO this year, no?

Just an unrelated question for you TMOP since you seem to be in the know... Are there any promising swedish tennis talents right now?

1st Seed
08-08-2009, 04:29 PM
Put a full bed of Luxilon on and see how you're elbow feel's.Strings play a big role in TE.If he is hurting I have to take him out of my ATP draw against Philippe K.In Montreal.

TheSubdude
08-08-2009, 05:04 PM
Why does everyone think it's always some conspiracy?

Pretend you play for money and the final GS of the year is just around the corner. Pretend you've been playing really well lately. Pretend you're warming up at some 500 level tourney and your elbow starts hurting. Do you risk the GS for the 500?

The world is flat. Run with it.

Topaz
08-08-2009, 05:15 PM
Why does everyone think it's always some conspiracy?



Because I was there? And because I don't always believe everything someone in 'authority' tells me like a good little sheeple?

I'm telling you...NO sign of pain while he was hitting...at 11:20am before he pulled out of a 2:30pm match.

TheSubdude
08-08-2009, 05:20 PM
4,000 posts doesn't make you an expert, but I'll play. What's a good reason he would back out?

If this is where you say a world class player is scared to lose then you're the joke here.

OliverSimon
08-08-2009, 05:59 PM
It must be those polyester strings he's using!

raiden031
08-08-2009, 07:31 PM
Because I was there? And because I don't always believe everything someone in 'authority' tells me like a good little sheeple?

I'm telling you...NO sign of pain while he was hitting...at 11:20am before he pulled out of a 2:30pm match.

The idiot probably was finishing his 4 hour practice by noon and realized he had no energy left to actually play his 2:30 match so he defaulted with an "injury".

rafan
08-08-2009, 09:50 PM
You sound like you're only a fan of Nadal, but not of tennis. Soderling has probably played more tournaments in his career than Nadal has.

Your hatred of Nadal is pathetic - really. You cannot possibly be a tennis fan because you are incapable of logic. I couln't pick on Federer the way you pick on Nadal even though I am not a Federer fan. I mean does Federer really want a fan who is so in awe of him he is incapable of being objective? I think some of Nadal's service games in the past have been very below standard - and have put it on this website. Nadal has always been a staunch supporter of Federer - so just where does this hatred stem from?

BreakPoint
08-08-2009, 10:06 PM
Your hatred of Nadal is pathetic - really. You cannot possibly be a tennis fan because you are incapable of logic. I couln't pick on Federer the way you pick on Nadal even though I am not a Federer fan. I mean does Federer really want a fan who is so in awe of him he is incapable of being objective? I think some of Nadal's service games in the past have been very below standard - and have put it on this website. Nadal has always been a staunch supporter of Federer - so just where does this hatred stem from?
Um...how is stating a FACT like Soderling has played more tournaments in his career than Nadal has displaying ANY sort of "hate" towards Nadal? :confused:

That is a totally objective statement of fact. Numbers don't lie and they have no emotions. Look it up if you don't believe me. Nadal has played in 118 tournaments in his career while Soderling has played in 135.

You are obviously not a tennis fan because you seem to only know about Nadal and nothing else.