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SuperDuy
10-11-2009, 08:41 PM
Title says it all, I personally think Any Roddick would, because he understands the game more than lleyton although hewitt is older and has more experience around the game.

Karlovic's Sunglasses
10-11-2009, 08:45 PM
Roddick would probably be more clear.

jamesblakefan#1
10-11-2009, 08:52 PM
Hewitt to me. I've seen him talk about the game in interviews and stuff, and he seems very knowledgeable about the game. He's been able to adapt his game, even while being at a lower level physically, to still be effective out on tour. Adapting and changing of game is not something that is Roddick's strong suit.

SuperDuy
10-11-2009, 08:53 PM
Roddick would probably be more clear.

Same what I was thinking.

nfor304
10-11-2009, 08:53 PM
I dont think either would be particularly good coaches.

But I would say Hewitt over Roddick

flyinghippos101
10-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Lleyton, for how to **** off your opponents and get spat at in the face. He's the guy to go to for future agitators of the tour.

SuperFly
10-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Roddick would be better when talking about strategy and such, but Hewitt would be up the his hat in calls if he can teach people how to be as mentally strong as him.

PCXL-Fan
10-11-2009, 09:32 PM
i could be wrong but i think Hewitt would be better for the mental aspect of the game.

Isn't his game slightly more multi-dimensional then Roddicks?

lawrence
10-11-2009, 10:19 PM
Hewitt definitely.

What would Roddick teach you? "Smash a 130mph serve DTL, then go for the winner when the floater comes back"

Then you'd be like - wait, how do I hit the 130mph serve?

Lol ok, maybe his game isn't that one dimensional, but Hewitt has a much better all-round game than Roddick imo, and for someone who doesn't have a natural athletic kink such as flexibility or height like Roddick, Hewitt could definitely teach you how to win.

norbac
10-11-2009, 10:33 PM
Hewitt to me. I've seen him talk about the game in interviews and stuff, and he seems very knowledgeable about the game. He's been able to adapt his game, even while being at a lower level physically, to still be effective out on tour. Adapting and changing of game is not something that is Roddick's strong suit.

Yup........

Jason Vorhees
10-11-2009, 11:01 PM
Hewitt to me. I've seen him talk about the game in interviews and stuff, and he seems very knowledgeable about the game. He's been able to adapt his game, even while being at a lower level physically, to still be effective out on tour. Adapting and changing of game is not something that is Roddick's strong suit.

So that's why roddick has been able to stay top 10 for 8 years and hasn't faded away like hewitt.

It's a tough one, hewitt would be better for someone who doesn't have any weapons, because he got sucessful with exactly that, whilst roddick would suit someone with power - he could harness that.

PCXL-Fan
10-11-2009, 11:10 PM
So that's why roddick has been able to stay top 10 for 8 years and hasn't faded away like hewitt.

It's a tough one, hewitt would be better for someone who doesn't have any weapons, because he got sucessful with exactly that, whilst roddick would suit someone with power - he could harness that.

Hewitt went away because of injury and diminishing speed as he got older.

35ft6
10-11-2009, 11:47 PM
As ugly as I think his game is in many ways, based on interviews, it seems like he has a great understanding of tennis. He can't always execute against guy like Federer but he seems very tennis savvy. He appears to be wayyyy more articulate than Hewitt and is much more easy going so I voted for Roddick.

NamRanger
10-12-2009, 07:42 AM
As ugly as I think his game is in many ways, based on interviews, it seems like he has a great understanding of tennis. He can't always execute against guy like Federer but he seems very tennis savvy. He appears to be wayyyy more articulate than Hewitt and is much more easy going so I voted for Roddick.



I think he knows what he needs to do, but doesn't always do it (or do it right). So yes, I think Roddick in fact would make a pretty good coach.

Leelord337
10-12-2009, 07:47 AM
Roddicks game revolves around his massive serve and has(d) lots of power to bring him to #1.

Hewitt on the other hand doesn't have overwhelming power but is very consistent and a real fighter (Well they're both great fighters on the court)

I think Lleyton would be a more "in depth" coach when it comes to tennis tactics but it would be more fun to be coached by Andy and also might increase morale in his student because of his funny laid back attitude mixed w/professionalism.

