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BreakPoint
12-02-2009, 08:13 PM
Both Tiger and Federer are on Team Gillette after all.

Place your votes!

MuseFan
12-02-2009, 08:14 PM
Failed troll attempt. Try harder next time.

volleynets
12-02-2009, 08:14 PM
No poll there? With Tiger's wife lol?

IvanisevicServe
12-02-2009, 08:17 PM
Only with Gavin Rossdale.

I wouldn't blame him if it were with Gwen Stefani, though. :)

BreakPoint
12-02-2009, 08:20 PM
Failed troll attempt. Try harder next time.
Maybe you should. How is this thread you started any different? :confused:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=300567

malakas
12-02-2009, 08:22 PM
But Henry didn't,so Mirka is safe.

MuseFan
12-02-2009, 08:23 PM
Maybe you should. How is this thread you started any different? :confused:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=300567

The diff is we know you hate Federer. I was only trying to contrast how different they are, and to show that Roger is a standup guy.

GustafsonFanatic
12-02-2009, 08:24 PM
At least Roger is the only tennis player who can be 100% sure his wife won't cheat on him (even if she wanted).

MuseFan
12-02-2009, 08:25 PM
At least Roger is the only tennis player who can be 100% sure his wife won't cheat on him (even if she wanted).

Then you know nothing about Mirka. She's the desirable one in this marriage. :) She almost married an Arabian prince.

BreakPoint
12-02-2009, 08:25 PM
The diff is we know you hate Federer. I was only trying to contrast how different they are, and to show that Roger is a standup guy.
And isn't that what I did here? Look at who voted.

And you're right, I hate Federer and love Nadal. :oops:

Mick
12-02-2009, 08:31 PM
tiger wood likes a pretty face
federer cares more about personality

jamesblakefan#1
12-02-2009, 08:32 PM
But Henry didn't,so Mirka is safe.

Henry's a cheater on the handball, Tiger's a cheater on his wife....Roger, be aware, all good/bad things come in 3s.

GustafsonFanatic
12-02-2009, 08:35 PM
Then you know nothing about Mirka. She's the desirable one in this marriage. :) She almost married an Arabian prince.

C'mon, Arabian princes have hundreds of wives, grouped into various categories. Guess which one Mirka would go to.

heycal
12-02-2009, 08:41 PM
I can't undertand why this Tiger Wood story is getting so much attention, or why it's anyone business. He's not a politician, there is no apparent crime committed, and it's not surprising or newsworthy that a mega-celeb cheats on his wife.

Who gives a damn? Why is he even addressing this issue at all publicly? He doesn't owe his fans or anyone else any explanations or any apologies.

The whole thing is nuts.

As for the actual question of the poll, who knows what's in Federer's mind or heart or what his sexual appetites are? There is simply no telling, and the Tiger Wood revelations have no bearing on what he might or might not do himself.

lawrence
12-02-2009, 08:41 PM
The diff is we know you hate Federer. I was only trying to contrast how different they are, and to show that Roger is a standup guy.

BP is actually an avid Fedfan, I think you're confusing him with someone else lol.

GustafsonFanatic
12-02-2009, 08:48 PM
BP is actually an avid Fedfan, I think you're confusing him with someone else lol.

Yeah, lol, I just realized that a few days ago. I only saw his Pete avatar and naturally assumed the obvious ...which wasn't actually true.

malakas
12-02-2009, 08:51 PM
Henry's a cheater on the handball, Tiger's a cheater on his wife....Roger, be aware, all good/bad things come in 3s.

nahh he's not a cheater.He's just a football player.That's normal for them.seriously.

Bud
12-02-2009, 09:15 PM
Both Tiger and Federer are on Team Gillette after all.

Place your votes!

How about... No because Mirka keeps him on a short leash and travels with him to tournaments ;-)

norbac
12-02-2009, 09:17 PM
He already Haas...

BreakPoint
12-02-2009, 09:29 PM
I can't undertand why this Tiger Wood story is getting so much attention, or why it's anyone business. He's not a politician, there is no apparent crime committed, and it's not surprising or newsworthy that a mega-celeb cheats on his wife.

Who gives a damn? Why is he even addressing this issue at all publicly? He doesn't owe his fans or anyone else any explanations or any apologies.

Oh, really? Have you heard of Bill Clinton, Kobe Bryant, Eliot Spitzer, John Edwards, David Letterman, etc.?

Tiger's fans are the reason he's made over a billion dollars playing golf. Without fans, he'd be nothing but a caddy working at some public golf course for minimum wage. He owes his fans for EVERYTHING that he has.

RelentlessAttack
12-02-2009, 09:34 PM
Only with Gavin Rossdale.


More like with Wawrinka, :lol:

But seriously, I think definitely not.

heycal
12-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Oh, really? Have you heard of Bill Clinton, Kobe Bryant, Eliot Spitzer, John Edwards, David Letterman, etc.?

