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phoenicks
10-15-2009, 07:10 PM
Hi, I'm doing some formal investigation here about the 1st serve speed profile, particularly I'm most interested in the following detail,

Your average serve speed:
Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ):
Your height:
your NTRP level:



your input is very much appreciated !!!

WildVolley
10-15-2009, 07:22 PM
Most people won't have precise data on this. I have a radar gun, yet I haven't had someone compile statistics during one of my competitive sets yet.

I will make some estimates based on my practice measures. My first serve speed probably averages about 95mph. My fastest serves are about 110-115mph and rare. I'm 6'3" and probably a 4.0. My favorite serve is probably the body serve, but I try to always move it around. I've played a long time, over a decade with some long breaks.

5263
10-15-2009, 07:32 PM
I assume you mean when I go for a big flatter first serve. Playing doubles often, many times the kicker is just the way to go with returners.

just over 5-11
fastest measured was 121
avg prob about 105
play Open doubles

naylor
10-15-2009, 07:40 PM
Average serve speed: 100-105
Fastest serve speed ( in the box ): 120
Height: 5'10"
NTRP level: 4.5

USERNAME
10-15-2009, 07:46 PM
Im 17y/o and 5'11". The last tourny my coach watched with his radar gun he clocked my fastest serve at 128mph and he avgeraged my serve speed on the 1st at 105mph. I play only jr. open tournys, including some nationals.

phoenicks
10-15-2009, 07:48 PM
Most people won't have precise data on this. I have a radar gun, yet I haven't had someone compile statistics during one of my competitive sets yet.




LOL, yea, that's the problem at non-professional level, but we can get around by giving some wise guesstimate.:)

BullDogTennis
10-15-2009, 07:54 PM
nice everyone in here easily over 100....not gonna post mine cause im not sure, dont wanna give false data.

layziaznboi
10-15-2009, 07:55 PM
Your average serve speed: ~80-85
Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ):~90
Your height:5' 6"
your NTRP level:3.5

Yeah... I'm not entirely sure because I don't have a radar gun, but I compare it with all the high schoolers who say they have serves 70mph or 90mph or whatever. I'm still developing my serve =[ I just started tennis like a year ago and I'm so behind... I'm in college and 3.5 kinda sad lol...

Ano
10-15-2009, 07:59 PM
Your average serve speed: 60-65 mph (mostly kickers)
Your fastest serve speed : around 100 mph (flat, very rarely goes in,
perhaps 1 out of 20)

Your height: 5'9.5"
your NTRP level: self rated 4.0

The_Steak
10-15-2009, 07:59 PM
Im 17y/o and 5'11". The last tourny my coach watched with his radar gun he clocked my fastest serve at 128mph and he avgeraged my serve speed on the 1st at 105mph. I play only jr. open tournys, including some nationals.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I suppose you are a top D1 player?

USERNAME
10-15-2009, 08:03 PM
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I suppose you are a top D1 player?

Nope, gonna go to a low-mid D1 school... And Im guessin u dont believe me right? Fine with me, ur not a D1 coach for all I kno so what u think doesnt really matter.

The_Steak
10-15-2009, 08:05 PM
Nope, gonna go to a low-mid D1 school... And Im guessin u dont believe me right? Fine with me, ur not a D1 coach for all I kno so what u think doesnt really matter.

You don't really realize how fast 128 is do you?


Are you a 5.5? Sadly I don't think so.

5263
10-15-2009, 08:07 PM
Nope, gonna go to a low-mid D1 school... And Im guessin u dont believe me right? Fine with me, ur not a D1 coach for all I kno so what u think doesnt really matter.

Don't sweat it man. These guys don't realize how many young guns there are out there that can easily blast past 120mph in the jrs. Most of them have never used radar guns and most of the rest that have, don't understand how to use or set them up.

The big difference for the pros is the spin, consistency and placement of the 120s.

USERNAME
10-15-2009, 08:11 PM
You don't really realize how fast 128 is do you?


Are you a 5.5?

