What religion are you?

[ubermeyer]

No hatred please.

Due to the limited number of poll options I was sometimes forced to put multiple religions in a single box.

[Lionheart392]

Agnostic. Not religious by any means. Basically I'm not gonna say 'God doesn't exist' because I have no way of knowing. At the same time, there's no way I'm gonna make all these restrictions in my life based on something that may or may not be real. I just live my life by my own rules and if there is something up there, I don't believe s/he is judging every single little thing you do anyway. Religion is manipulated by humans as a method of controlling people.

[VashTheStampede]

I am Christian. :)

[dave333]

Agnostic. I was atheist, then I went through some CRAZY **** (long story) and I promised if I got through it successfully, maybe God did exist.

I did.

[Topspin24]

Atheist, woot! Our group/section is surprisingly large though I don't believe this is an appropriate topic to be discussed.

[10sfreak]

^^^I don't see anything wrong with discussing the topic in this section of TT. I voted "Christian", but judging from the many posts in other threads, I expect that agnostics and atheists will far outnumber any theists on these boards.

[Sentinel]

Ack, most of hte agnostics/atheists rarely speak up (ok, trainer and morpheus do make rare guest appearances, lol), so you may not have high votes for them.

I was born a Hindu, don't follow any religion and don't wish to, but strongly believe in God.

[120mphBodyServe]

Atheist/New Age with a bit of pagan philosophy in there as well.
Religion was a devious scheme that was cooked up by people who wanted to control others and take advantage of their ignorance. And because they didn't understand anything about the universe or had a method of determining why things happen.
This method is called Science. If you're not into Science, you're a blockhead.
Thanks for listening...

[GeorgeLucas]

wdf im soulja boy-ist, son GET AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[CanadianChic]

wdf im soulja boy-ist, son GET AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You had your very first sip of alcohol tonight, eh?

[GPG]

Roman Catholic

[ubermeyer]

wdf im soulja boy-ist, son GET AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

that would fall under joke religions, or option #9

[120mphBodyServe]

Roman Catholic

EVERY SPERM IS SSAAACCCCRRRREEEEDDDD!!!!!!

[David_Is_Right]

that would fall under joke religions

All religions are a joke. A really bad one that keeps getting retold century after century, getting less and less funny each time.

[David_Is_Right]

EVERY SPERM IS SSAAACCCCRRRREEEEDDDD!!!!!!

OK, so you're chastising (sorry!) the guy for being a Catholic, but you advocate equally irrational and discredited baloney in your sig?

[ttbrowne]

Hey, Atheism has nothing to do with being a Satanist. Not in the same class. A Satanist worships a spiritual being, Satan.
Atheists worship nothing.

[TennisNinja]

I'm atheist. I'm not religious at all.

[game set match 46 TIMES!!]

Christian :)

[Claudius]

Everyone accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior.

[maximo]

The Poll options should have been writen out in the infinitive.

[Clydey2times]

I'm an atheist. Been one for years.

Atheism isn't a religion, though.

[GPG]

EVERY SPERM IS SSAAACCCCRRRREEEEDDDD!!!!!!

???

Didn't get your joke. But don't expect every catholic to be like this

http://www.thetrailingedge.com/images/products/dork.jpg


I just agree with what the religion I follow says. I do have disagreements with some stuff, but I still consider catholicism a good way to live life

[Lionheart392]

???

Didn't get your joke. But don't expect every catholic to be like this

http://www.thetrailingedge.com/images/products/dork.jpg


I just agree with what the religion I follow says. I do have disagreements with some stuff, but I still consider catholicism a good way to live life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8

It's a song lyric :)

[truthorbust]

Buddism isnt really a religion IMO.. its a stance/ philosophy more i think.

[S H O W S T O P P E R !]

Catholic, but not the kind that believes that God is watching all of us at the same time.

My belief is that God has more important things to deal with (AIDS, wars, etc.) than my want for more tennis stuff, so if you have food, clothes and a roof over your head, be happy for it.

[Giggs The Red Devil]

Capitalism.

[ubermeyer]

Hey, Atheism has nothing to do with being a Satanist. Not in the same class. A Satanist worships a spiritual being, Satan.
Atheists worship nothing.

I'm sorry, but due to the limited number of options, I put them in the same place. Baha'i and Rastafarianism are not really similar either.

However, you are wrong about Satanism. Satanism has a very negative connotation, but it is actually a misnomer. Satanism is a form of Atheism. The Satanist believes "he is his own God." Satanists tend to have lower moral standards than most other people, but they do not actually worship Satan. Those are devil-worshippers and I did not put an option for that on this thread because... well, I doubt there would be any actual devil-worshippers on here.

[ubermeyer]

I'm an atheist. Been one for years.

Atheism isn't a religion, though.

True, but I mean... what would you guys vote for then?

There are a TON of atheists on here.

[ubermeyer]

The Poll options should have been writen out in the infinitive.

eh... what does this mean?

[ubermeyer]

Buddism isnt really a religion IMO.. its a stance/ philosophy more i think.

No, it's a religion all right, with philosophy a major element of it. Some argue that it isn't... but that argument is pretty flawed

[120mphBodyServe]

I believe in the God of fried onions.
He wants me to eat more fried onions!!!!
:-P

[10sfreak]

I'm sorry, but due to the limited number of options, I put them in the same place. Baha'i and Rastafarianism are not really similar either.

