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JackB1
12-08-2009, 08:40 AM
I have tried XOne, FXP Power, Excel Premium, Prince Premier
and all were good, but I am wondering if there is something out there more durable? I have been using 17g.

I am using full multi bed on an open pattern racquet.

Irvin
12-08-2009, 08:42 AM
Gamma Live Wire XP 17.

Irvin

JackB1
12-08-2009, 08:44 AM
on a related note.....any websites list strings by durability? I have seen stiffness and power...but not durability.

SteveI
12-08-2009, 08:54 AM
Gamma Live Wire XP 17.

Irvin

Hi Irvin,

I have had just the reverse experience with Gamma LiveWire XP 17. I may have had a bad batch in the past, but I was breaking it about every 5 hours. I stopped using it for that reason. In general I am not a string breaker. My normal set-up lasts 15-20 hours.

Steve

lawlitssoo1n
12-08-2009, 09:03 AM
pro supex maxim touch is one the more durable multi's out there

Irvin
12-08-2009, 09:09 AM
Hi Irvin,

I have had just the reverse experience with Gamma LiveWire XP 17. I may have had a bad batch in the past, but I was breaking it about every 5 hours. I stopped using it for that reason. In general I am not a string breaker. My normal set-up lasts 15-20 hours.

Steve

My stings generally never break. They do cut quite well though. LOL The only reference I have is what my customers tell me and most think the Live Wire XP holds up quite well.

Irvin

1st Seed
12-08-2009, 10:44 AM
Tec/NRG most durable hands down.You're poly crosses will break before it does.Little bit costly but well worth it.

JackB1
12-08-2009, 11:03 AM
Tec/NRG most durable hands down.You're poly crosses will break before it does.Little bit costly but well worth it.

I heard NRG was durable. I also heard XOne was more durable than NRG, since XOne is NRG with a coating on it. True?

Sublime
12-08-2009, 01:14 PM
I've found Prince Recoil to be well above average in durability for a multi.

mutantducky
12-08-2009, 01:45 PM
yonex 850 is fine

sruckauf
12-08-2009, 02:02 PM
Head RIP Control is the most durable multi I've ever tried.

tennisINmyBLOOD
12-08-2009, 06:14 PM
I don't break string, but from what I've heard, Head Rip Control is a multifilament with the characteristics of a poly as far as durability. Keep in mind it still is soft with plenty of feel, but it's durability is well above average.

I heard Tecnifibre Multifeel is also one of the more durable multifilaments because of its solid core. I just ordered a set and have yet to try it.

BobFL
12-08-2009, 06:39 PM
I don't break string, but from what I've heard, Head Rip Control is a multifilament with the characteristics of a poly as far as durability. Keep in mind it still is soft with plenty of feel, but it's durability is well above average.

I heard Tecnifibre Multifeel is also one of the more durable multifilaments because of its solid core. I just ordered a set and have yet to try it.

That is what I call: fake hybrid. The real hybrid string has tens/hundreds of fibers. The real multis are Gosen Remplir, Babolat Addiction etc.

BTW, I highly recommend Gosen Remplir! Exceptional durability!

JackB1
12-10-2009, 05:52 AM
Is there any place to get "factual" info on durable multi's? Someone will recommend something and then someone else will say it lasted them 2 hours. It gets very confusing trying to get the real answers on this.

ksmn
12-10-2009, 06:55 AM
I also play with the YT Rad Pro. You may want to try Ashaway Dynamite. Tension it like you would a poly. When I use it I drop tension by 3 pounds compared to oter multis.

The strings will move around a lot, but it will not break.

number.432
12-10-2009, 07:14 AM
Is there any place to get "factual" info on durable multi's? Someone will recommend something and then someone else will say it lasted them 2 hours. It gets very confusing trying to get the real answers on this.

I guess not Jack. Since everyone plays/develops differently and string preference is an absolute personal pursuit. There is no real answer to which 'string' lasts or feels or plays B-E-S-T.

For example, since we both switch to play natural gut. I prefer Klip Legend (which many people would say it's got platicky feeling/coating on it) but I like the bites it offers. While my wife is hooked on VS (and I don't blame her on that).

Bottom line is multi is not made for durability. If you want more durability or if you are string breaker may be better to opt for poly/co-poly or perhaps natural gut. Only you will know after trials.....

jonvdw
12-10-2009, 07:51 AM
I heard NRG was durable. I also heard XOne was more durable than NRG, since XOne is NRG with a coating on it. True?