My coach rates me at a 5.5-6.0, and 128 is not my avg. My avg was 105 AT ONE MATCH. My coach rarely brings the radar gun out cause he thinks I shouldnt worry about mph.

teppeiahn1
10-15-2009, 08:12 PM
Your average serve speed:around 85-95
Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ):108
Your height:5'8
your NTRP level:4.5

5263
10-15-2009, 08:14 PM
My coach rates me at a 5.5-6.0, and 128 is not my avg. My avg was 105 AT ONE MATCH. My coach rarely brings the radar gun out cause he thinks I shouldnt worry about mph.

where was the guy set up during you match?

the avg was probably much higher when corrected for distance from contact point for the initial pick up.

USERNAME
10-15-2009, 08:17 PM
Don't sweat it man. These guys don't realize how many young guns there are out there that can easily blast past 120mph in the jrs. Most of them have never used radar guns and most of the rest that have, don't understand how to use or set them up.

The big difference for the pros is the spin, consistency and placement of the 120s.

Exactly! I could slam my 1st serve every time if I wanted but my 1st serve % would b very low. I only go for the heat when I have a good lead or sometimes to get a free point. I rarely hit a totally flat serve to, usually has a bit of topspin to give me some margin, plus I love to thro in the slice and kicker as change-ups. Placement is key imo.

Solat
10-15-2009, 08:17 PM
avg : no way to know
fastest : too fast for my opponent
height : 194cm
ITN : 3.5

callen3615
10-15-2009, 08:19 PM
Placement>Speed

USERNAME
10-15-2009, 08:23 PM
where was the guy set up during you match?

the avg was probably much higher when corrected for distance from contact point for the initial pick up.

He was sitting on the net, he only took speeds from 1 1/4 sets. I won the 1st and was up an early break in the 2nd so he left to scout my next opponent. If I had to thro a 1st serve% for that match out, Id guess around 75% in. I only double faulted 2 times in that match as well.

5263
10-15-2009, 08:28 PM
He was sitting on the net, he only took speeds from 1 1/4 sets. I won the 1st and was up an early break in the 2nd so he left to scout my next opponent. If I had to thro a 1st serve% for that match out, Id guess around 75% in. I only double faulted 2 times in that match as well.

A quick guess (not knowing the specs for the radar unit used) says that your serves were 10% faster minimum, when you adjust for intercept angle and distance from initial acquisition, when comparing what is displayed at pro matches.

USERNAME
10-15-2009, 08:36 PM
A quick guess (not knowing the specs for the radar unit used) says that your serves were 10% faster minimum, when you adjust for intercept angle and distance from initial acquisition, when comparing what is displayed at pro matches.

I have no idea what gun he uses, but I would love it if this is true! IDK tho, for me if Im winning matches thats good enough, dont really care how fast Im hitting :)

jserve
10-15-2009, 09:40 PM
Average: 115
Fastest: probably just under 130
Height: 6'2"
NTRP: 5.0

My serve is by far the best part of my game, the rest lags behind a ton. Also, I only used my flat serves for this, but my spin serves are just as effective being a lefty.

xFullCourtTenniSx
10-15-2009, 10:09 PM
You don't really realize how fast 128 is do you?


Are you a 5.5? Sadly I don't think so.

That's not the biggest problem in his numbers. You NEVER have 20+ mph differential in fastest first serve speed and average first serve speed. Especially not in a tournament! Even if you change up your serve speeds from 125-90 (like Del Potro did to Federer in the US Open and Murray does), your average speed still hovers around 110-115.

The difference between fastest first serve speed and average first serve speed is usually 10 mph unless you're Roddick, who tones it down by 15-30 mph for an insane 1st serve percentage with 125 mph serves!

Average speed 1: 105-110 mph (When aiming for 70% percentage)
Average speed 2: 110-115 mph (ends up with 33-66% based on serving day)
Max speed: Close to 120 mph? Give or take?
Height: 5'10" (Anyone want to donate 3 or 4 inches? :) )

I really have no idea exactly where I serve at, but I've been told by a futures player I easily clear 100 mph (and that was over 18 months ago and my motion is much more relaxed now). And I have a few friends that serve in the 90s and I serve WAY faster than them.

