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morten
12-17-2009, 12:53 AM
For example, can a continental gripper hit at a steep angle(seen from the side, court level) to get more spin/control, or always better more straight/horizontal since it is a "flat stroke grip"? Do western grippers hit at a steeper angle...? get it? :) opinions wanted. I hit eastern and have found great success hitting steeper lately...

morten
12-18-2009, 01:04 AM
anyone...?

5263
12-18-2009, 03:18 AM
For example, can a continental gripper hit at a steep angle(seen from the side, court level) to get more spin/control, or always better more straight/horizontal since it is a "flat stroke grip"? Do western grippers hit at a steeper angle...? get it? :) opinions wanted. I hit eastern and have found great success hitting steeper lately...
Sure, it can be done. It just tends to be easier with more severe grips due to how the body works.

paulfreda
12-18-2009, 08:15 AM
Yes, in general your observations are correct; Cont FH grip is better for flat hitters, SW and W grips for topspin players.
But this is NOT written in stone.
Tom Okker [in the 60's] used a Continental FH grip and could swing very steep [ back by his right hip] and get topspin even though it is a very poor grip for topspin.

SW and Western grippers can swing more low to high [steep] because the grips naturally close the face [point more to the ground] and allow swinging low to high WITHOUT the risk of hitting it long.

Frank Silbermann
12-19-2009, 08:55 PM
Continental grip means you're hitting with the ball out to your side; western grip makes you hit the ball way out in front. Because your arm is in different positions for the two styles, you use different joints and muscles to move the racket forward or upwards.

With the western grip, you tend to use your trunk to move the racket forwards, and both wrist pronation and the shoulder to move it upwards.

With the continental grip, the wrist pronation moves the racket head forward, while the arm at the shoulder moves it upwards. For heavy topspin, you sort of drop the racket head behind your legs and circle it out and up from behind your hip. It's hard to see the ball well when it's not out in front, but it's the best way to topspin a ball that's well below your knees.

This all applies only to forehands, by the way.

Blake0
12-20-2009, 10:12 AM
I see what you're saying and it is possible. Well im not really sure about the continental grip, but on eastern grips you can get a more vertical stroke to get more spin. Thats what federer does sometimes when he wants more spin, although usually he hits with a horizontal swingpath.

In general it is the way you said, eastern is more horizontal, western grips go steeper. But it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. With semi-western you have the option to do both quite easily, that's why it's recommended over western. With eastern both is possible, but getting spin can be difficult for some.With western both is possible, but usually you'll hit with a lot of spin and its harder to flatten out, because of the odd way you have to position your arm in order to hit the ball.