8pNADAL
10-12-2009, 07:50 AM
in press conferences roddick speaks with more tactical wisdom than hewitt

rosenstar
10-12-2009, 08:06 AM
I feel like Roddick has a very high tennis IQ. He uses his strengths pretty well, which after all, should be every tennis player's goal.

He has a fiery attitude, more so than Hewitt even. I feel like Roddick's real attitude comes out in davis cup, where he is statistically one of the best davis cup players of all time. While I doubt we'll ever see him coaching someone (I could be wrong) I think it's not unlikely that he'll coach davis cup later in his career, or be connected in some other way.

Finally, I feel he is a very wise and experienced. He has played in the top ten for the past eight years or so, and has experienced everything. He's changed his playing style multiple times throughout his career, and while he doesn't have the most variety in his game, he can grind out matches, and has been for years.

tintin
10-12-2009, 09:11 AM
I'd say Hewitt even if both choices SUCK!

Hewitt is the better returner but he doesn't have a single shot in his game to scare anyone
no great depth
he is more ALL-surface and ALL-court than Roddick will ever be.I mean Hewitt made the Quarterfinals in ALL 4 majors!

Jason Vorhees
10-12-2009, 09:16 AM
I'd say Hewitt even if both choices SUCK!

Hewitt is the better returner but he doesn't have a single shot in his game to scare anyone
no great depth
he is more ALL-surface and ALL-court than Roddick will ever be.I mean Hewitt made the Quarterfinals in ALL 4 majors!

Except hewitt was more successful than roddick due to the fact that he won majors when noone was around. Not complaining but in the last 5 years roddick has been the better player, regardless on the H2H.

jamesblakefan#1
10-12-2009, 09:24 AM
Except hewitt was more successful than roddick due to the fact that he won majors when noone was around. Not complaining but in the last 5 years roddick has been the better player, regardless on the H2H.

Didn't Hewitt beat Roddick en route to one of his majors? And Hewitt beat Sampras in his 1st major final, definitely more impressive than Roddick's GS victory. Don't say 'no one' was around.

NamRanger
10-12-2009, 09:31 AM
Didn't Hewitt beat Roddick en route to one of his majors? And Hewitt beat Sampras in his 1st major final, definitely more impressive than Roddick's GS victory. Don't say 'no one' was around.



Dude, Roddick just came onto the tour in 2001, and Sampras had statistically his worst year since he became a slam contender.

JeMar
10-12-2009, 09:58 AM
Hewitt would definitely make a better coach. His game is built on strategy and adapting to your opponent. He has achieved more than Roddick has with less weapons.

jamesblakefan#1
10-12-2009, 10:03 AM
Hewitt would definitely make a better coach. His game is built on strategy and adapting to your opponent. He has achieved more than Roddick has with less weapons.

Agreed. I don't get the 'great tactics' people are seeing in Roddick's game, I kinda giggle when I hear people extolling the tactical virtues of Roddick's game.

Jason Vorhees
10-12-2009, 10:05 AM
Agreed. I don't get the 'great tactics' people are seeing in Roddick's game, I kinda giggle when I hear people extolling the tactical virtues of Roddick's game.

A bit like james blake with 3 slam QTF's.

jamesblakefan#1
10-12-2009, 10:06 AM
A bit like james blake with 3 slam QTF's.

And that's relevant to this thread how...:confused:

Jason Vorhees
10-12-2009, 10:13 AM
And that's relevant to this thread how...:confused:

Because your trashing a guy's tactics when he has been quite a successful player. Yes, roddick isn't the most tactical guy out on the circuit, but his game doesn't involve..............

Smack forehand
Smack backhand
Hit 10 unforced errors a game
Spray some more shots into the crowd
Wonder what you are doing wrong.

At least roddick doesn't beat himself like James Blake 3 slam QTR's does.

jamesblakefan#1
10-12-2009, 10:17 AM
Because your trashing a guy's tactics when he has been quite a successful player. Yes, roddick isn't the most tactical guy out on the circuit, but his game doesn't involve..............

Smack forehand
Smack backhand
Hit 10 unforced errors a game
Spray some more shots into the crowd
Wonder what you are doing wrong.

At least roddick doesn't beat himself like James Blake 3 slam QTR's does.