Excellent list. Now go back and read my post, and then tell me how all of those men's situations are different from Tiger Woods.

BreakPoint
12-02-2009, 10:00 PM
Excellent list. Now go back and read my post, and then tell me how all of those men's situations are different from Tiger Woods.
ALL of them have constituents - whether they be voters or fans. Voters keep you or throw you out of office. Fans vote with their pocketbooks. That's why ALL of them had to make public apologies.

heycal
12-02-2009, 11:18 PM
ALL of them have constituents - whether they be voters or fans. Voters keep you or throw you out of office. Fans vote with their pocketbooks. That's why ALL of them had to make public apologies.

No, all of them were either politicians or involved in incidents involving criminal behavior. They were virtually forced to speak out.

Not Tiger Woods. He is a private citizen involved in a non-criminal matter that is nobody's business. I'm not sure why anyone would ask him to speak out, or why he would agree to do that. He owes no one any explanations or apologies.

Cesc Fabregas
12-02-2009, 11:31 PM
Tiger's wife is attractive and he cheater on her, Mirka aint attractive so I see no reason why Federer wont cheat on her.

BreakPoint
12-02-2009, 11:36 PM
No, all of them were either politicians or involved in incidents involving criminal behavior. They were virtually forced to speak out.

Not Tiger Woods. He is a private citizen involved in a non-criminal matter that is nobody's business. I'm not sure why anyone would ask him to speak out, or why he would agree to do that. He owes no one any explanations or apologies.
If Tiger Woods wanted his fans to continue to watch him play (both live and on TV), to continue to buy products with his name on it, and to continue to care about him or worship him as their hero, he needed to apologize. Adultery is still one of the seven deadly sins, is it not? That doesn't sit well with many people. No different than robbing a bank or killing someone for many people. Like it or not, he's a public figure, and as such, he owes the public an explanation. He has an image to maintain. Heroes are held to a higher standard. That's the price of fame.

BreakPoint
12-02-2009, 11:37 PM
Tiger's wife is attractive and he cheater on her, Mirka aint attractive so I see no reason why Federer wont cheat on her.
Um...maybe because Federer is not superficial and he actually loves Mirka? :-?

heycal
12-02-2009, 11:56 PM
Adultery is still one of the seven deadly sins, is it not? No different than robbing a bank or killing someone for many people.

Really? No different, huh?

If Tiger Woods wanted his fans to continue to watch him play (both live and on TV), to continue to buy products with his name on it, and to continue to care about him or worship him as their hero, he needed to apologize.

No, he didn't. That's a myth created by the media and perpetuated by people like you. If he said "This is a private matter and I will not comment upon it ever again" I don't think it would have hurt his career or image, or that kids or whoever cares about him would stop caring about him or buying products he endorses. You really think a golf fan is not going to watch the world's greatest golfer play on TV because he cheated on his wife and didn't offer a public apology?

Not to mention making an apology hardly makes the issue all better. After all, you say "many" view adultery as in a league with murder, so why would people suddenly say "Oh, he issued an apology? Then I love him again! And heck, if O.J. would only apologize for that dang murder, I'd love him too!"

He should have kept his mouth shut. He's not an elected official and this is not a criminal matter. I think he was poorly advised here, and the reason he was poorly advised was because his advisors are making the same mistake you are making, which is somehow thinking this incident is in a league with Spitzer or Kobe or those other scandals and thus calls for a similar response. It is not. It is an entirely private matter involving a private citizen.


Like it or not, he's a public figure, and as such, he owes the public an explanation.

He absolutely does not owe the public an explanation. If you want to argue that offering an explanation is a smart PR move, that is one thing. But he certainly has no obligation to tell the public anything about his private life.

What next, demanding Tiger reveal his favorite sex positions and porn sites because he's a public figure and people might find that interesting as well?

malakas
12-02-2009, 11:59 PM
Tiger's wife is attractive and he cheater on her, Mirka aint attractive so I see no reason why Federer wont cheat on her.

if she wasn't attractive to him then why would he marry her and have children with her and be with her together in every tournament?:confused:

Again you prove your exceptional trolling skills.:)

Docalex007
12-03-2009, 12:09 AM
I can't undertand why this Tiger Wood story is getting so much attention, or why it's anyone business. He's not a politician, there is no apparent crime committed, and it's not surprising or newsworthy that a mega-celeb cheats on his wife.

Adultery is a crime. There's speculation he's cheated on his wife.

BreakPoint
12-03-2009, 12:15 AM
He absolutely does not owe the public an explanation. If you want to argue that offering an explanation is a smart PR move, that is one thing. But he certainly has no obligation to tell the public anything about his private life.

Tiger Woods makes his money by appealing to the public, that makes him a public figure. Without the public, he's nothing! Thus, kids have a right to know if the hero that they look up to and hope to emulate is really a slimeball that cheats on his wife while she was 7 months pregnant with his child without any remorse at all. Do you really think most women around the world are holding him in as high regard as they did a week ago? If so, you are sorely mistaken. Apologies and showing remorse goes a long way with women.

