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FedExpress117
10-09-2009, 04:52 PM
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lz02h&s=4
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2a7he8z&s=4
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=actxll&s=4

Is it semi western, western, extreme western, what? The first picture makes it easiest to tell. I've gotten mixed answers before and really want to know what I'm using before I start stepping up my game (if I know what grip I'm using, I can try and use the strengths of that grip).

ahile02
10-09-2009, 04:54 PM
Either strong semi-western or western. I'd prolly lean more towards western

FedExpress117
10-09-2009, 05:00 PM
Funny how I know about the grips but not what it looks like. Anyways I'm trying to get more towards the semi western, I think I now know what you're talking about. The SW lets you flatten it out as well as put spin, and Western is kind of tough to use on a hardcourt and with low balls. Seems like I'd be better off moving that V to the left to where Eastern is (but not actually using Eastern).

ahile02
10-09-2009, 05:10 PM
Yeah, the semi-western offers a nice balance between putting spin on the ball and trying to flatten it out. That's what I use. Looking again at the first pic, I'm gonna go with western as to what grip you are using.

Welcome to the forum

FedExpress117
10-09-2009, 05:18 PM
Yea it's just so hard to change the grip considering when a match comes around I have to use what gets the job done and not what I've been working on before. And it's just so hard to follow through with western. I see Djokovic following through more with a Western than any other player, I'm trying to look at his stroke more closely. Perhaps I need more of a technique change than a grip change.

Thanks by the way, this was just the type of community I've been looking for actually.

ahile02
10-09-2009, 05:32 PM
You'll find great tips and instruction here. Some of the technical tips and analysis I've found are amazing. I'd highly recommend you post a video of you playing on here, then you'll have people analyzing you strokes and really able to help you out.

Also, go through the "Useful Threads" sticky thread at the top of the Instructions page and you can find links to all different kinds of tips and feedback for everything and anything you can think of. Also, use the search feature and search away for whatever help you need.

tricky
10-09-2009, 05:42 PM
One way to learn grips is by bevel number. Here's a good site for that:

http://www.tennisgeometrics.com/

FedExpress117
10-09-2009, 05:56 PM
I might have to look into the video thing, I haven't really seen myself playing either and that would be a huge help. I think I will try to switch to Semi Western, I want to push more through my shots, Western gives me spin but I feel like the technique I'm using with Western is trying to force a Semi Western type motion. Because now I remember people I know that were using Western and their techniques were different and they got more topspin. I'll naturally get more topspin with my motion. Thanks for everyone's input, I'll see what I can do.

J011yroger
10-09-2009, 06:20 PM
You are right on the line between SW and Full Western.

I use a very similar grip for the majority of my FHs.

In play I float between extreme eastern and full western.

J

FedExpress117
10-09-2009, 06:27 PM
Well guys I just turned 18 and I'm young enough to still change, you think I should go fully semi western while I can? I do feel often that I want to follow through with a lot of my shots and just do the top spin with the natural wrist action or down to up motion instead of what the western gives me. It'll be ridiculously tough to switch but it might be worth it. I definitely can't do Eastern but Semi Western might be preferable though it'll be sort of weird after using this Western for a year and a half.

ubermeyer
10-09-2009, 06:35 PM
3/4 western

FedExpress117
10-09-2009, 06:39 PM
^So for the record western is 3/4 the way on the 5 Bezel?

WildVolley
10-09-2009, 08:12 PM
Your hand is far enough under the racket that I'd call that a Western.

You definitely hold farther under the racket than Nadal, and a lot of people call his fh grip a Western.

ScoopsHaaganDazs
10-09-2009, 08:53 PM
I'd call your grip western. I personally think semi-western is the best grip to use if you were to learn a new grip. Like you said before, easy to put topspin or hit flat. Your wrist, shoulder, or knee might start hurting or feeling uncomfortable if you use western a lot. It really depends on your form and how often you play though. Western is a high maintenance grip imo. You have to keep using it a lot or else you start to lose your strokes.

jmjmkim
10-09-2009, 09:12 PM
It looks a tad past Semi-Western. I like it between Eastern and Semi West.

wyutani
10-09-2009, 09:27 PM
hawaiian forehand. epic.

Bud
10-10-2009, 01:54 AM
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lz02h&s=4
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2a7he8z&s=4
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=actxll&s=4

Is it semi western, western, extreme western, what? The first picture makes it easiest to tell. I've gotten mixed answers before and really want to know what I'm using before I start stepping up my game (if I know what grip I'm using, I can try and use the strengths of that grip).

Appears to be SW from the pics. I use a SW and my hand is in the eact same position as yours. Your pointer finger is on bevel number 5, correct?

Place the racquet on the ground and then pick it up. That's a SW grip.

Bud
10-10-2009, 02:04 AM
^So for the record western is 3/4 the way on the 5 Bezel?

No, for the western grip... your pointer finger would be on bevel 6. You're dead on SW.

See both examples below.


Here is SW:
http://www.busy-tennis-players.com/images/SemiWesternForehandGripWithMarkings.jpg


Western:
http://www.busy-tennis-players.com/images/WesternForehandGripWithMarkings.jpg


Bevel Layout:
http://www.busy-tennis-players.com/images/RacketButtCapWithNumbering.jpg

Tim Tennis
10-10-2009, 04:54 AM
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lz02h&s=4
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2a7he8z&s=4
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=actxll&s=4

Is it semi western, western, extreme western, what? The first picture makes it easiest to tell. I've gotten mixed answers before and really want to know what I'm using before I start stepping up my game (if I know what grip I'm using, I can try and use the strengths of that grip).

The first photo looked like the Semi-Western, the second looked like an Eastern and the third photo looked like the Continental grip. How many wraps do you have on the racquet? It was hard to pick up the bevels in the photos.

I would definitely recommend the Semi-Western grip. It is not that hard to transition from the Western or the Eastern forehand to the Semi-Western grip. It is just a one bevel move one way or the other. The key to mastering a new grip is to be able to place your hand accurately in the new grip position time after time. When you are confident where your hand is on the handle then you can modify your swing path, contact point and make changes in the hand/wrist angle to achieve the correct racquet head angle. For example if you use the Eastern forehand your hand/wrist is in the hand shake position. To have the correct racquet head angle for the Semi-Western grip you have to roll your wrist back approximately 45 degrees clockwise. That is why the Power V Grips are so beneficial to anyone who wants to master a new grip. They provide a powerful frame of reference for placing your hand on the handle that you just don't get with a regular shaped handle in addition to providing increased leverage and traction. Check out the link, it just might give you a whole new understanding of this great game and the importance of the grip.

http://www.tennisgeometrics.com/SemiWestern_power_forehand.html

Best regards,

Ed
President

Tennis Geometrics
http://www.tennisgeometrics.com