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Deathsticks
01-25-2010, 03:37 PM
Looks like they finaly reveleaded the name o their new black string
not sure if this is the official video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVz-vZY51U4

here the pic from their site
http://www.babolat.com/#/tennis/us/products/cat33/

kickenchiken92
01-25-2010, 04:08 PM
Any word on a release date?

Deathsticks
01-25-2010, 04:30 PM
I think its going to be released with the new Aero Gt s on Feb 1

arche3
01-25-2010, 04:33 PM
I'm all over that as soon as it is out.

star 5 15
01-25-2010, 05:12 PM
its gotta be pretty good for tsonga to switch to it from alu.

Fedace
01-25-2010, 05:16 PM
For sure better than Revenge crap. but i do worry however. All the pros have switched to this, which means, it isn't that powerful. Most pros like Polys with Great control and spin and don't really care about power too much. I also like power on my polys and Feel is a must for my poly........

star 5 15
01-25-2010, 05:19 PM
For sure better than Revenge crap. but i do worry however. All the pros have switched to this, which means, it isn't that powerful. Most pros like Polys with Great control and spin and don't really care about power too much. I also like power on my polys and Feel is a must for my poly........

alu power mainly has power and thats what pros use. I don't know where you come up with this stuff.

Fedace
01-25-2010, 05:19 PM
Holy crap,,,,, the Shape of the string is rough. it is some sold of hexoagonal or Octagonal........ That means one thing,,,Crap FEEL...

Fedace
01-25-2010, 05:20 PM
alu power mainly has power and thats what pros use. I don't know where you come up with this stuff.

That is true, i agree that alu power has big time power. Lets just hope the feel is better than the Pro hurricane tour...

star 5 15
01-25-2010, 05:24 PM
That is true, i agree that alu power has big time power. Lets just hope the feel is better than the Pro hurricane tour...

I think it is safe to say that this new string is very similar to alu power...

brownbearfalling
01-25-2010, 05:26 PM
Babolat doesn't make the best polys for the price that they charge. I don't have any expectations for this new string. For people that use Babolat polys, do some research and find a better alternative.

Fedace
01-25-2010, 05:32 PM
I think it is safe to say that this new string is very similar to alu power...

What makes you think that ??????/ None of the previous poly by Babolat felt nothing like the Alu power. they were all softer than alu for sure..

SuperDuy
01-25-2010, 05:34 PM
Holy crap,,,,, the Shape of the string is rough. it is some sold of hexoagonal or Octagonal........ That means one thing,,,Crap FEEL...

And we have a winner! A number 1 bright guy here!

Fedace
01-25-2010, 05:36 PM
And we have a winner! A number 1 bright guy here!

you agree or disagree ??

slice it
01-25-2010, 06:10 PM
Fedace,

ive been reading your posts for some while now, but I have never felt obligated to mock such obtuse answers.

Continue to do what you do.

CeeY
01-25-2010, 07:08 PM
I need a good cross with a decent amount of spin. Lux is pricey, and I cant wait until RPM Blast comes out.

Fedace
01-25-2010, 07:20 PM
I need a good cross with a decent amount of spin. Lux is pricey, and I cant wait until RPM Blast comes out.

Sorry but this is a Premium poly and it will be just as or little more expensive than Pro Hurr tour, i imagine...

Fedace
01-25-2010, 07:20 PM
and Who were the Idiots that said this is a BLACK Pro Hurr Tour for last 6 weeks?????????????????

star 5 15
01-25-2010, 07:29 PM
I need a good cross with a decent amount of spin. Lux is pricey, and I cant wait until RPM Blast comes out.

don't expect this to be any cheaper than luxilon.

Fedace
01-25-2010, 07:30 PM
don't expect this to be any cheaper than luxilon.

wonder if this will be a Improvement over Pro hurr Tour ?? if so, it should go right up to one of the top Polys ever produced up to date ? I know Pro hurr tour had some mixed reviews but overall most feel it was a great poly. :)

star 5 15
01-25-2010, 07:35 PM
wonder if this will be a Improvement over Pro hurr Tour ?? if so, it should go right up to one of the top Polys ever produced up to date ? I know Pro hurr tour had some mixed reviews but overall most feel it was a great poly. :)

i dont know why your critiquing a string so closely that all you know about it is that is black and the name of it. Just take a chill pill and play with it when you come out. I really don't quite understand you Fedace.