BreakPoint
12-03-2009, 12:17 AM
Adultery is a crime. There's speculation he's cheated on his wife.
That "speculation" went out the window with the events of today. He's clearly guilty of adultery and has admitted as much in his public apology.

CMM
12-03-2009, 12:18 AM
Adultery is a crime.
No, it's not.:|

heycal
12-03-2009, 12:18 AM
if she wasn't attractive to him then why would he marry her and have children with her and be with her together in every tournament?:confused:

Doesn't necessarily mean he finds her particularly attractive or that he wouldn't cheat on her. And I think the poster was trying to say that at least Tiger can try and resist temptation by saying 'hey, I'm married to a hot model!" while Federer can not.

Not that any of this has much to do with whether either of these guys would cheat on thier wives. Much more complex than that.

Cesc Fabregas
12-03-2009, 12:20 AM
I don't know what the attraction is towards Woods, I know he has the fame and money but he doesn't exactly have Hollywood good looks, the other member of the Gillete 3 Thierry Henry is the best looking.

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/07/thierryhenryREX_450x652.jpg

BreakPoint
12-03-2009, 12:26 AM
Adultery is a crime. There's speculation he's cheated on his wife.

No, it's not.:|
Yes, it is. Adultery is a crime in Florida, and in about half of the states in the U.S.

http://law.justia.com/florida/codes/TitleXLVI/ch0798.html

You can spend 6 months in jail for adultery in Florida.

http://www.crimeandpunishment.net/FL/

malakas
12-03-2009, 12:26 AM
Doesn't necessarily mean he finds her particularly attractive or that he wouldn't cheat on her. And I think the poster was trying to say that at least Tiger can try and resist temptation by saying 'hey, I'm married to a hot model!" while Federer can not.

Not that any of this has much to do with whether either of these guys would cheat on thier wives. Much more complex than that.

attractive doesn't mean only in a physical way.When you love someone you end up finding them attractive as a person both as character and appearance.

At least that's what I most people do.:?

malakas
12-03-2009, 12:33 AM
Yes, it is. Adultery is a crime in Florida, and in about half of the states in the U.S.

http://law.justia.com/florida/codes/TitleXLVI/ch0798.html

You can spend 6 months in jail for adultery in Florida.

http://www.crimeandpunishment.net/FL/


wow!!:shock: :shock: :shock:
I think it's also a crime in Saudi Arabia.Look you have many in common after all!

David L
12-03-2009, 12:55 AM
Both Tiger and Federer are on Team Gillette after all.

Place your votes!
If I were a betting man, I would not put my money on someone in Federer's position being exclusive to his wife for the rest of his life, although it is possible. He has been in this relationship since his teens already. Now everything seems fine while he is in the middle of his career, but 10 or 20 years from now or later, when things start to slow down and boredom looms, anything could happen.

CMM
12-03-2009, 12:56 AM
Yes, it is. Adultery is a crime in Florida, and in about half of the states in the U.S.

http://law.justia.com/florida/codes/TitleXLVI/ch0798.html

You can spend 6 months in jail for adultery in Florida.

http://www.crimeandpunishment.net/FL/

This is crazy.:shock:

David L
12-03-2009, 01:01 AM
Yes, it is. Adultery is a crime in Florida, and in about half of the states in the U.S.

http://law.justia.com/florida/codes/TitleXLVI/ch0798.html

You can spend 6 months in jail for adultery in Florida.

http://www.crimeandpunishment.net/FL/
Amazing. Even fornication is illegal. Obviously, these laws are no longer enforced, but are old statutes left from a more puritanical age.

malakas
12-03-2009, 01:11 AM
In Michigan adultery is punished with life sentence!!!!!:shock:
LOL

BreakPoint
12-03-2009, 01:29 AM
Amazing. Even fornication is illegal. Obviously, these laws are no longer enforced, but are old statutes left from a more puritanical age.
Not necessarily:

"JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A Jacksonville woman recently had her husband arrested for what many people regard as a questions of morality, not legality -- adultery.

However, in the state of Florida, adultery is a criminal offense.

Florida law states, "Whoever lives in an open state of adultery shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second-degree."


http://www.news4jax.com/news/10255942/detail.html

BreakPoint
12-03-2009, 01:31 AM
In Michigan adultery is punished with life sentence!!!!!:shock:
LOL
I think you mean marriage is punished with a life sentence! :wink: :lol: LOL

slice bh compliment
12-03-2009, 02:04 AM
I don't know what the attraction is towards Woods, I know he has the fame and money but he doesn't exactly have Hollywood good looks, the other member of the Gillete 3 Thierry Henry is the best looking.

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/07/thierryhenryREX_450x652.jpg

Thierry, unshaven member of the Gillette trio, looking like [and dressed like] the hipster bike tech at my LBS. They could be twins. With different watches, LOL.

