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TheNatural
12-06-2009, 07:42 AM
February 8th. Who will win? :)

jones101
12-06-2009, 07:47 AM
Sampras via Verdasco choke.

Polaris
12-06-2009, 07:49 AM
Febuary 8th. Who will win? :)
Those who stand to gain financially from the match.

Cantankersore
12-06-2009, 07:59 AM
This will be interesting. A poor man's Sampras vs. a poor man's Nadal.

groundbreaker
12-06-2009, 08:03 AM
I can't wait to watch this match!:)

Verdasco's my favorite player, but I think Sampras will get him in 3 sets.

I also think there's other players at this exhibition like Roddick, Hewitt, Fish, Dent, Querrey, and Haas.

Fedace
12-06-2009, 08:13 AM
I can't wait to watch this match!:)

Verdasco's my favorite player, but I think Sampras will get him in 3 sets.

I also think there's other players at this exhibition like Roddick, Hewitt, Fish, Dent, Querrey, and Haas.

Sorry but it is Fixed.

Anaconda
12-06-2009, 08:41 AM
This will be interesting. A poor man's Sampras vs. a poor man's Nadal.

This. Although Verdasco could help himself by not choking away big matches.

JoshDragon
12-06-2009, 08:43 AM
I think Verdasco will win. Or at least he should win.

CHOcobo
12-06-2009, 08:49 AM
what channel?

President of Serve/Volley
12-06-2009, 08:50 AM
Verdasco only because he's in the tennis prime right now.

Chadwixx
12-06-2009, 08:58 AM
One of them will win in a third set tiebreaker. Sampras fans will think he can still play on the tour.

TMF
12-06-2009, 09:02 AM
Who ever win it doesn't matter b/c it's exo. They are out there to entertain the fans rather than being too serious.

Carsomyr
12-06-2009, 09:06 AM
I'd like to see Nadal/Sampras before either of them get too old.

Jchurch
12-06-2009, 09:08 AM
Verdasco. I think in their primes it would have been Sampras without a doubt, but Verdasco will probably just hammer away at Sampras' back hand.

stapler
12-06-2009, 09:19 AM
If they were going to play seriously, I don't think Sampras would stand a chance. However, since it's going to be an exhibition, they are probably more going to be looking to entertain the crowd, and I don't know where it's being played, but if it's in America, possibly fix it so Sampras wins it.

President of Serve/Volley
12-06-2009, 09:23 AM
If they were going to play seriously, I don't think Sampras would stand a chance. However, since it's going to be an exhibition, they are probably more going to be looking to entertain the crowd, and I don't know where it's being played, but if it's in America, possibly fix it so Sampras wins it.



Sampras would have a chance if the courts were lightining quick... But it's all moot anyway.

TMF
12-06-2009, 09:29 AM
Sampras would have a chance if the courts were lightining quick... But it's all moot anyway.

Sampras has a chance b/c it's exo. Plus, playing in San Jose will likely be fix for him to win.

kishnabe
12-06-2009, 11:28 AM
verdasco will get to match point and then choke, which sampras capitalizes and win in 3 sets.

jazzyfunkybluesy
12-06-2009, 12:59 PM
Sorry but it is Fixed.

You know I thought Fed allowed Sampras to win a set or two to make things interesting for the fans. You may be right.

JoelDali
12-06-2009, 01:17 PM
Fedace in 3.

35ft6
12-06-2009, 02:59 PM
It's an exhibition. Verdasco might let Sampras win. At the very least, he'll allow it to be very close. Watch for Verdasco to hit balls into the stands when he's up by too much.

bruce38
12-06-2009, 03:05 PM
Depends, if Verdasco really tries, then he'd clean Pete's clock.

raisethe3
12-06-2009, 03:45 PM
Pete will get this one.

prosealster
12-06-2009, 06:32 PM
it's an exo...players r there to entertain....not to win...i can bet my house that it will go 3 sets

JoelDali
12-06-2009, 06:43 PM
Any more info on this? Links etc?

Thanks.

jazzyfunkybluesy
12-06-2009, 06:44 PM
Sampras will destroy.

TheNatural
12-07-2009, 08:13 AM
Now that you mention it, that's exactly what he did when he was winning v Fed in the YEC. He's done it a few times now v Fed, it's more than a bit suspect. :)

It's an exhibition. Verdasco might let Sampras win. At the very least, he'll allow it to be very close. Watch for Verdasco to hit balls into the stands when he's up by too much.