However, you are wrong about Satanism. Satanism has a very negative connotation, but it is actually a misnomer. Satanism is a form of Atheism. The Satanist believes "he is his own God." Satanists tend to have lower moral standards than most other people, but they do not actually worship Satan. Those are devil-worshippers and I did not put an option for that on this thread because... well, I doubt there would be any actual devil-worshippers on here.[
Pfft! Have you not read any of the posts from the people who support the obamessiah?

[CanadianChic]

Daoist is on the list, but not Pagan? The one category (second last) seems to have too many vastly different ones clumped together.

[ubermeyer]

Daoist is on the list, but not Pagan? The one category (second last) seems to have too many vastly different ones clumped together.

Pagan is the Peyote/Animist/Shamanist category. Animism and Shamanism are the two forms of Paganism.

Why are Atheist/Agnostic/Nonreligious/Pastafarian/Scientology/Satanist "vastly different?" All are forms of not practicing religion.

Daoism isn't that uncommon.

Interesting that there are no Baha'i, Zoroastrians, or Rastafarians, maybe I should have put those into one category.

[nadalfan4life]

I am a pretty religious man, but does this need to be talked about on a tennis website?

[fed_the_savior]

I am a pretty religious man, but does this need to be talked about on a tennis website?

Believe it or not, right now on some religion forum they are talking about tennis. :shock::oops::confused:

[CanadianChic]

Pagan is the Peyote/Animist/Shamanist category. Animism and Shamanism are the two forms of Paganism.

Why are Atheist/Agnostic/Nonreligious/Pastafarian/Scientology/Satanist "vastly different?" All are forms of not practicing religion.

Daoism isn't that uncommon.

Interesting that there are no Baha'i, Zoroastrians, or Rastafarians, maybe I should have put those into one category.

There are actually four common types of Paganism and there is NeoPaganism which encompasses another slew of categories. To clump those who are uncertain of an existence of God but feel they are religious to some extent, to those who adore Satan, to those who do not believe in God, to those who worship an alien? I have never heard of Pastafarian. New age religions like Scientology and Kaballah do not seem to fit with the others. My opinion.

[ubermeyer]

There are actually four common types of Paganism and there is NeoPaganism which encompasses another slew of categories. To clump those who are uncertain of an existence of God but feel they are religious to some extent, to those who adore Satan, to those who do not believe in God, to those who worship an alien? I have never heard of Pastafarian. New age religions like Scientology and Kaballah do not seem to fit with the others. My opinion.

Agnostics are not religious to any extent. They are uncertain whether God exists but feel it does not affect them. If they thought God might exist, how could they be religious at all??? Pastafarianism is a joke religion. Satanists do not adore Satan, as I already stated. Rather, "Satanism has a very negative connotation, but it is actually a misnomer. Satanism is a form of Atheism. The Satanist believes "he is his own God." Satanists tend to have lower moral standards than most other people [due to some of the things in their "Bible], but they do not actually worship Satan. Those are devil-worshippers." - Me

There are other religions I didn't include (e.g. Aghori, John Frum-ism). I didn't think Neopaganism, and other religions I neglected to include, were common enough. My apologies. Are YOU Neopagan?

[CanadianChic]

Agnostics are not religious to any extent. They are uncertain whether God exists but feel it does not affect them. If they thought God might exist, how could they be religious at all??? Pastafarianism is a joke religion. Satanists do not adore Satan, as I already stated. Rather, "Satanism has a very negative connotation, but it is actually a misnomer. Satanism is a form of Atheism. The Satanist believes "he is his own God." Satanists tend to have lower moral standards than most other people [due to some of the things in their "Bible], but they do not actually worship Satan. Those are devil-worshippers." - Me

There are other religions I didn't include (e.g. Aghori, John Frum-ism). I didn't think Neopaganism, and other religions I neglected to include, were common enough. My apologies. Are YOU Neopagan?

No offense, but what I 'am' is my business. I am merely commenting on the poll. For example, a third of the world is Christian, which can be divided into at least a dozen or so dominant religions, yet they are listed as one. Merely observations.

As for Satanism, you are referring to the modern form which has only been recognized for maybe a half a century. The traditional Satanists did indeed worship Satan, or idols they associated with the being Satan. I understand you only have room for so many options in the poll, but Rastafarian? Although I suppose one could claim religious freedom the next time they are caught smoking weed.

You're up.

[wyutani]

communism.

[Sentinel]

Buddism isnt really a religion IMO.. its a stance/ philosophy more i think.

No, it's a religion all right, with philosophy a major element of it. Some argue that it isn't... but that argument is pretty flawed
I would think it depends on how one defines religion. The Buddha certainly wasn;t looking to start a religion with himself as the "saviour". He defined a path, and followers were expected to follow the path.

So if you are born to a Buddhist, but you don't follow the path, are you a Buddhist. What of all those who follow the path while "belonging" to another religion or being agnostic. There are thousands of westerners who practice Zen or Tibetan Buddhism, for example.

Today, Buddhism has become a religion, in the common definition of the term. People convert to Buddhism from another religion to escape oppression/discrimination of their current religion. Few follow the path that the Buddha laid out.

[aphex]

I believe in Atheus.

I am an Atheist.

[YULitle]

Agnostic. Not-religious.

Why lump "Satanist" with those? That makes zero sense.

[GuyClinch]

Atheist. Yes you can't prove god doesn't exist. But you can prove he does exist either. Agnostic is wishy washy. You can't prove that Poseidon doesn't exist but I doubt we have any Poseidon agnostics..

People in general don't believe in things that there is no evidence for. God is the 'exception' because people want it so much.

"I do not believe in God because I do not believe in Mother Goose."

[sureshs]

Sciencism.......