Well, we need to stop putting all the great athletes up on a pedestal. Armstrong cheated on his family. Now this with Woods not honoring his wedding vows. Jordan's gambling. Andre's use of a hard drug. While I'm not shocked by any of it, it's a sad reminder that we're all human (yes, even superathletes with multi-million dollar deals).

A couple of thoughts:

Honoring wedding vows and living cleanly used to be expected. Now, someone is a great guy or a standup guy if he sleeps exclusively with his wife.

I don't buy the 'rigors of fame' thing, at all. There is temptation everywhere (even for us regular guys).

Last night, I did ask my wife if maybe Lance and Tiger must have married the wrong women......and I asked her what those women must have done to make their husbands look elsewhere for female companionship? Awful. Naturally, I kept a straight face, she got a little heated, then she got it and laughed.

Seriously, though, they live in a world surrounded by yes-men and women. I don't admire anything about them but their athletic skills and their work ethic. I think their personal indiscretions are huge news because the people make it so .... and we put on false airs of superiority. Fans love to worship a star, then they love to stomp on him when he falls.

What's better? Don't hold them up so high in the first place? Or expect the best conduct and be outraged at the worst?

I don't know. But, it's a nice lesson for the rest of us about fidelity, faithfulness and a simple/clean life.

Fedace
12-03-2009, 02:32 AM
News flash. Roger already sleeps with 5-6 different women on tour. Mirka looks the other way, cause she loves him and needs the money.

Anaconda
12-03-2009, 02:38 AM
News flash. Roger already sleeps with 5-6 different women on tour. Mirka looks the other way, cause she loves him and needs the money.

Lol. i'm pretty sure she's got a big bank without Federer anyway.


But seriously, Federer is loaded, he could have chosen any girl and he chose Mirka - which probably means that he is in love with her.

I would actually rate Federer though if that was true.

heycal
12-03-2009, 09:12 AM
I don't know what the attraction is towards Woods, I know he has the fame and money but he doesn't exactly have Hollywood good looks, the other member of the Gillete 3 Thierry Henry is the best looking.

Chicks like talent. Never forget that. Tiger is the best at what he does, the top dog, and that alone will bring in the women.

attractive doesn't mean only in a physical way.When you love someone you end up finding them attractive as a person both as character and appearance.

I'm sure Federer finds Mirka attractive in many ways. I'm betting Tiger finds his wife attractive in many ways too. What does this have to do with anything?

I love pizza. Doesn't mean it's the only food I want to eat for the rest of my life.

News flash. Roger already sleeps with 5-6 different women on tour. Mirka looks the other way, cause she loves him and needs the money.

It's possible. Even a regular guy can find a woman who tolerates cheating, and I assume it would be even easier for a rich celeb to find one like that.

Lol. i'm pretty sure she's got a big bank without Federer anyway.


But seriously, Federer is loaded, he could have chosen any girl and he chose Mirka - which probably means that he is in love with her.

I would actually rate Federer though if that was true.

Not sure where Mirka's fortune comes from, but in any case, none of this stuff matters much when it come to cheating. Guys cheat on women they love all the time.

heycal
12-03-2009, 09:36 AM
Tiger Woods makes his money by appealing to the public, that makes him a public figure. Without the public, he's nothing!

He makes SOME of his money appealing to the public. But remember, he's not just an endorser -- he's the world's greatest golfer. He doesn't need to be in the good graces of the public to make money off of his sports skills.

Secondly, you have not demonstrated that the public would refuse to buy his products if he had not issued a public apology -- or that they now will in the wake of his apology.

Thus, kids have a right to know if the hero that they look up to and hope to emulate is really a slimeball that cheats on his wife while she was 7 months pregnant with his child without any remorse at all.

Where do you come up with this stuff? The "kids have a right to know" about the status of his marriage and personal life? Says who?? I would not give my child that message, and I would hope you wouldn't. either.

Do you really think most women around the world are holding him in as high regard as they did a week ago? If so, you are sorely mistaken. Apologies and showing remorse goes a long way with women.

I'm not sure how many women care much about Tiger Woods, and of those who do, I'm not sure how many view him any better now that he has offered an apology for PR reasons.

BreakPoint
12-03-2009, 12:22 PM
He makes SOME of his money appealing to the public. But remember, he's not just an endorser -- he's the world's greatest golfer. He doesn't need to be in the good graces of the public to make money off of his sports skills.

Would professional golf even exist if NOBODY watched? The reason ANY pro sports even exist as an industry is because of the fans. Without fans tuning in on TV or buying tickets, there's no money. Sponsors would not sponsor a sporting event if nobody watched. The public is where pro athletes get all of their money.