Fedace
01-26-2010, 05:05 AM
Has anyone have a sample of this from Babolat and have Tested it already ??? I hear so many people getting a sample somehow

star 5 15
01-26-2010, 11:50 AM
Has anyone have a sample of this from Babolat and have Tested it already ??? I hear so many people getting a sample somehow

I don't know who you've heard has gotten samples of this string to try but, I am sponsored by Babolat and I tried the Revenge about 5 months before release but I have not heard of any juniors that I know sponsored getting any to try as well.

AeroBroDrive
01-26-2010, 06:35 PM
Holy crap,,,,, the Shape of the string is rough. it is some sold of hexoagonal or Octagonal........ That means one thing,,,Crap FEEL...

dude on the video it looks like it's supposed to have the same shape as PHT.

Puddy
01-26-2010, 11:05 PM
I just spoke with two TW buyers, four executives at Babolat and seven guys who work at the Lyon, France processing plant and they all agree that the new RPM is much better than last year's PHT. :)

Eiffel59
01-27-2010, 02:57 AM
Very good one indeed..and CURIOUSLY similar to Topspin's new Cyber Rotation... :rolleyes:

Blade0324
01-27-2010, 06:15 AM
Very good one indeed..and CURIOUSLY similar to Topspin's new Cyber Rotation... :rolleyes:

So you have some experience with it then?

VamosSR
01-27-2010, 05:45 PM
I really don't think the video posted is official.. The photos and actual video are bad quality and the slide & text transitions are those found in the most basic video-editing softwares. Just FYI, so you don't base your opinions of the new string on what I believe to be a "fan-made" youtube video.. I'm awaiting the official update from Babolat before judging anything, but I do hope the RPM string is released on Monday so those ordering the new APDGT can have it as an option..

jackcrawford
01-28-2010, 04:29 AM
and Who were the Idiots that said this is a BLACK Pro Hurr Tour for last 6 weeks?????????????????They are happily claiming that Blake and Tsonga are using paintjobs since pros never switch racquets...

jackcrawford
01-28-2010, 04:30 AM
Very good one indeed..and CURIOUSLY similar to Topspin's new Cyber Rotation... :rolleyes:If you've hit with it, how does it compare to Black Code, thanks in advance.

Fedace
01-28-2010, 09:45 PM
If you've hit with it, how does it compare to Black Code, thanks in advance.

I don't think he really hit with it. This string is the most highly guarded secret since Oprah went on the diet to lose 90 lbs...

Puddy
01-28-2010, 10:35 PM
Earlier today I spoke with Celeste Brior, Babolat String Expert in Lyon, France, and she says that their RPM product is far more superior compared to Tecnifibre's Black Code and Top Spin's Cyber Rotation. Hope this helps :-?

Raymond089
01-29-2010, 03:12 AM
Of course Babolat is going to say that their product is better than any other company on the market. Its up to the customers to decide for themselves whether or not Babolat's products are better or not.

BurghKing
01-29-2010, 06:37 AM
Is the name really RPM Blast? According to the Australian Open string log, they are calling Pro Hurricane Tour Black:

http://www.baiardo.info/cms/index.php/eng/Tour/Australian-Open-2010

flashfire276
01-29-2010, 07:31 PM
Fedace is actually 100% right on what he has posted on this thread.

But let's just hope for 1 thing. I just want it to be Pro Hurricane Tour with ACTUAL feel! PHT feels like you're hitting with a board or something. Just feels dead and weak....

raging
01-30-2010, 11:15 AM
Fedace is actually 100% right on what he has posted on this thread.

But let's just hope for 1 thing. I just want it to be Pro Hurricane Tour with ACTUAL feel! PHT feels like you're hitting with a board or something. Just feels dead and weak....

PHT is supposed to be a bit deader, it has good durability and spin but NOT feel, you are better off with revenge and nvy as a hybrid! PHT is for someone that has durability problems or wants to reduce the power from high speed swings. Hence the new string RPM Blast adapted for Rafa with the extreme spin rotation he gets on the ball - it can't be all things though so don't expect great touch and feel.
PHT Black and RPM Blast are 2 very different strings but still both polys so again we can't expect so much.

Eiffel59
01-30-2010, 10:38 PM
Puddy, from the first tests RPM is ACTUALLY superior to BC & CR...spin, speed, comfort (for a poly) and playability...not (yet) tested enough for life expectancy, and price should be on the "high" side...