I know I break 100 no problem. How much higher than 100, I've no real idea.

moroni
10-15-2009, 11:19 PM
Avg 1st Serve Speed: 90-105(not Ofiicialy Missured So Maybe A Little Off)
Fastest Serve:120(again Based On Serves Ive Seen That Had Official Speed)
Height:180cm
Ntrb:4.5

USERNAME
10-16-2009, 01:11 AM
That's not the biggest problem in his numbers. You NEVER have 20+ mph differential in fastest first serve speed and average first serve speed. Especially not in a tournament! Even if you change up your serve speeds from 125-90 (like Del Potro did to Federer in the US Open and Murray does), your average speed still hovers around 110-115.
I rarely during a match flatten out my serve completely, I choose to pop in a big serve only at key times because 1)it takes my opponent by surprise and 2)I feel more confident cause my serves have been going in alot (they go in cause I take off the power). The spin I use on my serves take off some pace but the weight is still very good.

EikelBeiter
10-16-2009, 01:25 AM
Average speed 1: 95-105 mph
Average speed 2: 75-80 mph
Max speed: 120 mph
Height: 1.89m, 6"2??
Ntrp: 5.5

xFullCourtTenniSx
10-16-2009, 01:26 AM
I rarely during a match flatten out my serve completely, I choose to pop in a big serve only at key times because 1)it takes my opponent by surprise and 2)I feel more confident cause my serves have been going in alot (they go in cause I take off the power). The spin I use on my serves take off some pace but the weight is still very good.

You do realize if you can bomb 125+, you can easily nail 110+ at 60+%...

Taking off that much pace means either have 80+% first serves in with crazy spin or a very weak first serve...

5263
10-16-2009, 04:46 AM
I rarely during a match flatten out my serve completely, I choose to pop in a big serve only at key times because 1)it takes my opponent by surprise and 2)I feel more confident cause my serves have been going in alot (they go in cause I take off the power). The spin I use on my serves take off some pace but the weight is still very good.

Not to sure where these del Potro numbers come from. His fastest serve is well into the 130's and his avg in the USO was around 110. This would give him a bigger gap in his numbers than you, like in the 25-27 range. My gap is probably more like 30mph too as I have hit in the low 120s measured, but with all the kicks I throw in for 1st serves in certain situations and slowing it down for the big angle out wide, my avg 1st serve speed would come way down.

drakulie
10-16-2009, 04:57 AM
Your average serve speed:

121 mph kick serves


Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ):

141 mph


Your height:

5'9"


your NTRP level:

still dealing with how to beat pushers.

5263
10-16-2009, 05:00 AM
found some of del Potro stats.
His biggest is 143 mph (which may not be his fastest one)
His avg in that final 116
27 mph difference

116 is actually a high avg for del Petro, as he didn't serve that big regularly til just lately

GuyClinch
10-16-2009, 05:37 AM
Who knows? It would be cool to have a radar gun but its hard to justify the 150 bucks for just a trivial thing like that. I used one of those cage things and hit like 90 but that was like 6 years ago and using a eastern forehand grip.

smoothtennis
10-16-2009, 06:23 AM
Your average serve speed: 90
Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ): 105 (or close)
Your height: 5'9
your NTRP level: 4.0

jms007
10-16-2009, 07:32 AM
Avg. speed: I'd say 85-90mph
Top speed: Probably just a bit over 100 mph.
Height: 5'11
NRTP: 3.0

LafayetteHitter
10-16-2009, 08:17 AM
These types of threads definitely que up a line of cow flop.

Storm_Kyori
10-16-2009, 01:37 PM
This is from 2yrs back. Only time I ever had a chance to clock my serve. I don't have access to a radar gun, so it will be interesting to find out how much I've improved. Hopefully I can update this soon.

Your average serve speed: 72-75
Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ):80
Your height:5'9"
Your NTRP level: 3.0

I've been hitting my 1st serves with a lot more consistency and pace, so I would like to think I'm above what I was then.

boojay
10-16-2009, 02:15 PM
No clue what my 1st serve avg speed is or even my fastest for that matter which is funny considering I'm one of the few who actually owns a radar gun. I do know, however, that my average second serve falls in the 80-90 mph range which is something I'm very proud of. Originally I thought I was 70 at best so that took me by surprise.