Where do you come up with this stuff? The "kids have a right to know" about the status of his marriage and personal life? Says who?? I would not give my child that message, and I would hope you wouldn't. either.
The kids want to know that their hero is not an a-hole. By apologizing, he shows that he's remorseful, and made a mistake in judgment like any human being. This draws empathy and compassion from his fans and helps them to understand. By not saying anything, it was like he was saying to his fans - "Yeah, I cheated on my wife when she was pregnant and can screw anyone I want anytime because I'm a superstar and better than all of you so I can get away with anything I want to. So f***ing what? So p*ss off because I don't give a cr*p what my fans think."

Not good for his image, is it? He would have lost even more fans by not saying anything.


I'm not sure how many women care much about Tiger Woods, and of those who do, I'm not sure how many view him any better now that he has offered an apology for PR reasons.
You must not understand women very well. Apologies count a lot with women. They want to know that you are remorseful, contrite, and regret what you did and that you'll never do it again. That goes a long way with most women.

heycal
12-03-2009, 01:02 PM
Would professional golf even exist if NOBODY watched? The reason ANY pro sports even exist as an industry is because of the fans. Without fans tuning in on TV or buying tickets, there's no money. Sponsors would not sponsor a sporting event if nobody watched.

Wow! You've convinced me. Fans make pro sports possible!

Now try convincing me that people would stop watching Tiger Woods playing golf if he failed to publicly apologize for cheating on his wife.

The kids want to know that their hero is not an a-hole. By apologizing, he shows that he's remorseful, and made a mistake in judgment like any human being. This draws empathy and compassion from his fans and helps them to understand. By not saying anything, it was like he was saying to his fans - "Yeah, I cheated on my wife when she was pregnant and can screw anyone I want anytime because I'm a superstar and better than all of you so I can get away with anything I want to. So f***ing what? So p*ss off because I don't give a cr*p what my fans think."

Not good for his image, is it? He would have lost even more fans by not saying anything.

I don't think the kids who admire Tiger Woods give a damn about his marriage, or are entitled to know a thing about it. He's an athlete, not their parish priest. They like Tiger because he's a great golfer, not because he's williing to apologize publicly for cheating on his wife.


You must not understand women very well. Apologies count a lot with women. They want to know that you are remorseful, contrite, and regret what you did and that you'll never do it again. That goes a long way with most women.

I'm quite certain I have more experience with women than you and know much more about how they think. Those few that actually care about some golfer's personal life aren't going to be very impressed with a PR-fueled apology. They may accept such a thing from their husbands for the sake of the family, but they will feel no such obligation towards a celebrity. In short, a public apology or lack of one will have absolutely no impact on how women view Tiger Woods.

volleynets
12-03-2009, 01:03 PM
First he says to breakpoint,

The diff is we know you hate Federer. I was only trying to contrast how different they are, and to show that Roger is a standup guy.

BP is actually an avid Fedfan, I think you're confusing him with someone else lol.

Yeah, lol, I just realized that a few days ago. I only saw his Pete avatar and naturally assumed the obvious ...which wasn't actually true.

LOL FAIL!! Gustafson is Musefan!!! HAHA

What other people is Musefan?

CCNM
12-03-2009, 01:10 PM
I would hope that Federer wouldn't cheat. That would be a huge disappointment.

heycal
12-03-2009, 01:44 PM
I would hope that Federer wouldn't cheat. That would be a huge disappointment.

If he cheats, I will never watch him play tennis again!

malakas
12-03-2009, 01:49 PM
I'm sure Federer finds Mirka attractive in many ways. I'm betting Tiger finds his wife attractive in many ways too. What does this have to do with anything?

I love pizza. Doesn't mean it's the only food I want to eat for the rest of my life.
.

WOW.An analogy of a woman with a pizza.:neutral:

When I read posts like that in the forum,I tend to believe that posters here are on a diet.Quite possibly severely malnourished.:)

heycal
12-03-2009, 02:06 PM
WOW.An analogy of a woman with a pizza.:neutral:


Not quite. It was an analogy involving having sex with a woman and a pizza.

Why, do you obect to it for some reason?




When I read posts like that in the forum,I tend to believe that posters here are on a diet.Quite possibly severely malnourished.




Well, not the case with me, and particularly lately. Think food court.:)

omniexist
12-03-2009, 02:07 PM
How dare Tiger cheat on his wife! I think he owes all fans and public an apology...maybe throw in some monetary compensation for psychological damages inflicted on our sense of propriety!

TheMusicLover
12-03-2009, 02:30 PM
What other people is Musefan?

FedFan_2009. Hi there, Alex! :)

malakas
12-03-2009, 02:39 PM
Not quite. It was an analogy involving having sex with a woman and a pizza.

Why, do you obect to it for some reason?




Well, not the case with me, and particularly lately. Think food court.:)

nahh.. why in the name of god would I have an objection to having sex with a woman and a pizza?To each their own I say,and if you happen to like hot pizzas with sausage it's your choice!:) Good for you!

