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beststringer
01-25-2010, 10:32 AM
We have a mxd team and the guys are just not showing up for practice and cancelling their match confirmations days before the match while the ladies are showing up every practice.

Most guys are in their 30s/ and 40s. The laides are moslty 40 and 50 +

do you have the same situation in ur teams?

JSF1
01-25-2010, 10:48 AM
It's the opposite on my 8.0 team. Guys are always wanting to play and the ladies are cancelling practice, etc. Our matches are on Friday nights, so may have something to do with schedules and kids, etc.

jserve
01-25-2010, 01:37 PM
I find men's doubles more fun and interesting to play than mixed doubles. In mixed doubles my partner gets isolated and even as active as I am trying to get into the point, I don't get many chances all the time. It becomes rather frustrating.

In men's doubles the pace is higher and I get a chance to hit a lot more shots rather than being a spectator constantly trying to get into a point. If I had a choice of playing mixed or men's doubles I would choose men's doubles.

raiden031
01-25-2010, 01:46 PM
Maybe the men have to work, and the women are stay-at-home so they have more free time?

spot
01-25-2010, 01:49 PM
In our group the guys are more dedicated to getting out to play, but when it comes to scheduling makeup matches the women outclass the guys by such a large margin as to be comical. Interestingly the guys on our team whine about playing in lousy weather more than the girls do. Guys attend practice far more but thats because they basically just come to practice so they can go out for beer afterward.

JRstriker12
01-25-2010, 02:12 PM
I find men's doubles more fun and interesting to play than mixed doubles. In mixed doubles my partner gets isolated and even as active as I am trying to get into the point, I don't get many chances all the time. It becomes rather frustrating.

In men's doubles the pace is higher and I get a chance to hit a lot more shots rather than being a spectator constantly trying to get into a point. If I had a choice of playing mixed or men's doubles I would choose men's doubles.

What level of mixed are you playing?

I found that going from 7.0 mixed to 8.0 mixed was a world of difference - no keep away and everyone one on the court could hit. Before I got bumped, I was a 3.5 playing with a 4.5 woman. I was a challenge being the weaker player in the court.

As for women being more commited.... I don't know. Seems like everyone on our team is commited.

JavierLW
01-25-2010, 02:22 PM
We have a mxd team and the guys are just not showing up for practice and cancelling their match confirmations days before the match while the ladies are showing up every practice.

Most guys are in their 30s/ and 40s. The laides are moslty 40 and 50 +

do you have the same situation in ur teams?

It's probably because the men have wives at home that have something else for them to do.

I run a men's team and that's just the way it is...

I still blame the men though.

What happens a lot is some men are responsible and they are able to tell their wives that they have made plans (or they check with them ahead of time).

And some men are just very sheepish and lazy and they let their wives plan their entire schedule for them. So rather then keep their plans for you, it's a lot easier for them just to cancel because they would hate to have too make a decision on their own....

Pretty much when they say they are going to do something you learn that it really means "if they dont come across something else.....". Once I know that I pretty much just put them on the bottom of my list when it comes to counting on someone.

Women on the other hand can just tell their husbands they are playing. (and they have no problem Im sure doing so.....)

On top of that there seem to be a lot more women playing league tennis then men. A lot of them have a lot more time on their hands so they have a lot more time to dedicate to the sport.

Tina
01-25-2010, 02:25 PM
I will definitely show-up for the match. Have you read a book named "Men from Mars Women from Venus"? It might help explain why "Men" and "Women" behave differently. Best, Tina

gameboy
01-25-2010, 02:56 PM
Have you read a book named "Men from Mars Women from Venus"? It might help explain why "Men" and "Women" behave differently. Best, Tina

Please do not tell me that you just recommended a book written by a "doctor" with a phantom degree...

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_03/003504.php

Tina
01-25-2010, 04:50 PM
Please do not tell me that you just recommended a book written by a "doctor" with a phantom degree...

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_03/003504.php

You are thinking too much, gameboy. Have a great evening! -Tina

Topaz
01-25-2010, 05:01 PM
I have found that it is more team to team that varies in commitment level, rather than a specific gender. Some teams have been together a long time and tend to be very responsible players (as well as friends). And then some teams are a bit rag tag where people don't know each other as well...and in turn, people tend to flake out a lot more, too.