Read the thread title. This isn't a discussion on who would be a better coach Blake or Roddick. It's Hewitt or Roddick, so your cheap shot about Blake is quite irrelevant to the discussion.

Jason Vorhees
10-12-2009, 10:19 AM
Read the thread title. This isn't a discussion on who would be a better coach Blake or Roddick. It's Hewitt or Roddick, so your cheap shot about Blake is quite irrelevant to the discussion.

My 'cheap shot' at blake wasn't cheap, it was expensive and it was a fact.

JeMar
10-12-2009, 10:41 AM
My 'cheap shot' at blake wasn't cheap, it was expensive and it was a fact.

Wow, this guy didn't last long.

my_forehand
10-12-2009, 10:43 AM
Wow, this guy didn't last long.

Reading the other thread about Roddick and Nadal complaining has led me to believe he may be mentally ill.

Claudius
10-12-2009, 10:43 AM
Of course Hewitt. Roddick isn't a smart man.

SuperDuy
10-12-2009, 10:45 AM
Thing is Roddick chokes when he gets to finals.

jamesblakefan#1
10-12-2009, 11:04 AM
Wow, this guy didn't last long.

Of course he didn't...it was hatemachine/galatico/mannypacquiaop4pking/etc returned once again.

35ft6
10-12-2009, 06:35 PM
Hewitt would definitely make a better coach. His game is built on strategy and adapting to your opponent. He has achieved more than Roddick has with less weapons.Roddick gets a lot more free points, but I actually think Hewitt is the more talented player, he has better technique, and is a much better athlete. Once people realized if you get Roddick's serve back and batter his backhand, you have a chance, he had to really work hard to remain near the top. For better or worse, he plays different now than he used to. He's going back to more of a smash mouth style, but 2 years ago, he looked very different from the player he was when he was number 1. He developed new shots, tried to play a more all court game, attack more... he did give a lot of thought to tactics.

In general, I think less talented players have to work harder and think more and make for better coaches. And in this case, I think the dude who won his first pro tournament he ever played at the age of 16 is more talented. He was more of a natural. I watch Roddick and I don't necessarily see a lot of talent. I see a guy with a huge serve, big forehand, and lots of desire and heart. He's moving pretty good these days, but he never looked like a great athlete to me.

T1000
10-12-2009, 07:10 PM
Hewitt, he'll get you fit and mentally tough in no time

NamRanger
10-12-2009, 07:28 PM
Hewitt would definitely make a better coach. His game is built on strategy and adapting to your opponent. He has achieved more than Roddick has with less weapons.



Hewitt when he was world #1 was a superior tennis player than Andy Roddick when he was at the world #1 position. In fact, alot of people tend to forget that Hewitt when he was at his best actually hit ALOT of winners because of how well he moved and how he could just outmaneuver his opponent into a bad position.

JeMar
10-12-2009, 08:48 PM
What I'm saying is that Hewitt's strengths are much more transferable than Roddick's. You can't just teach a kid to serve 150 miles an hour; however, you can teach a kid to anticipate well and you can help someone improve their foot speed by fixing their technique. I remember that, toward the end of his career, Agassi watched a lot of tape of Hewitt moving to try to emulate his technique.

Roddick could (pun coming!) "serve" (nyuk, nyuk) a youngster well if kid has certain talents, but I believe that Hewitt could benefit a greater number of players.

longst
10-12-2009, 09:03 PM
Actually Hewitt would probably be the better coach. Here is a guy that never had a lot of weapons except speed and GUTS. And he's been around a long time and has been competitive the whole way. Roddick has had a lot of improvement though. Maybe in his last years he'll show even to be more of a complete player than he is now. Making him a better coach. But as of now... Hewitt.

NamRanger
10-12-2009, 09:47 PM
Actually Hewitt would probably be the better coach. Here is a guy that never had a lot of weapons except speed and GUTS. And he's been around a long time and has been competitive the whole way. Roddick has had a lot of improvement though. Maybe in his last years he'll show even to be more of a complete player than he is now. Making him a better coach. But as of now... Hewitt.



I hate when people say that. During his best years he had plenty of weapons.

zagor
10-12-2009, 10:05 PM
I hate when people say that. During his best years he had plenty of weapons.

I agree-one of the best return of serve and passing shots I've ever seen,great defense,great at absorbing pace,very good first serve,very good volleys etc.