All you can eat buffet heycal?Beware maybe you get too fat,and fast food is usually bad for your health and makes you sick and you end up not able to eat anymore.:( :p

LiveForever
12-03-2009, 04:09 PM
First he says to breakpoint,







LOL FAIL!! Gustafson is Musefan!!! HAHA

What other people is Musefan?
ROFL!!!!!! Good pick up.

heycal
12-03-2009, 07:10 PM
We also forget that a lot of these stars are very young and their decisions aren't made with much thought of the consequences. At least I don't think so.

I'd venture a guess and say older men might be more inclined to cheat than younger ones. More jaded...

veroniquem
12-03-2009, 08:25 PM
In Michigan adultery is punished with life sentence!!!!!:shock:
LOL
You're kidding right? :shock:

klementine79
12-03-2009, 09:55 PM
It's not cheating... unless she finds out. :evil:

namelessone
12-03-2009, 10:24 PM
Why would Federer cheat on Mirka? No offense but Mirka doesn't really have supermodel looks and yet Fed stayed with her for so many years. To me that's proof that he loves her. The guy won 50 mil. $ from tennis alone,he could have been a playboy type of guy and then some but he stayed faithful to Mirka(as far as we know),married her and she is now the mother of his kids.

So I have no reason to think Fed would cheat on Mirka because he doesn't seem the playboy type. Yet:twisted:.

BreakPoint
12-03-2009, 10:30 PM
So I have no reason to think Fed would cheat on Mirka because he doesn't seem the playboy type. Yet:twisted:.
Neither does Tiger Woods, but now we know better. :shock:

klementine79
12-03-2009, 10:36 PM
Women choose and select their 'prospects' from the first time they meet a man... In the end, the women say 'yes' or 'no'. They have the power.

Therefore, women commit adultery more frequently than men (from my observsations)... it's just that men are bad liars and we cannot hide our emotions as well as women.

That's why we get caught!!! :evil: :sad:

settolove
12-04-2009, 01:50 AM
Not sure where Mirka's fortune comes from, but in any case, none of this stuff matters much when it come to cheating. Guys cheat on women they love all the time.

Her family is very wealthy - they're in Jewellery I think, and there's the money she earned as a player.

I agree that men cheat on women they love and it doesn't in some of their minds mean they love them any the less.

As for Roger I don't think he'd cheat on her, she is a really integral part of his support system.

jwbarrientos
12-04-2009, 02:12 AM
At least Roger is the only tennis player who can be 100% sure his wife won't cheat on him (even if she wanted).

:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol

BTW if Roger cheats ... Mirka will cut his balls.

malakas
12-04-2009, 03:22 PM
You're kidding right? :shock:

nope I'm not.By law in Michigan you can get to prison for life if you cheat on your husband!!:shock: :?

LiveForever
12-04-2009, 03:24 PM
nope I'm not.By law in Michigan you can get to prison for life if you cheat on your husband!!:shock: :?
That is completely Fcked up if its true.Does the same apply to men? because if not, this is outrageously sexist.

malakas
12-04-2009, 03:33 PM
That is completely Fcked up if its true.Does the same apply to men? because if not, this is outrageously sexist.

of course!!

I don't think it's often applied though,but even if it exists as a relic of old years, it is still ridiculous.

darrinbaker00
12-04-2009, 04:02 PM
He makes SOME of his money appealing to the public. But remember, he's not just an endorser -- he's the world's greatest golfer. He doesn't need to be in the good graces of the public to make money off of his sports skills.
Correction: Tiger makes MOST of his money appealing to the public. For every dollar he makes on the golf course, he makes at least 10 from endorsements. He could have gone the Charles Barkley route and made a commercial claiming NOT to be a role model, but he didn't. He chose to cultivate a certain image which made him tons of money, and now he's dealing with the consequences of not living up to that image. The only person Tiger Woods has to blame for his current predicament is Tiger Woods.

veroniquem
12-04-2009, 04:13 PM
nope I'm not.By law in Michigan you can get to prison for life if you cheat on your husband!!:shock: :?
And with a law like that people in Michigan still get married? :shock:
They're nuts!

heycal
12-04-2009, 08:03 PM
Correction: Tiger makes MOST of his money appealing to the public. For every dollar he makes on the golf course, he makes at least 10 from endorsements. He could have gone the Charles Barkley route and made a commercial claiming NOT to be a role model, but he didn't. He chose to cultivate a certain image which made him tons of money, and now he's dealing with the consequences of not living up to that image. The only person Tiger Woods has to blame for his current predicament is Tiger Woods.

Well, I don't know his golf income to endorsment ratio, but golf is the main thing, and he doesn't "need" endorsements to make money.

But more to my specific point: how is A) him cheating on his wife going to effect that, if at all, and B) How is him apologing for him cheating on his wife going to effect that, if at all? There are crazy people here claiming that people will not watch his golf matches if he doesn't apologize. (To picture how nuts that is for us tennis fans, can anyone here not imagine watching a Federer Wmbledon final just because he cheated on Mirka??)

