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papatenis
08-28-2009, 09:42 AM
does anybody know the daily schedule at academy's from the time you wake up to time you go to bed.

kme5150
08-28-2009, 11:47 AM
This is the schedule of one academy in Florida.

7:00 Breakfast
7:10 Transportaion to Courts
7:15-8:45 Fitness
9:00 Breakfast
10:20 Transportaion to Courts
10:30-12:45 Tennis Program
1:00 Lunch
1:30 Study Time
3:20 Transportaion to Courts
3:30-5:15 Tennis Program
5:15-6:45 Fitness Program
7:00 Dinner Time
7:30 Study Time

10isplayer
08-28-2009, 05:52 PM
what academy is this?

scraps234
08-28-2009, 10:31 PM
This is the schedule of one academy in Florida.

7:00 Breakfast
7:10 Transportaion to Courts
7:15-8:45 Fitness
9:00 Breakfast
10:20 Transportaion to Courts
10:30-12:45 Tennis Program
1:00 Lunch
1:30 Study Time
3:20 Transportaion to Courts
3:30-5:15 Tennis Program
5:15-6:45 Fitness Program
7:00 Dinner Time
7:30 Study Time
which one in fl?

TennisCoachFLA
08-29-2009, 08:13 AM
That posted schedule is pretty typical for FL. full time programs....and the exact reason they are vast overkill. I get that the schedule has to satisfy the parents paying lots of money.

But if you were to interview the top 20 men and women I would guess that the vast majority played other sports like soccer until age 12-14. And I also bet their time spent on tennis and fitness was half or a third of what the academies schedule.

Deep and intense practice, right on the edge of ones current abilities, can't be done over 1.5-2 hours a day. Add in 3 strength/flexibility training sessions per week of 45 minutes per session.

So 1.5-2 hours of quality practice 5-6 days a week....3 45 minute strength/flexibility sessions is more than enough.

I see many kids of equal talent and desire, some academy kids and some who spend 1/3rd the hours on the court....and the academy kids end up no better and sometimes worse. The law of diminished returns applies to tennis practice.

star 5 15
08-29-2009, 04:13 PM
That posted schedule is pretty typical for FL. full time programs....and the exact reason they are vast overkill. I get that the schedule has to satisfy the parents paying lots of money.

But if you were to interview the top 20 men and women I would guess that the vast majority played other sports like soccer until age 12-14. And I also bet their time spent on tennis and fitness was half or a third of what the academies schedule.

Deep and intense practice, right on the edge of ones current abilities, can't be done over 1.5-2 hours a day. Add in 3 strength/flexibility training sessions per week of 45 minutes per session.

So 1.5-2 hours of quality practice 5-6 days a week....3 45 minute strength/flexibility sessions is more than enough.

I see many kids of equal talent and desire, some academy kids and some who spend 1/3rd the hours on the court....and the academy kids end up no better and sometimes worse. The law of diminished returns applies to tennis practice.

I completely agree. Training is about QUALITY not QUANTITY.

kme5150
08-31-2009, 04:39 AM
It is an academy near Tampa. I am not going to say the name because it really doesn't matter. If you call around, almost all the academies have the same schedule for full time. IMG & Saddlebrook have very similar schedules.

I agree with TCFLA and Star that it should be more about quality than quantity.

ClarkC
08-31-2009, 07:14 AM
This is the schedule of one academy in Florida.

7:00 Breakfast
7:10 Transportation to Courts
7:15-8:45 Fitness
9:00 Breakfast
10:20 Transportation to Courts
10:30-12:45 Tennis Program
1:00 Lunch
1:30 Study Time
3:20 Transportation to Courts
3:30-5:15 Tennis Program
5:15-6:45 Fitness Program
7:00 Dinner Time
7:30 Study Time

The academic situation looks like a complete joke. Even if each kid had a personal tutor could this paltry time allotment provide any kind of education at all. Is this some sort of a reduced-study schedule only for the summer session?

10isDad
08-31-2009, 07:41 AM
It is an academy near Tampa. I am not going to say the name because it really doesn't matter. If you call around, almost all the academies have the same schedule for full time. IMG & Saddlebrook have very similar schedules.

I agree with TCFLA and Star that it should be more about quality than quantity.

Neither Saddlebrook nor Bollettieri is similar to what was posted, at least not according to the sites:

Saddlebrook

Middle School
School: 0730 - 1000
Tennis: 1020 - 1220
Lunch: 1220 - 1310
School: 1320 - 1505
Tennis/Fitness: 1515 - 1715

High School
School: 0700 - 1230
Lunch: 1200 - 1250
Tennis: 1300 - 1715

Bollettieri:
Breakfast: 0600 - 0630
Cardio: 0630 - 0700
Tennis: 0700 - 1000
Performance: 1000 - 1100
Lunch: 1130 - 1300
School: afternoon

or

School: morning
Lunch: 1130 - 1300
Tennis: 1330 - 1630
Performance: 1630 - 1730

kme5150
08-31-2009, 11:54 AM
What you see is the standard academy program. For example, some players at Bolletteiri's go to Manatee HS, others are at the Pendleton High School(which is right there at IMG) and some are home schooled.

I know that both places have a lot different training schedules for their very top players than what is listed on their websites....... You have to remember that many of the very top players have private tutors.

10isDad
08-31-2009, 12:31 PM
Not disputing that but your post made it sound as if both Saddlebrook & IMG had standard schedules like the academy mentioned. That's not the case. The "standard" is what's listed. The 'very top' that you mention are the outliers.

kme5150
09-02-2009, 05:19 PM
read my second paragraph again.... :)

10isDad
09-03-2009, 04:42 AM
read your first paragraph again in post 7:

If you call around, almost all the academies have the same schedule for full time. IMG & Saddlebrook have very similar schedules.

As I said, I'm not disputing that some players have different schedules.

35ft6
09-03-2009, 03:34 PM
I completely agree. Training is about QUALITY not QUANTITY.Quality AND quantity matter equally. There's no substitute for simply hitting a lot of balls.