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ubermeyer
10-09-2009, 09:11 PM
I've watched a few videos of pros playing 10-point tiebreakers instead of 7-pt tiebreaks in singles when a set goes 6-all. What's up with this?

it was in LA open

edmondsm
10-09-2009, 10:56 PM
They play a "super tiebreaker" on the doubles tour, instead of playing a 3rd set. I believe it's a 10 point tie-breaker. I have never heard of them doing it in singles. Got a video?

Carsomyr
10-10-2009, 12:33 AM
They play a "super tiebreaker" on the doubles tour, instead of playing a 3rd set. I believe it's a 10 point tie-breaker. I have never heard of them doing it in singles. Got a video?

They did it in the Federer/Blake, McEnroe/Borg exhibitions last year after each match (single set events) went to a tiebreak.

IvanAndreevich
10-10-2009, 12:35 AM
Basically that's not in accordance with the official rules of tennis.

ubermeyer
10-10-2009, 11:13 AM
hi guys, I do have video. I doubt it was an exhibition because they (Guccione and Young) are both mid-level, not well known pros. Also note that, although in the first video Guccione won the tiebreak by 2 points (11-9), he did not win when the score was 8-6, even though he would have if it was a 7-point tiebreaker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDyUzhCB6mg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxNMP72Xnyk

Claudius
10-10-2009, 11:26 AM
The current tiebreaker is called a 12-point tiebreaker.

ubermeyer
10-10-2009, 11:33 AM
The current tiebreaker is called a 12-point tiebreaker.
but the final score of the 1st video was 11-9... it didn't go to 12 points

IvanAndreevich
10-10-2009, 11:35 AM
hi guys, I do have video. I doubt it was an exhibition because they (Guccione and Young) are both mid-level, not well known pros. Also note that, although in the first video Guccione won the tiebreak by 2 points (11-9), he did not win when the score was 8-6, even though he would have if it was a 7-point tiebreaker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDyUzhCB6mg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxNMP72Xnyk

Like I said, this is not an official match.

http://www.latennisopen.com/TournamentInfo/~/link.aspx?_id=1F32B9F2DCAE499CB427B989ABCC4FD4&_z=z

ubermeyer
10-10-2009, 11:43 AM
Like I said, this is not an official match.

http://www.latennisopen.com/TournamentInfo/~/link.aspx?_id=1F32B9F2DCAE499CB427B989ABCC4FD4&_z=z (http://www.latennisopen.com/TournamentInfo/%7E/link.aspx?_id=1F32B9F2DCAE499CB427B989ABCC4FD4&_z=z)

so in this wild card shootout thing, they don't play official matches??? weird stuff, but cool

IvanAndreevich
10-10-2009, 11:47 AM
so in this wild card shootout thing, they don't play official matches??? weird stuff, but cool

Well, it doesn't count towards the H2H and doesn't contribute to the win-loss ratio. It's not a tour match.

I guess the rules are modified so that the qualy guys aren't completely exhausted for the main draw.

darthpwner
10-10-2009, 01:48 PM
Hey those are my dad's videos. Yea they are playing the wildcard shoot-out for a spot in the main draw at the LA tennis open.

edmondsm
10-10-2009, 02:35 PM
but the final score of the 1st video was 11-9... it didn't go to 12 points

He means 12 total points. When the players get to 6-6 then the next person to lead by two points wins.

ubermeyer
10-10-2009, 03:08 PM
Hey those are my dad's videos. Yea they are playing the wildcard shoot-out for a spot in the main draw at the LA tennis open.

dude your dad takes awesome videos.

ubermeyer
10-10-2009, 03:09 PM
He means 12 total points. When the players get to 6-6 then the next person to lead by two points wins.

not in this case... guccione was up 8-6 at one point but didn't win

anyway as IvanAndreevich says this is not an official match... so i guess they just made up different rules for this shootout thing

vbranis
10-10-2009, 04:07 PM
Whoever reaches 10 points first wins. Must win by 2. Don't ask me why, but these are the rules for the shootout.

RCizzle65
10-10-2009, 11:59 PM
Nice vids....both seemed to have no first serve in the first one with Young and Guccioni....

psp2
10-11-2009, 07:03 AM
One of the comments posted on youtube says.........

"They are fighting for a spot on the main draw by playing tie breakers in a round robin format for the 2009 LA Tennis Open."

gunnd5000
10-11-2009, 05:20 PM
I hate super tie breaks lost loads of matches in em. lost one
0-6(fastest set ive ever won about 7-8mins) 7-6 (12-10) lost super tie break 10-8(was 9-1 down brought it back to -8 and he fire an ace. one of avery few matchs i remember in detail lol. i realy need to be down to play my best tennis so i always choose to recive i find it hard to serve out matches although i can hold it consistently most matches till it counts. not mentally tough enough

ubermeyer
10-11-2009, 05:29 PM
Nice vids....both seemed to have no first serve in the first one with Young and Guccioni....

lol, Guccione has a bad 1st serve?

RCizzle65
10-11-2009, 09:26 PM
I mean they weren't hitting many first serves in that tiebreak.

OliverSimon
10-12-2009, 06:45 AM
Thats an interesting idea!