Keep in mind I rarely hit big first serves as I've learned they're usually returned with interest against the guys I play against. I consider myself someone who usually hits second serves (with placement and intention) with the occasional big serve (with little control) just to throw the returner's rhythm off.

dr325i
10-16-2009, 02:19 PM
Your average serve speed: 100-105
Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ): 118
Your height: 6'0"
your NTRP level: 4.5

WildVolley
10-16-2009, 02:40 PM
These types of threads definitely que up a line of cow flop.

A couple things could be going on. First, some people definitely overestimate serve speed - especially lower level players. I hit a body serve at about 110mph at a guy I'd say is a 3.5 and he started talking about how I serve like Roddick. He didn't believe me when I told him Roddick can serve 20 or 30mph faster than that basically whenever he wants.

Those that hit average speed serves are probably scared off of these threads. The average serve I face around here in friendly matches is 60-80mph. Watching the high school tennis players here in San Diego County, most of the better player only hit in the 80s on the first serve. There are a few exceptions who crank serves around 100mph, but they are rare.

jms007
10-16-2009, 03:11 PM
Hmm well I can't speak for everyone who voted here, but I think I'm fairly close in my estimation. I've rallied for a number of years. I have a 3.0 rating because I only started playing matches (in general not just USTA) this year, so obviously I'm still learning how to that. I'm getting better and I have beaten 3.5s in unofficial matches in singles and some USTA doubles. In part thanks to my serve. I usually get compliments on it even from the higher level players...at the very least pace/spin wise. I'm still not placing it well enough, and double faults are a few too many. And there other 3.0s around here, mostly 6"5 tall guys who can crank an occasional 100 mph. Why wouldn't they? If you are a tall, normally built healthy guy with adequate technique, there's no reason why you can't do that. As for the average first serve speed, well that one is more questionable. I usually go for a flat, hard one, so when it goes in, it's a pretty close to 90 at least. But I might be off, who knows!

LafayetteHitter
10-16-2009, 03:20 PM
There was a 5' 7" 15 year old in another thread saying he serves 120...ok

The other thing is anyone here can say just about anything. There is a youtube video of a guy saying he's serving over 100mph and the actual speed is close to my girlfriend who is a 3.0 and serves about 60 on a good day with no sun in her eyes.

Andres
10-16-2009, 04:41 PM
Below 50 fo sho.

jms007
10-16-2009, 05:17 PM
Yeah anyone can say whatever. But if i have a 60 mph serve then I guess I'm just playing some lousy 3.5/4.0s who don't have the reflexes to react to a badly placed 60 mph serve.

I don't think serve speed necessarily correlates to one's skill level. At least not to the 95-100 mph range. 110,120,130 that's a different matter.

xFullCourtTenniSx
10-16-2009, 06:48 PM
found some of del Potro stats.
His biggest is 143 mph (which may not be his fastest one)
His avg in that final 116
27 mph difference

116 is actually a high avg for del Petro, as he didn't serve that big regularly til just lately

Well look at how tall he is. He SHOULD be able to knock it up in the 140s if he wanted to. Whether it goes in or not is a different story, which is what didn't happen for him in the US Open finals with Federer.

And Del Potro, like Murray and unlike USERNAME, throws in serves at 80-90 to seriously mess with the opponent. Against Federer he was consistently throwing serves in the 90s and the low 100s was his heater of the day.

Unless you have so MASSIVE difference changeup speeds you're not going to have such a huge difference. Even then he didn't hit much higher than 125. When he goes for 130+, he's going for it!

If you can max out 125 and are averaging 101s, then you must be hitting some 80 mph serves too! I doubt he really is though. Young people rarely go for 80 when they can knock it above 110.

USERNAME
10-16-2009, 08:40 PM
You do realize if you can bomb 125+, you can easily nail 110+ at 60+%...

Taking off that much pace means either have 80+% first serves in with crazy spin or a very weak first serve...