Cesc Fabregas
12-07-2009, 11:35 AM
Pete will win, Verdasco can't handle big servers. He trys to take huge swings at 130+ bombs and ends up miss timing the ball into the stands. Plus if Fernando gets into the lead he will probably choke.

anointedone
12-07-2009, 12:47 PM
Pete will win, Verdasco can't handle big servers. He trys to take huge swings at 130+ bombs and ends up miss timing the ball into the stands. Plus if Fernando gets into the lead he will probably choke.

I honestly find he is a bit of a stupid player on court, in addition to being mentally weak. He is talented and fun to watch though.

Chadwixx
12-07-2009, 12:57 PM
Verdasco can't handle big servers.

Lucky for verdasco, pete isnt a big server by todays standards :)

I just hope verdasco can find a way to serve to pete's forehand. Otherwise its going to be a very ugly match.

aphex
12-07-2009, 01:15 PM
If they were going to play seriously, I don't think Sampras would stand a chance. However, since it's going to be an exhibition, they are probably more going to be looking to entertain the crowd, and I don't know where it's being played, but if it's in America, possibly fix it so Sampras wins it.

shhhhhhh....don't let thenatural and cesc know...they actually still believe sampras beat federer for real...

TMF
12-07-2009, 01:17 PM
Before the match get started, they will secretly tell Fernando to keep it close as possible.

35ft6
12-07-2009, 01:21 PM
It's an exhibition, people. We might as well talk about who will win between Will Farrell and Agassi versus Mardy Fish and Jon Lovitz.

JoshDragon
12-07-2009, 01:22 PM
I honestly find he is a bit of a stupid player on court, in addition to being mentally weak. He is talented and fun to watch though.

I don't know about stupid but he has made some bad decisions, I saw his match against Djokovic at the US Open and there's no reason why he couldn't have won. Nole, played horribly in the first set and was still able to take it from Verdasco.

TheMagicianOfPrecision
12-07-2009, 01:22 PM
I cant believe people are serious about Pete winning this
If both goes 100% it would be 6-3,6-2 if its a relatively fast court.
Oh to Verdasco i might add

pennc94
12-07-2009, 01:23 PM
Will it be televised?

Anyway, Verdasco will win the full head of hair contest.

mcshift
12-07-2009, 01:25 PM
gonna say verdasco...anyone know what channel it will be on?

TheMagicianOfPrecision
12-07-2009, 01:26 PM
Verdasco was really close to beating Federer 3 weeks ago for Gods sake!! :shock:

Chadwixx
12-07-2009, 01:34 PM
Verdasco isnt there to win the match, he is there to put on a good show and let pete win.

Carsomyr
12-07-2009, 01:55 PM
I cant believe people are serious about Pete winning this
If both goes 100% it would be 6-3,6-2 if its a relatively fast court.
Oh to Verdasco i might add

But that has a high likelihood of not happening - who in America wants to see one of their greatest champions go out and get smoked? Of course, Verdasco will probably win because if he doesn't some idiotic columnist will throw into question the state of the game.

quest01
12-07-2009, 02:17 PM
Verdasco isnt there to win the match, he is there to put on a good show and let pete win.

lol I doubt that. If Pete serves and volleys all day then he's going to have some problems, if Verdasco plays his best he should win comfortably in straight sets. I don't remember the court speed of San Jose, depending on the court speed it will favor one player over the other.

35ft6
12-07-2009, 05:03 PM
^ No chance of Verdasco playing his best. Seriously, Sampras would be the first to say that an exhibition doesn't make you play your best tennis. Pete was a guy who continuously said that only the Slams really mattered. It's the off season, Verdasco gets paid the same win or lose, there are no ranking points or history at stake, nobody is really trying. If they televise the match, watch how much even Pete will be joking around then ask yourself if Pete used to joke with the crowd in his playing days. See how much Verdasco jokes around, laughs, and applauds Pete. It's a hit and giggle. They're going to make sure it's close.

surfvland
12-09-2009, 11:14 PM
Verdasco. in straights

AAAA
12-10-2009, 06:10 AM
Sour grapes from Sampras. He's retired but wants his fans to talk up his standing with Fed so he plays these exhibitions to prove he is above Fed's level.

He could play on the Champions tour with the rest like Pioline, Courier, Mac, Leconte but didn't he lose some of those matches?

P_Agony
12-10-2009, 06:19 AM
Verdasco should win this, which is probably why he won't. Sampras beats mental midget in 3.