My main contention here is that he owed no one any explanations and that he should not have said anything publicly since it's no one's business. Hell, him doing so maybe brought MORE attention to his problems.

volleynets
12-04-2009, 08:06 PM
And with a law like that people in Michigan still get married? :shock:
They're nuts!

Are you saying you cheat on your husband?????:shock::shock:

BreakPoint
12-04-2009, 08:32 PM
Well, I don't know his golf income to endorsment ratio, but golf is the main thing, and he doesn't "need" endorsements to make money.

But more to my specific point: how is A) him cheating on his wife going to effect that, if at all, and B) How is him apologing for him cheating on his wife going to effect that, if at all? There are crazy people here claiming that people will not watch his golf matches if he doesn't apologize. (To picture how nuts that is for us tennis fans, can anyone here not imagine watching a Federer Wmbledon final just because he cheated on Mirka??)

My main contention here is that he owed no one any explanations and that he should not have said anything publicly since it's no one's business. Hell, him doing so maybe brought MORE attention to his problems.
Yet, there are lots of people on this board who hate Federer not because of his tennis, but because of how they perceive of him as a person.

Tiger had to say something because his girlfriends were coming out publicly with all kinds of evidence. Was he supposed to stand by and say nothing and let people think the worst of him? Wouldn't that have tarnished his brand even more? People would have lost a lot more respect for him if he didn't show any remorse for what he did than if he did by apologizing.

heycal
12-04-2009, 08:41 PM
Tiger had to say something because his girlfriends were coming out publicly with all kinds of evidence. Was he supposed to stand by and say nothing and let people think the worst of him?

Yes. Ignore it. It's not like apologizing made the problem go away.


People would have lost a lot more respect for him if he didn't show any remorse for what he did than if he did by apologizing.

I'm not sure we have any evidence for this position. People are so used to public figures getting caught in sex scandals and the ensusing obviously PR-inspired apology that it probably means nothing to them anymore, and could conceivably even backfire because they are so sick of these charades.

In this particular case, with no criminal mattter pending and not being an elected official, I would have advised Tiger to not even bother addressing this crap publicly. It's not going really do much to help you, and it's no one's business anyway. Keep your mouth shut, say your private life is nobody's business, and people may actually respect you more.

LiveForever
12-04-2009, 08:43 PM
Are you saying you cheat on your husband?????:shock::shock:
I dont think Veroniquiem is saying that. She makes a good point, do you think it is fair to get thrown in the slammer for your whole life for cheating on your spouse? :shock: No way! Humans make mistakes all the time and adultery is certainly not something that deserves such a punishment.

bluetrain4
12-04-2009, 08:50 PM
I can see it either way, no matter if he gives off an innocent public image.

The cynical sentiment is that "every athlete cheats" or even that "most guys cheat", but there are plenty of faithful people. That said, there are also plenty of cheaters from all walks of life.

So, seriously, if Fed doesn't cheat, I wouldn't be surprised. If he's banging dozens of women and/or has a long-term mistress behind Mirka's back, I wouldn't be surprised either.

veroniquem
12-04-2009, 08:53 PM
Are you saying you cheat on your husband?????:shock::shock:
I'm saying **** happens and it's not worth a life sentence. Are you married? You seem to believe people should be infallible. Well, news flash, most people aren't. They're human. (hey actually the gods in the mythology had complicated love lives too :))

LiveForever
12-04-2009, 08:58 PM
I'm saying **** happens and it's not worth a life sentence. Are you married? You seem to believe people should be infallible. Well, news flash, most people aren't. They're human. (hey actually the gods in the mythology had complicated love lives too :))
agreed. Life sentence?! I cant believe some people dont see the craziness in that.

klementine79
12-04-2009, 11:58 PM
I'm saying **** happens and it's not worth a life sentence. Are you married? You seem to believe people should be infallible. Well, news flash, most people aren't. They're human. (hey actually the gods in the mythology had complicated love lives too :))


No ***** doesn't 'happen'- alcohol and lack of communication are mostly to blame.

When people commit adultery, 99.9999% of the time they are in a relationship where communication has broken-down and they just stopped talking and caring about eachother. After a couple of drinks, they find themselves more 'proned' to commit adultery as their judgment and self-control has been weakened.

I have never known of anyone who is married with a family that has not regreted and felt absolute guilt for cheating on their spouse-- it is a terrible position to be in. The key here is 'family'-- if you are married without children, the situation is completely different. Children and marriage = sacrifices and lack of 'free-will'.

In an ideal situation, your marriage, life and decisions should be thought of in the larger context of providing a stable and nurturing environment for the development and progression of your children.

Don't forget, we live in a society where one has to pay someone to listen to your problems (therapy, marriage-counciling). We have lost our patience and communication-skills (how to express ourselves without degradation or malicious judgment), in general.