VamosSR
01-31-2010, 01:21 AM
no release date yet?? =/

Puddy
01-31-2010, 10:42 PM
Puddy, from the first tests RPM is ACTUALLY superior to BC & CR...spin, speed, comfort (for a poly) and playability...not (yet) tested enough for life expectancy, and price should be on the "high" side...

Hey Eiffel59,

Aside from durability or "life expectancy," is this not what I mentioned earlier? All good, brother. :)

VamosSR
02-01-2010, 09:49 AM
a friend of mine said he saw online somewhere that they won't be released until April.. what a bummer, I was gonna string a new APDGT with them.

Nanshiki
02-01-2010, 01:24 PM
I wish they had dropped the ******** 'octagon" shape since shaped strings don't have better spin, and the PHT's 'octagon' shape is really just a circle that isn't round.

Fedace
02-02-2010, 04:13 PM
When is this coming out ??????/ I am sick and tired of waiting... supposed best poly ever produced by babolat,,isn't it ?

Fedace
02-02-2010, 04:16 PM
PHT is supposed to be a bit deader, it has good durability and spin but NOT feel, you are better off with revenge and nvy as a hybrid! PHT is for someone that has durability problems or wants to reduce the power from high speed swings. Hence the new string RPM Blast adapted for Rafa with the extreme spin rotation he gets on the ball - it can't be all things though so don't expect great touch and feel.
PHT Black and RPM Blast are 2 very different strings but still both polys so again we can't expect so much.

I think Revenge is a copycat to Kirsch Proline 2. But Proline 2 being better string of the two.:)

Fedace
02-02-2010, 04:17 PM
Puddy, from the first tests RPM is ACTUALLY superior to BC & CR...spin, speed, comfort (for a poly) and playability...not (yet) tested enough for life expectancy, and price should be on the "high" side...

If RPM has better feel than PHT then this string will be the GOD of all Polys. Cause PHT is a great string except that it lacks Feel and touch. PHT freshly strung has plenty of power and Mondo Spin. It just lacks feel.:-?

Ookie Cookie
02-02-2010, 06:38 PM
I just recieved a string through the USRSA playstesters program, and it is a black poly that apparently has not been released to the public. Could this be the infamous RPM??

Fedace
02-02-2010, 06:42 PM
I just recieved a string through the USRSA playstesters program, and it is a black poly that apparently has not been released to the public. Could this be the infamous RPM??

or it could be just a Black Pro hurr tour ???

raging
02-03-2010, 05:12 AM
or it could be just a Black Pro hurr tour ???

No, this would probably be too late, sounds like Racquet Specialists and Stringers are getting samples first. Maybe Eiffel or Puddy have heard more?
I could phone Babolat France but I have already been enough of a nuisance.:twisted:

Blade0324
02-03-2010, 06:36 AM
Not to get off topic but for Fedace, I'm curious what it is about pro line II that you like so well and also curious if you like BC or spikey shark. I've thought about proline II but have been reluctant. Now seeing your posts about strings that you like having more feel I think that I would not like this one as I am the opposite and do not like any feel at all in a string. I like the string bed to feel like I'm not hitting the ball at all. Stiff and boardy is a great stringbed to me.

TW Staff
02-03-2010, 07:26 AM
Hey Guys,

Our Babolat representative informed us this week that we should receive RPM Blast around April 1st. We haven't received any samples of it yet, but when we do, we will provide some feedback for you.

Danny, TW

raging
02-03-2010, 09:51 AM
Hey Guys,

Our Babolat representative informed us this week that we should receive RPM Blast around April 1st. We haven't received any samples of it yet, but when we do, we will provide some feedback for you.

Danny, TW

Thanks for info, samples are floating around the world: France, UK, Australia but appreciate the info on US release. If it lives up to the hype - could be a good seller but it won't be cheap. We are all interested about the playing characteristics.

The Young'n
02-03-2010, 10:50 AM
and Who were the Idiots that said this is a BLACK Pro Hurr Tour for last 6 weeks?????????????????

Listen up! It is black hurricane tour! I've talked to the rep and he says to keep it on the DL but all it is Hurricane tour with a new name and color. Hint I still has the hexagonal shape

The Young'n
02-03-2010, 11:02 AM
Hah, my bad, I meant octagonal

raging
02-03-2010, 12:28 PM
Hah, my bad, I meant octagonal

There are 2 separate strings PHT black , which is scheduled for release in europe in 2 weeks and RPM blast which was used as prototype at Oz Open and is being released in April , Babolat France have already confirmed that Nadal and Tsonga are using the blast in different gauges.