NamRanger
10-12-2009, 10:32 PM
I agree-one of the best return of serve and passing shots I've ever seen,great defense,great at absorbing pace,very good first serve,very good volleys etc.



Not just that he just used to hit the ball way harder.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhKMzpdVcnE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1-uFBMmFo

Leelord337
10-13-2009, 12:26 AM
^^^i like the singles only lined courts

longst
10-13-2009, 10:36 AM
I agree-one of the best return of serve and passing shots I've ever seen,great defense,great at absorbing pace,very good first serve,very good volleys etc.


You know, you got a point and it was shown when Isner vs Hewitt and Hewitt won the toss and I figured he would serve, he choose to receive. And went on to beat Isner who has had a very good year, even including beating Roddick! So yeah his return of serve is excellent. In fact he beat teh crap out of Isner. I thought it would be a lot closer.

zagor
10-13-2009, 03:15 PM
Not just that he just used to hit the ball way harder.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhKMzpdVcnE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1-uFBMmFo

Man those videos bring back some memories,where'd Ferrero go? I know he had chicken pox and whatever but he dropped so low,was a shadow of himself last 5 years.Yeah,Hewitt's pretty agressive there,putting away short balls with his FH easily.

I also forgot to add that Hewitt has a sick topspin lob,also one of the best I've seen.

zagor
10-13-2009, 03:17 PM
You know, you got a point and it was shown when Isner vs Hewitt and Hewitt won the toss and I figured he would serve, he choose to receive. And went on to beat Isner who has had a very good year, even including beating Roddick! So yeah his return of serve is excellent. In fact he beat teh crap out of Isner. I thought it would be a lot closer.

Yeah,Hewitt's return of serve is a killer,he usually eats serve and volleyers and big servers for breakfast.Although he always seem to have so much trouble against Ivo,I never understood why Karlovic is such a tough match-up for Hewitt,he's the type of player Hewitt usually thrives on playing against.

SuperDuy
10-13-2009, 04:30 PM
Not just that he just used to hit the ball way harder.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhKMzpdVcnE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1-uFBMmFo

Wow i love those lines on the courts!

Annika
10-13-2009, 04:38 PM
This is not about who they beat. This is about being a good teacher. I think Hewitt might be able to focus better on another person. Roddick seems like he's always off the wall.

snowpuppy
10-13-2009, 05:07 PM
I am suprise so many ppl are picking Hewitt. First of all Roddick is a much better communicator which is very important as even all the wisdom in the world is not use if you can't convey it to your student. Second, Roddick seem (from stuff I've read) have more respect for coach and coaching. That aside, I also get the sense that he is has a high tennis IQ than he lets on. The reason he plays so one dimensional I think is because he knows (or thinks he knows) his limits. He don't have the same gifts as Rafa or Roger so he use his weapons as best as he can. For someone who a lot of ppl call "no game cept for a serve" he has certainly achieve more than you've expected.

EtePras
10-13-2009, 05:15 PM
Yeah,Hewitt's return of serve is a killer,he usually eats serve and volleyers and big servers for breakfast.Although he always seem to have so much trouble against Ivo,I never understood why Karlovic is such a tough match-up for Hewitt,he's the type of player Hewitt usually thrives on playing against.

Isn't it obvious? Karlovic has a much better serve than anyone else Hewitt has ever played. Hewitt destroyed Sampras 6-0 in a set before, yet he can't even dream about doing the same to the FAR superior Karlovic.

cigrmaster
10-13-2009, 05:35 PM
Andy Roddick is too stupid to ever be a coach. In my 40 plus years of playing and watching tennis, I have never seen a bigger waste of talent.

He should have won 10 majors by now but he doesn't understand how to construct a point and how to use one of the most devastating weapons in the history of the game to his advantage.

I wouldn't let him coach juniors.

SuperDuy
10-13-2009, 06:05 PM
Andy Roddick is too stupid to ever be a coach. In my 40 plus years of playing and watching tennis, I have never seen a bigger waste of talent.

He should have won 10 majors by now but he doesn't understand how to construct a point and how to use one of the most devastating weapons in the history of the game to his advantage.

I wouldn't let him coach juniors.

