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Mig1NC
12-06-2009, 09:44 AM
I never break strings so am thinking about going thin. What is the best true 18 out there?

I noticed that some 18s are not really 18 gauge.

Since I never break them money would not be a factor.

ci2ca
12-06-2009, 10:03 AM
You would have to be more specific. 18 gauge of what type of string? Poly, multi, synthetic gut, natural gut, etc.

rich s
12-06-2009, 11:12 AM
I never break strings so am thinking about going thin. What is the best true 18 out there?

I noticed that some 18s are not really 18 gauge.

Since I never break them money would not be a factor.

I'm not a big string breaker either.......you didn't mention poly, syn, NG, etc....so.... my personal favorite 18 is Gamma Syn Gut 18.

It feels good and plays nicely and maintains tension very well..... I play it in one of my MG Rad OS's.

lawlitssoo1n
12-06-2009, 11:32 AM
there are a number of 18g strings and are all different by companies, but off by a few digits, for example, some 18g are 1.18 or 1.20

Some 18g strings that are good
18g ashaway kevlar
18g MSV hex
BIG ACE MICRO (think it's either 18 or thinneR)
18G luxilon ace

Cfidave
12-06-2009, 11:39 AM
My favorite go to 18ga is Pro Supex Blue Gear. Best power, spin, feel combination of all the polys I have tried. My second favorite is Babolat Pro Hurricane 18ga. I found this one to be close to Blue Gear, but much softer feeling. I hybrid both of these with Pro Supex spiral flex synthetic gut.

Lex
12-06-2009, 01:28 PM
Alpha Gut 2000 18g plays pretty nice too!

meowmix
12-06-2009, 01:51 PM
Klip Legend 18 (but it's really just a 1.20).

jazzyfunkybluesy
12-06-2009, 02:26 PM
there are a number of 18g strings and are all different by companies, but off by a few digits, for example, some 18g are 1.18 or 1.20

Some 18g strings that are good
18g ashaway kevlar
18g MSV hex
BIG ACE MICRO (think it's either 18 or thinneR)
18G luxilon ace

I second Pro Supex Big Ace Micro. It is a 1.15mm profile.

Mig1NC
12-06-2009, 06:46 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys.

Sorry for the brevity of my first post, I typed it on my mobile phone.

One of the main factors I am looking for is that it should have very good tension maintenance.

Becuase I never break strings I tend to only restring once every six months (I play once a week, but that may be picking up next spring or summer).

But that need is tempered by my two main performance needs, spin generation and control.

I was looking at Blue Gear recently, is it truly an 18g string? Or is it really a 17L?

Also, if I can ask one more question, I have been reading in some other threads that going from a 16 to a 17 or thinner string can change the weight. Does anybody know how much going from a 16 to a true 18 might change the weight and balance? I'm guessing 0.1 oz, but that's purely a guess.

teppeiahn1
12-06-2009, 06:53 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys.

Sorry for the brevity of my first post, I typed it on my mobile phone.

One of the main factors I am looking for is that it should have very good tension maintenance.

Becuase I never break strings I tend to only restring once every six months (I play once a week, but that may be picking up next spring or summer).

But that need is tempered by my two main performance needs, spin generation and control.

I was looking at Blue Gear recently, is it truly an 18g string? Or is it really a 17L?

Also, if I can ask one more question, I have been reading in some other threads that going from a 16 to a 17 or thinner string can change the weight. Does anybody know how much going from a 16 to a true 18 might change the weight and balance? I'm guessing 0.1 oz, but that's purely a guess.

the weight diffeence between Guage 16 and 18 will not change the balance.
if your looking for controlled oriented string with good tention, i would sudgest big ace.

but remember, dont over think abotu strings too much because it 90 percent technique for creating spin potential. 5 percent rauet and 5 percent strings.

meowmix
12-06-2009, 07:12 PM
The weight don't change much, but it'll change a bit. Weight changes more when you shift from synthetics to gut though, it shifts the balance point forward a bit. Just shifted from MSV Hex 1.18 to Avenger/Global Gut, and the sw's definately gone up by about 3-5 pts.

xFullCourtTenniSx
12-06-2009, 07:33 PM
The weight don't change much, but it'll change a bit. Weight changes more when you shift from synthetics to gut though, it shifts the balance point forward a bit. Just shifted from MSV Hex 1.18 to Avenger/Global Gut, and the sw's definately gone up by about 3-5 pts.

Yeah... I remember stringing up my first set of gut, and holding the racket. It felt so much heavier. I thought I was crazy, then I put it on the scale and saw the weight go up by 2 grams. I let out a sigh of relief as I just proved my sanity and confirmed my sensitivity to equipment and deluded myself that such sensitivity made me a great player. :twisted:

OHBH
12-06-2009, 08:17 PM
Alpha Gut 2000 18g plays pretty nice too!


Alpha Gut 2000 18g is definately the best value of any string. It lasts suprising long becausde of the coating. It has less power than most syn guts but tons of control. Easy on the arm as well. But if you want more playability, Technifibre NRG2 is the best.

tlm
12-06-2009, 09:04 PM
Wilson nxt tour.

wrxtotoro
12-06-2009, 09:34 PM
Head synthetic gut pps 18G is not bad for the price of 3.95 per set... I used it and it's ok... not as good as klip legend 18g but heck, $4 compare with $26, I'd rather restring it every week...