So your rep has another story...

JT_2eighty
02-03-2010, 01:14 PM
supposed best poly ever produced by babolat,,isn't it ?

Who is making this claim, "best ever"? In the same way that many pros just use paintjobs for advertising sake, who's to say they don't do the same with strings? The way everyone here is getting caught up in the hype is a bit silly. I wouldn't be surprised if Nadal is still using Duralast, just painted yellow before and now black. Please everyone relax until April, save your breath and work on your technique!

TennezSport
02-03-2010, 01:38 PM
From what we have been hearing, this will be Babolat's premier poly string designed to produce more spin, hold tension better and last longer. However the statement of "Unique Feel" has us a bit worried. Either way it may be a little pricey at first.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:

ClubHoUno
02-03-2010, 08:33 PM
From what we have been hearing, this will be Babolat's premier poly string designed to produce more spin, hold tension better and last longer. However the statement of "Unique Feel" has us a bit worried. Either way it may be a little pricey at first.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:

So my guess is that the RPM Blast will be priced in the Luxilon M2 Pro range, which is $20 a set......

Fedace
02-03-2010, 09:07 PM
From what we have been hearing, this will be Babolat's premier poly string designed to produce more spin, hold tension better and last longer. However the statement of "Unique Feel" has us a bit worried. Either way it may be a little pricey at first.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:

Price doesn't concern me, but Unique feel must mean Good feel since Roddick, Tsonga, and Nadal has all switched....right ?

Blade0324
02-04-2010, 06:05 AM
By unique feel I can only hope that it means that they feel like they are puncturing the ball to generate great spin while the string bed feels like it is a solid board and doesn't give.

Fedace
02-04-2010, 06:14 AM
Listen up! It is black hurricane tour! I've talked to the rep and he says to keep it on the DL but all it is Hurricane tour with a new name and color. Hint I still has the hexagonal shape

Then that rep has no idea what is talking about,,does he ? Rafa Nadal has tried Hurr tour several times in the past and he had decided not to use it. So they paint the string black and all of sudden he changes his mind ??? I don't think so.:???:

MethodTennis
02-04-2010, 08:58 AM
Then that rep has no idea what is talking about,,does he ? Rafa Nadal has tried Hurr tour several times in the past and he had decided not to use it. So they paint the string black and all of sudden he changes his mind ??? I don't think so.:???:

Im sure that all the main tour players for babolat were using this before the AO to try it and see if they like it but during the AO they would have probably decided they didnt like it and switched back to dyed strings and there is no way in hell roddick would be playing with out his nat gut crosses

Nanshiki
02-04-2010, 09:11 AM
He WAS using the natural gut crosses... if you had paid attention.

The commentators (P-Mac and BG) even mentioned that during one match with the rain delay, since he rushed to put his racquets in the bag.

Fedace
02-04-2010, 09:22 AM
Im sure that all the main tour players for babolat were using this before the AO to try it and see if they like it but during the AO they would have probably decided they didnt like it and switched back to dyed strings and there is no way in hell roddick would be playing with out his nat gut crosses

It is different material than what is used to Pro Hurr tour, so that is what makes the string different. the shape of the string being same is just a co-incidence.

The Young'n
02-04-2010, 12:07 PM
Then that rep has no idea what is talking about,,does he ? Rafa Nadal has tried Hurr tour several times in the past and he had decided not to use it. So they paint the string black and all of sudden he changes his mind ??? I don't think so.:???:

Its probably duralast painted black. I can't believe nadal switching at all

Fedace
02-04-2010, 05:46 PM
Its probably duralast painted black. I can't believe nadal switching at all

he said he switched in front of entire Rod Laver stadium. must be truth

Eiffel59
02-04-2010, 09:00 PM
As of today, sales rep not yet accept orders for RPM, but PHT Black is available in stock.
A german site publicize THIS as "RPM BLAST"...
http://i48.tinypic.com/9id9bm.jpg
so what? The one our top juniors are testing is clearly NOT the same string...:confused:

Fedace
02-05-2010, 02:01 AM
As of today, sales rep not yet accept orders for RPM, but PHT Black is available in stock.
A german site publicize THIS as "RPM BLAST"...
http://i48.tinypic.com/9id9bm.jpg
so what? The one our top juniors are testing is clearly NOT the same string...:confused:

This is NOT RPM blast.

