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murrmanfan13
08-11-2009, 05:34 PM
lately i have been hearing alot about the magic this string works. before i get myself a reel for experimenting, i was just wondering how it plays. does it have power, control feel? hows the durability? thanks alot.

canadave
08-11-2009, 05:38 PM
durability is fantastic...the strings will just die before they break. I've played about a full season on one set, medium tension.

If you string it and don't feel there's enough power, string at lower tension. Near the end of one of my seasons with it, the racquet was practically a rocket launcher...at low tension it was just firing the ball long (too long).

Control is fantastic, and the feel is cushiony soft. If you string too high a tension, it might feel a bit boardy until it loosens up.

murrmanfan13
08-11-2009, 05:53 PM
thanks a ton! ive been string my polys at 58 and my crosses at 60. should i try any lower with kirsch? what do you hybrid it with if anything?

murrmanfan13
08-11-2009, 06:32 PM
anyone got ideas? or is this thread dead?

himynameisNIKE
08-11-2009, 06:33 PM
i use full pl2 at 58 it is amazing wont be disappointed

DownTheLine
08-11-2009, 06:36 PM
How different is PL1 and PL2?
I meant to order PL2, but clicked the wrong one.

murrmanfan13
08-11-2009, 06:37 PM
sounds promising, its not to stiff so it shouldnt be too bad on my arm right? if i were to hybrid it, do you have any favorite hybrids with it, or hybrids you think will work with it?

murrmanfan13
08-11-2009, 06:37 PM
i have no clue, but i would think pl2 is better lol

canadave
08-11-2009, 06:39 PM
anyone got ideas? or is this thread dead?

Patience, patience...let the threads live a little while before jumping to the conclusion that they're dead :) Sometimes threads here languish for weeks or months or even years, and then someone'll resurrect it.

Your question about the tensions is dependent on what racquet you're stringing. I had my PSC 6.1's (55-65lb tension range) strung with the PLII at 61lbs. At that tension, the racquet felt slightly boardy at first, then settled down nicely into the optimum tension range as time went by. I like to string above "ideal" tension to start with, and let natural tension loss bring the string into the "ideal" zone over time.

canadave
08-11-2009, 06:41 PM
sounds promising, its not to stiff so it shouldnt be too bad on my arm right? if i were to hybrid it, do you have any favorite hybrids with it, or hybrids you think will work with it?

I am 37 years old, had the PLII in one of the stiffest recent racquets (72 RDC), and it was a comfortable hit for me...no arm problems whatsoever.

murrmanfan13
08-11-2009, 06:44 PM
heh i am new to forums so im still getting the hang of all this.

your tension idea is very good, something i should probably try more often. if the string is as soft as you say, does that make it mushy, or is it crisp.

poinconeru
08-11-2009, 06:47 PM
I've used Pro Line 2 in hybrids before and liked it quite a bit. I did a full set of 16g for the first time at 57 lbs on an APDC about a month ago and loved it. soft, controllable, with enough power. But after three weeks of solid play the strings just felt dead to me: no feedback, no power, control. I restrung another (identical) APDC with SPPP 16g at 55# and went out to compare. The Kirsch felt even deader when compared with the fresh SPPP. All of the sudden I had depth control back and could hit the angles I wanted with confidence. So I went home and cut the Kirsch out. 3 weeks life isn't long enough for a $12 pack of string for me. I just finished off a reel of Pro Supex Big Ace, and though I didn't like the string as much, it tended to break at about 3 weeks (before losing its life), and cost me something like $4.50 a racquet. I really liked the Pro Line too though (including the color) and if I had expendable cash I'd probably pick up a reel. Instead I think my next reel will be SPPP. I really like PHT 16 and think it holds its playing characteristics longer than any other poly I've tried, and takes me a month or so to break, but I can't stomach 14 bucks a pack.

canadave
08-11-2009, 06:49 PM
heh i am new to forums so im still getting the hang of all this.

No worries, we all were new once. Just be nice, try to contribute as well as ask for info, share your knowledge and try to help folks out, and that's the name of the game :)


your tension idea is very good, something i should probably try more often. if the string is as soft as you say, does that make it mushy, or is it crisp.

Yeah, I never saw the sense of stringing a racquet at ideal tension, then letting it depreciate right from the beginning out of the ideal tension range. I'd rather string it slightly high, let it break in a bit, and by then have it right in the ideal range for playing with for a while.

