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richjohn
10-17-2009, 09:24 PM
Unfortunately, it is too cold here (Toronto Canada minus C now) to find a hitting partner to show a "real" strokes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXwfRhMBL5g

lancernrg
10-17-2009, 10:40 PM
Unfortunately, it is too cold here (Toronto Canada minus C now) to find a hitting partner to show a "real" strokes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXwfRhMBL5g


Don't waste your time practicing against the wall it won't do you any good, go find yourself a partner and repost a real video.:oops:

But based on what I've seen, here.

- Poor Footwork
- Lack of knee bend
- Arming the ball (no follow through)

wyutani
10-17-2009, 10:58 PM
no power man. its like ur afraid to hit the ball. hit it with confidence.

lettuce
10-17-2009, 11:00 PM
Don't waste your time practicing against the wall it won't do you any good...

Tell that to Monica Seles.

KiNG
10-17-2009, 11:14 PM
Don't waste your time practicing against the wall it won't do you any good, go find yourself a partner and repost a real video.:oops:

But based on what I've seen, here.

- Poor Footwork
- Lack of knee bend
- Arming the ball (no follow through)

To the OP:

Hitting against the wall is good. Be consistent with that. Unless the wall is not flat, your shots should not be all over the place.

Before I can post any opinion, I'd suggest you to try to hit on the same spot on the wall most of the time, with your forehand and backhand. From what I see, if you hit like that against the wall, your hitting partner would have a hard time returning the ball back to you.

Be consistent with your swing and form, pick a spot about 6 feet high on the wall and try to hit it. Once you got better, you would not have to move your feet much while hitting against wall, instead, you would be just turning and opening your shoulders. If you see what I mean..

lawrence
10-18-2009, 01:36 AM
Hitting against a wall will be good for your strokes, that's for sure. But I can tell you from first hand experience it will make you slightly lazy with your footwork.
That said I think your strokes look pretty good, I'm assuming the wall is actually a fence covered by a sheet of something? Either way, practice split stepping when the ball is bouncing off the wall, that way you'll be reminded to practice your footwork too.

Warriorroger
10-18-2009, 02:02 AM
Your strokes look very natural, would love playing you. Looks good. For the other comments: hit harder ? poor footwork??. He is hitting against a wall for crying out loud.

richjohn
10-18-2009, 08:13 AM
You raised a very good point that I shall split step when the ball is bouncing off the wall. Thanks.



Hitting against a wall will be good for your strokes, that's for sure. But I can tell you from first hand experience it will make you slightly lazy with your footwork.
That said I think your strokes look pretty good, I'm assuming the wall is actually a fence covered by a sheet of something? Either way, practice split stepping when the ball is bouncing off the wall, that way you'll be reminded to practice your footwork too.

richjohn
10-18-2009, 08:18 AM
Thanks. Can you give some more details?

Don't waste your time practicing against the wall it won't do you any good, go find yourself a partner and repost a real video.:oops:

But based on what I've seen, here.

- Poor Footwork
- Lack of knee bend
- Arming the ball (no follow through)

richjohn
10-18-2009, 08:24 AM
I rarely practiced against the wall..probably three or four times whole summer. More often I used it to video tape my strokes, so I controlled the time and pace.

It is a good point to hit on the same spot. I saw someone on youtube did amazing job to hit on to a small square area.....all the time.

To the OP:

Hitting against the wall is good. Be consistent with that. Unless the wall is not flat, your shots should not be all over the place.

Before I can post any opinion, I'd suggest you to try to hit on the same spot on the wall most of the time, with your forehand and backhand. From what I see, if you hit like that against the wall, your hitting partner would have a hard time returning the ball back to you.

Be consistent with your swing and form, pick a spot about 6 feet high on the wall and try to hit it. Once you got better, you would not have to move your feet much while hitting against wall, instead, you would be just turning and opening your shoulders. If you see what I mean..

richjohn
10-18-2009, 08:28 AM
Are you in Toronto too? It is freezing now. You can tell from my exhale air. Yesterday I played my first indoor this year....

Your strokes look very natural, would love playing you. Looks good. For the other comments: hit harder ? poor footwork??. He is hitting against a wall for crying out loud.

Bagumbawalla
10-18-2009, 08:53 AM
The basic motion of your strokes looks pretty good, the main thing I would work on (to start) is your foot work- getting into position earlier, setting up and getting your weight transfer moving through the ball. Also, (once you have found your groove) try to hit every ball, as much as possible, exactly the same-- and you need to practice enough so all that comes naturally, even in match conditions.

crystal_clear
10-18-2009, 06:50 PM
Your FH looks very good but the 2HBH except the first few balls, didn't get low enough, should get more under the ball to get more topspin.

tikkimonkey
10-18-2009, 07:05 PM
Unfortunately, it is too cold here (Toronto Canada minus C now) to find a hitting partner to show a "real" strokes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXwfRhMBL5g

I can't really tell, but it looks like your flatter forehands would not stay in the courts.

crash1929
10-18-2009, 07:42 PM
hitting against a wall is bettter than nothing at all.


i agree about hitting with confidence.

Venetian
10-18-2009, 07:43 PM
Slightly off topic but, is that a Drive-Z Lite you're hitting with?

split-step
10-18-2009, 08:16 PM
You raised a very good point that I shall split step when the ball is bouncing off the wall. Thanks.