Yeah I could do that but whats the point? I dont need the heat to hold serve unless I get into a jam, not often until I play the upper end of the tournys I enter (except nats). The match I got the #s I posted from was a 1st round match. And a 105mph avg aint weak buddy, especially when u take into consideration that I usually like to place my serves to where my opponent is returning in an awkward position. Also on my 2nd serve I dont have to drop much pace compared to the 1st to get it in comfortably when Im hitting at the more controlled side of the spectrum, just add a tad more spin and it goes in. I like to move my serves around and I find that when hitting at about 105mph thats very easy. When I go for 120+mph I can usually only do 3 things, out wide(not crazy angles), up the T(again not like on the line), or at the body, and once the better guys I play find their timing they redirect my serves on the return.

USERNAME
10-16-2009, 08:50 PM
Well look at how tall he is. He SHOULD be able to knock it up in the 140s if he wanted to. Whether it goes in or not is a different story, which is what didn't happen for him in the US Open finals with Federer.

And Del Potro, like Murray and unlike USERNAME, throws in serves at 80-90 to seriously mess with the opponent. Against Federer he was consistently throwing serves in the 90s and the low 100s was his heater of the day.

Unless you have so MASSIVE difference changeup speeds you're not going to have such a huge difference. Even then he didn't hit much higher than 125. When he goes for 130+, he's going for it!

If you can max out 125 and are averaging 101s, then you must be hitting some 80 mph serves too! I doubt he really is though. Young people rarely go for 80 when they can knock it above 110.

Which is what makes ME different! I dont go for the big serves unless I need it. I want a high 1st serve% cause that make me feel more confident during the points. When I start getting pressured thats when I start to put more on the 1st to push who Im playing back, then I can easily take some off and pop in angled serves for aces. Also if I had a long point before my next serve, thats when I might put in a bigger 1st to get a freebie so I can catch my breath (doesnt always work tho lol).

nousername
10-16-2009, 08:55 PM
That's not the biggest problem in his numbers. You NEVER have 20+ mph differential in fastest first serve speed and average first serve speed. Especially not in a tournament! Even if you change up your serve speeds from 125-90 (like Del Potro did to Federer in the US Open and Murray does), your average speed still hovers around 110-115.

The difference between fastest first serve speed and average first serve speed is usually 10 mph unless you're Roddick, who tones it down by 15-30 mph for an insane 1st serve percentage with 125 mph serves!


wow ... you talk like the correlation between avg serve speed and max speed is an exact science, and that if you don't fit in the fold you cannot play tennis (no you didn't say that last part, i added it for effect).

so according to your theory verdasco does not server "correctly":
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day16/1502ms.html

28mph diff in avg speed and max.

halalula1234
10-16-2009, 09:36 PM
Your average serve speed: 85-95
Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ): 103
did a near 120 but way out once :D
Your height:5'6 and a half
your NTRP level: 5.0

SuperDuy
10-16-2009, 10:07 PM
Haha im 5'7 15.5 year old and never measured my serve before, but 5.0s at my club are saying its pretty good. Because I can serve through fence at our club and usually ball gets stuck in fence. I dont know maybe 70 mph fastest? I only seen 1 other guy hit through fence through hit serve and hes 5.0-5.5

I serve just about as hard and flat as I can on first serve, they go in maybe 67% of the time for the reletively hard serves, but if its a warm day and im really warmed up, I hit them as hard as I can without injuring myself and they usually go in the box then into the fence!

Im not sure? serve going through fence is what? 40 mph?

Ken Honecker
10-16-2009, 11:44 PM
Let me be the first on here to state that I must be hitting somewhere in the low 200's since no one in the ATP has ever returned one. Although those scrapy 3.0's I play against have been know to get a piece of one every now and then. Go figure!

OH and by the way I'm 6'1" and somewhere between a 3.0 and 4.5 and play in Spokane where our 3.0's are like Calif 7.0's or how else could they hit me?

Knightmace
10-17-2009, 01:02 AM
Your average serve speed:Don;t know around 149
Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ): 178km
Your height: 181
your NTRP level: 4.5

SuperDuy
10-17-2009, 10:05 AM
Let me be the first on here to state that I must be hitting somewhere in the low 200's since no one in the ATP has ever returned one. Although those scrapy 3.0's I play against have been know to get a piece of one every now and then. Go figure!

