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Brett
04-09-2005, 05:04 PM
See, I'm playing for my high school tennis team as a senior, and I have been playing since I was 12 years old. My plan for college is that I want to go to this private university based off my religion but it is $20,000 a year. Of course there they don't have a tennis team, but yet tennis intramural team.

I was thinking about going to a community college first for maybe 1 or 2 years to save up money, and the community college I want to go to used to have a team, but doesn't have one now. I really want to keep playing tennis once I get out of high school. Badly. I wish I could have been good enough to get a scholarship somewhere. Couldn't I still play D-3 somewhere? The bad thing is, because of my religion I don't play on Saturdays.

So could I play for some USTA league or tournaments? How exactly do they work? I guess I am a 3.0-3.5.

Thanks so much for the feedback. You people rule here.

MegacedU
04-09-2005, 07:20 PM
Twenty grand a year is a realllly good price for college. Embrace it. I'd just stick with that college and play intramural. Do USTA stuff on weekends. I see your issue though. Most, not all but most tournaments take place on saturdays and continue through sunday. However - I'm pretty sure USTA Team Tennis is during the week. It may be different by section but I'd suggest looking into that.

Capt. Willie
04-09-2005, 07:55 PM
I guess I am a 3.0-3.5.

I hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but at 3.5 I seriously doubt you could make a college team. Unless you're in a cold climate (short playing season) in the middle of nowhere, with a small population...and even in that situation it could be tough. Just worry about getting in a school of your choice with academics being the most important factor and then look for someplace to play tennis.

MegacedU
04-09-2005, 07:58 PM
I think that was inappropriate. The kid probably doesn't play much USTA judging by how he spoke of it and most likely has no one influencing what he ranks himself. He could be the best damn player you've ever seen - who knows, it's a self determined titel.

Prince_of_Tennis
04-09-2005, 08:08 PM
USTA you can find a team to play on which has a lot of games. Or go individually and jus play tournaments. Find a local club thats around your level the only thing that sucks about that is you gotta be a memeber but if you can afford 20gs a year then you can afford a club. =)

Superior_Forehand
04-09-2005, 08:26 PM
20,000 a year, good price for a college?? I dont know where you live meg, but I attend a state school where the in-state tuition is like $6,000 a year, not counting scholorships. $20,000 might be good if you are like going to a private school or something. My ex-girlfriend went to a damn good private college and the tuition there was like 25,000 a year.

goober
04-09-2005, 08:26 PM
USTA tournaments start either friday or Saturday and all the ones I have seen are always on the weekend. If you can't play on Saturday I would probably say you would have to play some other way competively. You could always join a local club and play league and ladder matches.

Dopke
04-09-2005, 08:33 PM
Find another community college? The two nearest cc's near where I live- one of which has a team, the other doesn't. Just look around maybe, though that may mean you have to drive a bit further for school, but you get a team.

Morpheus
04-09-2005, 08:40 PM
Brett, your plan is a good one, but it is based on the premise that you want to attend this particular school. If you aren't going to school to study religion, then perhaps you can expand your options some. You can still practice your religion and go to a non-affiliated college. And there are some D3 schools that have a wide variety of talent and you don't have to be great to play. Look around some; its a big world out there. What the heck, you're almost 18 and about to go to college.

MegacedU
04-09-2005, 08:45 PM
20,000 a year, good price for a college?? I dont know where you live meg, but I attend a state school where the in-state tuition is like $6,000 a year, not counting scholorships. $20,000 might be good if you are like going to a private school or something. My ex-girlfriend went to a damn good private college and the tuition there was like 25,000 a year.

Are you kidding?!!!! I live in New York and State schools are 30 grand a year nevermind private ones. If I get into my first choice, or even my second both will be 40 grand a year. Basically everywhere I've looked in fourty grand.

Capt. Willie
04-09-2005, 09:00 PM
I think that was inappropriate. The kid probably doesn't play much USTA judging by how he spoke of it and most likely has no one influencing what he ranks himself. He could be the best damn player you've ever seen - who knows, it's a self determined titel. You can call it inappropriate, I call it being brutally honest. I'm sure Brett will agree that he is not going to be playing on the ATP Tour anytime soon. And as such his education must come first and foremost. While I'm sure he enjoys tennis as much as the rest of us, it should not be the number one priority in his life.