[Polaris]

Why lump "Satanist" with those? That makes zero sense.
Agreed. It reflects the inherent bias of the OP.

[r2473]

Tennis-arian.

I worship as often as possible.

[Mick]

Tennis-arian.

I worship as often as possible.

what is the name of the tennis God ? :)

[r2473]

what is the name of the tennis God ? :)

We of the faith feel that our god is hard to know and understand. A mystery really.

But, some days I feel really close to god. Other days..............other days I struggle with my faith.

[pabletion]

what is the name of the tennis God ? :)

PABLETION

You will not dare hit a let cord winner in his presence and not apologize.

[flyinghippos101]

I'm just wondering why you equate atheism with satanism... Is this really a friendly poll? Or are you making a statement?

[ubermeyer]

Agnostic. Not-religious.

Why lump "Satanist" with those? That makes zero sense.

Agreed. It reflects the inherent bias of the OP.

I'm just wondering why you equate atheism with satanism... Is this really a friendly poll? Or are you making a statement?

You people are sooo freaking annoying... do you even read any of the other posts? HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS:

Satanism has a very negative connotation, but it is actually a misnomer. Satanism is a form of Atheism. The Satanist believes "he is his own God." Satanists tend to have lower moral standards than most other people [due to some of the things in their "Bible], but they do not actually worship Satan. Those are devil-worshippers.

Satanism is a type of Atheism. Therefore, I put it in the same category. However, you'll notice that other unrelated religions, such as Baha'i and Rastafarianism, are also lumped together. The reason is that there are only 10 available poll options. So, using common sense, even if you believed Satanism was devil-worship, you would see I have no bias. For the record, my uncle, whom I love very much, is atheist, as are many of my friends.

[ubermeyer]

No offense, but what I 'am' is my business. I am merely commenting on the poll. For example, a third of the world is Christian, which can be divided into at least a dozen or so dominant religions, yet they are listed as one. Merely observations.

As for Satanism, you are referring to the modern form which has only been recognized for maybe a half a century. The traditional Satanists did indeed worship Satan, or idols they associated with the being Satan. I understand you only have room for so many options in the poll, but Rastafarian? Although I suppose one could claim religious freedom the next time they are caught smoking weed.

You're up.

Well, if what you "are" is your business, then why would you even click on this thread, as the whole purpose of it is to survey people as to the point of their religions. I also asked people to please not discriminate in this thread. I do not tolerate religious intolerance, and I imagine the moderators are no different, whether we're talking about Rastafarianism, Islam, or something else. Rastafarianism is not about smoking weed, although there are an unfortunate number of Rastas who do so.

As to Satanism, I am referring to the modern version. Does that finally clear that up? Perhaps it is an ambiguous term, but I am not aware of any other ways to describe LaVeyan Satanism. I regret including it in the poll.

Finally, about Christianity: Christianity is one religion. It cannot be divided into different religions. Christianity can, however, be divided into different "sub-religions" but they cannot be treated as separate religions as they are not. Lutherans, Catholics, Calvinists, Mormons, Quakers: they are all Christians. Islam and Judaism can be divided as well, as can Hinduism and several other religions. Nevertheless, my poll was asking about what everyone's religion is, not which denomination they follow, because denominations are not fundamentally different from each other as different religions are. Besides, if someone asks a Catholic if they are Christian, they don't say, "No, I'm Catholic!"

[YULitle]

You people are sooo freaking annoying... do you even read any of the other posts? HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS:

Satanism has a very negative connotation, but it is actually a misnomer. Satanism is a form of Atheism. The Satanist believes "he is his own God." Satanists tend to have lower moral standards than most other people [due to some of the things in their "Bible], but they do not actually worship Satan. Those are devil-worshippers.

Satanism is a type of Atheism. Therefore, I put it in the same category. However, you'll notice that other unrelated religions, such as Baha'i and Rastafarianism, are also lumped together. The reason is that there are only 10 available poll options. So, using common sense, even if you believed Satanism was devil-worship, you would see I have no bias. For the record, my uncle, whom I love very much, is atheist, as are many of my friends.

:shock:

Are you serious? Satanism is a form of atheism? Which of those two are you ignorant about, because it must be one or the other, or both.

To be "satanistic", or a follower of Satanism, you must acknowledge the the idea of "Satan," which is a manifestation of the Abrahamic religions.

What atheist, or agnostic, do you know who acknowledges ANY metaphysical being derived from the Abrahamic religions? :lol:

[ubermeyer]

:shock:

Are you serious? Satanism is a form of atheism? Which of those two are you ignorant about, because it must be one or the other, or both.

To be "satanistic", or a follower of Satanism, you must acknowledge the the idea of "Satan," which is a manifestation of the Abrahamic religions.

What atheist, or agnostic, do you know who acknowledges ANY metaphysical being derived from the Abrahamic religions? :lol:

Oh my goodness... Don't even try to argue with people when you are absolutely clueless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism

"LaVeyan Satanism does not involve devil worship, but rather uses "Satan" as a symbol of carnality and earthly values, of man's inherent nature."

I have stated that I was talking about this form of Satanism.

[Sentinel]

I am dyslexic. I believe in God.

[ubermeyer]

I am dyslexic. I believe in God.

What an effort for a dyslexic person, spelling all those words correctly. I commend you.

[VivalaVida]

Muslim, but I have a lot of doubts about the existence of god. However, there is no way in hell I am gonna ever let me parents find out about that. I will be in some serious trouble :D

[Sentinel]

What an effort for a dyslexic person, spelling all those words correctly. I commend you.
Yuo condemn me. Thakns atol.