Ron Insana
12-18-2009, 05:33 PM
I really want to see this match. I love watching Pete post retirement going up against the current crop. He still looks great and hits serves like nobody else can. Where can I order this match and all his previous post-retirement matches cause it probably won't be shown where I live?

Driver's Seat
12-18-2009, 08:44 PM
Sampras could definitely take this under the right playing conditions. If its a surface like Macau he could overwhelm Verdasco pretty easy with his attack. And we know what kind of a headcase Verdasco is as well

Driver's Seat
12-18-2009, 08:46 PM
Verdasco was really close to beating Federer 3 weeks ago for Gods sake!! :shock:

Yea well. Sampras did alright for himself even against Fed in those exos. And being that they were only exos, they still showed Pete has some gas left in the tank and his serve is still a force to be reckon with even though hes near 40 years old

woodrow1029
12-18-2009, 09:26 PM
I can't wait to watch this match!:)

Verdasco's my favorite player, but I think Sampras will get him in 3 sets.

I also think there's other players at this exhibition like Roddick, Hewitt, Fish, Dent, Querrey, and Haas.

The Sampras v. Verdasco match is the only exhibition match. The rest is the ATP event. It's in San Jose.

World Beater
12-18-2009, 09:33 PM
lol. pete has no chance fast or slow if verdasco goes out at 100%.

onehandbh
12-18-2009, 10:05 PM
Even from watching the exos, you can see that pete's movement isn't
that great. I don't think there's any way he can compete any more.

hyperwarrior
12-18-2009, 11:26 PM
After Verdasco, I want to see

Sampras VS Nadal

Sampras VS Djokovic

Sampras VS Del Potro

Sampras VS Murray

Sampras VS Tsonga

etc etc...

Marius_Hancu
02-07-2010, 01:17 PM
I wonder if fromsport.com will show it tomorrow:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2010/424/op.pdf

10PM, EST

petetheileet
02-07-2010, 03:49 PM
meh pete couldnt compete any more, cant move anywhere near as well as the current guys,

he was struggling to move well towards the end of his career let alone years after it has ended

coloskier
02-08-2010, 08:39 AM
Verdasco is the equivalent of Ivanisevic without a serve.

LameTennisPlayer
02-08-2010, 08:54 AM
Verdasco only because he's in the tennis prime right now.

did u forget about Sampras beating Fed in an exo in Macau i think 2007?

LameTennisPlayer
02-08-2010, 08:56 AM
Verdasco is the equivalent of Ivanisevic without a serve.

ummmm lol..... so no serve, no groundstrokes and a headcase....?

Markov
02-08-2010, 09:27 AM
Of course Verdasco would win at least 6-2 6-1 if it was a match to be taken seriously, but I think they have already arranged the outcome of the match. Probably something like 6-4 6-7 7-6, but maybe for Verdasco, since Sampras' level has dropped so much it could look ridiculous for the crowd on the stadium if Sampras actually "beat" Verdasco.

LameTennisPlayer
02-08-2010, 09:43 AM
come on..... sampras all the way

David L
02-08-2010, 09:52 AM
It's an exhibition, so you never quite know how it's going to be played. Verdasco would win comfortably if played like a normal tour match, but in these circumstances anything could happen.

valiant
02-08-2010, 09:52 AM
So who won ??

siowmotion
02-08-2010, 02:10 PM
Anyone have a stream for this match? And what time does this match start in California time?

KAndersonFan
02-08-2010, 02:43 PM
So who won ??

...the Bears.

VamosSR
02-08-2010, 03:18 PM
tourney starts at 7PM San Jose, California time.. about 3 hours from now..

siowmotion
02-08-2010, 05:27 PM
Still can't find any steams, anyone have any?

Fedace
02-08-2010, 05:44 PM
Is the Betfair or bet 365 covering this event ?? Lots of people are betting on Verdasco to win.

DownTheLine
02-08-2010, 05:46 PM
Verdasco all the way.

4sound
02-08-2010, 06:14 PM
I saw Sampras exo vs T Haas a couple of years ago. It was a joke. Haas didn't really play and hit half pace groundies so Pete could get to the ball.

Don't expect too much vs Verdasco.

darthpwner
02-08-2010, 07:12 PM
ummmm lol..... so no serve, no groundstrokes and a headcase....?

You underrate Ivanisevic's groundstrokes, but that's a bad comparison. Verdasco is like Nadal with a bigger serve but a headcase.