Power Game
04-09-2005, 09:02 PM
$25K is about average for good schools without housing, just tuition. With housing they come up to around 35-40K.

MegacedU
04-09-2005, 09:02 PM
It was just an opinion that's why I said "I think". It was passive. Nothing personal. :)

Superior_Forehand
04-09-2005, 09:09 PM
Are you kidding?!!!! I live in New York and State schools are 30 grand a year nevermind private ones. If I get into my first choice, or even my second both will be 40 grand a year. Basically everywhere I've looked in fourty grand.

Damn! It must be because I live in New Mexico. I must be getting a huge deal and I dont even know it. UNM is the biggest school in New Mexico, with over 25 thousand students, and the tuition is literally under 10 grand a year for in state under grads. Its not like its a crappy school either. They have a good law school, med school, everything.

Even state schools in Arizona and Colorado are only slightly more costly.

Morpheus
04-09-2005, 09:21 PM
Hey, Meg, in-state tuition at SUNY is under $5K.

MegacedU
04-09-2005, 09:36 PM
Morpheus, my brother goes to a SUNY and it's NOT under five grand. Multiply that by five and that's our figure.

Morpheus
04-09-2005, 10:12 PM
Morpheus, my brother goes to a SUNY and it's NOT under five grand. Multiply that by five and that's our figure.

Meg, you may find the following article from the Daily Star interesting then (I pulled out a quote for you):

http://www.thedailystar.com/news/stories/2005/03/24/sun3.html

"A higher-education subcommittee has haggled for the past couple days about tuition at State University of New York campuses, but decided not to raise it. The governor had proposed a $500 increase to the $4,350 that resident undergraduates pay. Both houses rejected the governor’s increase, but the Senate wanted to institute incremental annual increases tied to the Consumer Price Index. That could have meant an increase of about $120 next fall."

AndrewD
04-10-2005, 04:22 AM
Brett, pretty hard for us to advise you without knowing what your priority is. Do you want to go to a college or university based around your religion or do you want to get the best education possible and play some tennis at the same time? Might also be an idea to let folk know what state you are in as some might have first-hand knowledge of the colleges in your area. There are a lot of educational options and you really should explore all of them before choosing. Also, while it would be great to continue playing tennis at college, is it really that important? You can just hook up with a good quality club and play local league and tournaments without needing the college to have their own team.

That being said, I had a friend who played for Hunter college in New York system and he was only around a 3.0-3.5 standard. The team was pretty ordinary but they did get to play. Of course it was anything but fancy, however, it does show there are places to play if you're willing to look. Why not check out the NAIA web site and see what colleges have teams, are in your area and might appeal to you. Dont limit yourself to just strict NCAA Division III schools, there might be something in the NAIA that is more applicable to you.

Brett
04-10-2005, 09:58 AM
First off, thank you guys so much for all the replies. It really means a lot to me. Seriously.

The $20,000 university I'm talking about is a private university and my brother is going there now for 4 years. He said he wish he would have gone to a community college first for maybe 1-2 years to save money. He will have to pay back $500 a month for 12 years once he gets out. I would love to continue to talk to you guys in this thread. Keep posting, please! It really helps out! And what is the NAIA, AndrewD? Also what division is Hunter College? D3?

Also, I live in Mississippi, just about 30 minutes outside of Memphis.

goober
04-10-2005, 10:14 AM
First off, thank you guys so much for all the replies. It really means a lot to me. Seriously.

The $20,000 university I'm talking about is a private university and my brother is going there now for 4 years. He said he wish he would have gone to a community college first for maybe 1-2 years to save money. He will have to pay back $500 a month for 12 years once he gets out. I would love to continue to talk to you guys in this thread. Keep posting, please! It really helps out! And what is the NAIA, AndrewD? Also what division is Hunter College? D3?

Also, I live in Mississippi, just about 30 minutes outside of Memphis.