[Sentinel]

Muslim, but I have a lot of doubts about the existence of god. However, there is no way in hell I am gonna ever let me parents find out about that. I will be in some serious trouble :D
why do you have doubts on the existence of God ??

Correct me if I am wrong ... Islam talks of God being formless. That makes Islam the only faith that clearly states that, whereas some other faiths speak of God both being with form but ultimately formless (Nirakar).

Now since God created form (and everything associated with form), therefore God cannot be expected to have form. The kind of "evidence" atheists and others are looking for is thus looking in the wrong place -- expecting to find some matter or energy etc which can be called God.

[mtommer]

Atheism isn't a religion, though.

No, but it is a belief that some Atheists religiously spout.

That belief I'm referring to is the belief that sufficient evidence does not exist to allow for the belief in God/the supernatural. Certainly not for themselves but as it is shown time and time again in multitudes of forums where religion gets discussed, not for anybody. Ie, people are fools to believe in religions and/or God.

[tudwell]

Atheist FTW!

[YULitle]

Oh my goodness... Don't even try to argue with people when you are absolutely clueless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism

"LaVeyan Satanism does not involve devil worship, but rather uses "Satan" as a symbol of carnality and earthly values, of man's inherent nature."

I have stated that I was talking about this form of Satanism.

You still don't get the idea. Atheism/Agnosticism don't involve any type of church, or deity, or principles by which to follow intrinsically. There's nothing to follow. No symbol. No person. No nothing. What they DO end up following defines their life beyond the singularity that is Atheism/Agnosticism.

Atheism either means a belief that there is no god or a disbelief in god. Agnosticism is for those who are either not certain, or claim that there is no way to know either way.

THAT'S IT. It doesn't go beyond that. Everything else beyond that is something else. Call LaVeyan Satanism atheism all you want, but it is missleading the group it with Atheism/Agnosticism when it has:
1. A book of rules
2. A list of sins
3. A "saint" or "prophet"
4. Even holidays!
That smacks of religion.

[CanadianChic]

Well, if what you "are" is your business, then why would you even click on this thread, as the whole purpose of it is to survey people as to the point of their religions. I also asked people to please not discriminate in this thread. I do not tolerate religious intolerance, and I imagine the moderators are no different, whether we're talking about Rastafarianism, Islam, or something else. Rastafarianism is not about smoking weed, although there are an unfortunate number of Rastas who do so.

As to Satanism, I am referring to the modern version. Does that finally clear that up? Perhaps it is an ambiguous term, but I am not aware of any other ways to describe LaVeyan Satanism. I regret including it in the poll.

Finally, about Christianity: Christianity is one religion. It cannot be divided into different religions. Christianity can, however, be divided into different "sub-religions" but they cannot be treated as separate religions as they are not. Lutherans, Catholics, Calvinists, Mormons, Quakers: they are all Christians. Islam and Judaism can be divided as well, as can Hinduism and several other religions. Nevertheless, my poll was asking about what everyone's religion is, not which denomination they follow, because denominations are not fundamentally different from each other as different religions are. Besides, if someone asks a Catholic if they are Christian, they don't say, "No, I'm Catholic!"

I have participated in many religious discussions on this forum and never once revealed my religion or lack of as it is again...my business. I am entitled to post in any thread in this forum regardless of the OP's opinion. That said, one could just as smugly ask you what concern it is of yours what religion the forum members belong to.

Yes, that does clear it up although I continue to disagree with placing Satanism alongside Agnostic and Athiest. My opinion.

As I already stated, I am aware of the many denominations of Christianity. Like I stated, a third of the world is 'Christian' yet some of the divisions are widely different. To clump a Quaker in with a Catholic is too broad a generalization. Again, my opinion.

Lastly, how exactly did I discriminate in this thread? You mentioned the moderators in an attempt to veil a threat. I welcome you to report my post and allow them to decide if I, in any way, discriminated against Rastafarians. You used the Wiki link to reference in a previous post, so let's see what I can find there to calm your nerves...... ahh, yes. Here we go:

"For Rastas, smoking cannabis, usually known as "healing of the nation", "ganja", or "herb" (from the Sanskrit word, "Ganjika", created by the Hindus of India), is a spiritual act, often accompanied by Bible study; they consider it a sacrament that cleans the body and mind, heals the soul, exalts the consciousness, facilitates peacefulness, brings pleasure, and brings them closer to Jah. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafarian

Now you say the religion is not about "smoking weed" when it is actually a spiritual cleansing. You also said that there are "an unfortunate number of Rastas who do so". Is there something wrong with celebrating the ganga? Indian tribes throughout North America have done so for centuries. You infer there is something wrong with an act that is their religious practice. My comment was that it could technically be a defense for possession.

I do not tolerate religious intolerance ubermeyer.

[ubermeyer]

You still don't get the idea. Atheism/Agnosticism don't involve any type of church, or deity, or principles by which to follow intrinsically. There's nothing to follow. No symbol. No person. No nothing. What they DO end up following defines their life beyond the singularity that is Atheism/Agnosticism.

Atheism either means a belief that there is no god or a disbelief in god. Agnosticism is for those who are either not certain, or claim that there is no way to know either way.

THAT'S IT. It doesn't go beyond that. Everything else beyond that is something else. Call LaVeyan Satanism atheism all you want, but it is missleading the group it with Atheism/Agnosticism when it has:
1. A book of rules
2. A list of sins
3. A "saint" or "prophet"
4. Even holidays!
That smacks of religion.