Cindysphinx
01-25-2010, 08:37 PM
My own experience in mixed is that the women show up for practice, take instruction, and learn positioning. The guys are much less likely to do these things.

jserve
01-25-2010, 11:15 PM
My own experience in mixed is that the women show up for practice, take instruction, and learn positioning. The guys are much less likely to do these things.

I'm not sure if I hold this opinion because I'm a man or some other reason, but I play league tennis solely for fun and social reasons. A practice on instruction/positioning sounds more like a chore to me, so I probably wouldn't show up for that either.

dlk
01-26-2010, 06:27 AM
My own experience in mixed is that the women show up for practice, take instruction, and learn positioning. The guys are much less likely to do these things.

I agree. Where I live, the problem is there is probably a 5:1 male/female ration, so complete WTT leagues are tough.

spot
01-26-2010, 07:05 AM
Maybe this is a married/Single thing. For our team because we go out for drinks after practice the guys are DEDICATED about showing up to practice where the girls are far more iffy about it.

beststringer
01-26-2010, 12:07 PM
Maybe this is a married/Single thing. For our team because we go out for drinks after practice the guys are DEDICATED about showing up to practice where the girls are far more iffy about it.

LOL. that only works if the girls are somewhat good looking. not in my case. talk about cellulite ditches and rivers of veins, giant bums....

MissJennieB
01-27-2010, 12:44 PM
Maybe this is a married/Single thing. For our team because we go out for drinks after practice the guys are DEDICATED about showing up to practice where the girls are far more iffy about it.

My three main criteria when I recruit for my mixed doubles team are:

1) They are committed
2) They kick ***
3) They MUST be able to drink after we play, whether is be practice or match. As a matter of fact, the women on my team probably outdrink the men everytime :twisted:

Topaz
01-27-2010, 12:50 PM
^^^Suddenly, Jennie's team is overflowing with interested members!

Uh, out of curiosity, what region are in Jennie?

jserve
01-27-2010, 01:04 PM
My three main criteria when I recruit for my mixed doubles team are:

1) They are committed
2) They kick ***
3) They MUST be able to drink after we play, whether is be practice or match. As a matter of fact, the women on my team probably outdrink the men everytime :twisted:

Where can I sign up?

Blade0324
01-27-2010, 01:23 PM
I would have to agree that women are generally more committed than men in leagues. The mixed team I played on the men generally got roped into being there by their wives etc. and didn't really want to do it.

However the mens team that I was on last season and will be the same again this year we all have to commit to practice twice a week. Must play one tournament per month and must not be unavailable for more than 1 match out of 9 during the season. If you can't commit to that and stay with it then you will not be welcome on the team and will not get played.

MissJennieB
01-27-2010, 01:53 PM
^^^Suddenly, Jennie's team is overflowing with interested members!

Uh, out of curiosity, what region are in Jennie?

LOL! I'm in Colorado. You?

Topaz
01-27-2010, 01:55 PM
LOL! I'm in Colorado. You?

Ah, darn...DC metro area.

MissJennieB
01-27-2010, 01:56 PM
Where can I sign up?

Haha! If you don't mind flying into Colorado to play on Sundays you're in :)

MissJennieB
01-27-2010, 01:58 PM
Ah, darn...DC metro area.

Oh that's too bad! And quite far from where I am! What level do you play?

jserve
01-27-2010, 02:45 PM
Haha! If you don't mind flying into Colorado to play on Sundays you're in :)

I actually already drive 30 minutes further than I have to because I think that team is a lot more fun to be around than the closer teams; they do have beer after the matches too!

MissJennieB
01-27-2010, 03:39 PM
^^I'd do the same thing you do. Beer is a must after matches and practices (sometimes during!).

raiden031
01-27-2010, 03:48 PM
However the mens team that I was on last season and will be the same again this year we all have to commit to practice twice a week. Must play one tournament per month and must not be unavailable for more than 1 match out of 9 during the season. If you can't commit to that and stay with it then you will not be welcome on the team and will not get played.

This sounds unreasonable to me. Are you talking about tournaments that are completely unrelated to the league? I mean tournaments are a pain because often times you have to leave an entire weekend open because you don't know what your match schedule will be. Thats why I play maybe one tournament a year.