As for the string, it does not feel mushy, nor particularly crisp. Just a nice soft hit. I play with a dampener, too, so that might make a difference.

murrmanfan13
08-11-2009, 06:52 PM
i just tried sppp with x-1 and did not like it very much. it might be because the sppp is yet to break in, and maybe it will be better then. i am lately thinking about switching from sppp to pl2, would you think that would be better? im okay spending the money if its worth it. thanks

murrmanfan13
08-11-2009, 06:54 PM
thanks for the nice words candave :D

sounds like the crispness will be perfect for me.

thanks for all the help!

canadave
08-11-2009, 06:55 PM
You're quite welcome :) Good luck, and come back and post here letting us know how it went :)

murrmanfan13
08-11-2009, 07:00 PM
i sure will :D

murrmanfan13
08-12-2009, 06:01 PM
so ill be getting this in on friday and im very excited.
in the meantime does anyone have any hybrid ideas? i have no clue what i am gonna put it with.

Supracool94
08-13-2009, 05:23 AM
I hit last night with my Gamma Pro/ Kirsh PLII, and its my least favorite hybrid! In fact I'm probably going to trade away the half set I have left. I just seem to get better ball bite with TF Black Code and MSV Hex!

drakulie
08-13-2009, 05:34 AM
I string for two guys who use this (full string job). Although it is very harsh when stringing, and a pain, it plays relatively soft. Has good spin potential, power, and relatively good feel at contact.

murrmanfan13
08-13-2009, 05:39 AM
sounds like a nice string. is it textured at all?

Supracool94
08-13-2009, 05:43 AM
PL II is smooth with no texture

murrmanfan13
08-13-2009, 05:47 AM
oh ok
10 char

dadozen
08-13-2009, 06:01 AM
I'm currently using PLII in one of my racquets and I'm getting to a conclusion that I much prefer it over Pro Supex BAM. It's a little crisper, gave me more control and moves a lot less.

But i'm very interested in trying one MSV Hex stringjob. Glad I have one at home.

murrmanfan13
08-13-2009, 06:07 AM
im interested in trying MSV to, i mean it must be great if it won string of the year. tell me how it goes im interested to know

dadozen
08-13-2009, 06:36 AM
im interested in trying MSV to, i mean it must be great if it won string of the year. tell me how it goes im interested to know

No problems, I'll do that:)

jrod
08-13-2009, 06:53 AM
sounds like a nice string. is it textured at all?


If my memory is correct, I believe that Spiky Shark is the same string as PL2 only textured...

murrmanfan13
08-13-2009, 07:00 AM
i think someone mentioned that, but he also said that someone else told him it was completely different.

hoodjem
08-13-2009, 08:15 AM
One of my very favorite hybrids was Kirsch Pro Line I and Volkl Power Fibre: crisp yet softer, with lots of control, and great feel. I had 18g for both and the spin was quite good.

Kirschbaum Pro Line No.1 1.15 Polyester 1.16 234
Volkl Power Fiber 18 Nylon 1.19 195

(PL I is a little bit cheaper and a little more crisp than PL II.)

murrmanfan13
08-13-2009, 08:18 AM
well thats an interesting hybrid, i have never heard of Volkl Power Fiber...

murrmanfan13
08-13-2009, 08:20 AM
are there any other things you have tried and liked with it?

PED
08-13-2009, 08:55 AM
If my memory is correct, I believe that Spiky Shark is the same string as PL2 only textured...

Spikey may be the same construction but I found that it does not play at all like pl2. Much much stiffer and the power level is quite a bit lower. I tried it twice and didn't get on with it but many on here love it.

murrmanfan13
08-13-2009, 08:58 AM
that makes sense. are you a fan of PL2?

PED
08-13-2009, 09:01 AM
^^Yes, I do love it. It took me 3 years to reach that point after trying every other string under the sun. I like pl1 as well but it's a bit thinner than the pl2 in the 17g. Pl1 also started moving around much quicker on me than pl2 for some reason. I think pl1 is around 1.23 and I could tell the difference. (I know, call me crazy)

murrmanfan13
08-13-2009, 09:21 AM
who said being crazy was bad?

anyway, in your opinion do you like it more than lets say luxilon?

PED
08-13-2009, 09:23 AM
No, I don't like it more than luxilon but the lux goes dead on me in 4 or 5 hours and as much as I love it, I can't justify that.

I can also string the pl2 higher and get great control; the only thing lacking is that "drop out of the sky" spin that lux gives you.

However, my comments apply only to lux ALU. I do think pl2 is better than BBO or m2... IMO

murrmanfan13
08-13-2009, 12:51 PM
ok, ill definitely try it. the thing with alu rough is that it rips through my x-1. that why i am looking for something that wont rip it