Okay, you win. I agree with you. However, the main reason it was in the same option was not because I mistakenly thought they were so similar, (they aren't TOTALLY different) but because I am limited to 10 poll options. Baha'i and Rastafarianism are totally different religions, but they were lumped together as well.

[ubermeyer]

I have participated in many religious discussions on this forum and never once revealed my religion or lack of as it is again...my business. I am entitled to post in any thread in this forum regardless of the OP's opinion. That said, one could just as smugly ask you what concern it is of yours what religion the forum members belong to.

Yes, that does clear it up although I continue to disagree with placing Satanism alongside Agnostic and Athiest. My opinion.

As I already stated, I am aware of the many denominations of Christianity. Like I stated, a third of the world is 'Christian' yet some of the divisions are widely different. To clump a Quaker in with a Catholic is too broad a generalization. Again, my opinion.

Lastly, how exactly did I discriminate in this thread? You mentioned the moderators in an attempt to veil a threat. I welcome you to report my post and allow them to decide if I, in any way, discriminated against Rastafarians. You used the Wiki link to reference in a previous post, so let's see what I can find there to calm your nerves...... ahh, yes. Here we go:

"For Rastas, smoking cannabis, usually known as "healing of the nation", "ganja", or "herb" (from the Sanskrit word, "Ganjika", created by the Hindus of India), is a spiritual act, often accompanied by Bible study; they consider it a sacrament that cleans the body and mind, heals the soul, exalts the consciousness, facilitates peacefulness, brings pleasure, and brings them closer to Jah. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafarian

Now you say the religion is not about "smoking weed" when it is actually a spiritual cleansing. You also said that there are "an unfortunate number of Rastas who do so". Is there something wrong with celebrating the ganga? Indian tribes throughout North America have done so for centuries. You infer there is something wrong with an act that is their religious practice. My comment was that it could technically be a defense for possession.

I do not tolerate religious intolerance ubermeyer.

How am I religiously intolerant? This is just ridiculous. I was wrong about Rastafarianism, okay? I may be ignorant of their customs, but that doesn't make religiously intolerant of them.

I don't care that you don't want to reveal your religion but it just seems like a waste of time to click on a thread ASKING WHAT RELIGION PEOPLE ARE to come in here and post. The point of this thread is to survey people as to their religion. If you don't want to reveal your religion, don't. But don't come into this thread and post off-topic and useless responses. It's like if I posted a poll: Do you like cheese?

"No offense, but whether I like cheese or not is my business."

Doesn't it seem dumb to click on the thread? Just don't click on this thread if you don't want to answer the question.

[CanadianChic]

How am I religiously intolerant? This is just ridiculous. I was wrong about Rastafarianism, okay? I may be ignorant of their customs, but that doesn't make religiously intolerant of them.

I don't care that you don't want to reveal your religion but it just seems like a waste of time to click on a thread ASKING WHAT RELIGION PEOPLE ARE to come in here and post. The point of this thread is to survey people as to their religion. If you don't want to reveal your religion, don't. But don't come into this thread and post off-topic and useless responses. It's like if I posted a poll: Do you like cheese?

"No offense, but whether I like cheese or not is my business."

Doesn't it seem dumb to click on the thread? Just don't click on this thread if you don't want to answer the question.

I don't see why you are becoming upset. I did not enter this thread to announce that my religion is my business. I posted that I thought there were a few discrepencies in your poll to which YOU asked ME if I was a NeoPagan. I am not trying to argue with you...I was merely attempting to discuss with you.

[ubermeyer]

I don't see why you are becoming upset. I did not enter this thread to announce that my religion is my business. I posted that I thought there were a few discrepencies in your poll to which YOU asked ME if I was a NeoPagan. I am not trying to argue with you...I was merely attempting to discuss with you.

but why did you click on the thread in the first place if you had no intention of voting in the poll?

[CanadianChic]

but why did you click on the thread in the first place if you had no intention of voting in the poll?

What does it matter? Perhaps I had an intention of voting in the poll before I saw the biased choices available.

[Polaris]

Satanism is a form of Atheism. The Satanist believes "he is his own God."
Taken together, these two statements don't make sense. Sorry.

Satanism is a type of Atheism. Therefore, I put it in the same category. However, you'll notice that other unrelated religions, such as Baha'i and Rastafarianism, are also lumped together. The reason is that there are only 10 available poll options. Dude, before you call other people annoying, you should ask yourself why you lumped some religions together and not others, and why would other people do it differently. Why didn't you lump Christianity, Judaism and Islam, the three monotheistic religions? You may have your own very valid reasons, but you ought to stop calling people annoying if they disagree with your biases.

As CC says above, don't get upset.

[Feña14]

I'm Catholic.

[ShiroRm]

I'm roman ... atheist

[scraps234]

You had your very first sip of alcohol tonight, eh?

lol nice...

[ET Brit]

Good grief - you see what happens when Murray wins matches? Everyone loses the will to discuss tennis, questions the existence of religion and starts talking end of life theories!

I'm an atheist, the net result of which is love all. :)

[flyinghippos101]

You dare mock the great noddleyness by putting him along with atheists? Those guys are sissies compared to us pastafarians.

[ubermeyer]

What does it matter? Perhaps I had an intention of voting in the poll before I saw the biased choices available.

what bias? I thought i resolved this issue

Taken together, these two statements don't make sense. Sorry.

Dude, before you call other people annoying, you should ask yourself why you lumped some religions together and not others, and why would other people do it differently. Why didn't you lump Christianity, Judaism and Islam, the three monotheistic religions? You may have your own very valid reasons, but you ought to stop calling people annoying if they disagree with your biases.

