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ogruskie
08-21-2009, 12:29 AM
Just out of curiosity. I'm using Silverstring mains.

Supracool94
08-21-2009, 01:04 AM
It would give you more playability, multis are more like natural gut compared to synthetic gut, in others words they have more elasticity.

dadozen
08-21-2009, 05:13 AM
It will make the stringbed softer and livelier, but you won't feel any loss in control. Multifilament strings are, in a general way, better than syn gut strings.

gflyer
05-17-2010, 12:10 PM
I've been playing with multi in the crosses for a while (and poly in the mains).
After reading on thi forums and trying to save some money I tried OG Sheep micro in the crosses.
Very disappointing. I will cut the stringbed today and go back to my usual setup.
I prefer even a cheap multi (like FXP).
No more syn gut in my crosses.

gflyer
05-17-2010, 12:14 PM
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volleynets
05-17-2010, 12:19 PM
Agreed.

After all the hype here about PSGD I put it into my crosses back when I used Big Ace mains and it sucked compared to any Multi in the crosses. Feel became crappy, and there was less control. Power was about the same though.

Ripper014
05-17-2010, 12:29 PM
I've been playing with multi in the crosses for a while (and poly in the mains).
After reading on thi forums and trying to save some money I tried OG Sheep micro in the crosses.
Very disappointing. I will cut the stringbed today and go back to my usual setup.
I prefer even a cheap multi (like FXP).
No more syn gut in my crosses.

Axctually I much prefer having my multi in the mains with the poly in the crosses. I strung up two frames with the only difference of switching the hybrid configuration... I liked both, I liked having the multi in the mains much more.

gflyer
05-17-2010, 12:30 PM
Agreed.

After all the hype here about PSGD I put it into my crosses back when I used Big Ace mains and it sucked compared to any Multi in the crosses. Feel became crappy, and there was less control. Power was about the same though.

What multi do you like?
I am trying to find a decent multi cross below $10.

gflyer
05-17-2010, 12:33 PM
Axctually I much prefer having my multi in the mains with the poly in the crosses. I strung up two frames with the only difference of switching the hybrid configuration... they I liked both, I liked having the multi in the mains much more.

Most likely you have more feel, but my concern is control.

Keifers
05-17-2010, 12:35 PM
What multi do you like?
I am trying to find a decent multi cross below $10.
I would recommend you consider Maxim Touch (the original version, not the new one).

gflyer
05-17-2010, 12:42 PM
I would recommend you consider Maxim Touch (the original version, not the new one).

I know only one place that sell it (the depot), but how do I know if it's the new or the old?

MuscleWeave
05-17-2010, 01:00 PM
What multi do you like?
I am trying to find a decent multi cross below $10.

I'm happy with Tecnifibre Multifeel crosses at $9.50 per set.

gflyer
05-17-2010, 01:11 PM
I'm happy with Tecnifibre Multifeel crosses at $9.50 per set.
That was the next in my list. I got a set last week and was ready to string tonight.
Cool. thank you for your input. :)

Keifers
05-17-2010, 02:05 PM
I know only one place that sell it (the depot), but how do I know if it's the new or the old?
Might be tough to find the old at this point. Take a look at this thread though:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=326155

Especially posts #150 and #151.

gflyer
05-17-2010, 02:10 PM
^^^ Yeah I was reading that thread after your previous post.
Too bad the new MT is not as good as the old one.
Thank you ;)

Keifers
05-17-2010, 05:43 PM
^^^ No worries mate. Hope you find a good cross to use. Cheers.

ManuGinobili
05-17-2010, 11:46 PM
Maxim Touch, Multifeel, Wilson Sensation are pretty good options (in that order)... on the not as popular side, Solinco and Mantis multis get very good reviews.

gflyer
05-18-2010, 07:48 AM
^^^ No worries mate. Hope you find a good cross to use. Cheers.
thank you mate. :-)
Maxim Touch, Multifeel, Wilson Sensation are pretty good options (in that order)... on the not as popular side, Solinco and Mantis multis get very good reviews.

Thank you for your suggestion. Actually I just strung a frame with multifeel in the crosses and will try it tonight.