Cindysphinx
01-27-2010, 04:14 PM
This sounds unreasonable to me. Are you talking about tournaments that are completely unrelated to the league? I mean tournaments are a pain because often times you have to leave an entire weekend open because you don't know what your match schedule will be. Thats why I play maybe one tournament a year.

Yeah, I couldn't live with that restriction, and I don't even have a day job.

I would think you'd miss out on a lot of good players with such rules.

Tina
01-27-2010, 04:32 PM
My three main criteria when I recruit for my mixed doubles team are:

1) They are committed
2) They kick ***
3) They MUST be able to drink after we play, whether is be practice or match. As a matter of fact, the women on my team probably outdrink the men everytime :twisted:

I am in if there is any chance LOL!

Topaz
01-27-2010, 07:18 PM
Oh that's too bad! And quite far from where I am! What level do you play?

3.5. Taking a 'break' from mixed this year, though, since I'm also going back to school in addition to working full time. Trying to focus on getting ready for singles for the spring USTA season.

Yeah, I couldn't live with that restriction, and I don't even have a day job.

I would think you'd miss out on a lot of good players with such rules.

That is probably why so many tournaments have such small draws. It is a big time commitment and some tournies cost quite a bit!

I am in if there is any chance LOL!

See, Jennie suddenly has many volunteers! LOL Sounds like a fun team!

MissJennieB
01-27-2010, 07:30 PM
3.5. Taking a 'break' from mixed this year, though, since I'm also going back to school in addition to working full time. Trying to focus on getting ready for singles for the spring USTA season.

See, Jennie suddenly has many volunteers! LOL Sounds like a fun team!


Ah I see.. That's great that you're getting prepared for singles! I'm going to play more singles this year as well.

Haha we do have a lot of fun as a team. I can't wait till leagues start!

Topaz
01-27-2010, 07:34 PM
Ah I see.. That's great that you're getting prepared for singles! I'm going to play more singles this year as well.

Haha we do have a lot of fun as a team. I can't wait till leagues start!

I played my first 'singles' spot last year, and prefer singles, but still have a *lot* to learn!

And I would like to officially welcome you to TW, it is nice to have another gal around here!!!

jserve
01-27-2010, 09:00 PM
See, Jennie suddenly has many volunteers! LOL Sounds like a fun team!

I hope Jennie can handle it when the entire TT forum moves to CO to play on her teams.

Blade0324
01-28-2010, 07:58 AM
MissJennieB, I'm in Denver as well. Not sure what level you are playing but if you are looking for players for mixed, I'm looking for a team. :)

Cindysphinx
01-28-2010, 08:11 AM
I have a 3.0 female relative in Denver who would love to play mixed. Shout out if you need her.

Ripper014
01-28-2010, 10:37 AM
Can I spare...? I might be driving through in the summer during my holidays...

spot
01-28-2010, 10:52 AM
Ha- funny this thread is up here right now. We have 2 mixed teams and tonight we have a combined practice. Its one of the girls birthday's so there will definitely be going out afterward. We reserved 6 courts thinking that would be plenty but at this point we have 26 people who have RSVP'd so we have 2 extra and can't get another court. To answer the question from the thread we have 13 girls and 13 guys who are showing up.

MissJennieB
01-28-2010, 11:12 AM
I hope Jennie can handle it when the entire TT forum moves to CO to play on her teams.

LOL! Wouldn't that just be fun?!

MissJennieB, I'm in Denver as well. Not sure what level you are playing but if you are looking for players for mixed, I'm looking for a team. :)

You're in Denver? That's awesome to meet a fellow Denverite on here! What level do you play?

I have a 3.0 female relative in Denver who would love to play mixed. Shout out if you need her.

Thanks for the referral Cindy! I'm looking for players to fill my 8.0 mixed team so it might be out of her league :) I'll be sure to let you know if any of my friends need players for their 7.0 teams!

Can I spare...? I might be driving through in the summer during my holidays...

We can always use a spare! What level do you play?

Blade0324
01-28-2010, 12:26 PM
You're in Denver? That's awesome to meet a fellow Denverite on here! What level do you play?



I'm in southwest littleton and play 4.0 and some above that. I'll be playing in the tournament coming up next week at the littleton bubble, you?

You can email me as well at jbswift@hotmail.com