OH and by the way I'm 6'1" and somewhere between a 3.0 and 4.5 and play in Spokane where our 3.0's are like Calif 7.0's or how else could they hit me?

kph right?

WildVolley
10-17-2009, 11:15 AM
The people filling out the poll do know that we're talking mph, not kph.

I'll say that I'm suspicious about the 125+ responses, unless Roddick and Karlovic recently joined as members of this board.

chess9
10-17-2009, 11:44 AM
My fastest recent serve speed is 105. My height is 6'0". High 4.0, low 4.5 range.

-Robert

LafayetteHitter
10-17-2009, 12:43 PM
I put myself at 125 plus just to show that these polls mean nothing. I serve 125 all the time, when I watch tv.

SuperDuy
10-17-2009, 02:39 PM
The people filling out the poll do know that we're talking mph, not kph.

I'll say that I'm suspicious about the 125+ responses, unless Roddick and Karlovic recently joined as members of this board.

I understand that now :)

WildVolley
10-17-2009, 03:00 PM
I think the 200 was a joke.

SuperDuy
10-17-2009, 03:06 PM
Jokes man ^ :)

NLBwell
10-17-2009, 03:36 PM
Average serve speed - now: probably around 80 mph. Since I tore my elbow tendon I am now a junkballer.
Fastest Serve Speed - now: maybe 110 or better, but I generally don't hit hard flat serves because they irritate my elbow - way back when: probably around 125mph, one specific serve that I still remember years later I believe to be significantly over 130 - the one perfect serve.
Height: 5' 11"
NTRP: 4.0 (used to play Open way back when)

Also -- slowest serve speed: probaly around 30-40 mph. I will hit it at a high arc and when it hits the ground it will jump up and out - maybe 60mph after the bounce (I'm really not sure how to judge it, but way faster than before the bounce).

ubermeyer
10-17-2009, 04:43 PM
Avg 1st: I dunno, 30 mph maybe (when they are in)?

Fastest 1st in: 55 mph OH YEAH. In practice though :(

Height: 5'6

NTRP: 3.0?

SuperDuy
10-18-2009, 01:59 PM
Got my serve measured today, plus tried out my new racquet today.

Avg 1st: around 102

Fastest 1st in: 112 ya was in too, was a blast it went up so high too

Height: 5'7

NTRP: 4

boojay
10-18-2009, 02:17 PM
Got my serve measured today, plus tried out my new racquet today.

Avg 1st: around 102

Fastest 1st in: 112 ya was in too, was a blast it went up so high too

Height: 5'7

NTRP: 4

So your voting 125+ was all lies???!!! LIIIIES!!! WHYYYY!!??!

Falloutjr
10-18-2009, 05:10 PM
Well im 17yo and 6 feet tall and I mix around my first/second serve. My real first serve is a power slice and is generally around 90-100 mph but its a really high % (80+) and my other is a flat power serve which on avg is about 120 and the highest recorded is 134 but its a very low % serve (like 20) so its pretty clear which is the better one ;D kids don't get obsessed blasting the ball.

meowmix
10-18-2009, 05:22 PM
I'm 16, 5'7.

Average 1st serve is around 75,76, average 2nd serve is around 60. Fastest serve I've hit (with a radar gun) is 81. These were measured either last summer (2008) or maybe the year before, so these have probably gone up a little by now.

Can't think of a name
10-18-2009, 05:25 PM
Your average serve speed: Pure estimation tells me its in the 100s or low 110s
Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ):.... who knows...
Your height:5'7"
your NTRP level: again..estimating against other players i've played, I would say I'm between 4.5 and 5.
good luck with your survey thingy

SuperDuy
10-18-2009, 06:25 PM
So your voting 125+ was all lies???!!! LIIIIES!!! WHYYYY!!??!

lmao, I didn't vote 125+ dude.

Nice Try though :)

boojay
10-18-2009, 07:53 PM
lmao, I didn't vote 125+ dude.