I know that I am not supposed to ask, but where do I buy those 2 string you suggested (Solinco and Mantis)?
TW doesn't carry solinco multi (tru feel) but only polys.

Ripper014
05-18-2010, 07:54 AM
Most likely you have more feel, but my concern is control.

Actually both... I have never been short on power with my tennis game, so everything about my equipment is all about control. I use a low powered frame... currently a Tour 90 strung at 64 lbs... with a hybrid as I said of MT and Poly. Using the relatively high string tensions keep the ball from trampolining off my racket. My previous frames were a PS 6.0 85 strung at 72 lbs.

I am sure you are aware the main characteristics of a string job come from what is in your mains.... and the MT works out great with the stiffness of the poly in the crosses.

gflyer
05-18-2010, 08:01 AM
Actually both... I have never been short on power with my tennis game, so everything about my equipment is all about control. I use a low powered frame... currently a Tour 90 strung at 64 lbs... with a hybrid as I said of MT and Poly. Using the relatively high string tensions keep the ball from trampolining off my racket. My previous frames were a PS 6.0 85 strung at 72 lbs.

I am sure you are aware the main characteristics of a string job come from what is in your mains.... and the MT works out great with the stiffness of the poly in the crosses.

Nice. thank you!!
Now I have to try.
Can I ask what poly you use and tension difference (if any) between main and crosses?

Larrysümmers
05-18-2010, 04:28 PM
I'm going to be odd and say......after trying NXT and Wilson extreame synthetic with polyon mains (all strung at 60) I like the synthetic better. I felt like I had plenty more control. More topspin which allowed me to hit harder. I liked multi better at net though.

MarrratSafin
05-18-2010, 05:27 PM
I'm going to be odd and say......after trying NXT and Wilson extreame synthetic with polyon mains (all strung at 60) I like the synthetic better. I felt like I had plenty more control. More topspin which allowed me to hit harder. I liked multi better at net though.

IMO, multi crosses give better feel, comfort and playability than synthetic gut too, but good synthetics such as Babolat N.VY works as well as any multis.

Larrysümmers
05-18-2010, 05:35 PM
IMO, multi crosses give better feel, comfort and playability than synthetic gut too, but good synthetics such as Babolat N.VY works as well as any multis.

it def felt softer and that caused touch shots to be better. But I just pefer the synth better. Then again, that's just me. Everyone is different :)

keepurpowderdry
05-18-2010, 06:58 PM
it def felt softer and that caused touch shots to be better. But I just pefer the synth better. Then again, that's just me. Everyone is different :)

Hi, I been stringing my 001 mid at 56 54 with original big banger . the original big banger strings are stiff and would seem like it would be no power because the fram is stiff but with lower string tension it feels pretty comfortable. Now i see you went the other way , where you have high tension (60) but used softer strings . Can you tell me if you know the difference of how your set up plays vs my set up ? I was thinking of setting it up like you have it . Plus i put lead on 3 and 9 oclock and it made off center shots allot better . if you put lead on it where do you pout yours at and how did it change the racquet ? Thanks for your time..

Larrysümmers
05-19-2010, 04:29 PM
Hi, I been stringing my 001 mid at 56 54 with original big banger . the original big banger strings are stiff and would seem like it would be no power because the fram is stiff but with lower string tension it feels pretty comfortable. Now i see you went the other way , where you have high tension (60) but used softer strings . Can you tell me if you know the difference of how your set up plays vs my set up ? I was thinking of setting it up like you have it . Plus i put lead on 3 and 9 oclock and it made off center shots allot better . if you put lead on it where do you pout yours at and how did it change the racquet ? Thanks for your time..

I feel with the softer string the ball seems to fly more. I do like vollies and touch shots. But groundstrokes, just too much. Although, my serves were toasty today. Very hard accurate, and had a lot of "kick" even though it was a flat serve.

With the same polyon main, but with synthetic cross, I liked it more. I felt like I could hit harder, felt like I could rip the cover off, and it would stay in. I felt like I was getting way more topspin and the ball never really sailed long. Bad side is that touch shots and vollies are not as good. As for serves, can't really comment as I've been working on a new serve style, and I havnt used it for the new serve.
I am going to hopefully try mantis strings and some Kevlar hybrids. For now I might try upping the multi to its max, not sure what that is. Or trying a crisper multi. It is growing on me.