As CC says above, don't get upset.

There are more than three monotheistic religions; Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are the Abrahamic religions, but there are other monotheistic religions (e.g. Zoroastrianism). I did not lump Christianity, Judaism, and Islam together because they are the 3 most common religions in the world (at least, all 3 are in the top 5 most common religions)... so most votes would be for that option (I presumed, although on TT there is a much higher percentage of atheists than the actual world percentage). The reason I called people annoying is not that they disagreed with my "biases," but because they thought I was biased at all. I only included Satanism in the poll because I wanted to make it as complete as I could. I did not actually expect anyone to vote for Satanism alone, though I expected many to vote for Atheist/Agnostic. Also, many people I know are not sure if they are Atheist or Agnostic, so I lumped those two together. It was a wrong decision to include Satanism, as I have previously stated, but I can't edit the poll. Also, if I lumped the Abrahamic religions together, I thought that it would totally skew the poll, although judging by the relatively small number of votes for Islam and Judaism, it wouldn't skew the poll as much as I thought. But then again, if I had known the outcome I wouldn't even have needed to post the poll. I am not biased at all. I just wanted to make my poll as accurate as possible and I tried to the best of my ability to overcome the obstacle of only 10 poll options (which, by the way, should be increased.) This resulted in a lot of misunderstandings directed against me. I am not biased - I'll say it again.

Also, I am not "upset." I don't think people can really feel upset when posting on a forum, at least I never do.

I hope you understand my reasons and stop calling me biased- I am irritated when people call me biased as I have no bias at all toward people of different religions.

[ubermeyer]

You dare mock the great noddleyness by putting him along with atheists? Those guys are sissies compared to us pastafarians.

you dare mock the great noodleyness by misspelling his name?

[Shaolin]

OP:

Gotta love how you group Nonreligious and Athiest in with "Satanist".

Moron.

[ubermeyer]

OP:

Gotta love how you group Nonreligious and Athiest in with "Satanist".

Moron.

Holy cow... After all this? Did you even read my detailed explanations? You, sir, are the moron. I explained all this several times and I am not doing it again. Read rest of the thread before being an ignorant, foolish idiot randomly insulting people for no reason. You obviously have no brain cells in your entire body for posting this. I mean really... If you read the rest of the posts you will see that I am perfectly justified in putting them in the same category. You just come in here and repeat the same thing that other people have told me. It was justified in their case, because I did not give any explanations, but after I have posted my explanations and resolved the arguments, you are just spouting outdated, nonsensical rubbish. Go away.

[Shaolin]

Holy cow... After all this? Did you even read my detailed explanations? You, sir, are the moron. I explained all this several times and I am not doing it again. Read rest of the thread before being an ignorant, foolish idiot randomly insulting people for no reason. You obviously have no brain cells in your entire body for posting this. I mean really... If you read the rest of the posts you will see that I am perfectly justified in putting them in the same category. You just come in here and repeat the same thing that other people have told me. It was justified in their case, because I did not give any explanations, but after I have posted my explanations and resolved the arguments, you are just spouting outdated, nonsensical rubbish. Go away.



LOL. Nice psycho freak out.

Ok I admit I did not read the earlier posts saying the same thing I did. However, I did look back and see your ridiculous remark that 'Satanism is just a form of Atheism'. I pretty much don't need to say anything further :roll:

[ubermeyer]

LOL. Nice psycho freak out.

Ok I admit I did not read the earlier posts saying the same thing I did. However, I did look back and see your ridiculous remark that 'Satanism is just a form of Atheism'. I pretty much don't need to say anything further :roll:

I admitted that I was wrong about Satanism being a form of Atheism. However, neither belief system (I'm talking about LAVEYAN SATANISM here) believes in God. Therefore, it is an Atheistic religion - although it may not be a form of atheism - because Atheistic means god-less. So while I was wrong about it being a FORM of atheism, it is still an atheistic religion. Anyway, you still don't have a full understanding of this thread because you didn't read the posts after that.

I apologize for the "psycho freak out" but sometimes it is the most effective way to get a point across.

[quest01]

We are all Christians.

[CanadianChic]

I admitted that I was wrong about Satanism being a form of Atheism. However, neither belief system (I'm talking about LAVEYAN SATANISM here) believes in God. Therefore, it is an Atheistic religion - although it may not be a form of atheism - because Atheistic means god-less. So while I was wrong about it being a FORM of atheism, it is still an atheistic religion. Anyway, you still don't have a full understanding of this thread because you didn't read the posts after that.

I apologize for the "psycho freak out" but sometimes it is the most effective way to get a point across.

Nope. Wrong again. There is no such thing as an Atheistic religion. Using your Wiki references to explain why:

"A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power, God or gods, or ultimate truth."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion


"Atheism can be either the rejection of theism,[1] or the position that deities do not exist.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

In simplest terms....Atheism is NOT a religion...it is the disbelief of theism and of religion (both organized and non organized).


what bias? I thought i resolved this issue



Now it has been cleared up.

[ubermeyer]

Nope. Wrong again. There is no such thing as an Atheistic religion. Using your Wiki references to explain why:

"A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power, God or gods, or ultimate truth."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion


"Atheism can be either the rejection of theism,[1] or the position that deities do not exist.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

In simplest terms....Atheism is NOT a religion...it is the disbelief of theism and of religion (both organized and non organized).





Now it has been cleared up.

Sorry, I mis-wrote. LaVeyan Satanism is an atheistic belief system.

Am I right?

[CanadianChic]

Sorry, I mis-wrote. LaVeyan Satanism is an atheistic belief system.