Nice Try though :)

Coulda fooled me:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5516/speedk.jpg

Falloutjr
10-18-2009, 08:08 PM
It's quite easy to have a 80mph spin serve that's 80+% and a 115+mph flat serve that's 20% that's how I am, as states in my original post. Even when I hit flat there are shots that I could've hit better that maybe clock in at 90 and absolute bombs when everything comes together at 130 but thats why its an average because over time it shows how you've done over time so anyone could mess around with a power serve and hit 110 but if they're a pusher and they have a 95% serve topping 70, their average even with the 110 will probably be around 60. That's why you should eliminate outliers in averages lol

Mick
10-18-2009, 08:37 PM
you guys are powerful servers. i remember a few years ago, they showed justine henin playing against a taiwanese wta player in the early round of the us open. the taiwanese player had good serving technique but she never reached 70 mph but most of you guys think you could serve faster than that :shock:

Ano
10-18-2009, 11:28 PM
you guys are powerful servers. i remember a few years ago, they showed justine henin playing against a taiwanese wta player in the early round of the us open. the taiwanese player had good serving technique but she never reached 70 mph but most of you guys think you could serve faster than that :shock:

Perhaps she hit mostly kickers as her first serves?

Yayuk Basuki hit 173 kph (108 MPH) first serve at 1997 Australian Open. She stood 5'4 3/4" and weighed 123 lbs.

http://www.tennisforum.com/archive/index.php/t-96078.html

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/page/Player/Stats/0,,12781~393,00.html

Cody
10-18-2009, 11:48 PM
Coulda fooled me:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5516/speedk.jpg

Owned.

You can see that I voted 50-60 cause that's what I estimate.

Here is the video:http://www.vimeo.com/6717158

This is my serve from a couple of weeks ago.
How fast do you think it is.

EikelBeiter
10-19-2009, 12:34 AM
Owned.

You can see that I voted 50-60 cause that's what I estimate.

Here is the video:http://www.vimeo.com/6717158

This is my serve from a couple of weeks ago.
How fast do you think it is.

50 - 60 ...?

Cody
10-19-2009, 01:04 AM
50 - 60 ...?

Yeh thats what i thought,

Thanks

lawrence
10-19-2009, 02:01 AM
Your average serve speed: 130mph
Your fastest serve speed ( in the box ): Was once clocked at 142mph
Your height:4"1
Your NTRP level: 2.5

ChuDat
10-19-2009, 02:08 AM
Your average serve speed: 100(guessing)
Your fastest serve speed :90(guessing)
Your height: 5'11
your NTRP level: not rated but I would say a 3.5-4.0

boojay
10-19-2009, 09:19 AM
Owned.

You can see that I voted 50-60 cause that's what I estimate.

Here is the video:http://www.vimeo.com/6717158

This is my serve from a couple of weeks ago.
How fast do you think it is.

50-60 sounds about right, maybe even 60-70+. Keep in mind though, you're hitting with a decent amount of spin it seems, so that's a good serve when you get it in and it's placed well. I like how you smirked after completely butchering a few serves, that was amusing.

SuperDuy
10-19-2009, 09:25 AM
Coulda fooled me:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5516/speedk.jpg

LMAO DUDE, I was just joking then lmao.

SuperDuy
10-19-2009, 09:26 AM
Today I will take vid of me serving for u guys :)

only thing is its only high of 40 today so prolly will be slower serves, but just to show my tecnique.

Mick
10-19-2009, 09:36 AM
Perhaps she hit mostly kickers as her first serves?

Yayuk Basuki hit 173 kph (108 MPH) first serve at 1997 Australian Open. She stood 5'4 3/4" and weighed 123 lbs.

http://www.tennisforum.com/archive/index.php/t-96078.html

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/page/Player/Stats/0,,12781~393,00.html

i believe she hit mostly slice and flat serves. when i said she had good serving technique, i meant she had good serving technique compared to us amateurs. she's about justine henin's height. in the first few games of the match, one of the commentators was saying henin was having a problem returning some of the serves because they were too slow :)

Djokovicfan4life
10-19-2009, 09:42 AM
Your average serve speed: 100(guessing)
Your fastest serve speed :90(guessing)
Your height: 5'11
your NTRP level: not rated but I would say a 3.5-4.0

I love how your average 1st serve speed is faster than your fastest serve.

boojay
10-19-2009, 09:47 AM
LMAO DUDE, I was just joking then lmao.

