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teachingprotx
12-26-2009, 02:28 PM
Hi guys, i am looking for some of the more flexible offerings from Head racquets from the eighties....maybe the club pro? team pro? would love to have the specs of these ole beauties..ive looked but cannot find ..anyone have any info?? thank you much!
ps.. ive always wanted to know if there were any other adjectives to describe the feel for the older generation Head sticks besides" firm" or "medium" flex???

Don't Let It Bounce
12-26-2009, 02:55 PM
I believe these are from a thread called "All RDC specs", or something similar, posted on an ongoing basis by a generous soul. I'm not positive all these are from the 80's, though:

Model/mass/Flex/Swingwt
Comfort Edge 356/55/328
Elite Master 317/50/315
Extreme Competition 324/62/304
Graphite Edge 348/44/331
Graphite Pro 363/56/345

ps.. ive always wanted to know if there were any other adjectives to describe the feel for the older generation Head sticks besides" firm" or "medium" flex???Heh... This could be a thread all by itself. I nominate:

"reed in a hurricane"
"makes a 12-yr-old Chinese acrobat look like Schwarzenneger"
"I forgot to take the pasta off the stove"
"remove handle from racquet hoop before stringing"
"a world without Viagra"
:lol:
Hey, I taught in Dallas in the late 80's and early 90's. Where are you teaching? (If you don't want to say in a public forum, that's cool.)

teachingprotx
12-26-2009, 03:16 PM
Thanks DLIB! do you know anything of the club pro's or teampro specs??? you taught in dallas thats very cool!!!! im at a club in Plano preston road area.:):)

meowmix
12-26-2009, 07:23 PM
Shakes head... think of all the kids that you've just scarred for life with that post!!! shakes head.... :) :) :)

There are some other rackets out there that feel like a noodle. Thing is, they're not by head.

teachingprotx
12-26-2009, 09:21 PM
oops i meant ..any other descriptions on the side of the frames where composition and string tension range is....
meow..i have a rossif200 and used to play with the m200g(1st generation) loved it...just wanted to get some ideas about the older head sticks...they look so great..i just loved that mold shape....i play off and on with wilson reflex, hits great...and puma super..but im afraid ive cracked her in the throat...sad.....:(

Thepowerofchoice
12-26-2009, 11:56 PM
Here are my "flexy" (wet noodle) racquets from the 80's and 90's. My Head Club Pro feels the most flexible compare to the rest of my racquets in the pictures. I believe they all have the stiffness rating under 60 except Prestige 600 (62?). The Team Pro also play pretty stiff compares to Club Pro's. My Club Pro weights 342 grams/ 8pt Head light.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/thepowerofchoice/IMG_1992.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/thepowerofchoice/IMG_1983.jpg

teachingprotx
12-27-2009, 12:10 AM
oh my gosh those things look so gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!wow that is a stellar lot of amazing sticks....when did you find out about the club pros????they look awesome....they must play outta this world...?? tell me more..please!!! thank you so much for responding with pics my freind your the coolest...ive never seen the club pros that have the similiar PJ as the team pro blue with the flecks..sweet!!!:)

Thepowerofchoice
12-27-2009, 12:35 AM
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=245141&highlight=club+pro

Check this out...Great pics and info!

teachingprotx
12-27-2009, 02:54 PM
WOW!!!!!! thanks for that link sir! or mam? the power of choice amazing pics and info...i cant wait to try and get one of these....once i do (hope) i will get the true specs as we have access to an rdc machine at our sister club....oooohhhhh man. im gettin excited. what is yer favorite color combo? i know already that with my luck i will find one and the grommets will be shot...i dunno about the capped grommet thing it looks awesome but i wouldnt want to make it any heavier than it is...12.5oz would pretty much max me out as far as weight....in your professional opinion, is there any lighter alt versions of head sticks with that same deep flex as the club pro?

Thepowerofchoice
12-27-2009, 05:03 PM
WOW!!!!!! thanks for that link sir! or mam? the power of choice amazing pics and info...i cant wait to try and get one of these....once i do (hope) i will get the true specs as we have access to an rdc machine at our sister club....oooohhhhh man. im gettin excited. what is yer favorite color combo? i know already that with my luck i will find one and the grommets will be shot...i dunno about the capped grommet thing it looks awesome but i wouldnt want to make it any heavier than it is...12.5oz would pretty much max me out as far as weight....in your professional opinion, is there any lighter alt versions of head sticks with that same deep flex as the club pro?