My personal feeling is that unless you are going to a big name school like an Ivy league, Stanford, ect, going to a state school or community college then to a state school is just fine. I went to a University of California school when it was $1,500 a year ( I think it is somewhere around 6-7K now) and I had friends that went to private schools that graduated with $80,000 worth of debt.

NAIA= National Association of Intercollegiate athletics. They are generally small schools. Here's their website.

http://www.naia.org/index.html

forehander
04-10-2005, 11:05 AM
20 grand a year is expensive, but it is probably the low end of tuition costs for a private school. Check out some more Community Colleges that have tennis. They can be fun and it is easier to make the tennis team. They tend to be more personal with their students than a large institution. Also check out the state universities and look at playing intramurals there.

Some Div III schools can be VERY competitive in tennis. If you are truly a 3.5, you probably could not make the team there. Plus, Div III tend to be very nice, intimate private schools that are very expensive. And, don't forget, Div III does not give athletic scholarships.

Another option is to just join a local club near your school that has an active tennis program. There is plenty of competion there.

TommyGun
04-10-2005, 12:11 PM
Brett,

I'm guessing you are 7th Day Adventist, based on the no Saturday rule.

That would make playing tennis on an organized tennis team in college absolutely un-doable. As a college coach, I will tell you that the majority of tennis matches, due to the 3-5 hour length, are on Saturdays and Sundays. Tennis scholarships are hard to come by, and even though it is one of the cheapest sports a college can have they stricly limit team membership (the largest I have seen is 12, most are 8-10 players). So carrying a player who cannot play most of the time isn't feasible. Sorry.

Intramurals is your best bet.

Coach Tommy Gun

Capt. Willie
04-10-2005, 12:31 PM
I'm guessing you are 7th Day Adventist, based on the no Saturday rule.

That would make playing tennis on an organized tennis team in college absolutely un-doable. This is very true. And also, as I think was mentioned in an earlier post by someone, USTA tournaments are out of the question too for the very same reason. I don't know what religion Brett is (I think you're probably right with 7DA) but if he is an Orthodox Jew the problem is even more complicated as he couldn't play on Friday nights (after sundown) either. Of course he could always convert. :)

Brett
04-10-2005, 07:41 PM
I am a 7th Day Adventist. I hate this :(

So my only option after high school is to do what to continue playing tennis?

And I wish I knew what to major in, too.

Phil
04-10-2005, 07:49 PM
Are you kidding?!!!! I live in New York and State schools are 30 grand a year nevermind private ones. If I get into my first choice, or even my second both will be 40 grand a year. Basically everywhere I've looked in fourty grand.

No state or public university costs "30 grand a year" even in overpriced NY. Morpheus did the basic research. He is correct. Do some research before you make such ill informed statements.

New York University, despite the name SOUNDING like a state or city school, is not a public school. Perhaps this confused you. NYU is private and is quite expensive.

New Balls
04-10-2005, 09:49 PM
Thanks Phil for pointing this out. Most state schools are actually quite a value. Regarding in-state tuition, and tuition costs alone: the University of Texas schools (except Austin) are also about $4k a yr. Also consider the aforementioned UC schools. I'm just guessing they're about $6k a yr. They consistently rank among the top public schools in the country (all 7 were in the top 50). Note also SUNY schools rank among the better public schools.

atatu
04-10-2005, 10:21 PM
Well, I think Meg is going to Columbia, so her frame of reference may be a little off. Still, I know people in Austin who are paying $15K a year to send their kids to private high schools, that, I cannot believe....

TommyGun
04-11-2005, 09:16 AM
Brett,

Start your own 7th Day Adventist league! There are a lot of you guys and gals out there, and you could be the first to really bring these tennis players into the fold.

I'm not kidding. Contact the USTA in NY, and ask for the "special populations and community relations people. Explain to them your religious restrictions and that you want to begin a league or association for people like you. They will send you good information and should work with you to get it going. In addition, there might be grant money available to help you get it started.

If you start a league, or organize your own tournaments not only will you get to play forever, but you will have a great time and make a lot of new friends.

