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flyinghippos101
09-14-2009, 07:32 PM
Despite the awesomeness of these shots, Roger should stay away from tweeners at grand slams.

Ultimately, Tweener= grand slam loss

Lendl and Federer Fan
09-14-2009, 07:33 PM
I would say it is stupid of him to show off, so in a way, he deserves to lose this one.

snr
09-14-2009, 07:36 PM
lol maybe.

To be honest though, there really wasn't much more he could do on that shot :P

dh003i
09-14-2009, 07:41 PM
I would say it is stupid of him to show off, so in a way, he deserves to lose this one.

That's silly. He didn't deserve to win because Del Potro won and outplayed him (largely because Fed served poorly). It happens.

He didn't lose because of "karma" from some tweener shot, and he wasn't showing off. From the position he was in, it was really the only shot he could have hit.

Tennis_Monk
09-14-2009, 07:48 PM
I applied the same logic : I will never hit a Forehand or a backhand or a serve at a Grandslam.

Guess what , it worked. It saved my name from being all over the TW forum (imagine threads like is tennis_monk's forehand the 100000999's best forehand in tennis history?)

Against Marat Safin, i would say he tried to be cute. Against Djokovic, he was completely out of position and he only had two plays a) try a lob b) do a tweener. Given his position , both are extremely low percentage shots. he chose (B) and it worked.

dh003i
09-14-2009, 08:01 PM
I applied the same logic : I will never hit a Forehand or a backhand or a serve at a Grandslam.

Guess what , it worked. It saved my name from being all over the TW forum (imagine threads like is tennis_monk's forehand the 100000999's best forehand in tennis history?)

Against Marat Safin, i would say he tried to be cute. Against Djokovic, he was completely out of position and he only had two plays a) try a lob b) do a tweener. Given his position , both are extremely low percentage shots. he chose (B) and it worked.

Yep, your analysis is correct. Except I think the lob wasn't an option because the ball was too low by then.

tenniskid567
09-14-2009, 09:23 PM
Showing off...haha. Players do it all the time, it just doesn't make highlights because most of the time they fire it right back to the net player and lose the point. Its a fun shot to hit, its fun for everyone watching, even Djoker thought it was cool. Its like any other sweet play it any other sport. We love to see big hits in football, and the majority of the time they aren't necessary, and its fun for the player (at least the one making the hit.) We love to see alley-oops on fast breaks and huge slam dunks in basketball games when a lot of the time a lay up would do fine, and its fun for the players. We like to see tweener passing shots because they're more rare than any of those, just as sick and pleasing to the eye, and its fun for the player.

aceX
09-27-2010, 04:25 PM
USO 2010 = Tweener
USO 2010 = Loss

himynameisNIKE
09-27-2010, 04:29 PM
USO 2010 = Tweener
USO 2010 = Loss
USO 2009 = Tweener
USO 2009 = Loss

flyinghippos101
09-27-2010, 04:33 PM
AO 2005 = Tweener (fail)
AO 2005 = Loss

[d]ragon
09-27-2010, 04:33 PM
USO 2009 = Tweener
USO 2009 = Loss

AO2005= Tweener
AO2005= Loss

Rippy
09-27-2010, 04:38 PM
Tweener fail = loss in that match
Tweener success = loss in a match later in the tournament

:shock:

Tennis_Monk
09-27-2010, 06:15 PM
Tweener fail = loss in that match
Tweener success = loss in a match later in the tournament

:shock:

TWEENER SUCCESS = LOSS later in the career.

This is true for every single PRO. if they ever tried tweener in their life at all (even as a kid ) , they will have LOSS later in the career.

Ledigs
09-28-2010, 05:03 AM
Just means that in those matches his footwork wasn't up to par so he was forced to hit ridiculous shots. Instead of setting up the points properly. :)

jackson vile
09-28-2010, 10:04 AM
I would say it is stupid of him to show off, so in a way, he deserves to lose this one.

How dare you question Roger, Roger is above the law!

wangs78
09-28-2010, 10:13 AM
Roger wins the matches where he does a tweener so I would say do more of them.

Gustavo Kuerten
09-28-2010, 10:21 AM
Has anyone ever pointed out how gay ''tweener'' sounds?

MixieP
09-28-2010, 10:57 AM
If he does a tweener he should do it like Schiavone does here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlaC9lBqfeY
... and follow it up with a magnificent running forehand winner. That will keep your opponent quiet for a while.

flyinghippos101
09-28-2010, 03:35 PM
If he does a tweener he should do it like Schiavone does here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlaC9lBqfeY
... and follow it up with a magnificent running forehand winner. That will keep your opponent quiet for a while.