VamosSR
02-05-2010, 03:07 AM
BABOLAT just posed a video about RPM BLAST strings with MOST of the details! Interviews with Tsonga, Roddick, and Nadal mean they are "supposedly" using these strings...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2FSLeBBac

josh91
02-05-2010, 06:16 AM
As of today, sales rep not yet accept orders for RPM, but PHT Black is available in stock.
A german site publicize THIS as "RPM BLAST"...
http://i48.tinypic.com/9id9bm.jpg
so what? The one our top juniors are testing is clearly NOT the same string...:confused:

Do you mean there are some stores in Europe how already sell this string, called PHT Black?

The Young'n
02-05-2010, 07:28 AM
he said he switched in front of entire Rod Laver stadium. must be truth


Just cuz that's what he said doesn't mean its the truth. Babolats jus paying him out of his ss to say that.

raging
02-05-2010, 09:10 AM
Just cuz that's what he said doesn't mean its the truth. Babolats jus paying him out of his ss to say that.

Relax guys, it has nothing to do with the rumour that Nadal, Tsonga, Roddick all used Blast , said they were using it. still no proof. saw reports from stringing room that PHT Black was on packaging but no photos!!:

RPM Blast is apparently being distributed all over Europe to pro players, top juniors, coaches etc...for hitting, testing..just to spread the message. Babolat tell the story softly...give it to a few players to try, get feedback, scheduled release is still april 2010. They are going to release more on website in the next week.

we must wait.....

Blu_bomber
02-05-2010, 01:02 PM
Im sure that all the main tour players for babolat were using this before the AO to try it and see if they like it but during the AO they would have probably decided they didnt like it and switched back to dyed strings and there is no way in hell roddick would be playing with out his nat gut crosses

He is still playing with his nat gut crosses but the RPM Blast (or dyed string) on the mains.

Blu_bomber
02-05-2010, 01:08 PM
he said he switched in front of entire Rod Laver stadium. must be truth

I agree, Nadal wouldn't lie blatantly in front of that many people.

Fedace
02-05-2010, 03:41 PM
I agree, Nadal wouldn't lie blatantly in front of that many people.

Agree, Nadal is one of the only truly honest player left in the tour today.:)

Fedace
02-05-2010, 03:50 PM
BABOLAT just posed a video about RPM BLAST strings with MOST of the details! Interviews with Tsonga, Roddick, and Nadal mean they are "supposedly" using these strings...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2FSLeBBac

Tsonga States " I can really scratch the ball, i could never do this before, and this is very important to me". :???: Now does he mean Tennis balls ??? I have to consult Dr. Ruth again on this one......:confused:

Eiffel59
02-06-2010, 04:09 AM
Fedace, that is BLATANTLY NOT RPM Blast since the package says Pro Hurricane...I thought you'd read it :shock:

And, raging, you are perfectly right....:)

Blu_bomber
02-06-2010, 10:41 AM
Agree, Nadal is one of the only truly honest player left in the tour today.:)

Thankfully! :)

Fedace
02-06-2010, 04:49 PM
I hope they make the RPM blast in red color as well. i love Red strings...

Steezmuffin
02-06-2010, 05:23 PM
So are they coming out with RPM blast in black and PHT in black?

Fedace
02-07-2010, 06:18 PM
So did we finally decide that RPM blast is NOT pro hurr tour in black ???

raging
02-07-2010, 11:21 PM
well I was always clear on that...still waiting for samples.

LPShanet
02-08-2010, 08:08 AM
Retail availability is expected to be some time in April, with a list price of around $16.95 US.

VamosSR
02-08-2010, 08:43 AM
It's definitely April 2010, but $16.95?? That seems fairer than expected, not that I'm complaining or anything..

Fedace
02-08-2010, 02:42 PM
well I was always clear on that...still waiting for samples.

clear on it how ? you mean you always knew this wasn't the pro hurr tour in black color ?

Fedace
02-08-2010, 02:43 PM
It's definitely April 2010, but $16.95?? That seems fairer than expected, not that I'm complaining or anything..

