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MuseFan
11-27-2009, 12:06 AM
If you look at his "golden era" from Nov 03 to Feb 07, the one thing that probably stands out more then anything is his consistency in making very few unforced errors. Since 3/07 to present, the days of making shocking amounts of UFEs have become commonplace. What happened between Dubai and Indian Wells that popped Roger's bubble of consistency?

kabob
11-27-2009, 12:14 AM
Uh... he got older. And got married. And had twin girls. And etc.

kOaMaster
11-27-2009, 12:15 AM
hm. federer always made many ue. it's not like he won every rally in 2006 too. but he had almost every time positive winner/ue-statistics. not only +1 or 2, but maybe +10, +15 or +20.

BreakPoint
11-27-2009, 12:16 AM
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Anaconda
11-27-2009, 12:16 AM
Different matchups represent different results. The field didn't get stronger or anything, but guys like Murray and djokovic have the right games to beat Federer.

Cesc Fabregas
11-27-2009, 12:18 AM
Federer's getting older he needs to switch to a larger frame to compensate for that.

BreakPoint
11-27-2009, 12:22 AM
Federer's getting older he needs to switch to a larger frame to compensate for that.
You mean like the way Sampras switched to a larger frame while he was on tour when he got older? Remind me again which racquet he used to win the 2002 US Open at the age of 31? :-?

MuseFan
11-27-2009, 12:25 AM
Maybe his nerves were shot from that 41 match winning streak and winning his 10th slam. Honestly during the 2007 AO trophy presentation he looked more relieved then anything. Not that calmness he exuded after previous victories. You could tell right then something was "up"...

Cesc Fabregas
11-27-2009, 12:31 AM
You mean like the way Sampras switched to a larger frame while he was on tour when he got older? Remind me again which racquet he used to win the 2002 US Open at the age of 31? :-?

Sampras has said many times that he regrets not switching to a larger frame towards the end of his career, he was at a disadvantage because most other guys were playing with more modern racquets.

BreakPoint
11-27-2009, 12:41 AM
Sampras has said many times that he regrets not switching to a larger frame towards the end of his career, he was at a disadvantage because most other guys were playing with more modern racquets.
Yeah, Sampras was at such a "disadvantage" that he won more Slams than anyone else using that small racquet, and no one else was even close during his era. :-?

And if he had switched, he would have said that he regretted switching to a new frame during his career which prevented him from breaking Roy Emerson's record of 12 Grand Slam singles titles. Hindsight is always 20/20. In fact, I'd bet you now wish you never started those threads about Soderling and Del Potro. :oops:

Tsonga#1fan
11-27-2009, 12:55 AM
He got legitimate competition that forced him to play harder, he can't just coast on cruise control anymore.

Anaconda
11-27-2009, 01:09 AM
He got legitimate competition that forced him to play harder, he can't just coast on cruise control anymore.

Wrong. Prime Murray/Djokovic/JMDP would have never made the top 5 back in 2005.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
11-27-2009, 01:10 AM
Wrong. Prime Murray/Djokovic/JMDP would have never made the top 5 back in 2005.

Is this a joke ?

rwn
11-27-2009, 01:12 AM
If you look at his "golden era" from Nov 03 to Feb 07, the one thing that probably stands out more then anything is his consistency in making very few unforced errors. Since 3/07 to present, the days of making shocking amounts of UFEs have become commonplace. What happened between Dubai and Indian Wells that popped Roger's bubble of consistency?

He's won 5 slams since then. Becker and Edberg won 6 slams in their entire career.

Anaconda
11-27-2009, 01:14 AM
Is this a joke ?

No it's not. Federer and Nadal were cemented #1 & #2 respecfully. Safin and Hewitt had 2 slams, Roddick was still on 1 slam with better results overall in slams and masters at that point than Murray and JMDP. FACT!!!

Hell, Murray and djokovic couldn't beat Roddick this year and Hewitt took out JMDP at wimbledon.

MuseFan
11-27-2009, 01:26 AM
He got legitimate competition that forced him to play harder, he can't just coast on cruise control anymore.

Canas was legit competition in 2007? He alone dealt 2 back-to-back losses to Fed in March 2007 and had the whole tennis world buzzing with talk of "what's wrong with Federer".

Sartorius
11-27-2009, 01:29 AM
If you look at his "golden era" from Nov 03 to Feb 07, the one thing that probably stands out more then anything is his consistency in making very few unforced errors. Since 3/07 to present, the days of making shocking amounts of UFEs have become commonplace. What happened between Dubai and Indian Wells that popped Roger's bubble of consistency?

Regression toward the mean (http://www.socialresearchmethods.net/tutorial/Cheng/lcheng.htm)

sureshs
11-27-2009, 05:36 AM
You mean like the way Sampras switched to a larger frame while he was on tour when he got older? Remind me again which racquet he used to win the 2002 US Open at the age of 31? :-?

That works against someone like Agassi. Maybe Agassi was on drugs and imagined Sampras' racquet to be a huge fishing net and got scared.

Mick
11-27-2009, 06:40 AM
once you have won 15 grand slam titles, you very are close to being full and are not as hungry as you were before.

AM95
11-27-2009, 06:50 AM
at the OP: get a life..he lost to del potro because he tried playing the same strategy that lost him the US Open.

or....

maybe he just tanked in order to avoid playing murray :D you never know

MuseFan
11-27-2009, 07:35 AM
Maybe you're right - lack of motivation after winning #15 and GOAT-hood.