Hope I helped

spacediver
05-19-2010, 05:08 PM
my stringer told me that multis are generally harder on the arm than synthetic gut (i chose syn gut over poly because poly hurts my arm).

Was he mistaken?

keepurpowderdry
05-19-2010, 05:13 PM
I feel with the softer string the ball seems to fly more. I do like vollies and touch shots. But groundstrokes, just too much. Although, my serves were toasty today. Very hard accurate, and had a lot of "kick" even though it was a flat serve.

With the same polyon main, but with synthetic cross, I liked it more. I felt like I could hit harder, felt like I could rip the cover off, and it would stay in. I felt like I was getting way more topspin and the ball never really sailed long. Bad side is that touch shots and vollies are not as good. As for serves, can't really comment as I've been working on a new serve style, and I havnt used it for the new serve.
I am going to hopefully try mantis strings and some Kevlar hybrids. For now I might try upping the multi to its max, not sure what that is. Or trying a crisper multi. It is growing on me.

Hope I helped

Thanks allot man . I think me and you are on the same journey with this kevlar thing . I just am afraid that our racquets (001 mid) might be the wrong kind to do the kevlar set up. (stiff) ?? I don't know but we will find out soon lol... I might get the volkl PB mid 10 and do the kevlar set up cause i think that racquet is flexible but I would have to sell my 001 mid and I am scared to sale it !!! lol

Larrysümmers
05-19-2010, 05:35 PM
Thanks allot man . I think me and you are on the same journey with this kevlar thing . I just am afraid that our racquets (001 mid) might be the wrong kind to do the kevlar set up. (stiff) ?? I don't know but we will find out soon lol... I might get the volkl PB mid 10 and do the kevlar set up cause i think that racquet is flexible but I would have to sell my 001 mid and I am scared to sale it !!! lol

yeah i have had some scares, like oh is this not the right one for me. but then i think about why i like it. i have tried many popular frames and the mid oo1 just is my stick.
to the kevlar, different people say different things about it about being arm friendly. i want to try it because a lot of people are saying about how much spin it causes, like it bites into the ball. i am trying to be more of an aggressive high topspin baseline player. over the summer i am thinking about trying forten ultra thin blend and ashway kevlar. the mantis strings and spiky shark. i have heard some good things about the power poly and comfort synthetic from the mantis.
i will try to keep you updated about it.
\btw whats play style?

Aerogel
05-19-2010, 05:54 PM
In terms of a poly hybrid with syngut/multi, is it really worth investing in the multi tho?
I know this question doesn't have an actual answer because "worth" is extremely subjective, but even if multis offer better playability, I can't come to reason how paying several times more for the multi is logical.
Also, the fact that the poly mains will have the most influence on the ball and that multis usually have inferior durability to synguts further persuades me to stick to a poly/syngut hybrid.
I guess I'm looking for other players' takes on this issues.

keepurpowderdry
05-19-2010, 08:29 PM
yeah i have had some scares, like oh is this not the right one for me. but then i think about why i like it. i have tried many popular frames and the mid oo1 just is my stick.
to the kevlar, different people say different things about it about being arm friendly. i want to try it because a lot of people are saying about how much spin it causes, like it bites into the ball. i am trying to be more of an aggressive high topspin baseline player. over the summer i am thinking about trying forten ultra thin blend and ashway kevlar. the mantis strings and spiky shark. i have heard some good things about the power poly and comfort synthetic from the mantis.
i will try to keep you updated about it.
\btw whats play style?

My playing style your asking ?? If so I love to camp at the baseline because I have to be honest with myself I love hitting just a little bit more than winning lol .. seriously though :) But I can be an all court player to.

Larrysümmers
05-20-2010, 03:32 AM
My playing style your asking ?? If so I love to camp at the baseline because I have to be honest with myself I love hitting just a little bit more than winning lol .. seriously though :) But I can be an all court player to.

are you my twin by any chance? i do make approach shots and come up but i mostly stay at the baseline as an aggresive baseliner.

mikeler
05-20-2010, 04:15 AM
my stringer told me that multis are generally harder on the arm than synthetic gut (i chose syn gut over poly because poly hurts my arm).