It is still more expensive than the Pro Hurr tour. but then if it plays much better than the PHT then it is worth the money. i would pay for it even if it is $25

Big_Dangerous
02-08-2010, 09:49 PM
Retail availability is expected to be some time in April, with a list price of around $16.95 US.

Wow that's not bad at all. Only like 2 bucks more than PHT.

I'm definitely highly anticipating the release of these.

When I watched that video on youtube and then found out they aren't going to be released until April I was pretty disappointed.

raging
02-09-2010, 02:40 AM
Wow that's not bad at all. Only like 2 bucks more than PHT.

I'm definitely highly anticipating the release of these.

When I watched that video on youtube and then found out they aren't going to be released until April I was pretty disappointed.

Yes it will take a while till it hits the stores...

Babolat UK still working on UK pricing. Does anybody have euro pricing? france, italy??
No samples as yet here but Oz is humming...any feedback from france,italy, belgium..eiffel? ericcson?

VamosSR
02-09-2010, 12:13 PM
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/VamosSR/RPMBlast.jpg

Sublime
02-09-2010, 12:30 PM
Looks like blue gear... in black.

Blue gear isn't the cog shape that is pictured on its package... it's actually the flower shape pictured on the PHT package. PHT on the other hand is just an octagon.

Fedace
02-09-2010, 03:32 PM
Looks like blue gear... in black.

Blue gear isn't the cog shape that is pictured on its package... it's actually the flower shape pictured on the PHT package. PHT on the other hand is just an octagon.

Yea, its going to raise your level by 2 levels.

mindgrinder
02-09-2010, 05:37 PM
the shape and pattern is same as PHT only thing is diff as per there video is some other material used to make the poly.

raging
02-09-2010, 11:34 PM
the shape and pattern is same as PHT only thing is diff as per there video is some other material used to make the poly.

yes and it has silicone coating to make the crosses "scratch" across the mains!
Everybody is talking...but WE will still have to wait.
It will be limited supply at first to see how it sells.
some pros are wrapped!

popeye
02-10-2010, 12:37 AM
It seems antoher Luxilonaddict changed...
Have you seen Stosur during the Fed Cup against Spain ?

Arvid
02-10-2010, 01:07 PM
In another thread a guy has bought Nadals racket in an auction for charity, and on the strings of that racket you can see it says pro hurricane tour.......so what is it really? RPM blast and pro hurricant tour the same or just Nadal using pro hurricant tour instead of rpm blast that everyone seems to suggest hes using??

The thread http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=310286

Steezmuffin
02-10-2010, 01:48 PM
In another thread a guy has bought Nadals racket in an auction for charity, and on the strings of that racket you can see it says pro hurricane tour.......so what is it really? RPM blast and pro hurricant tour the same or just Nadal using pro hurricant tour instead of rpm blast that everyone seems to suggest hes using??

The thread http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=310286

It's paintjobbed duralast.

VamosSR
02-10-2010, 03:10 PM
I don't think it's PJed Duralast.. I'm pretty sure he's switched strings. but from past experience I do not think we can trust that it's really what is written on the string.

Chezbeeno
02-10-2010, 06:06 PM
I just got a sample of what I'm almost positive is RPM Blast, a Babolat-sponsored touring pro (can't remember his name but he is actually sponsored by Babolat which makes me think this is legit) came to the academy I go to and he had a ton of sample packages of a black Babolat string that he says is the string Nadal, Tsonga, Roddick, etc.. switched to. The package is just a plastic box with a sticker that says B-432C and then it says the gauge (16). All it says on the string itself is "Babolat" nothing else. Now I'm ordinarily a Luxilon man but I might give this a try, seeing as I have a sample I might as well, anyways, I'll post a review in a couple of weeks

raging
02-11-2010, 03:10 AM
I just got a sample of what I'm almost positive is RPM Blast, a Babolat-sponsored touring pro (can't remember his name but he is actually sponsored by Babolat which makes me think this is legit) came to the academy I go to and he had a ton of sample packages of a black Babolat string that he says is the string Nadal, Tsonga, Roddick, etc.. switched to. The package is just a plastic box with a sticker that says B-432C and then it says the gauge (16). All it says on the string itself is "Babolat" nothing else. Now I'm ordinarily a Luxilon man but I might give this a try, seeing as I have a sample I might as well, anyways, I'll post a review in a couple of weeks

could be RPM Blast, heard it was floating around in sample boxes at Oz Open..because they hadn't finished packaging.
Latest from account manager Babolat is that it will be limited release(short supply) in April and quantity release in June!
String it up and have fun...:)

Shaolin
03-03-2010, 04:56 PM
Has anyone here hit with this yet?

raging
03-03-2010, 11:13 PM
Has anyone here hit with this yet?