I'll take any color combo of the club pro. They are truely awesome racquets. An easy solution for capped grommet without extra weights is to trim your grommet with a knife and that should keeps weight under 12.5oz. I added 6 grams of lead tape to 3 and 9 o'clock and 1 grams at 12 and this bad boy feels like wood racquet on steriod.

teachingprotx
12-27-2009, 05:20 PM
right on! how would one trim the cap'd grommets? thinner to where the capped is only resting on the original grommet line(closer into the frame) or simply creating a bumper gaurd?

teachingprotx
12-27-2009, 05:20 PM
thanks again :)

Thepowerofchoice
12-27-2009, 08:18 PM
right on! how would one trim the cap'd grommets? thinner to where the capped is only resting on the original grommet line(closer into the frame) or simply creating a bumper gaurd?

It might be easier if you trim the (cap)bumper when it's not on the frame. I used a heavy duty scissor, it was simple. The scissor cut through the bumper smoothly and if you want to add a little nice touch, you can trim the ends in a V shape.

It's a little trickier to try and trim the cap bumper when the bumper is installed on the racuqet. It can be done but it takes longer and might scratch your racquet. I used a box cutter and the outcome was not as clean and smooth a job as it was with the scissor.

jorel
12-28-2009, 04:40 AM
xrc???


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teachingprotx
12-28-2009, 06:56 AM
can you post a pic of your racket with the trimmed grommets? that would really help me

Thepowerofchoice
12-28-2009, 08:49 PM
can you post a pic of your racket with the trimmed grommets? that would really help me

Sorry I don't have any pictures. I replaced my trimmed grommets (Head Zebra 95) with MG Radical midplus.

FedererClone
12-30-2009, 08:50 PM
You MUST try the HEAD TXE frame...

Fed Kennedy
12-30-2009, 10:54 PM
Do any of you head flexmongers string poly in these things? Does it defeat the purpose? I have a graphite edge: thing has a ton of pop strung with dead 80s syn gut. It feels like a kps88 wrapped up in a pillow. I think copoly might be somewhat awesome in this frame, what do you think?

vsbabolat
12-31-2009, 09:22 AM
Do any of you head flexmongers string poly in these things? Does it defeat the purpose? I have a graphite edge: thing has a ton of pop strung with dead 80s syn gut. It feels like a kps88 wrapped up in a pillow. I think copoly might be somewhat awesome in this frame, what do you think?

I would never dream of stringing a GE with a poly. If you want the full experience of the early 80's try Leoina 66.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Toalson_Leoina_66_15L_String/descpageACGAMMA-LEO.html

Fed Kennedy
12-31-2009, 10:30 AM
Interesting vsbabolat, thanks for the link...is your poly aversion for aesthetic reasons or performance reasons (or both)? Currently my GE is strung with prince syn gut original 16 at unknown tension (plays quite nice) but I like to dabble.

Virginia
12-31-2009, 10:47 AM
I would never dream of stringing a GE with a poly. If you want the full experience of the early 80's try Leoina 66.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Toalson_Leoina_66_15L_String/descpageACGAMMA-LEO.html
Interesting you should mention the Leoina 66 - my stringer says that it is/was over-rated and that "copycat" strings are actually better. This from over 40 years' stringing experience. :)

vsbabolat
12-31-2009, 11:35 AM
Interesting you should mention the Leoina 66 - my stringer says that it is/was over-rated and that "copycat" strings are actually better. This from over 40 years' stringing experience. :)

I don't know how a string that costs $2.75 can be over rated. I rate it pretty low.:)

retrowagen
12-31-2009, 12:04 PM
Leoina 66 -

Still one of my favourite strings. Just has a friendly feel. I'm really having a quandry deciding whether to switch from Wilson NXT 16 to Leo 66 in my Elite Pros and Elliptics. My inner accountant says Absolutely, my inner elitist says Ehhhhh, and my inner pragmatist is suggesting Why Not.

Virginia
12-31-2009, 03:25 PM
I don't know how a string that costs $2.75 can be over rated. I rate it pretty low.:)
Well, I think what he meant was that players here in New Zealand were always asking for it, but he felt that other similar strings were in fact better. I don't know the relative prices, either here or elsewhere, because I'm not a stringer. However I got the impression from your earlier post, where you mentioned the "full experience of the early 80's", that you were recommending it as a good string to use in classic racquets. :)

I have it in my Chris Competition and it cerrtainly feels very friendly, as retrowagan has mentioned. I asked my stringer if he had any and he said no and that others were better anyway. Maybe he only said that because he no longer stocked it and not because he thought it inferior! :)

Don't Let It Bounce
12-31-2009, 08:08 PM
I don't know how a string that costs $2.75 can be over rated. I rate it pretty low.:)I always did too, but I do remember other tennis players talking about it as if it were something other than the cheap synthetic it seems to be. It was probably a matter of broke college kids* comparing Leo66 to other cheap synthetics, cheap synthetics being all we could afford!

* An important element of the "full experience of the early 80's" for me.

teachingprotx
01-02-2010, 03:40 PM
anyone know of where i may find a Head club pro for sale? i have tried to post a wanted add 3 times and TW wont post it for some reason..:):):)