SuperDuy
02-08-2010, 07:51 PM
verdasco won , dang it

AJK1
02-08-2010, 08:34 PM
One of them will win in a third set tiebreaker. Sampras fans will think he can still play on the tour.


Yeah, he would still make the final at wimby hehe!!

Rhino
02-08-2010, 08:52 PM
verdasco won , dang it

What was the score?

VGP
02-08-2010, 08:54 PM
6-3, 7-6(2) (http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ap-samprasexhibition&prov=ap&type=lgns)

David L
02-08-2010, 10:48 PM
Sampras loses exhibition to Verdasco

By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer

SAN JOSE, California (AP)—Former No. 1 Pete Sampras showed glimpses of his dominating best against a top player 12 years his junior in the second set of his 6-3, 7-6 (2) exhibition loss to Spain’s Fernando Verdasco on Monday at the SAP Open.

“It was a pretty rough night,” Sampras said. “I never really felt I could get into his service games. Playing defense is harder for me today. That’s something I used to do a pretty good job at. It’s harder to move.”

Sampras received a rousing standing ovation once it was over. He waved and hit three balls into the crowd before telling everybody he “felt a little old” out there.

It was first exhibition match for the 14-time Grand Slam champion since he beat longtime American rival Andre Agassi 3-6, 6-3, 10-8, decided on a match tiebreak at Macau in late October.

The 38-year-old Sampras, who retired in 2003 after a 15-year career, acknowledges he’s no longer his sure, sharp self—and it’s tougher to cover the court. His left calf caused him trouble in the first set.

He plays about a half-dozen exhibition events a year and is using a bigger racket these days to try to keep up with the hard-hitting youngsters on tour now — like the overpowering Verdasco who moved up a spot to No. 11 in this week’s ATP rankings.

Sampras nailed back-to-back aces clocked and 127 and 129 mph (204 and 208 kph) in the first game of the second set and a big first serve that Verdasco couldn’t return to capture that game. Sampras’ impressive scoop volley for a winner four games later drew a thumbs-up from Verdasco across the net.

Yet the very next game, Sampras sent a forehand long and shook his head and looked at his racket. When the chair umpire called another forehand by Sampras long on the next point and then corrected it, Sampras held his arms in the air and twirled his racket.

“I felt a little old,” Sampras said. “I tried. At times it wasn’t all that competitive.”

Sampras also acknowledged he’d spoken on the phone with Agassi regarding comments in Agassi’s autobiography, “Open.”

Sampras had said last month he was surprised and disappointed by Agassi’s “shots” at Sampras in the book and would like to meet “man to man” to discuss it.

“He talked and I listened. It was positive, it was fine, it was cordial,” Sampras said. “Listen, it’s not a big deal. I still like the guy.”

Sampras joked around with Verdasco during a tournament VIP kickoff banquet about an hour before they began.

“Just show some respect,” Sampras said to Verdasco with a grin. “I’m going to have to get to the net as much as I can—none of those long baseline exchanges. I think I can hold my own serving and volleying. Tonight I have no choice but to come in ‘til the cows come home. If he returns well and passes well, it could be a quick night.”

Verdasco, who is seeded No. 2 in this tournament and making his Bay Area debut, kept Sampras off balance with his big groundstrokes and booming serve.

“He’s tough. He’s the real deal. He could win a major,” Sampras said.

Top-seeded and seventh-ranked Andy Roddick opens play here Wednesday, as does Verdasco.

“The match helped me for sure,” said Verdasco, who had just arrived in Northern California earlier Monday.

Sampras played an exhibition at San Jose for the third straight year. He won this event in 1996 and 1997.

Sampras said he’s interested in working for the USTA with young tennis players in the Los Angeles area, but wants to be compensated.

“I’m available for services,” he said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ap-samprasexhibition&prov=ap&type=lgns

dropshot winner
02-08-2010, 10:51 PM
Verdasco the real deal? Haven't we all heard that one before a year ago :D.

davey25
02-09-2010, 12:54 AM
The retired Sampras does not have an official ATP ranking in the top 10 so there was no reason for Verdasco to choke. The next time he plays an opponent with an ATP ranking currently in the top 10 (or even top 20) he is sure to be back to the choking dog he truly is. :)

P_Agony
02-09-2010, 01:12 AM
I wonder if Verdasco would even win a set from a prime Sampras. I think not, except maybe on clay.

dropshot winner
02-09-2010, 02:22 AM
I wonder if Verdasco would even win a set from a prime Sampras. I think not, except maybe on clay.

