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Mikael
10-25-2009, 06:38 AM
Anyone else feel the same? Instead of hitting through the ball it seems like he is almost just "slapping" the ball.

Check out these pics:

http://www.tennis.com/uploadedImages/Your_Game/Instruction_Articles/Forehand/2008_08_19_complete_tsonga2.JPG

http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0505/6997/122519_feature.jpg

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Media/Images/Photo-Galleries/2009/Halle/tues1jpg.aspx


His cramped forehand technique certainly contradicts what virtually all pros advocate, which is the extension of the hitting arm...

dincuss
10-25-2009, 07:17 AM
His cramped forehand technique certainly contradicts what virtually all pros advocate, which is the extension of the hitting arm...

Many pros use a double bend forehand, Djokovic would be another example....

Mikael
10-25-2009, 07:25 AM
Many pros use a double bend forehand, Djokovic would be another example....

I mean extension after impact, not extension at impact.

SourStraws
10-25-2009, 07:27 AM
Some pros dont need to extend as much because of the amount of repetition on their strokes whereas a regular player needs to extend in order to have a good shot

S.S.

Falloutjr
10-25-2009, 07:44 AM
He's the #8 player in the world; he's obviously doing something right :P Sometimes the form most people would recommend isn't what works for everyone. You teach form to get repetitive point of impact. If Tsonga's point of contact is the same as any other form, it really doesn't make much difference other than how it looks.

Mikael
10-25-2009, 08:49 AM
He's the #8 player in the world; he's obviously doing something right :P Sometimes the form most people would recommend isn't what works for everyone. You teach form to get repetitive point of impact. If Tsonga's point of contact is the same as any other form, it really doesn't make much difference other than how it looks.

Yeah, I guess it works. I'd never seen any other player with that kind of form though, slapping the ball. Some have more extension than others, but sometimes it seems like Tsonga has almost 0 extension.

ScovilleJenkins
10-25-2009, 10:07 AM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_soUq4Nwi_d8/SuST6LKtGAI/AAAAAAAAAB8/9PWNi80qVqU/s800/Jo-Wilfried%20Tsonga%201.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_soUq4Nwi_d8/SuSUcojlYSI/AAAAAAAAACU/iI-AENKjzIM/s800/Jo-Wilfried%20Tsonga%20Forehand%202.jpg
seems like he keeps the same elbow bend all the way through the stroke

NamRanger
10-25-2009, 11:41 AM
He hits an eastern forehand that's why it appears the way it does.

Rjtennis
10-25-2009, 11:53 AM
Those are a just a couple pics but I cant imagine he does not extend more. All of the pros extend their arm to make early contact with the ball. You could not generate power like he does just using your arm.

Mikael
10-25-2009, 01:55 PM
He hits an eastern forehand that's why it appears the way it does.

I don't think it's related to the grip...

Sampras has an eastern forehand and he extends very far with his hitting arm.

http://216.194.87.192/forehand.jpg (granted he is a kid on this pic but I couldn't find a better one)

Nadal has a western grip and also extends very far:

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Sports/abc_nadal_070606_ssh.jpg

ubermeyer
10-25-2009, 03:17 PM
when you can hit it that hard, you aren't doing much wrong

Wes_Loves_Dunlop
10-25-2009, 06:48 PM
I don't think it's related to the grip...

Sampras has an eastern forehand and he extends very far with his hitting arm.

http://216.194.87.192/forehand.jpg (granted he is a kid on this pic but I couldn't find a better one)

Nadal has a western grip and also extends very far:

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Sports/abc_nadal_070606_ssh.jpg

nadal uses a semi-western

ubermeyer
10-25-2009, 06:50 PM
nadal uses a semi-western

:shock:

you obviously don't watch tennis. Nadal uses extreme western...

ms87
10-25-2009, 07:07 PM
:shock:

you obviously don't watch tennis. Nadal uses extreme western...

you are wrong. nadal uses a semi western grip. there are countless pictures to confirm this, as well as a video on youtube where rafa himself declares it (with racquet in hand).

lilxjohnyy
10-25-2009, 07:48 PM
whenever i see cilic play, it looks like he slaps a lot of forehand... but maybe its just me .

akv89
10-25-2009, 09:45 PM
He more than compensates for it with the power he generates from his legs and rotating his hips.

Migelowsky
10-26-2009, 08:46 PM
Yes his elbow is always locked, but it works for him,
although I don't think is a good model to copy.
Jim Courier also had a similar forehand, and if you take Monica Seles
right hand out of her swing it would look similar.
I tried to find a pic of Monica's forehand after contact but just
was able to find this one

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/388/selesmonica1998nfl.jpg

Tsonga#1fan
12-01-2009, 04:13 AM
I don't know what you guys call an "eastern" forehand grip, but Tsonga's is anything but that. At the very least, it is sem-western and seems to be more western. It would be difficult to have that compact follow through motion and not have more extension with an eastern grip. Look at how his wrist is cocked well behind the racquet on follow through. Western.

Andres
12-01-2009, 04:34 AM
:shock:

you obviously don't watch tennis. Nadal uses extreme western...
He doesn't. He uses a semi western.

Anaconda
12-01-2009, 04:40 AM
Tsonga's forehand is fine and can hammer it - he just needs to tone the power down a little and play % better.

NamRanger
12-01-2009, 05:31 AM
I don't know what you guys call an "eastern" forehand grip, but Tsonga's is anything but that. At the very least, it is sem-western and seems to be more western. It would be difficult to have that compact follow through motion and not have more extension with an eastern grip. Look at how his wrist is cocked well behind the racquet on follow through. Western.




It's definitely eastern.

jazzyfunkybluesy
12-01-2009, 06:06 AM
Agreed his forehand is one of the top 10 in the game. I am interested to see which Babolat he will use. (Not paint job)

Tsonga#1fan
12-01-2009, 06:14 AM
It's definitely eastern.

If that is eastern, it's the most western looking eastern I've ever seen!