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tennisguyak
10-14-2009, 07:02 PM
Which pro do you think has the weakest stroke in all of mens tennis?

I think there's too many possibilities to have a poll, but in my opinion the Karlovic backhand comes to mind.

beckham
10-14-2009, 07:05 PM
The Gonzales backhand comes to mind, especially due to his forehand, although its been "clicking" as of late imo.

JeMar
10-14-2009, 07:06 PM
Lopez' backhand is pretty weak too.

aleexxxxx
10-14-2009, 07:06 PM
Robredo backhand
gasquet forehand

zachattack698
10-14-2009, 07:09 PM
as of lately safin forehand unfortunatly....

JeMar
10-14-2009, 07:10 PM
inB4 Federer's backhand.

Conquistador
10-14-2009, 07:15 PM
Cilic backhand IMO

tennisguyak
10-14-2009, 07:15 PM
inB4 Federer's backhand.

I'd be surprised if anybody posts that. But speaking of one-handers, what about the Blake backhand, he can hit some good ones when he gets "hot", he also makes a fair share of unforced errors off that shot.

JeMar
10-14-2009, 07:23 PM
Cilic backhand IMO

Do you even watch tennis these days? I mean, other than youtube highlights.

His backhand is stronger than his forehand. In case you didn't notice in his match against Djokovic, the go-to play for both players was to attack each other's forehand.

tennisguyak
10-14-2009, 07:24 PM
Cilic backhand IMO

I'm gonna have to disagree there. Solid smooth stroke, and its more consistent in the long run than his forehand. He can hit some big shots on the forehand, but it can get pretty erratic at times.

Do you even watch tennis these days? I mean, other than youtube highlights.

His backhand is stronger than his forehand. In case you didn't notice in his match against Djokovic, the go-to play for both players was to attack each other's forehand.

Totally agree

Conquistador
10-14-2009, 07:24 PM
Do you even watch tennis these days? I mean, other than youtube highlights.

His backhand is stronger than his forehand. In case you didn't notice in his match against Djokovic, the go-to play for both players was to attack each other's forehand.

Thanks for being so polite.

JeMar
10-14-2009, 07:25 PM
Thanks for being so polite.

I used up all my politeness by not posting on the thread about TMS events being worth more than the slams, sorry. I think you know better than this, and you just post this stuff to get a reaction.

ronalditop
10-14-2009, 07:27 PM
Lopez backhand, Gasquet forehand, Karlovic backhand, Fish forehand.

Conquistador
10-14-2009, 07:36 PM
I used up all my politeness by not posting on the thread about TMS events being worth more than the slams, sorry. I think you know better than this, and you just post this stuff to get a reaction.

I post it to make a point and state a concious opinion about the game. If you dont like it dont read my posts. I respect your opinion.

crawl4
10-14-2009, 07:39 PM
gasquet forehand

Is that a joke?..it might not be great but worst in the game?.. give me a break

Karlovic backhand definetly

The_Steak
10-14-2009, 07:55 PM
inB4 Federer's backhand.

In b4 fbi.


Misc brah?

tennisguyak
10-14-2009, 07:58 PM
Lopez backhand, Gasquet forehand, Karlovic backhand, Fish forehand.

Fish as in Mardy Fish? No way thats the worst in the game, when he's playing good thats his best shot besides the serve.

Shaolin
10-14-2009, 07:59 PM
Roddick FH volley. Moya BH. Karlovic BH as mentioned 30 times. Blake, Gonzo FH. Not shots but Safin, Gulbis mental game, Nalbandian fitness.

SourStraws
10-14-2009, 08:03 PM
Dents return...Needs to do more with it imo

S.S.

yemenmocha
10-14-2009, 08:28 PM
Roddick's overall net game, especially positioning. He has no clue what to do at net, for a professional.

Mr.Brightside
10-14-2009, 08:38 PM
Santoro topspin forehand :)

SuperDuy
10-14-2009, 08:42 PM
Roddicks Serve!

boredone3456
10-14-2009, 08:43 PM
Roddick's overall net game, especially positioning. He has no clue what to do at net, for a professional.

Agree 100%. I would say his net game is the worst of the top 10, he is completely awkward up there. Its a good thing he is solid at the baseline and has such a strong serve to compensate for it.

Claudius
10-14-2009, 08:45 PM
Karlovic backhand.

Toxicmilk
10-14-2009, 09:04 PM
Karlovic backhand.

+1, that and lopez backhand...

LafayetteHitter
10-14-2009, 09:07 PM
Federer's serve, Nadals forehand and Haas' backhand

ahile02
10-14-2009, 09:11 PM
Federer's serve, Nadals forehand and Haas' backhand

I'm interested to hear your logic in supporting this. Very interested.

Baikalic
10-14-2009, 09:30 PM
Paul Henri Mathieu's overhead.