Worse players have won sets against Sampras.

Verdasco could probably even beat Sampras on slower hardcourts, maybe once one out of 10 matches.

woodrow1029
02-09-2010, 06:41 AM
Yet the very next game, Sampras sent a forehand long and shook his head and looked at his racket. When the chair umpire called another forehand by Sampras long on the next point and then corrected it, Sampras held his arms in the air and twirled his racket.


Actually the base line umpire called the ball long, and the chair umpire, (me), corrected it.

drakulie
02-09-2010, 06:47 AM
^^woodrow dominating from the chair!!!!

abmk
02-09-2010, 06:53 AM
Verdasco is the equivalent of Ivanisevic without a serve.

seriously ?????? goran's FH was nowhere as good as verdasco's .....anyways they have a good rivalry in the headcase dept !

dropshot winner
02-09-2010, 07:01 AM
seriously ?????? goran's FH was nowhere as good as verdasco's .....anyways they have a good rivalry in the headcase dept !

True, both have ended lots of matches with double faults, but Ivanisevic had a lot more and more entertaining tantrums.

davey25
02-09-2010, 07:48 AM
I wonder if Verdasco would even win a set from a prime Sampras. I think not, except maybe on clay.

He would probably do as well as he does vs Federer and Nadal today. Which is win a set every 2 out of every 10 matches or so. The guy is just not top 10 calibre, as I said before the Aussie Open.

Enlightened Coelacanth
02-09-2010, 07:56 AM
I had tickets but couldn't attend due to a tennis injury. The irony increases the pain I feel. I see that being there would have only increased that pain even more, however.

jefferson
02-09-2010, 08:16 AM
Actually the base line umpire called the ball long, and the chair umpire, (me), corrected it.

Nice!! Always good to get a first hand account of events.

leonidas1982
02-09-2010, 01:11 PM
It seems Sampras' frame is without a Wilson logo. That may explain why Sampras has been removed from the list of of Wilson sponsored players. http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/WilsonRacquets.html

35ft6
02-09-2010, 02:04 PM
It's an exhibition. Verdasco might let Sampras win. At the very least, he'll allow it to be very close. Watch for Verdasco to hit balls into the stands when he's up by too much.I'm surprised he didn't let Sampras win the second set. That's usually exhibition policy, to split sets.

djokovicgonzalez2010
02-09-2010, 02:07 PM
How many DFS were there?

decades
02-09-2010, 02:10 PM
Is this match going to decide who gets to be Mr. January in the Armani underwear calendar?

HunterST
02-09-2010, 02:44 PM
I'm surprised he didn't let Sampras win the second set. That's usually exhibition policy, to split sets.

I always kind of suspected that as well. Especially in the Federer-Sampras exhibitions. I'd be surprised to see someone as competitive and proud as sampras to want a guy to let him win (even a set) though.

David L
02-09-2010, 03:44 PM
I'm surprised he didn't let Sampras win the second set. That's usually exhibition policy, to split sets.
Well, he has a whole tournament to play after this match. Does not want to stay out there longer than necessary.

NonP
02-09-2010, 04:29 PM
According to an acquaintance of mine who attended the exhibition match, Verdasco took it way too seriously, and age has caught up with Sampras' legs. Not surprised at all about the Verdasco part. Fits his public persona to a tee. :)

davey25
02-09-2010, 04:44 PM
According to an acquaintance of mine who attended the exhibition match, Verdasco took it way too seriously, and age has caught up with Sampras' legs. Not surprised at all about the Verdasco part. Fits his public persona to a tee. :)

I think he is shy and not much fun unless it is someone he knows well and feels comfortable with like Rafa and the other Spanish guy. His personality also carries into some of his tightness and nerves in the heat of competition too IMO.

NonP
02-09-2010, 05:18 PM
I think he is shy and not much fun unless it is someone he knows well and feels comfortable with like Rafa and the other Spanish guy.

Yeah, that's my impression, too.

His personality also carries into some of his tightness and nerves in the heat of competition too IMO.

Agreed again. I believe someone else on this thread compared him to Goran. That's only superficially valid. Goran was more like a volcano at a scientific fair, Verdasco is like a reticent Terry Malloy bemoaning his fate to remain classless.

jazzyfunkybluesy
02-09-2010, 05:21 PM
Man I was hoping to see that match. Maybe somebody will post it on youtube.