Am I right?

Haha. I'm thinking you'll be thinking twice before starting another thread on this forum, no? ;)

You're getting closer...almost there. Atheists do not believe in any deity while Satanists do idolize themselves (Atheists do not). Therefore, a Satanist is Atheistic in the fact only that he/she does not believe in a God yet they are still two seperate and unique groups. They are not the same but do agree on that theory.

[ubermeyer]

Haha. I'm thinking you'll be thinking twice before starting another thread on this forum, no? ;)

You're getting closer...almost there. Atheists do not believe in any deity while Satanists do idolize themselves (Atheists do not). Therefore, a Satanist is Atheistic in the fact only that he/she does not believe in a God yet they are still two seperate and unique groups. They are not the same but do agree on that theory.

Yeah, I'm gonna stay away from starting religious discussions, lol.

So, neither group believes in God so that is one similarity. Me understand

wow I have never been wrong about religion this many times in a row

[CanadianChic]

Yeah, I'm gonna stay away from starting religious discussions, lol.

So, neither group believes in God so that is one similarity. Me understand

wow I have never been wrong about religion this many times in a row

It happens. This section gives you a slight preparation for what awaits in the Rants & Raves section. 'Some' of those discussions are literally battlefields...an arena of serious debaters.

[Sentinel]

Good grief - you see what happens when Murray wins matches? Everyone loses the will to discuss tennis, questions the existence of religion and starts talking end of life theories!


Good one, Brit !!!!! Questioning the purpose of life when Roger loses and "He Who Shall Not Be Named" wins :-D

[JoshDragon]

Used to be a Federerist but now I've been converted to Nadalism.

[mtommer]

Are we all suuurrreeee Atheism isn't a religion? What about if it there is a Church of Atheism?
First Church of Atheism (http://firstchurchofatheism.com/)

[Sentinel]

Used to be a Federerist but now I've been converted to Nadalism.
Have the Fidel Potroists not got to you, yet.:???:

[Polaris]

I hope you understand my reasons and stop calling me biased- I am irritated when people call me biased as I have no bias at all toward people of different religions.
Ok. If you are not biased, then you certainly are (or were) uninformed. The initial assumption that "Satanism = Atheism" is hilariously wrong.

[ubermeyer]

Ok. If you are not biased, then you certainly are (or were) uninformed. The initial assumption that "Satanism = Atheism" is hilariously wrong.

Yes, I admitted my mistake. I was uninformed and "hilariously wrong." Okay, fine. Now stop bringing this up over and over again, please.

[boredone3456]

Technically I am Roman Catholic, was baptized, confirmed and the whole deal. Actually used to be quite involved in my church until the long time priest retired due to health reasons and the church I was part of went through very dramatic reorganization and made many changes that I felt were not great. The Capuchins who took over started turning away long time members who didn't fit their image of Catholic and their attitude and example soured me. I beleive in God, miracles, power of prayer and all that, but I am not a church goer. I guess I'm not sure what that would make me within this poll LOL.

[35ft6]

Should have been "not religious at all" instead of Atheist and Agnostic. Scientology and Satanism would have been better off being lumped with something else. Flying chariots, intergalactic jumbo jets... what's the difference? Maybe scientology is more sensible since we at least know jets can fly.

[ubermeyer]

Technically I am Roman Catholic, was baptized, confirmed and the whole deal. Actually used to be quite involved in my church until the long time priest retired due to health reasons and the church I was part of went through very dramatic reorganization and made many changes that I felt were not great. The Capuchins who took over started turning away long time members who didn't fit their image of Catholic and their attitude and example soured me. I beleive in God, miracles, power of prayer and all that, but I am not a church goer. I guess I'm not sure what that would make me within this poll LOL.

You don't have to go to church to be Christian.

[CanadianChic]

Yes, I admitted my mistake. I was uninformed and "hilariously wrong." Okay, fine. Now stop bringing this up over and over again, please.

I have admitted mistakes on the forum and have been chewed out for doing so - what is worse.....being wrong in the first place or having the 'nerve' to admit it? At least you were hilarious and not a hypocrite or manipulative which is what I was called in the past (not by the same poster though). ;)

You don't have to go to church to be Christian.

Very true.

[Eph]

What horrible choices. I like how you group "atheists" as "Satanists" and "scientologists".

In any event, I'm a Taoist.

[10sfreak]

What horrible choices. I like how you group "atheists" as "Satanists" and "scientologists".

In any event, I'm a Taoist.
This issue has already been covered for the last 5 pages...

[Eph]

This issue has already been covered for the last 5 pages...

I figured as much, but thanks for the affirmation.

[r2473]

It happens. This section gives you a slight preparation for what awaits in the Rants & Raves section. 'Some' of those discussions are literally battlefields...an arena of serious debaters.

I would classify VERY little of what I have seen in Rants and Raves as "debate".

Arguing? sure.

Bickering? yes.

Debate? not really.

It may be classified as debating in the same way "presidential debates" are loosely called debates I suppose.

[Sentinel]

OMG !!!! 38% Pastafarians !!!

[ubermeyer]

What horrible choices. I like how you group "atheists" as "Satanists" and "scientologists".

In any event, I'm a Taoist.

You're an idiot, because I have already explained why I chose the groups I did. Then, I explained it again. And then again... I'm not doing it again. If you wish to be a stupid moron in my thread, I could care less at this point.

[Sentinel]

Ubermeyer,

what was the original intent of this thread. Just numbers, or some discussion ?

[ubermeyer]

Ubermeyer,

what was the original intent of this thread. Just numbers, or some discussion ?