No, lots of reported sightings but no action! :evil:

djwurm
03-04-2010, 07:44 AM
I got a sample last night. Just strung it up in my new Special Edition Pure Drive I got as well...

Have pics but no memory card reader till I get home later...

Shaolin
03-04-2010, 07:54 AM
I got a sample last night. Just strung it up in my new Special Edition Pure Drive I got as well...

Have pics but no memory card reader till I get home later...



Can you just post on how it plays? I dont really care how it looks.

djwurm
03-04-2010, 08:10 AM
Can you just post on how it plays? I dont really care how it looks.

What if I do both? I am sure a few people besides yourself would love to see it especially on a SE Pure Drive.

I just took it off my stringer about 30 minutes ago, will not hit until later today.

downs_chris
03-04-2010, 09:12 AM
What if I do both? I am sure a few people besides yourself would love to see it especially on a SE Pure Drive.

I just took it off my stringer about 30 minutes ago, will not hit until later today.

i have a pack coming in the mail...i'm curious about your review though...

djwurm
03-04-2010, 09:15 AM
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=302791&page=

Post 83 and 84 for those of you that want pictures of the RPM Blast in the SE Pure Drive

Shaolin
03-04-2010, 09:22 AM
What if I do both? I am sure a few people besides yourself would love to see it especially on a SE Pure Drive.

I just took it off my stringer about 30 minutes ago, will not hit until later today.



That would be cool. Really looking forward to hearing about how these play.

Fedace
03-04-2010, 02:45 PM
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/VamosSR/RPMBlast.jpg

It saids Power. Does that mean it is a very powerful string ??

djwurm
03-04-2010, 06:03 PM
only got to hit for 30 minutes today but here is my initial impression based of my normal mains of Pro Hurricane Tour.

Normal Setup is:
Pure Drive GT
PHT/Addiction or Xcel crosses 60 lbs

Power: Definitely more power than PHT. I string PHT on my Pure Drives at 60 and so I did the same with this. I was hitting the balls pretty deep but right on the line or over it. I need to string this a few lbs tighter next time. Serves were a little more poppy than normal.

Spin: Very spin friendly. I noticed that on my serves I was able to kick it out a little more. On my backhands I usually hit pretty heavy topspin and I had to flatten it out a tad as I was hitting the tape more than I usually do. My hitting partner noticed more topspin on my balls than normal.

Feel: Did not notice any difference on this than PHT.

Overall I was impressed with it and will definitely start playing with this over PHT. I still wonder about tension loss though.... But being a stringer and Babolat sponsored I wont worry about it to much! :)

Fedace
03-04-2010, 06:28 PM
^^^If this is More powerful than the PHT then how the heck does the Pros using this control it ???? PHT is fairly powerful as is. Maybe they can produce more spin so they can keep it in that way ??? I sure hope this will come in 17 G and 18 G as well................................I am gonna kill all the 5.0 guys with this string.....

djwurm
03-04-2010, 06:49 PM
^^^If this is More powerful than the PHT then how the heck does the Pros using this control it ???? PHT is fairly powerful as is. Maybe they can produce more spin so they can keep it in that way ???

Maybe thats why they are pros and we arent :)

I will hit a few more times with this set before cutting it out and stringing the next set at a higher tension. Maybe it was just a fluke or me imagining things in my head cause of the expectations I had from reading all about this awesome string..

Shaolin
03-04-2010, 07:11 PM
Thanks for the review. I hope you post another review after you have tried the higher tension (and the tension you used)..

raging
03-05-2010, 02:39 AM
only got to hit for 30 minutes today but here is my initial impression based of my normal mains of Pro Hurricane Tour.

Normal Setup is:
Pure Drive GT
PHT/Addiction or Xcel crosses 60 lbs

Power: Definitely more power than PHT. I string PHT on my Pure Drives at 60 and so I did the same with this. I was hitting the balls pretty deep but right on the line or over it. I need to string this a few lbs tighter next time. Serves were a little more poppy than normal.