Cfidave
12-07-2009, 08:26 AM
Blue Gear is listed at 1.19, so I would say that makes it a true 18ga. I also found BG to maintain tension very well. Also, unlike some polys, BG seems to play well right from the start, doesn't seem to need a " break in".

retlod
12-07-2009, 09:19 AM
...is it truly an 18g string? Or is it really a 17L?

Worry less about the gauge of a string and pay more attention to the cross sectional diameter. Gauge just specifies a range of diameters, and those ranges can overlap between manufacturers.

Examples:

1. Babolat PHT 17 is the same diameter as Luxilon BB Alu Power 16L.
2. Tecnifibre Red Code 18 is 1.20mm, whereas Luxilon TiMo 17L is thinner at 1.17mm.
3. 18ga TiMo is 1.10mm, whereas 18ga Red Code is 1.20mm.

Fedace
12-07-2009, 01:09 PM
18L gauge Proline 2 is very good. but Have you guys noticed that you lose some control when you switch to 18 G string ??? and what do you think about power ?

number.432
12-07-2009, 01:23 PM
Worry less about the gauge of a string and pay more attention to the cross sectional diameter. Gauge just specifies a range of diameters, and those ranges can overlap between manufacturers.

Examples:

1. Babolat PHT 17 is the same diameter as Luxilon BB Alu Power 16L.
2. Tecnifibre Red Code 18 is 1.20mm, whereas Luxilon TiMo 17L is thinner at 1.17mm.
3. 18ga TiMo is 1.10mm, whereas 18ga Red Code is 1.20mm.


Good point!

Since the OP mention that he's not a string breaker. Gosen OG micro 18 is a good one to try. Although I would think it would loose tension quite quickly if used in a full bed.

number.432
12-07-2009, 01:25 PM
18L gauge Proline 2 is very good. but Have you guys noticed that you lose some control when you switch to 18 G string ??? and what do you think about power ?


I don't feel too much loss of control while switching from Legend 16 to 17. What was obvious to me was a lot more bites I got which came with a whole lot more string movements.

Not too much added power though.

Fedace
12-07-2009, 01:31 PM
I don't feel too much loss of control while switching from Legend 16 to 17. What was obvious to me was a lot more bites I got which came with a whole lot more string movements.

Not too much added power though.

Yes, 16 to 17 isn't that bad. but 17 to 18 seems to make a huge difference. Lots more trampoline effect with 18 gauge. and you actually lose power when you go to 18 gauge. very strange...

number.432
12-07-2009, 01:34 PM
Yes, 16 to 17 isn't that bad. but 17 to 18 seems to make a huge difference. Lots more trampoline effect with 18 gauge. and you actually lose power when you go to 18 gauge. very strange...

REALLY?

That's strange. You are talking about going from 17 to 18 with PL 2? Is it same tension, same frame, on same surface?

I don't use poly main any more but do think that the same principal should apply, right?

Fedace
12-07-2009, 01:37 PM
REALLY?

That's strange. You are talking about going from 17 to 18 with PL 2? Is it same tension, same frame, on same surface?

I don't use poly main any more but do think that the same principal should apply, right?

Yes, same with X-1 biphase too. i lose control with 18 gauge while 17 gives me more control but less feel. and less power with 18 guage--very odd.

Mig1NC
12-10-2009, 10:22 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys.

Based partially on the interesting notes from Fedace I think I am going to try going with a hybrid instead. Using 18g for crosses and 17g for mains.

My first try with an 18g string will probably be the "technifibre ultimate" example on the TW hybrid string page:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/orderhybrid.html

I'm going to try X-1 Biphase 17g in the mains and NRG2 18g in the crosses.

amorco
12-10-2009, 11:32 AM
I never break strings so am thinking about going thin. What is the best true 18 out there?

I noticed that some 18s are not really 18 gauge.

Since I never break them money would not be a factor.


MSV Hex 18L is probably the best in playability, durability, and price. You should try it, you will see the difference from the rest of all polys.

scotus
12-10-2009, 11:35 AM
MSV Hex 18L is probably the best in playability, durability, and price. You should try it, you will see the difference from the rest of all polys.

Not my cup of tea. Very cheap, plastic-like feel.

I would take Big Ace Micro over MSV Hex 18L in a heartbeat.

Pro_Tour_630
12-10-2009, 11:53 AM
Yes, 16 to 17 isn't that bad. but 17 to 18 seems to make a huge difference. Lots more trampoline effect with 18 gauge. and you actually lose power when you go to 18 gauge. very strange...
this is way too general for obvious reason, please use mm:confused:

Pro_Tour_630
12-10-2009, 11:57 AM
Yes, same with X-1 biphase too. i lose control with 18 gauge while 17 gives me more control but less feel. and less power with 18 guage--very odd.

directional control is easier to produce with a thicker string

tribunal4555
12-10-2009, 04:54 PM
I like Golden Set Poly and Golden Set Hex Poly in 18. MSV Hex was a nice string except for the cheap feel. Big Ace Micro is definitely my more preferred string as well.

Mig1NC
12-11-2009, 03:30 AM
You guys try hybriding before, with 18g in the crosses?

sargeinaz
12-11-2009, 06:14 PM
I thought 18G gave more power.

kalic
12-12-2009, 06:10 AM
My experience with BabolatPH18 and SPPP18 are very similar. Amazing feel, spin, playability, comfort in the first match/training. The best stringjob I ever tried. Second match/training - decent. Then all goes down rapidly.

stanfordtennis alum
12-12-2009, 07:14 AM
kirschbaum pro line 2 1.15 is pretty good for a 18 gauge poly..