Was he mistaken?


If you look at the stiffness ratings, multis should feel softer. For me, a multi does feel softer than a synthetic gut.

keepurpowderdry
05-20-2010, 10:38 AM
are you my twin by any chance? i do make approach shots and come up but i mostly stay at the baseline as an aggresive baseliner.

LOL ,, I think it's our racquet that is molding us to that playing style .. I am working out getting stronger so that my yonex feels more light and i can get a little more swing out of my racquet. Plus summer is coming and I need to look decent for the females at the beach lol...

Larrysümmers
05-20-2010, 12:50 PM
LOL ,, I think it's our racquet that is molding us to that playing style .. I am working out getting stronger so that my yonex feels more light and i can get a little more swing out of my racquet. Plus summer is coming and I need to look decent for the females at the beach lol...

right now it doesnt feel heavy, to me. im going to add some weight throughout the racket to get a heavier swingweight but really headlight to see if it gives me anymore power and spin at all maybe 13 oz SW 345 and 12pts headlight. then with the right strings and strokes, NCAA coaches will be callin my door :cool:

keepurpowderdry
05-21-2010, 12:35 AM
right now it doesnt feel heavy, to me. im going to add some weight throughout the racket to get a heavier swingweight but really headlight to see if it gives me anymore power and spin at all maybe 13 oz SW 345 and 12pts headlight. then with the right strings and strokes, NCAA coaches will be callin my door :cool:

I wish you the best man, go for your goals and allways enjoy yourself at the same time. Well balance soul you dig :) Also you dont have any problem with hitting a forehand that is chest level or higher due to a hard hitting top spin player that is hitting medium pace groundies ?

Larrysümmers
05-21-2010, 02:56 AM
I wish you the best man, go for your goals and allways enjoy yourself at the same time. Well balance soul you dig :) Also you dont have any problem with hitting a forehand that is chest level or higher due to a hard hitting top spin player that is hitting medium pace groundies ?

thanks.

No, I use a western grip, that ball is right up my alley.

Larrysümmers
05-21-2010, 03:53 PM
I really can't hit groundies with it. The multi strung racquet is either giving way to much power, or not enough TS. Same stoke, but the ball is flying. Its a shame because volleys and serves are really nice with this hybrid.

keepurpowderdry
05-25-2010, 02:52 PM
I really can't hit groundies with it. The multi strung racquet is either giving way to much power, or not enough TS. Same stoke, but the ball is flying. Its a shame because volleys and serves are really nice with this hybrid.

I use a eastern forehand with a windshield whiper stroke against heavy top spin then flat is really easy when i get some flat shots. But if I can't get in position on a high top spin shot I have to really use my lower body to jump up slightly and use some wrist that I don't really want to do. I need to lern the semi western grip so i can take it easier on my arm .

Larrysümmers
05-25-2010, 03:06 PM
I've been working on hitting eastern with over the shoulder and I've been liking the results. I'm going to a little camp, so I'm going to work on it there and maybe use it for my normal swing. So I'm going to where you were haha.

On a sidenote. I've ordered gamma ultra thin and some Wilson hyperlast spin.
So I'll keep you up to date if you are still interested in the Kevlar.

keepurpowderdry
05-29-2010, 12:40 PM
I've been working on hitting eastern with over the shoulder and I've been liking the results. I'm going to a little camp, so I'm going to work on it there and maybe use it for my normal swing. So I'm going to where you were haha.

On a sidenote. I've ordered gamma ultra thin and some Wilson hyperlast spin.
So I'll keep you up to date if you are still interested in the Kevlar.

Thats soo funny "side note" I just changed my order from ashaway 18 guage to TNT fusion plus 19 guage lol.. Thats what your talking about right ? Now your trying eastern lol,, I think we are racking our brains way to hard with our tennis lol.. But like phil helmuth (professional poker player) said to a guy at the poker table" to you poker/tennis is a game ,, to me its my life !!! bahahahaha