Outright winners will do just fine :)

okdude1992
09-28-2010, 08:53 PM
If he does a tweener he should do it like Schiavone does here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlaC9lBqfeY
... and follow it up with a magnificent running forehand winner. That will keep your opponent quiet for a while.

or he could just do it like he has in the past which is way way better than schiavone's tweener

cp37070
09-28-2010, 09:13 PM
I see no problem with the tweener. Usually it's the best available shot for him to get out of a tough spot. This is not Monfils we're talking about.

nadal_slam_king
09-28-2010, 09:44 PM
If you can run PAST THE BALL and hit a tweener you can certainly run around the side of it and spank it behind you. There is no reason to play this non-tennis-shot.

jerriy
09-28-2010, 10:30 PM
On the contrary, he should do the exact opposite and do a successful tweener in every single match!

After all he actually WINS those tweener matches.

KingOfTennis
09-28-2010, 11:19 PM
If you can run PAST THE BALL and hit a tweener you can certainly run around the side of it and spank it behind you. There is no reason to play this non-tennis-shot.

abit jealous that nadal hasnt really pulled one of these off yet?

nadal_slam_king
09-29-2010, 12:04 AM
abit jealous that nadal hasnt really pulled one of these off yet?

No but plenty of club players have, it sure is sign of greatness :oops:

phoenicks
09-29-2010, 01:05 AM
Fed will never win a GS again regardless of how many ridiculous Tweener or squash shot winner he hits because,

1) he's aging, a step slower
2) overpowered by younger opponent
3) Even if the the opponent is not hurting him, he'll also self explode by hitting ridiculous amount of UE in Off day.
4) Less stamina, less drive

Ocean Drive
09-29-2010, 07:14 AM
"tweener"

......

Must be an American thing.

flyinghippos101
10-04-2010, 05:37 AM
No but plenty of club players have, it sure is sign of greatness :oops:

Nadal failed where club players have gone. Club players=GOATs?

EnigmaticPragmatic
10-04-2010, 06:02 AM
Nadal failed where club players have gone. Club players=GOATs?

This proves that club players can relate to Federer on a visceral level and play his game better than him. :cry:

Tennis_Monk
10-04-2010, 07:15 PM
abit jealous that nadal hasnt really pulled one of these off yet?

How can one even stake claim for GOAT when one cant hit such shots.Nadal cannot be a GOAT until he hits such shots *LOL*

aceX
10-13-2010, 02:43 PM
Let's see how Shanghai goes...

T1000
10-13-2010, 02:48 PM
No but plenty of club players have, it sure is sign of greatness :oops:

I've pulled off Nadal's banana shot before. I guess Nadal sucks then

P_Agony
10-13-2010, 02:53 PM
I would say it is stupid of him to show off, so in a way, he deserves to lose this one.

That's a pretty idiotic statement. Its first of all a legitimate way to win a point, and on the way it also gives the crowd some good time. He deserves to lose when he's being outplayed, not when he's hitting nice shots.

P_Agony
10-13-2010, 02:55 PM
If you can run PAST THE BALL and hit a tweener you can certainly run around the side of it and spank it behind you. There is no reason to play this non-tennis-shot.

The cleaning lady arrived again :-)

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0dx5000fWn09l/610x.jpg

See that dust there? Do something about it!

tiochaota
10-13-2010, 04:33 PM
Lol stupid people, twenner = lose, most absurd bs ive heard . Is like pencil = exam fail, utterly illogical.

flyinghippos101
10-17-2010, 04:24 PM
Might not have been a grand slam but still, this is just weird. :)

BreakPoint
10-17-2010, 04:39 PM
Might not have been a grand slam but still, this is just weird. :)
Yup, seems like every time Federer hits a tweener, he loses the tournament. :(

YodaKnowsBest
10-17-2010, 04:45 PM
hmm if its true that he loses each time he uses it then I say YES. Go for it Roger. :D

AM95
10-17-2010, 06:04 PM
Yup, seems like every time Federer hits a tweener, he loses the tournament. :(

lmfao its unbelievable right?

TACOSRULE
10-17-2010, 06:10 PM
Yup, seems like every time Federer hits a tweener, he loses the tournament. :(

he did the front facing tweener against Henman and won..:)

veroniquem
10-17-2010, 06:21 PM
If you can run PAST THE BALL and hit a tweener you can certainly run around the side of it and spank it behind you. There is no reason to play this non-tennis-shot.
+ who cares about whether one hits a shot between the legs, next to, behind, in front, whatever as long as the shot succeeds?
Ultimate show off shot, matches Fed's megalomania and desperate need for attention of course. :-?

flyinghippos101
10-17-2010, 07:40 PM
+ who cares about whether one hits a shot between the legs, next to, behind, in front, whatever as long as the shot succeeds?
Ultimate show off shot, matches Fed's megalomania and desperate need for attention of course. :-?

Nadal failed at pulling off the ultimate show-off shot, what does that make him? A megalomaniac wannabe? :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg93hjtTQGI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwqpZnwaONE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVKY17O0q1U&feature=related

The-Champ
10-17-2010, 07:45 PM
Nadal failed at pulling off the ultimate show-off shot, what does that make him? A megalomaniac wannabe? :confused:



that means federer aka big-nose should join a circus?

veroniquem
10-17-2010, 07:50 PM
Nadal failed at pulling off the ultimate show-off shot, what does that make him? A megalomaniac wannabe? :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg93hjtTQGI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwqpZnwaONE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVKY17O0q1U&feature=related
That means nothing. I've just tried to explain it 's nothing special. Amusing but in the end not worth more than any other shot unless you're desperately seeking an excuse to gloat...