EtePras
10-14-2009, 10:53 PM
Benneteau (Benito?) overhead.

dropshot winner
10-14-2009, 11:51 PM
Santoro topspin forehand :)
I think that's exactly it.

The other mentioned strokes are known weaknesses for said players, but Santoro's topspin forehand is on a whole different level of "shitness".

kOaMaster
10-15-2009, 12:09 AM
Santoro topspin forehand :)

good choice. as sad as it sounds :cry:

MasturB
10-15-2009, 12:28 AM
good choice. as sad as it sounds :cry:

I didn't even know Santoro had a topspin forehand.


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Anyways, I was going to say McEnroe's forehand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTrF_ymrTXQ&feature=related

dropshot winner
10-15-2009, 12:33 AM
I didn't even know Santoro had a topspin forehand.


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Anyways, I was going to say McEnroe's forehand.

McEnroe hit winners with his forehand, Santoro can't even hit that shot further than the service line most of the time.

SerbWhoLovesDelPo
10-15-2009, 12:41 AM
Cilic backhand IMO

haha lol

i appreciate a good laugh anytime!

akv89
10-15-2009, 12:58 AM
Santoro topspin forehand :)

Santoro did claim that if he knew how to hit a proper topspin forehand, he would have easily made it to the top 10 during his career.

DreamKiller
10-15-2009, 01:06 AM
Roddick's overall net game, especially positioning. He has no clue what to do at net, for a professional.

Funny how Roddick was making awsome volleys against Murray (best passer) at wimbledon.

volleynets
10-15-2009, 01:08 AM
Santoro topspin forehand :)

Good one but the stroke has to EXIST to be weak haha :)

DreamKiller
10-15-2009, 01:09 AM
I'd be surprised if anybody posts that. But speaking of one-handers, what about the Blake backhand, he can hit some good ones when he gets "hot", he also makes a fair share of unforced errors off that shot.


No, getting 'hot' doesn't cut it. Everyone get's hot now and again and with james blake he hasn't been hot since 2006 and his backhand was always a liability. Even his forehand is a shot which is only good when he is 'on'.

helloworld
10-15-2009, 01:11 AM
Karlovic's Backhand.

fluffy Beaver
10-15-2009, 01:12 AM
I didn't even know Santoro had a topspin forehand.


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Anyways, I was going to say McEnroe's forehand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTrF_ymrTXQ&feature=related

What was the point of adding in the clip? All you showed was Mac hitting a good approach shot and a winner off the forehand. If you wanted us to see a shank, who doesn't from time to time.

MasturB
10-15-2009, 02:34 AM
What was the point of adding in the clip? All you showed was Mac hitting a good approach shot and a winner off the forehand. If you wanted us to see a shank, who doesn't from time to time.

Man. Some of you guys have no fun.

People are posting faux responses on this thread.

MarrratSafin
10-15-2009, 03:01 AM
Those who said Roddick's net game are just plain ignorant and need to watch more tennis. Btw the answer to the OP's question is probably the Karlovic backhand.:lol:

vndesu
10-15-2009, 03:10 AM
gonzo backhand.

IvanisevicServe
10-15-2009, 03:26 AM
Nadal's drop shot is pretty awful. It consistently lands right at the edge of the service box, if not the middle of the court.

srinrajesh
10-15-2009, 06:00 AM
Definitely Karlovic's BH.. If you consider mental toughness part of this Tommy haas's mental fragility

coloskier
10-15-2009, 12:14 PM
Lately, both Nadal's and Murray 2nd serve can be ranked as one of the worst. Finally their opponents are starting to take advantage of it. Blake almost took out Nadal yesterday due to Nadal's 2nd serve. If Blake can do that to Nadal on the slow courts of Shanghai, imagine what would happen on a normal hard court.

Marty502
10-15-2009, 12:23 PM
I wouldn't say the Gonzo BH is one of the worst shots. The ugliest stroke? Probably. But he makes good use of it, both with top spin (which he takes very early, too) and with that extreme backspin he developed in 2006-2007. It's not exceptional, but when it's on it's a good (ok, maybe decent) weapon.

One of the italians has the worst meatball serve I've seen in a Top 100. It makes Nadal's second serve look like Karlovic. Andreas Seppi, I think? Or maybe it was Volandri, Fognini or Bolelli. I always get the italians mixed up.

NamRanger
10-15-2009, 12:29 PM
Agree 100%. I would say his net game is the worst of the top 10, he is completely awkward up there. Its a good thing he is solid at the baseline and has such a strong serve to compensate for it.



LOL what?



Are we forgetting about Nikolay Davydenko?

Ledigs
10-15-2009, 12:30 PM
Roddick's return of serve. TERRIBLE

aldekeuk
10-15-2009, 01:07 PM
Andreas Seppi's serve...

Matt H.
10-15-2009, 01:16 PM
Gonzo's backhand slice is pretty sick. He knifes it pretty good and keeps it deep most of the time.