Give it a try, and I bet many of the posters here will give you help as well.

tommy gun

TommyGun
04-11-2005, 09:18 AM
Oh, and Brett I'm guessing you are in Texas. If you are, and you love tennis, you can take courses at Tyler in tennis management.

Kaptain Karl
04-11-2005, 09:56 AM
Brett - There's a thread on here about scholarships to Div III or NAIA schools. It has some commentary you might find useful.

Many CC teams are actually pretty good. (The one in Meg's area I remember, HVCC, had a team that could regularly "take" Div II teams.)

Look around. There are a lot of options.

- KK

Kaptain Karl
04-11-2005, 10:12 AM
Brett - Tommy makes a great suggestion. Dont "give up." Figure out a way to fit tennis into your life ... and the lives of many 7DA tennis players.

I received LOTS of help from the nearby USTA offices in setting up our Town Ladder. (Turned out, since we have NO available facility in our town with more than two courts, we cannot have a USTA League here. [The school, where I am the HS Coach, has four courts; but the rental fee the District would charge a League is nuts.])

Our ladder isn't "official USTA" anything, but they were really a big help establishing it. They want tennis to be available to everyone and will go out of their way to help you make it happen.

- KK

MegacedU
04-11-2005, 12:56 PM
No state or public university costs "30 grand a year" even in overpriced NY. Morpheus did the basic research. He is correct. Do some research before you make such ill informed statements.

New York University, despite the name SOUNDING like a state or city school, is not a public school. Perhaps this confused you. NYU is private and is quite expensive.

Thank you but I know NYU isn't a state school. I'm applying there - I should know. If I ever get to it, I'll show you all some of the college board's figures - since apparently that's where I got my ILL INFORMED statements.

I'll be going to college in the near future - I've toured and prepared and decided. I have researched.

MegacedU
04-11-2005, 12:58 PM
Brett - There's a thread on here about scholarships to Div III or NAIA schools. It has some commentary you might find useful.

Many CC teams are actually pretty good. (The one in Meg's area I remember, HVCC, had a team that could regularly "take" Div II teams.)

Look around. There are a lot of options.

- KK

Good old Harvard on the Hudson.

MegacedU
04-11-2005, 01:26 PM
One more Post : I did just check Collegeboard.com

If you're ever interested - In the college quick finder, type in a SUNY school like Geneseo or Binghampton or even the United State's #1 party school. (SUNY Albany) You'll see that out of state expenses easily reach upwards of at least TWENTY grand.

cak
04-11-2005, 05:24 PM
Look for USTA League play. Often the adult leagues play weeknights and Sundays. You may not be available for a few games, but if you find a team with home games on Sundays or weeknights you would be available for most matches.

Capt. Willie
04-11-2005, 09:03 PM
And I wish I knew what to major in, too. Brett, since you don't know what to major in, I strongly think you should start at your local CC for a year or two...than transfer.

Capt. Willie
04-11-2005, 09:12 PM
the United State's #1 party school. (SUNY Albany) SUNY Albany is the #1 party school in the US?...or you mean in NY? I always thought U Miami (Florida) AKA Sun Tan U was the #1 party school. And as far as New York, I thought SUNY New Paltz was. Of course I'm a bit out of the loop on these things.

Phil
04-11-2005, 09:20 PM
One more Post : I did just check Collegeboard.com

If you're ever interested - In the college quick finder, type in a SUNY school like Geneseo or Binghampton or even the United State's #1 party school. (SUNY Albany) You'll see that out of state expenses easily reach upwards of at least TWENTY grand.

Okay, but that's not 30 or 40K as you previously said, so obviously, you had to go back and change the figure. Wrong is wrong. The kid asked for information, not b.s. Out of state tuition is a different story, anyway. It might be worth it to go to a fine state school, like UofC Berkeley, UNC or U of Michigan-especially grad school...but SUNY ALBANY? You'd have to be an idiot.

DurablePants
04-11-2005, 10:31 PM
but SUNY ALBANY? You'd have to be an idiot.
lol lol lol

Kaptain Karl
04-12-2005, 09:07 AM
Ah-hem.... This *idiot* graduated from SUNY Albany.

I challenge Phil to a DUAL (tennis, of course).