Let's not make excuses and say, '**** happens'-- because that is not a justification for infidelity.

malakas
12-05-2009, 12:02 AM
whatever happens-whether it's alcohol,stupidness,lack of communication..I don't think any sane person believes it should be punishable with life in jail.

malakas
12-05-2009, 12:10 AM
btw κλεμεντινε ασχετο αλλα επειδη δε θα ξερεις,να σου πω να προσεχεις σημερα κ αυριο γιατι θα γινει της κακομοιρας στην αθηνα.ειδικα αν μενεις προς εξαρχεια.

klementine79
12-05-2009, 12:13 AM
^ Let me tell you-- with the experience of my father talking here.

If you commit infedelity and have children-- it is a life sentence without prison walls.

You will lose the respect of your spouse, children and family-- and spend your time, money and energy to regain all you have lost through-out the years. In the end you will have gained little and lost everything.

Dying alone-- even with your new 'wife' or 'husband' by your side-- even within the presence of company-- one can still be 'alone'-- that is a living hell and personal life sentence.

Now to brighten things-up.. Smiley Face :)

klementine79
12-05-2009, 12:15 AM
btw κλεμεντινε ασχετο αλλα επειδη δε θα ξερεις,να σου πω να προσεχεις σημερα κ αυριο γιατι θα γινει της κακομοιρας στην αθηνα.ειδικα αν μενεις προς εξαρχεια.

To kserw... hmouna edw persi. Eixana kapsi tin a8ina yia mia ebdomada. Krima yia to paidi.. alla krima yia 'ftous pou exasan ta magazia tous.

Paralogo xwra pou menoumai.... merikes fores 8elw na paratisw ta panta kai na girisw stin ameriki.

malakas
12-05-2009, 12:25 AM
^ Let me tell you-- with the experience of my father talking here.

If you commit infedelity and have children-- it is a life sentence without prison walls.

You will lose the respect of your spouse, children and family-- and spend your time, money and energy to regain all you have lost through-out the years. In the end you will have gained little and lost everything.

Dying alone-- even with your new 'wife' or 'husband' by your side-- even within the presence of company-- one can still be 'alone'-- that is a living hell and personal life sentence.

Now to brighten things-up.. Smiley Face :)

oh wow..well divorce happens and even infidelity can be forgiven with love.Everything can be forgiven...I'm sorry you had such a bad experience though .:(

To kserw... hmouna edw persi. Eixana kapsi tin a8ina yia mia ebdomada. Krima yia to paidi.. alla krima yia 'ftous pou exasan ta magazia tous.

Paralogo xwra pou menoumai.... merikes fores 8elw na paratisw ta panta kai na girisw stin ameriki.

κοιτα..να σου πω την αληθεια στην αρχη οταν εγινε..ειχα γινει κ γω πυρ κ μανια..γενικα ολη η χωρα..αλλα μετα αυτοι οι μαλακες το παρακαναν..οπως παντα αλλωστε.Μια δικαιολογια εψαχναν για να τα κανουν ρημαδιο..:/ αλλα ναι γενικα δεν συμπαθουμε εδω περα τοσο την αστυνομια οπως στην αμερικη και την βια απο την αστυνομια.Ρε συ στην αμερικη κανουν τειζερ σε υποπτους και το θεωρουν φυσιολογικο!!!ημαρτον!

κι εγω αθηνα ειμαι τωρα και θελω να φυγω την κυριακη και να δουμε αν θα μπορεσω!:( γαμωτο.

klementine79
12-05-2009, 12:33 AM
oh wow..well divorce happens and even infidelity can be forgiven with love.Everything can be forgiven...I'm sorry you had such a bad experience though .:(


My situation is unique-- not just divorce-- but seperation from parents. Father in Greece-- Mother,Brother,Uncle and I moved to the States. I had not spoken with my father for 20years... (6-26y.o.). My father did not just commit infidelity and drink-- he was also an abuser.

And I agree-- Actions and words can be forgiven-- but never forgotten-- that is the thorn on the rose.

malakas
12-05-2009, 01:01 AM
My situation is unique-- not just divorce-- but seperation from parents. Father in Greece-- Mother,Brother,Uncle and I moved to the States. I had not spoken with my father for 20years... (6-26y.o.). My father did not just commit infidelity and drink-- he was also an abuser.

And I agree-- Actions and words can be forgiven-- but never forgotten-- that is the thorn on the rose.

that's horrible.I'm truly sorry to hear it.:( :( Toulaxiston megalwsate makria apo tetoion anthrwpo!pistevw oti telika ta pragmata vgikan kalytera gia sas....:/

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thetheorist
12-05-2009, 03:25 AM
Of course we can never know for sure, but from what we've seen so far, it's very very unlikely.

stanfordtennis alum
12-05-2009, 09:31 PM
dont see it happening one bit...

Tennis_Monk
12-05-2009, 09:49 PM
No one can tell for certain as in life, nothing is certain. As far as my book goes, Federer can be called many names (GOAT, crier, etc) but he isnt a wife cheater.