IvanAndreevich
10-15-2009, 01:18 PM
Cilic backhand IMO

That's his best shot off the ground you fool :neutral:

boredone3456
10-15-2009, 01:25 PM
LOL what?



Are we forgetting about Nikolay Davydenko?

LOL true...Davydenko's is pretty bad to...but really..I forgot for a moment Davydenko was in the top 10, but I wouldn't say Roddicks net game is that much better than his by any means.

helloworld
10-15-2009, 01:54 PM
Roddick's return of serve. TERRIBLE

That's right up there, too. Remember Fed's 50 aces at Wimbledon compared to Fed's 12 aces against Del Potro at US Open Final. I don't see anyone else getting aced by Fed 50 times in one match... Fed's serve is good, but it's defnitely not a Karlovic Serve.

P_Agony
10-15-2009, 02:10 PM
Seppi's 2nd serve. Ouch.

jelle v
10-15-2009, 02:37 PM
I'd have to go with Lopez backhand.. that is one very bad shot.. :neutral:

IvanisevicServe
10-16-2009, 02:29 AM
Also, Massu's backhand is pretty bad.

Inner Game
10-16-2009, 04:11 AM
I'd have to go with Lopez backhand.. that is one very bad shot.. :neutral:

Lopez backhand by a mile....slice..slice....slice...

egn
10-16-2009, 07:51 AM
Any sort of Karlovic ground stroke.

Shaolin
10-16-2009, 07:57 AM
Those who said Roddick's net game are just plain ignorant and need to watch more tennis.


Having a decent backhand volley does not constitute a good net game. His FH volley is extremely flawed and his approaches are crosscourt most of the time leaving the court wide open to hit the pass (hopefully Stefanki will help him on this but he cant seem to stop doing it).

NamRanger
10-16-2009, 08:03 AM
Having a decent backhand volley does not constitute a good net game. His FH volley is extremely flawed and his approaches are crosscourt most of the time leaving the court wide open to hit the pass (hopefully Stefanki will help him on this but he cant seem to stop doing it).



Yeah but he doesn't have the worst net game in the top 10. That belongs to Davydenko by a long shot.

Jay_The_Nomad
10-16-2009, 08:12 AM
If Davydenko is at the net, 10/10 times he will hit a drop volley.

boredone3456
10-16-2009, 08:20 AM
If Davydenko is at the net, 10/10 times he will hit a drop volley.

and when he does that it will land in the net 5/10 in most matches I have watched. If he wasn't such a seemingly forgettable member of the top 10 I wouldn't have made the dumb mistake of saying Roddick has the worst net game in the top 10 lol.

Shaolin
10-16-2009, 08:25 AM
Yeah but he doesn't have the worst net game in the top 10. That belongs to Davydenko by a long shot.



I agree but at least Davy has the sense to not go to the net. He pretty much only comes in behind a clean winner or something giving him the worlds easiest volley. Unlike Roddick who will roll in a lazy 75% power crosscourt approach shot giving a billboard sized target to pass down the line.

NamRanger
10-16-2009, 08:28 AM
I agree but at least Davy has the sense to not go to the net. He pretty much only comes in behind a clean winner or something giving him the worlds easiest volley. Unlike Roddick who will roll in a lazy 75% power crosscourt approach shot giving a billboard sized target to pass down the line.



That's true. Roddick used to have horrible volleys before, but he also clobbered the approach shot. Now it's the reverse; Roddick now has ok volleys, but has poor approach shots.

Mr.Brightside
10-16-2009, 08:36 AM
Good one but the stroke has to EXIST to be weak haha :)

It exists, but only rarely. when it does exist, it's quite bad, to put it mildly

LafayetteHitter
10-16-2009, 09:23 AM
I'm interested to hear your logic in supporting this. Very interested.

I was actually joking. The thread is quite comical as all these top level guys have incredible strokes even at the lowest points.

RCizzle65
10-16-2009, 10:12 AM
I didn't even know Santoro had a topspin forehand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qHMszmc_Ys
Passing shot @ end of point at 2:45, 3:35, and 6:43

But I've always wondered, how did he deal with S&V players a decade ago, wouldn't it just be easy to serve to his forehand, and when returning, hit a good shot to the forehand and come to the net?

JeMar
10-16-2009, 10:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qHMszmc_Ys
Passing shot @ end of point at 2:45, 3:35, and 6:43

But I've always wondered, how did he deal with S&V players a decade ago, wouldn't it just be easy to serve to his forehand, and when returning, hit a good shot to the forehand and come to the net?

Magic. It was magic.

DRII
10-16-2009, 11:43 AM
Guillermo Ignacio Caņas' two handed backhand.

Very stiff stroke, hardly any follow through!

maddogz32
10-16-2009, 05:09 PM
roddick volleys

OliverSimon
10-16-2009, 09:22 PM
Guillermo Ignacio Caņas' two handed backhand.

Very stiff stroke, hardly any follow through!

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