- KK

atatu
04-12-2005, 09:27 AM
Back when I was going to UC Santa Barbara we were always ranked as one of the top party schools along with UVA, sad to see that we've been replaced by SUNY and Miami....next you'll tell me we aren't the top rated surfing school in the nation.

norcal
04-12-2005, 09:33 AM
Ah-hem.... This *idiot* graduated from SUNY Albany.

I challenge Phil to a DUAL (tennis, of course).

- KK I think Phil meant you would be an idiot if you paid out of state rates to go to those schools. I'm sure you didn't Kap'n Krunch.

MegacedU
04-12-2005, 01:39 PM
I think calling someone an idiot for going to ANY college is an "ill-informed" statement. I never changed any of my previous posts. I said 40 grand for private institutions and upwards of 20 grand to nearly 30 for state schools. No one ever said anything about in-state out-of-state.

Did you attend all three Universities Phil? Or is that yet another thing you're an expert on and I'm inferior on?

Btw - If you're going on the fact by the "fine universities'" reputations, then that's just as incorrect as going on the reputation of SUNY Albany.

MegacedU
04-12-2005, 01:42 PM
SUNY Albany is the #1 party school in the US?...or you mean in NY? I always thought U Miami (Florida) AKA Sun Tan U was the #1 party school. And as far as New York, I thought SUNY New Paltz was. Of course I'm a bit out of the loop on these things.

Nope it's SUNY Albany is in the US according to this year's...figures. I was shocked too.

dewey4262
04-12-2005, 02:08 PM
Cousin just started at NYU with board its pushing $45 grand a year.

Kaptain Karl
04-12-2005, 03:16 PM
I think Phil meant you would be an idiot if you paid out of state rates to go to those schools. I'm sure you didn't Kap'n Krunch.Oh. On rereading Phil's post, I see that's probably what he meant. (But it was kind of a thrill, issuing a challenge like that....)

I paid instate tuition ... and it turned-out that SUNYA tuition was just barely more than my costs at the little NAIA school I'd been attending (on half-scholarship). I got a much more rigorous education ... played a tougher tennis schedule ... and made contacts which helped me end up on SUNYA’s faculty as a tennis teacher. (That was a trip!)

- KK

Phil
04-12-2005, 06:37 PM
Oh. On rereading Phil's post, I see that's probably what he meant. (But it was kind of a thrill, issuing a challenge like that....)

I paid instate tuition ... and it turned-out that SUNYA tuition was just barely more than my costs at the little NAIA school I'd been attending (on half-scholarship). I got a much more rigorous education ... played a tougher tennis schedule ... and made contacts which helped me end up on SUNYA’s faculty as a tennis teacher. (That was a trip!)

- KK

Correct, Karl-that's what I meant. I went to a state school too, and I'd say the same thing about an out-of-stater paying 20K to attend my own alma mater. Albany (and the location of the school I attended ) is COLD in winter (and fall and spring), so unless you're a resident, then...WTF??

MegacedU
04-12-2005, 06:47 PM
Ever checked out the night life and surroundings of Alb? I know you're there for "education", but there's more to life.

Phil
04-12-2005, 07:12 PM
I think calling someone an idiot for going to ANY college is an "ill-informed" statement. I never changed any of my previous posts. I said 40 grand for private institutions and upwards of 20 grand to nearly 30 for state schools. No one ever said anything about in-state out-of-state.

Did you attend all three Universities Phil? Or is that yet another thing you're an expert on and I'm inferior on?

Btw - If you're going on the fact by the "fine universities'" reputations, then that's just as incorrect as going on the reputation of SUNY Albany.

No, you said "...I live in New York and State schools are 30 grand a year nevermind private ones. ...Basically everywhere I've looked in fourty grand."!

I don't see anything about "upwards of 20 grand to nearly 30 for state schools..." anywhere. Let me know if I missed that one. You only changed the figure to 20 AFTER I, Morpheus and a couple others pointed out that the figures you claimed were way too high. THEN, you went and looked it up, which you could have done in the first place if you weren't so...lazy?? Oh, let's not raise THAT one again. And now you're downplaying previous comments-now it's not "ARE" 30K a year, but "UPWARDS of 20K to NEARLY 30". C'mon, who you trying to bullshiat here?