Cold, hard numbers. I'm a facts kinda guy.

[CanadianChic]

I would classify VERY little of what I have seen in Rants and Raves as "debate".

Arguing? sure.

Bickering? yes.

Debate? not really.

It may be classified as debating in the same way "presidential debates" are loosely called debates I suppose.

I can't really argue with you there. I suppose I have just impressed myself over the years with some very intelligent, astute, profound posts but it is a bickerfest overall. :)

[Sentinel]

Cold, hard numbers. I'm a facts kinda guy.
wow, you;'ve got your cold hard numbers :-D

Most of this board is ... wait ... either satanists or pastafarians or atheist ... now where are you ???

[flyinghippos101]

OMG !!!! 38% Pastafarians !!!

Yes brothers, rise and spread the teachings of the flying spaghetti monster!!

[Eph]

You're an idiot, because I have already explained why I chose the groups I did. Then, I explained it again. And then again... I'm not doing it again. If you wish to be a stupid moron in my thread, I could care less at this point.

You know your argument is solid when ad hoc ad hominem attacks begin.

I didn't read all 5 pages of your thread before I decided to make a post - the main reason being - to proclaim what faith system I follow.

One you probably know nothing about. Admittedly, is irrelevant.

[Eph]

wow, you;'ve got your cold hard numbers :-D

Most of this board is ... wait ... either satanists or pastafarians or atheist ... now where are you ???

He's a Christian of course. How do I know? His ignorance on the "evils".

[ubermeyer]

You know your argument is solid when ad hoc ad hominem attacks begin.

I didn't read all 5 pages of your thread before I decided to make a post - the main reason being - to proclaim what faith system I follow.

One you probably know nothing about. Admittedly, is irrelevant.

I neglected to make my poll public, but I am actually a Daoist. My parents had two different religions, I was educated in a religious school which happened to teach of a third religion... I wasn't sure which to accept, and then I found the fourth.

I don't exactly understand what the rest of your post means, but I take it, that you are apologizing/admitting that you do not know my reasons, which you admit are possibly justified. Therefore, apology accepted.

[ubermeyer]

He's a Christian of course. How do I know? His ignorance on the "evils".

What evils? I'm not Christian BTW.

[ubermeyer]

wow, you;'ve got your cold hard numbers :-D

Most of this board is ... wait ... either satanists or pastafarians or atheist ... now where are you ???

Actually, the people voting for option #9 are probably either atheist or agnostic. The other choices are irrelevant, (except nonreligious of course, which usually describes a person who is atheist or agnostic anyway), and Scientology, which I would guess has at the most 1 vote, if any. It was superfluous of me to include Satanism, and Pastafarians are just atheists that mock the concept of God by coming up with their own joke religion, which is a pretty hilarious belief system actually.

[Sentinel]

I would not equate non-religious with atheist or agnostic.

[ubermeyer]

I would not equate non-religious with atheist or agnostic.

Mostly they are though... I suppose I should've included Deist in the poll.

[Sentinel]

You could have kept one option per option and kept an "other, please specify".

That way you would have some useful data.

[CanadianChic]

You could have kept one option per option and kept an "other, please specify".

That way you would have some useful data.

He realizes this Sent and has acknowledged that the poll is a little off but there is nothing he can do to fix it at this point.

[ubermeyer]

He realizes this Sent and has acknowledged that the poll is a little off but there is nothing he can do to fix it at this point.

Yes, unless I post this thing again... which I don't really feel like doing, for some reason.

[Polaris]

Yes brothers, rise and spread the teachings of the flying spaghetti monster!!
Wouldn't that offend the followers of the invisible pink unicorn? :)

[Shaolin]

You're an idiot, because I have already explained why I chose the groups I did. Then, I explained it again. And then again... I'm not doing it again. If you wish to be a stupid moron in my thread, I could care less at this point.

I neglected to make my poll public, but I am actually a Daoist. My parents had two different religions, I was educated in a religious school which happened to teach of a third religion... I wasn't sure which to accept, and then I found the fourth.

I don't exactly understand what the rest of your post means, but I take it, that you are apologizing/admitting that you do not know my reasons, which you admit are possibly justified. Therefore, apology accepted.


Its easy to see how you follow the Tao and Lao Tzu as you call someone an idiot every other post. You might want to reread the Tao Te Ching a few more times. Peace.

[ubermeyer]

Its easy to see how you follow the Tao and Lao Tzu as you call someone an idiot every other post. You might want to reread the Tao Te Ching a few more times. Peace.

Unfortunately, I sometimes see no other way to get my point across. Nobody is perfect, but I apologize nonetheless.

(For the record, that's 7 posts in a row without using the "I" word.)

[ubermeyer]

What horrible choices. I like how you group "atheists" as "Satanists" and "scientologists".

In any event, I'm a Taoist.

Why, then, didn't you vote in the poll for that option?

[Sentinel]

uber,

You say you are a Daoist. Actually, i would really like to know a little more about that. I have googled a year back, i even have some pdf's on my disk, but would you like to open a thread on that and just tell us about it -- in simple terms.

We could ask you questions and you could clarify.

[ubermeyer]

uber,

You say you are a Daoist. Actually, i would really like to know a little more about that. I have googled a year back, i even have some pdf's on my disk, but would you like to open a thread on that and just tell us about it -- in simple terms.

We could ask you questions and you could clarify.

About what? Do you mean Daoism in general or my personal Daoist faith? In the first case, you could take the initiative yourself and start a thread asking questions about Daoism, which I would be happy to answer.