HunterST
10-17-2010, 08:00 PM
That means nothing. I've just tried to explain it 's nothing special. Amusing but in the end not worth more than any other shot unless you're desperately seeking an excuse to gloat...

I'd just like to point out that neither your infatuation with Nadal, nor your irrational biases for him make you knowledgeable about tennis.

In fact, your constant put downs towards one of the best players of all time (Federer) proves you have very little insight into the game.

I'm more of a Federer fan, but I can admit that Nadal is a great, humble champion. You seem to lack the ability to give Federer even the smallest amount of praise.

Messarger
10-17-2010, 08:32 PM
LOL the streak continues

aceX
10-18-2010, 12:56 PM
Darkness falls across the land
The midnight hour is close at hand
Creatures crawl in search of blood
To terrorize y'alls neighborhood
And whosoever shall be found
Without the soul for getting down
Must stand and face the hounds of hell
And rot inside a corpse's shell

The foulest stench is in the air
The funk of forty thousand years
And grizzly ghouls from every tomb
Are closing in to seal your doom
And though you fight to stay alive
Your body starts to shiver
For no mere mortal can resist
The evil of the tweener

*cue extended dance sequence*

aceX
01-16-2011, 12:43 AM
fed broke the curse at doha

TheFifthSet
01-16-2011, 10:34 AM
That means nothing. I've just tried to explain it 's nothing special. Amusing but in the end not worth more than any other shot unless you're desperately seeking an excuse to gloat...

I think his point was, if Federer is a meglamaniacal show off for attempting that shot, what is Nadal for doing the same?

meg0529
01-16-2011, 10:53 AM
fed broke the curse at doha

the OP said Grand Slam

meg0529
01-16-2011, 10:56 AM
Nadal failed at pulling off the ultimate show-off shot, what does that make him? A megalomaniac wannabe? :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg93hjtTQGI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwqpZnwaONE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVKY17O0q1U&feature=related

Did you miss this one? Pirate Nadal tweens Feddy boi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUeruVqJ2Js

meg0529
01-16-2011, 10:56 AM
abit jealous that nadal hasnt really pulled one of these off yet?

Except he has
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUeruVqJ2Js

flyinghippos101
01-16-2011, 11:02 AM
Did you miss this one? Pirate Nadal tweens Feddy boi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUeruVqJ2Js

That means nothing. I've just tried to explain it 's nothing special. Amusing but in the end not worth more than any other shot unless you're desperately seeking an excuse to gloat...

ummmmm I guess Nadal is a megalomaniac according to Veroniquem? I don't understand, players pull off this shot all the time. If they get a winner off of it, power to them, it gets the crowd up on their feet at the sheer awesomeness of it all.

I get the impression it's not the integrity of the game you're arguing for here, considering how you're easily the most anti-fed poster on these boards

meg0529
01-16-2011, 11:07 AM
ummmmm I guess Nadal is a megalomaniac according to Veroniquem? I don't understand, players pull off this shot all the time. If they get a winner off of it, power to them, it gets the crowd up on their feet at the sheer awesomeness of it all.

I get the impression it's not the integrity of the game you're arguing for here, considering how you're easily the most anti-fed poster on these boards

!! That is NOT true. I have said nice things about rogi, plenty of times! I don't think Fed's a megalomaniac for it. He has fun doing it. I think it's awesome that Rafa keeps attempting it, even though, he has never(?) gotten a winner off of it. It's very Rafa to keep doing something until he can do it successfully.

flyinghippos101
01-16-2011, 11:10 AM
!! that is NOT true. I have said nice things about rogi, plenty of times!

I wasn't referring to you, if anything, you're one of the more moderate Nadal fans. Veroniquem curses Fed while worships Nadal. Her argument is even more baseless if Nadal was able to pull off this shot.

billnepill
01-16-2011, 11:29 AM
+ who cares about whether one hits a shot between the legs, next to, behind, in front, whatever as long as the shot succeeds?
Ultimate show off shot, matches Fed's megalomania and desperate need for attention of course. :-?

hehe, you mean, you like all the shots of Rafa equally as long as they succeed?

Could it be you don't like tennis so much?


ooor you would go great lenghts to simply discredit Federer once again?

meg0529
01-16-2011, 11:39 AM
I wasn't referring to you, if anything, you're one of the more moderate Nadal fans. Veroniquem curses Fed while worships Nadal. Her argument is even more baseless if Nadal was able to pull off this shot.

I'm glad we got that cleared :)

TheFifthSet
01-18-2011, 07:35 PM
I think his point was, if Federer is a meglamaniacal show off for attempting that shot, what is Nadal for doing the same?

Sorry for bumping this up but I just GOTTA hear what justification someone could make of that LOL.