It's not a crime or a personal failing to admit that something you said is incorrect, and then own up to it. I've done the same on this board. Instead of ARGUING with the person who takes the time to correct me, I've said, "Oh, my bad. Thanks for pointing that out." That's all. End of story. Otherwise, you look like an *** and it IS a personal failure to try and come off as being in the know in a situation where you just don't have the facts. Better yet, if you're not SURE about something, just don't say ANYTHING-don't run your mouth like you know it. This is just a nice little chat board, but one thing it isn't is your high school, Meg. Unlike your school, people here don't think you're the cat's meow and latch on to everything you say. Mommy and daddy aren't going to pat you on the head and encourage the attitude. If you sprout b.s., someone is going to say, "That's b.s." Get used to it and deal with it-it's a lot closer to the real world than H.S.

Since you THINK you know everything, and cannot be told anything new, I'm not sure why you even need to attend college or have a tennis coach. You know better than the coach or the profs, so why bother? Start your own religious cult, convince people that you are a god and have them give you all their worldly possessions. That's your ticket.

New Balls
04-12-2005, 11:55 PM
Start your own religious cult, convince people that you are a god and have them give you all their worldly possessions. That's your ticket.

If anyone should opt for this route, I recommend Waco, TX. Sure they had a little fiasco there, but it's on the upswing, and just think, right next to the Baylor courts and the Dr. Pepper museum!!!

MegacedU
04-13-2005, 02:43 PM
Phil, why do I always end up offending you somehow? You make everything so personal. Like I maliciously fabricated state school figures just to B.S whoever the hell started this thread? Please. You're the one that acts like you know everything.

Brett
04-13-2005, 04:43 PM
Brett,

Start your own 7th Day Adventist league! There are a lot of you guys and gals out there, and you could be the first to really bring these tennis players into the fold.

I'm not kidding. Contact the USTA in NY, and ask for the "special populations and community relations people. Explain to them your religious restrictions and that you want to begin a league or association for people like you. They will send you good information and should work with you to get it going. In addition, there might be grant money available to help you get it started.

If you start a league, or organize your own tournaments not only will you get to play forever, but you will have a great time and make a lot of new friends.

Give it a try, and I bet many of the posters here will give you help as well.

tommy gun

Thanks for all the help man. You think I should still try to do that, even though they have an intramural team at that 7th day Adventist university?

And I live in Mississippi, not Texas.

Phil
04-13-2005, 08:03 PM
Phil, why do I always end up offending you somehow? You make everything so personal. Like I maliciously fabricated state school figures just to B.S whoever the hell started this thread? Please. You're the one that acts like you know everything.

Offend? I don't even take this seriously. Methinks you're a mite bit too sensitive. Years of coddling, no doubt. Nope, I don't know everything; in fact, my knowledge doesn't even amount to a dust speck. I just call it as I see it, and NONE of it is personal. Lose the attitude is my only suggestion.

Meg, I don't know who wrote this, but take it to heart:

"A fool claims to know everything, while the wise man acknowledges just how much he doesn't know", or something like that. Learn it, live it, love it.

TommyGun
04-13-2005, 11:32 PM
Brett bud,

Intramurals are okay, and I would check it out.

Either way, I would start a league or campus team. First, the experience will give you a leg up when you are finally out of school and still want to play. Second, you will meet a lot of hot bodies. Third, you might be able to use it if the college has a volunteer hour requirement to graduate. Fourth...

Learn how to form and run leagues and tournaments and you will have all the tennis in the whole world...

Coda
04-14-2005, 12:26 AM
Brett, I'm 18 and will be attending college next year too. I'm in somewhat of the same situation, I love to play tennis and would really like to play on a team next year, but was torn between what to do college selection wise like you are. In a situation like this Brett, you have to think about the overall picture. In this case, the overall picture is an excellent education. An excellent education will allow you to get a good job. In the grand scheme of things, getting a good job and preparing yourself to be financially sound is much more important than playing tennis during your college days. If I were you, I would go to your 7DA academy and worry about playing tennis when you actually get there. Intramurals is a good place to play anyway and you could play at the local club around town providing further competition. As for me, I received an offer from U of Nevada at Reno to play, which is a good school but I decided to go to UC Davis. I'm going to worry about my education first and foremost and worry about tennis when I get there...I know I'll be able to find people who want to play...as you will be able to at your academy.