If Federer came 10 years later Andy would have around 8 now,

cigrmaster
10-13-2009, 06:17 PM
If Roddick had ever bothered to learn how to serve and volley and hit a back hand like a man, he would have beaten Federer plenty of times.

PCXL-Fan
10-14-2009, 01:23 AM
Look at Gretzky, great player, mediocre coach. It takes quite a different skillset to coach then to play.

Anyways Roddick's probably a better smarter player then almost all the current coaches were back when they were playing.

MethodTennis
10-14-2009, 01:45 PM
roddick on how to serve (teaching kids):

AR "throw it up hit it down"
AR "like this"
Kid "i think you killed robert"

Fedace
10-14-2009, 01:49 PM
Title says it all, I personally think Any Roddick would, because he understands the game more than lleyton although hewitt is older and has more experience around the game.

Hewitt of course--brilliant tactician. Roddick lol..... he can't even think for himself nevermind coach anyone else. He does his best thinking in the bedroom, not so much on the tennis courts....:)

DreamKiller
10-14-2009, 01:57 PM
Hewitt of course--brilliant tactician. Roddick lol..... he can't even think for himself nevermind coach anyone else. He does his best thinking in the bedroom, not so much on the tennis courts....:)

This was a mature post until it got to the third sentence.

SystemicAnomaly
10-14-2009, 02:06 PM
Hard to say. They both know the game well and are both very articulate. However, if you included Andre Agassi as a choice, I'd vote for him.

35ft6
10-14-2009, 02:08 PM
Andy Roddick is too stupid to ever be a coach. In my 40 plus years of playing and watching tennis, I have never seen a bigger waste of talent.Seriously? Bigger than Safin? Rios? Gasquet?

I don't think he's all that talented. And if not for Federer, he would have 2 or so Wimbledons.

And he doesn't really play one-dimensional any more. In fact, for a while, he was playing too much all court tennis. He was coming to the net a lot more than he should have. Everybody said he needed to become a more well rounded player and he did, but in retrospect he went a bit too far. When he was with Gilbert, Gilbert would brag that we hadn't seen anything yet, Roddick was going to serve even bigger numbers, hit harder. Brad was all about Andy has a huge serve and forehand and if he can just impose those weapons, he will win. And he was right in a way. But Roddick's next coach, understandably, was all about getting Andy to strengthen his weaknesses. He developed a slice backhand, started spot serving a bit more, started hitting a loopier forehand, and began attacking the net almost indiscriminately. It wasn't pretty. In the end, maybe it was a good thing, but for a while he actually got worse. I think the Wimbledon final demonstrated that all that hard work paid off, but still, he's not natural at the net. Still, just the fact he's tried so many different approaches in his career is the main reason I think he would be a better coach than Hewitt. Hewitt, who in the past has shown complete disdain for coaches.

Lastly, somebody said something about Roddick hitting his backhand like a man... his backhand has gotten a LOT better. That more than anything might have been why Wimbledon finals was so close -- his backhand down the line is way better than it's ever been.

SuperDuy
10-14-2009, 02:09 PM
roddick on how to serve (teaching kids):

AR "throw it up hit it down"
AR "like this"
Kid "i think you killed robert"

LMAO!! Haha, and fedace why so immature?

SuperDuy
10-14-2009, 02:15 PM
Seriously? Bigger than Safin? Rios? Gasquet?

I don't think he's all that talented. And if not for Federer, he would have 2 or so Wimbledons.

And he doesn't really play one-dimensional any more. In fact, for a while, he was playing too much all court tennis. He was coming to the net a lot more than he should have. Everybody said he needed to become a more well rounded player and he did, but in retrospect he went a bit too far. When he was with Gilbert, Gilbert would brag that we hadn't seen anything yet, Roddick was going to serve even bigger numbers, hit harder. Brad was all about Andy has a huge serve and forehand and if he can just impose those weapons, he will win. And he was right in a way. But Roddick's next coach, understandably, was all about getting Andy to strengthen his weaknesses. He developed a slice backhand, started spot serving a bit more, started hitting a loopier forehand, and began attacking the net almost indiscriminately. It wasn't pretty. In the end, maybe it was a good thing, but for a while he actually got worse. I think the Wimbledon final demonstrated that all that hard work paid off, but still, he's not natural at the net. Still, just the fact he's tried so many different approaches in his career is the main reason I think he would be a better coach than Hewitt. Hewitt, who in the past has shown complete disdain for coaches.