Tsssk tssk....the lies just keep coming. :twisted:

Looking forward to seeing your vid. A first serve avg of over 100 is quite impressive for a club player.

boojay
10-19-2009, 09:49 AM
I love how your average 1st serve speed is faster than your fastest serve.

It takes a special player to do that, not just anyone is able to pull that off. Bending the laws of physics & mathematics is something only an elitist can do.

SuperDuy
10-19-2009, 11:23 AM
I love how your average 1st serve speed is faster than your fastest serve.

lmao i know haha!

ledor
10-19-2009, 12:05 PM
Your average serve speed: about 80mph, avg with spin and flat.
Your fastest serve speed: maybe 115
Your height: 5'10"
your NTRP level: 4.0-4.5

Cody
10-19-2009, 12:59 PM
50-60 sounds about right, maybe even 60-70+. Keep in mind though, you're hitting with a decent amount of spin it seems, so that's a good serve when you get it in and it's placed well. I like how you smirked after completely butchering a few serves, that was amusing.

Yeh, i hope to post a new video soon as my serve is currently my main focus as i didn't have one a month ago.

Orly?yarly!nowai!
10-21-2009, 10:53 PM
Your average serve speed: about 80mph, avg with spin and flat.
Your fastest serve speed: maybe 115
Your height: 5'10"
your NTRP level: 4.0-4.5

Your average serve speed: 1st- 115 2nd 85-90
Your fasted serve speed: 137
Your height: 6'4"
Your weight 220
Your NTRP level: 4.5-5.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGJxugMcni8

Those first serves in my video are about 115 maybe 120 tops

Ken Honecker
10-22-2009, 12:41 AM
I think the 200 was a joke.

Yes I simply had to get that in to compete with all the 1st graders that claimed they were hitting in the 120's. Actually I haven't a clue. I know it isn't what it was 30 years ago when it was enough of a weapon I could play S/V exclusively. Maybe 70+ nowadays.

ChuDat
10-22-2009, 09:00 PM
I love how your average 1st serve speed is faster than your fastest serve.

oh it should be the other way around, my mistake

alidisperanza
10-23-2009, 10:55 PM
Your average serve speed: 1st serve around 107-115
Your fastest serve speed : 1 absolute blast radar-d off the racquet @ 133mph. Fastest I can repeat is around 125
Your height: 6'2
your NTRP level: currently 4.0

EikelBeiter
10-24-2009, 02:32 AM
Your average serve speed: 1st- 115 2nd 85-90
Your fasted serve speed: 137
Your height: 6'4"
Your weight 220
Your NTRP level: 4.5-5.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGJxugMcni8

Those first serves in my video are about 115 maybe 120 tops

You do know that Federers fastest serve is 135 mph at AO 2006 against Haas? I am not calling you a liar, but I believe you have a faulty radar gun!

Cody
10-24-2009, 03:03 AM
Here is my formula for finding your actual serve speed :twisted:

Divide your "Serve Speed" by your answer above then times your NTRP rating

Example a 3.0 that is 6 foot saying he can serve 125 mph

125/6.0 x 3.0 = 62 mph much more believable... :)

Example a 5.5 that is 6 foot saying he can serve 125 mph

125/6.0 x 5.5 = 114.5 mph

lol i gotta work out the height as currently the shorter you are the faster you serve

EikelBeiter
10-24-2009, 04:21 AM
Here is my formula for finding your actual serve speed :twisted:

Divide your "Serve Speed" by your answer above then times your NTRP rating

Example a 3.0 that is 6 foot saying he can serve 125 mph

125*6.0 x 3.0 = 62 mph much more believable... :)

Example a 5.5 that is 6 foot saying he can serve 125 mph

125*6.0 x 5.5 = 114.5 mph

lol i gotta work out the height as currently the shorter you are the faster you serve

i would change the * into a / because the asterix also means multiply and so the answers to you calculations are 2250 and 4125 :)

Cody
10-24-2009, 11:25 AM
Thanks, past your bedtime and math don't mix.......