PS My entire college expence is sub 10K for tuition, room and board and keep in mind it's in the budget impacted U of California system. Anyone who suggests anything as high as 20K anywhere for instate tuition is crazy.

MegacedU
04-14-2005, 12:23 PM
Lol, what attitude?

Phil
04-14-2005, 06:21 PM
Lol, what attitude?

There you go, always proving my point and making me look smarter than I actually am. Take a looksie at Coda's post above. There's a mature and intelligent-sounding post from one of your contemporaries. Kinda refreshing, considering the brats who post here.

MegacedU
04-15-2005, 08:24 PM
TOUCHE! Accent over the E. I'm pretty sure you just called me a brat. I don't know what you think, but I think that's a pretty "ill-informed" statement, considering you dont ACTUALLY know me. K thanks.

Coda
04-16-2005, 12:10 AM
you defend yourself from being called a brat then end your post with "k thanks" like "thanks for your try, but you failed." You just proved Phil's point with that comment.

MegacedU
04-16-2005, 07:36 AM
I was being facetious and it was plain to see that.

Morpheus
04-16-2005, 07:56 AM
Hey, Meg, a piece of advice. When you get in these tangles, it's best just to leave it alone and move on. Otherwise, you end up defending something that can't be defended, because everyone just piles on.

Superior_Forehand
04-16-2005, 08:19 AM
Phil, chill out dude. I don't see Meg doing anything wrong.

MegacedU
04-16-2005, 12:34 PM
I felt the need to defend myself, there was certainly not anyone else that was going to.

Thank you superior forehand, I didn't see Meg do anything wrong either. :)

Morpheus
04-16-2005, 06:35 PM
Ok, well then, next time be more certain of your facts before posting...

MegacedU
04-16-2005, 08:50 PM
I was and am. No one ever said go to a state college in your own state. And 20 grand is cheap - considering the abundance of 40 thousanders.

Phil
04-17-2005, 04:26 AM
This kid keeps digging the hole even deeper. Listen to Morpheus...if you haven't got a leg to stand on, sit.

TommyGun
04-17-2005, 04:55 AM
Brett,

The USTA has a national tournament for campus teams (league tennis not the official team.) Even if your team had to forfeit all the matches on the Saturday, you could go, often the travel is paid for by the USTA, and you can meet a ton of great people both at your school and across the country.

Its also never to early to learn a skill or two that will definitely benefit you later in life...

Datacipher
04-17-2005, 05:19 AM
I just read this entire thread.

Thanks Coda, a person could get pretty pessimistic reading some of the posts of young people here. It's nice to be reminded that there are young people who can present themselves as sensible, mature, articulate and bright. It sounds like you've got a good head on your shoulders and your priorities straight, nice to know your research was not limited to: what are the top party schools? I wish you and Brett good luck on the hard work ahead and I hope you enjoy your tennis and studies(at least some of the them ;-) ) You're both in for some big learning experiences in the classroom and outside it.

On the subject of Hunter college, now I'm up in Canada and don't know the first thing about it, but I believe that Tennis magazine wrote a lengthy article once about the coach and team. I seem to remember the level of play varied wildly from talented 5.5 to rather hackish sounding sub 4.0's.

Brett
04-17-2005, 07:55 AM
Ok two things. First off, how do you get a scholarship at a certain college for tennis. Do they contact you most of the time, or do you have to contact them? I know I won't get one, I'm just wondering.

And secondly, I noticed my Uncle who plays in a USTA league has all his matches on Thursdays. So I guess that means you can request certain days, and I can do that and not play on Saturday?