No, the X-One Biphase is a totally different (and better, meaning more filaments, less glue) string than the NRG (which also has a coating, like every multifilament). Not to say the NRG is bad (on the contrary), it's just that the X-One is a newer generation string.

Power Player
12-10-2009, 09:36 AM
I also play with the YT Rad Pro. You may want to try Ashaway Dynamite. Tension it like you would a poly. When I use it I drop tension by 3 pounds compared to oter multis.

The strings will move around a lot, but it will not break.

How is the spin with this string? I have heard good things about Dynamite..what is like in terms of power and durability?

NRG is durable..it is a lot more durable then Maximtouch..that is NOT the most durable multi for sure.

charliefedererer
12-10-2009, 11:10 AM
on a related note.....any websites list strings by durability? I have seen stiffness and power...but not durability.

Stringforum.net http://www.stringforum.net/stringsearch.php accumulates evaluation of strings from a large number of players who log on and grade multiple string characteristics. Using their search feature, you can sort strings on any of these characteristics, including durability. Of course these evaluations are highly subjective, but you probably get at least a rough guide to durability (or any other characteristic you want to look at). The following is a list of multifilaments in descending order of durability, with at least five evaluations per multifilament http://www.stringforum.net/stringsearch.php?start=50&sorttype=AvgH&limit=50&minbew=5&global=1&erhaeltlich=1&mf=1&details=1&hide=0 :

String size/diameter #evaluators Performance/Price Ratio
Dunlop Max Comfort 16 8 4.71
Tecnifibre NRG2 16 8 1.92
Isospeed Energetic Plus 1.30 9
Isospeed Energetic 16 22 2.40
Babolat Hybrid Pro Hurricane + XCel 1.25/1.30 8
SuperString VooDoo Energy V9 1.20 8
Tecnifibre Promix 1.30 6 1.60
Yonex Tour Super 850 Pro 16 6 2.22
Tecnifibre Competition 1.28 11
Kirschbaum Hybrix Spin 1.25/1.25 8
Klip Venom 17 8 2.21
Head Rip PerfectPower 1.31 7 0.69
Head FXP Power 16 6
Isospeed Energetic 17 22 2.20
Gamma Live Wire Professional 17 7 1.20
Topspin Sence Seven 1.32 14
Tecnifibre X-One Biphase 16 14 1.72
Wilson Reaction 16 16 1.46
Kirschbaum Hybrix Power 1.25/1.25 15
Yonex Tour Super 850 Soft 16 10 2.09
Tecnifibre X-Tra Dynamic 1.28 9
Wilson Sensation 15L 10 2.25
Tecnifibre NRG2 17 16 2.00
Wilson NXT Tour 16 23 1.44
Wilson NXT Tour 17 16 1.56
SuperString VooDoo Tour V9 1.20 8
WeissCANNON Explosiv! 1.30 18 2.30
Tecnifibre X-One Biphase 17 34 2.14
Tecnifibre Promix 1.25 10 2.30
Pacific PMX Hybrid 16L 9
MSV Soft-Control 1.25 30
Pacific Futura TXT 16L 8 1.63
Head Rip PerfectControl 1.30 20 1.64
Babolat Hybrid Pro Hurricane + XCel 1.25/1.25 14
Wilson Sensation 16 42 1.75
Gamma Asterisk 16 23 0.80
Kirschbaum Touch Multifibre 1.30 11
SuperString Rupture V10 1.20 16
Topspin Fibretouch 1.30 14 1.00
Wilson [K] Gut 16 0.79
Head FiberGel Power 1.30 6 2.33
Babolat XCel 16 40 1.13
Dunlop M-Fil Tour 16 16 0.43
Gamma Live Wire XP 16 9 1.07
Ashaway Vantage Pro 17 6 2.59
Wilson NXT 16 21 1.19
Völkl Catapult-Power 16L 15
Head FiberGel 16 13 2.11
Tecnifibre X-One 1.24 5
Babolat Attraction Power 17
Prince Premier Softflex 16 9 1.23
Völkl Power-Fiber II 17 44 0.77
Signum Pro Fiber High Tec EXP 1.30 14 2.60
Gamma Live Wire XP 17 9 1.57
Kirschbaum Touch Multifibre 1.25 10
Wilson NXT 17 15 1.44
Babolat Attraction 16 14
Wilson Sensation 17 17 1.38
Babolat XCel 17 13 1.25
Völkl Catapult F.I.R.E. 1.28/1.22 8
Tecnifibre X-One Biphase 18 9

If you go to the website link, you can also look at other characteristics of the string, and even read the additional individual comments of every evaluator.
Hope this helps. (Sorry the spreadsheet didn't copy too well.)

ksmn
12-10-2009, 11:19 AM
How is the spin with this string? I have heard good things about Dynamite..what is like in terms of power and durability?