There is no merit to practising split-stepping while hitting against the wall.
It serves no purpose to your tennis.
Hitting against the wall demands faster reaction time than hitting against a partner in a volleying position.
There is simply no point to split-stepping. You already know where the ball is going based on how you hit it to the wall.

Use the wall to groove your timing/mechanics.

Also to lawrence, the wall will not make your footwork lazy. Lack of footwork drills and fitness training make you lazy.

richjohn
10-18-2009, 09:41 PM
Yes, it is. It is an old version though.

I picked up this light racquet because it is flexible and I can hit hard while still keeping the ball in. Amazingly, you have to generate your own power with this racquet......



Slightly off topic but, is that a Drive-Z Lite you're hitting with?

richjohn
10-18-2009, 09:46 PM
It was minus C.

The ball did not bounce but I will not use it as an excuse. I improved my 2hbh but it is still way too flat. Actually, I caught one problem with my FH...I will tell you on Monday.

That is how video clips help improve your game, isn't it?

Your FH looks very good but the 2HBH except the first few balls, didn't get low enough, should get more under the ball to get more topspin.

LeeD
10-19-2009, 09:57 AM
I think...
You backhand looks allright! Bent back knee equals transferance of weight to the front foot. Good.
Your forehand is all arm and shoulder, moving back lotsa times, but mainly you're afraid to stand in and hit the ball. If you're worried about too much depth, hit with more topspin. It should look like your backhand.
And hitting the wall is not easy to look good and solid, unless you spend lots of time hitting the wall.

cesarmo03
10-19-2009, 05:56 PM
Don't waste your time practicing against the wall it won't do you any good, go find yourself a partner and repost a real video.:oops:

But based on what I've seen, here.

- Poor Footwork
- Lack of knee bend
- Arming the ball (no follow through)

Dont want to be rude, that is the worst advice i read in some time, the wall is an excellent hitting partner when u dont have a friend to hit with or if you want to practice your strokes (im writing from personal experience) here u can find a thread where a user post some videos and talk on how he has improve his game against the wall. So keep smashing it.:)

richjohn
10-20-2009, 04:29 AM
Thanks and for sure you not rude.

On the other hand, I chose to post on the internet and you know, he has the freedom to show his opinions here. Maybe he was trying to help but had difficulty to deliver his ideas.


Dont want to be rude, that is the worst advice i read in some time, the wall is an excellent hitting partner when u dont have a friend to hit with or if you want to practice your strokes (im writing from personal experience) here u can find a thread where a user post some videos and talk on how he has improve his game against the wall. So keep smashing it.:)

snr
10-20-2009, 04:37 AM
I"m in Toronto too. Out of curiosity what club is that?

It is getting cold thought his week should be warmer! Gonna have to be strictly indoor soon if it gets colder again..

You look a little off balanced on your backhand, but IMO that could be the result of the wall, sending the ball back before you're even really done following through, lol. Also, seems like your hips aren't rotating fully on those.

Mind you, thats just what I see, I'm not really qualified to assess :P. :)

richjohn
10-20-2009, 11:30 AM
I think that is a good point. I noticed it too and I am actually working on increasing hip rotation, which will help the weight transfer too.

And I had to admit that my backhand follow through was artifial...but considering the fact that I just switched to 2hbh for 8 months...

It was minus C that day. The ball bounced much lower than usual..

I was playing in Stephen Leacock Club and now indoor at L'Amoreaux. How about you?

I"m in Toronto too. Out of curiosity what club is that?

It is getting cold thought his week should be warmer! Gonna have to be strictly indoor soon if it gets colder again..

You look a little off balanced on your backhand, but IMO that could be the result of the wall, sending the ball back before you're even really done following through, lol. Also, seems like your hips aren't rotating fully on those.

Mind you, thats just what I see, I'm not really qualified to assess :P. :)

snr
10-20-2009, 12:26 PM
Hillcrest before, and now NYTA for indoor. Played at l'amoreux a few times in the summer when it was public on rainy days.

We should hit sometime, maybe in the summer when tis easier to do so LOL.

Just switched to a 2H eh? Nice.

advantagetennis1
10-20-2009, 12:37 PM
you should use your left wrist to brush up the back of the tennis ball more on your backhand like you do right before you make contact on your fh

richjohn
10-20-2009, 12:58 PM
My instructor said the same thing.....:-D

My backhand motion is stiff and shots from backhand are flat due to lack of topspin.



you should use your left wrist to brush up the back of the tennis ball more on your backhand like you do right before you make contact on your fh

brado32003
10-20-2009, 01:07 PM
Unfortunately you strokes can not be fixed...

richjohn
10-20-2009, 06:52 PM
I do not agree.

I started to play tennis from May 2007. I am pretty happy with my forehand now. I switched from 1hbh to 2hbh since Feb this year. It is not perfect but it is improved....almost everyday.

Unfortunately you strokes can not be fixed...

callen3615
10-26-2009, 08:22 AM
hit harder ? poor footwork??. He is hitting against a wall for crying out loud.LOL

Hitting against a wall sucks.

Your strokes look like mine. but more consistent.

crystal_clear
10-26-2009, 09:02 AM
Hillcrest before, and now NYTA for indoor. Played at l'amoreux a few times in the summer when it was public on rainy days.

We should hit sometime, maybe in the summer when tis easier to do so LOL.

Just switched to a 2H eh? Nice.

There are many A players at Hillcrest.

How do you like NYTA? Are there any organized games there like house leagues? I live close to NYTA but I play at Lam in winter.

What's your rating BTW?