New Balls
04-17-2005, 06:48 PM
Most USTA matches are subject to the availability of courts. A 4.5 league in Texas was played exlusively on Wed. night, to the protest of most players who had jobs and the glee of the captains who just so happened to say no court times were available on the weekend when all the better players were able to play. In SoCal these matches are played on either a Sat or Sun, sometimes alternating, although it's up to the captains to decide.

SaritaUTHorns
04-17-2005, 07:10 PM
Meg, I don't know who wrote this, but take it to heart:

"A fool claims to know everything, while the wise man acknowledges just how much he doesn't know", or something like that. Learn it, live it, love it.

Wasn't it Socrates? I know he at least said something similar to that.

Phil
04-17-2005, 07:24 PM
Wasn't it Socrates? I know he at least said something similar to that.

You're right! I looked it up, and there are a couple similar quotes, here:

http://www.quoteworld.org/author.php?thetext=Socrates+(470%3F-399+BC)

SaritaUTHorns
04-17-2005, 07:27 PM
Brett, I'm 18 and will be attending college next year too. I'm in somewhat of the same situation, I love to play tennis and would really like to play on a team next year, but was torn between what to do college selection wise like you are. In a situation like this Brett, you have to think about the overall picture. In this case, the overall picture is an excellent education. An excellent education will allow you to get a good job. In the grand scheme of things, getting a good job and preparing yourself to be financially sound is much more important than playing tennis during your college days. If I were you, I would go to your 7DA academy and worry about playing tennis when you actually get there. Intramurals is a good place to play anyway and you could play at the local club around town providing further competition. As for me, I received an offer from U of Nevada at Reno to play, which is a good school but I decided to go to UC Davis. I'm going to worry about my education first and foremost and worry about tennis when I get there...I know I'll be able to find people who want to play...as you will be able to at your academy.

PS My entire college expence is sub 10K for tuition, room and board and keep in mind it's in the budget impacted U of California system. Anyone who suggests anything as high as 20K anywhere for instate tuition is crazy.

I agree. I'm a freshman at The University of Texas at Austin, and while I love tennis, I did not even take it into consideration when choosing which college to attend. You can play tennis anywhere, whether it be on a varsity team, club team, intramural, or just for recreation. And if you don't know what you want to major in, choose a school that has a wide variety of options so you can "test the waters" in different subjects until you find what you're good at or interested in. Another thing that's important when choosing a college is whether or not you feel like you belong there. When you walk on a college campus you either feel good about it or you don't. When I set foot here at UT, I knew this was the place for me (yes, it probably sounds a bit corny, but it's true). I felt comfortable and knew whatever I decided to do with my life could be accomplished here. All the rest, including tennis, will follow. You will always be able to find a way to continue playing. Worry about your academics first. They will be far more important in the long-run.

SaritaUTHorns
04-17-2005, 07:42 PM
You're right! I looked it up, and there are a couple similar quotes, here:

http://www.quoteworld.org/author.php?thetext=Socrates+(470%3F-399+BC)

Thanks for the link. I enjoyed reading his quotes. I admire him for not considering himself "wise" even though he's considered the wisest man in history by most. But I guess that is what makes him so wise isn't it? hehe :D

MegacedU
04-17-2005, 07:59 PM
See, you made a friend on my behalf. Ha.

Brett
04-22-2005, 02:52 PM
Hmm, what to do, what to do....

Brett
04-24-2005, 08:24 AM
Bump, now on more help on which college path to choose...

MegacedU
04-24-2005, 10:11 AM
Go to NYU and major in English. It'll be a great time.

Brett
04-24-2005, 10:32 AM
Waiting for serious replies.

SaritaUTHorns
04-24-2005, 10:48 AM
Brett, have you visited any colleges? Like I said, don't worry about the tennis aspect because you'll be able to play anywhere. Find a place where you feel comfortable and like you belong there. And also a place with a wide variety of majors since you don't know what you want to do yet.

MegacedU
04-24-2005, 11:18 AM
Well, excuse me for trying to lighten the moment. Brett I'm in your situation too, you're forgetting this. Calm down a little. We're all pyschotic with all the stuff for college that we have to do. Don't go crazy over it.

* I reserve the right to retract this, once I get rejected from Columbia.