Lastly, somebody said something about Roddick hitting his backhand like a man... his backhand has gotten a LOT better. That more than anything might have been why Wimbledon finals was so close -- his backhand down the line is way better than it's ever been.

Wow man I agree hundred percent! With Gilbert it was just Monster Serve Monster forehand, smash return hard as you can with the forhand etc.

Now its Try to Stay in the ralley longer and hit more cautious shots, but go for winner sometimes. For return its slice it or just get it back not go for monster and hit it out.

Andy has Improved in my mind, and if we see an injured Federer in 2010 Roddick will have more confidence but also more pressure on him.


Just my 2 cents.

T1000
10-14-2009, 02:26 PM
If Federer came 10 years later Andy would have around 8 now,

Hewitt in 04-05 is better than roddick could ever be. only reason Hewitt didn't win slams at his best was a little something called Federer. Federer is almost unbeatable at his best

jamesblakefan#1
10-14-2009, 02:38 PM
Hewitt in 04-05 is better than roddick could ever be. only reason Hewitt didn't win slams at his best was a little something called Federer. Federer is almost unbeatable at his best

Correct, peak Hewitt > peak Roddick, as evidenced by their h2h during this time period. Heck even now a past prime Hewitt still gives Roddick troubles.

caranddriver
10-14-2009, 04:11 PM
I also agree that Hewitt would be a better coach. An altogether craftier player.

DreamKiller
10-15-2009, 01:04 AM
Correct, peak Hewitt > peak Roddick, as evidenced by their h2h during this time period. Heck even now a past prime Hewitt still gives Roddick troubles.

I love how you included The H2H to show who the better player is, Even though there H2H now is 6-6, and most of hewitt's victories came when roddick was a kid and hewitt was #1 in the world but never mind. Hewitt is the better player because he has 2 slams to roddick's 1, not down the the H2H. A tough matchup is a tough matchup but roddick has already figured hewitt out.

crawl4
10-15-2009, 01:21 AM
To me Hewitt no doubt but I am partially biased :)

lawrence
10-15-2009, 01:46 AM
I love how you included The H2H to show who the better player is, Even though there H2H now is 6-6, and most of hewitt's victories came when roddick was a kid and hewitt was #1 in the world but never mind. Hewitt is the better player because he has 2 slams to roddick's 1, not down the the H2H. A tough matchup is a tough matchup but roddick has already figured hewitt out.

It's not that Roddick has Hewitt figured out, it's just that Hewitt isn't what he used to be. He lost his most important weapon (his speed advantage over others), while Roddick maintains his most important weapon (take a guess what that is).

That's my opinion anyway.

DreamKiller
10-15-2009, 01:55 AM
It's not that Roddick has Hewitt figured out, it's just that Hewitt isn't what he used to be. He lost his most important weapon (his speed advantage over others), while Roddick maintains his most important weapon (take a guess what that is).

That's my opinion anyway.


Hardly Roddick's fault that he improved his game and stayed with the times and hewitt didn't.

FlamEnemY
10-15-2009, 10:37 AM
I agree-one of the best return of serve and passing shots I've ever seen,great defense,great at absorbing pace,very good first serve,very good volleys etc.

Maybe another way to put it is to say 'Hewitt didn't have one MONSTER weapon', except his great speed and footwork, of course. His return, as great as it is, still depends on the server. He's not like Roddick, winning free points off of first (and second) serves all day.
That said, I vote for Hewitt. His game is going to translate well to players who don't have one extreme weapon, he is also around 1 meter 80 or so, so he knows what a 'smaller' guy should do on court.
He also seems to have a great volley and lob technique, that would be great to learn from him.

jamesblakefan#1
10-15-2009, 11:42 PM
Hardly Roddick's fault that he improved his game and stayed with the times and hewitt didn't.

I don't think I've ever seen the same person (Jason Voorhees, Jason Lives, DreamKiller) banned 3 days in a row! :lol:

SuperDuy
01-03-2011, 12:44 PM
Another year to see these players careers come to and end.

Nextman916
01-03-2011, 01:10 PM
Roddick because imo longevity=greatness, and the fact that Roddick's kept himself relevant in contention for so long makes him the better player.