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film1
09-02-2009, 10:05 PM
Can anyone on tw serve break 120?

mtommer
09-02-2009, 11:07 PM
I think Jolly can. Clint Black (?) probably. I think TonLars is working on getting his serve better (and I don't think he hits this hard). Don't equate ball speed with overall tennis ability BTW. I can do around 110. You'll probably find more people in this range, 100 - 110, here on this forum. It's not really all that much of a serve though. 120 on the other hand is much more of a benchmark for a decent serve though IMO. Hopefully I'll get there in a couple of years.

super_forehand
09-02-2009, 11:31 PM
going from 110 to 120 is a matter of a 30 minute fix up from a great coach.

film1
09-02-2009, 11:48 PM
I think big serves are over rated but when your on and can hold serve against much better players you can occassionally pull it out.
I have shoulder and elbow issues, am mid 40s but I can still get it up there
fairly high, not quite like I used to and I pay for it the next couple of days.

Ano
09-03-2009, 03:49 AM
I think Jolly can.


Yes, I think Jolly and Andres Guazelli can. I've seen the videos of both.

Duzza
09-03-2009, 04:23 AM
I don't wanna stir things up but I reckon after a few weeks of solid practice and weight sessions I'd be reaching that. I'm 6'3 so its more realistic. I remember serving into a speedy thing 2 years ago topping at around 180-185.

mtommer
09-03-2009, 10:18 AM
going from 110 to 120 is a matter of a 30 minute fix up from a great coach.

Maybe, I wouldn't know. I can't afford a crappy coach much less a good one unfortunately. <shrug>

hollywood9826
09-03-2009, 10:28 AM
If youre tall you can pretty much bloast 120 fairly easy. Im only 6'1" with shoes but got some decent strength. My tops is 127 and I got pretty unorthodox/bad technique. Although I dont hit many bombs in matches I hold serve alot easier just hitting kickers. I think pure speed is overrated

mtommer
09-03-2009, 12:12 PM
I think pure speed is overrated

Without placement, it is although it can be difficult to contend with if you're a lower level player just because your strokes aren't solid at that point yet. A good way to illustrate this is to have someone you think hits hard hit serves at you but instead of returning them just tap the ball with your racquet so you can catch it, like you're preparing to start serving when the other guy is done.

All of a sudden the pace is pretty easy to handle and you find you can be pretty lackadaisel is doing so. When you get to the higher levels where players have learned how to block back hard serves, using the same "mentality" as catching the ball only applying direction and a bit of swing, you realize how much speed itself just isn't a weapon.

Zielmann
09-03-2009, 12:22 PM
I've never had the chance to clock one of my serves, at least for quite some time. The last time I served at a speed gun, I was hitting second serves. Clocked in around 80mph. I was maybe 15 or 16 at that point.

But I think I'd have some difficulty getting to 120 now. I'm not quite 5'11", and I've also never done any sort of lifting or anything for tennis. But I really would be curious to see where I'm at now.

TripleB
09-03-2009, 12:23 PM
Can anyone on tw serve break 120?

If I were to add my 3 fastest serves together I don't think I'd break 120.

TripleB

flyinghippos101
09-03-2009, 12:30 PM
I can just barely breach the 100 mph barrier, for flat first serves. I'll be lucky to get something like 110

NickC
09-03-2009, 01:09 PM
I can get it somewhere between 110 and 115. If I keep on growing and add a lot more body mass in both muscle and body fat maybe I'll get it up there. I've seen my buddy Rob break 120, but then again he's going to play for UPENN next year and was top 30 or so in the country.

Nanshiki
09-03-2009, 01:13 PM
Probably... but not very consistently, and strings/ball/arm/racquet has to be perfect.

TonLars
09-15-2009, 04:38 PM
I think Jolly can. Clint Black (?) probably. I think TonLars is working on getting his serve better (and I don't think he hits this hard). Don't equate ball speed with overall tennis ability BTW. I can do around 110. You'll probably find more people in this range, 100 - 110, here on this forum. It's not really all that much of a serve though. 120 on the other hand is much more of a benchmark for a decent serve though IMO. Hopefully I'll get there in a couple of years.

I can hit it hard, but I need work on technique and consistency for that kind of serve. 120 is faster than people seem to think, most likely the players you have named are not serving 120 either.

super_forehand
09-15-2009, 04:49 PM
I can hit it hard, but I need work on technique and consistency for that kind of serve. 120 is faster than people seem to think, most likely the players you have named are not serving 120 either.

Yep. Just came back from the US Open. 120 sounds like a monster gunshot, like WTF did that come from? Lots of raquet head speed and acceleration from the legs. I can break 100 but for now that's about it. Those are superflat though, so really theyre of no use for me.