NRG is durable..it is a lot more durable then Maximtouch..that is NOT the most durable multi for sure.

Dynamite is very durable, with power like a high end multi. I have never broken a string while using it. IMO it has kind of a muted feel. Grip is also very good. It looks like steel cable. Treat it like poly when choosing tension.

AAAA
12-10-2009, 11:20 AM
When I wanted a more durable multi my stringer recommended Tecnifibre Promix and duramix, multifilament polys. Initially the decrease in pace and liveliness took some getting used to but now I play play better and hit harder because the string is easier to control than the Babolat Powergy I used before. Durability is much way higher than Powergy, no comparison.

JackB1
12-10-2009, 11:55 AM
No, the X-One Biphase is a totally different (and better, meaning more filaments, less glue) string than the NRG (which also has a coating, like every multifilament). Not to say the NRG is bad (on the contrary), it's just that the X-One is a newer generation string.

But which lasts longer?

JackB1
12-10-2009, 11:59 AM
[QUOTE=charliefedererer;4186895]Stringforum.net http://www.stringforum.net/stringsearch.php accumulates evaluation of strings from a large number of players who log on and grade multiple string characteristics. Using their search feature, you can sort strings on any of these characteristics, including durability. Of course these evaluations are highly subjective, but you probably get at least a rough guide to durability (or any other characteristic you want to look at). The following is a list of multifilaments in descending order of durability, with at least five evaluations per multifilament[/QUOTE

thanks for sharing that info! Interesting how NRG2 is near the top and XOne is at the bottom

BigT
12-10-2009, 12:47 PM
Head ETS 16g.

PED
12-11-2009, 07:41 AM
Jack, why not try out a 16g multi in the Rad. that would certainly help durability.

The drill pattern is massively open on the rad pro and I have been using a 16g poly this week with no ill effects.

The other thing about durability is that it varies SO much from user to user depending on your stroke and how much spin. Part of it is going to be going out yourself and just trying all the different setups and tensions to find out what works best for you. String preference is so personal to each player.

Your elbow seems to be an issue and I know that has to be frustrating. Maybe even try a poly hybrid strung really low for comfort. There's another thread in this section on a guy doing full poly in the high 40's and it's quite arm friendly :)

JackB1
12-11-2009, 10:31 AM
Jack, why not try out a 16g multi in the Rad. that would certainly help durability.

The drill pattern is massively open on the rad pro and I have been using a 16g poly this week with no ill effects.

The other thing about durability is that it varies SO much from user to user depending on your stroke and how much spin. Part of it is going to be going out yourself and just trying all the different setups and tensions to find out what works best for you. String preference is so personal to each player.

Your elbow seems to be an issue and I know that has to be frustrating. Maybe even try a poly hybrid strung really low for comfort. There's another thread in this section on a guy doing full poly in the high 40's and it's quite arm friendly :)

Thanks PED. Yes, I am thinking of trying a full bed of 16g multi. I currently have 17g hybrid of multi/poly & poly/multi and have been having some elbow pain, so next up is either a nat gut/copoly hybrid or just a full multi 16g. I love the way the multi/poly hybrid feels while playing, but I feel it afterwards.

PED
12-11-2009, 12:51 PM
Jack, 16g in the Head FXP is most likely your best bet for a durable multi setup. I've used it in several sticks with good results.

1st Seed
12-11-2009, 01:41 PM
^^^Good suggestion^^
Zyex strings are awesome,Very durable,
Dynamite looks like barb wire,best grip on a ball ever!

jonvdw
12-11-2009, 06:06 PM
But which lasts longer?

I think they are about the same, durability wise. Maybe the X-One has an edge, because its coating appears to be stiffer. Like all multifilaments, durability is not their selling point: the power, feel and comfort is.