Spin: Very spin friendly. I noticed that on my serves I was able to kick it out a little more. On my backhands I usually hit pretty heavy topspin and I had to flatten it out a tad as I was hitting the tape more than I usually do. My hitting partner noticed more topspin on my balls than normal.

Feel: Did not notice any difference on this than PHT.

Overall I was impressed with it and will definitely start playing with this over PHT. I still wonder about tension loss though.... But being a stringer and Babolat sponsored I wont worry about it to much! :)

Nice feedback, review. Did you put Xcel in the crosses?

(I am also with babolat in another country, still waiting for samples!):(

It is just a matter of time though!:)

djwurm
03-05-2010, 06:03 AM
Nice feedback, review. Did you put Xcel in the crosses?

(I am also with babolat in another country, still waiting for samples!):(

It is just a matter of time though!:)

yes the crosses are Xcel

raging
03-05-2010, 11:34 AM
so the next step would be to combine RPM with VS crosses! :twisted:

djwurm
03-05-2010, 01:16 PM
so the next step would be to combine RPM with VS crosses! :twisted:

Yes you are correct... I actually have a set of VS but I thought to do a base line test I needed to use Xcel in the crosses (which is what I normally hybrid PHT with).

Once I cut these out I will probably put the VS in the crosses.

DownTheLine
03-05-2010, 01:22 PM
Wow that's not bad at all. Only like 2 bucks more than PHT.

I'm definitely highly anticipating the release of these.

When I watched that video on youtube and then found out they aren't going to be released until April I was pretty disappointed.

Yea it's not bad if you only go through 2 string jobs a month, but if you go through 3-5 a week it's terrible. Exactly why I went away from ALU POWER.

Viking_Golfer
03-05-2010, 06:09 PM
^^^If this is More powerful than the PHT then how the heck does the Pros using this control it ???? PHT is fairly powerful as is. Maybe they can produce more spin so they can keep it in that way ??? I sure hope this will come in 17 G and 18 G as well................................I am gonna kill all the 5.0 guys with this string.....

Alu Power is very powerful too and the pros love it too :twisted:

I will kill all the 5.5 guys without this string - I will continue to dominate with VS Team 17 mains and WeissCannon Silverstring 1.20 crosses......yeahhhh :twisted:

Tennis_Crazed
03-06-2010, 02:26 AM
What if I do both? I am sure a few people besides yourself would love to see it especially on a SE Pure Drive.

I just took it off my stringer about 30 minutes ago, will not hit until later today.

let us know how it plays!

Fedace
03-06-2010, 02:23 PM
Yes you are correct... I actually have a set of VS but I thought to do a base line test I needed to use Xcel in the crosses (which is what I normally hybrid PHT with).

Once I cut these out I will probably put the VS in the crosses.

I say try this with X-1 biphase. it could be a match made in heaven.:)

tennisman1636
03-07-2010, 01:45 PM
How much will they cost?

Fedace
03-07-2010, 05:18 PM
How much will they cost?

Noone knows. maybe around $16 - $17. but even Federer has switched. It must be made of magic or something.......I have no idea what makes this string so much better than all others like Luxilon and so on.

Tennis_Crazed
03-07-2010, 05:22 PM
Noone knows. maybe around $16 - $17. but even Federer has switched. It must be made of magic or something.......I have no idea what makes this string so much better than all others like Luxilon and so on.

Federer is using a babolot string?

VamosSR
03-07-2010, 06:33 PM
Noone knows. maybe around $16 - $17. but even Federer has switched. It must be made of magic or something.......I have no idea what makes this string so much better than all others like Luxilon and so on.

Federer using RPM Blast? :confused: Where'd you get that from? :-?

Fedace
03-07-2010, 06:35 PM
Federer using RPM Blast? :confused: Where'd you get that from? :-?

I saw it in the PIC in another thread

staedtler
03-07-2010, 06:44 PM
I saw it in the PIC in another thread

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1482789/fed.jpg

Fedace if youre talking about this pic, that isnt Fed's racquet. Thats Peterfig's racquet as he was making a comparison between his racquet and Priority One's racquets.

Jakedasnake
03-08-2010, 04:02 PM
lol at fedace's massive fail

Fedace
03-09-2010, 05:06 PM
If it wasn't for the contract with Wilson, Fed would be using this string too.

staedtler
03-10-2010, 06:42 AM
Although I am curious as everyone else is. I wanna try these strings out. Ive been using black code, and I like it. But I wish itd just last a little longer. So Im hoping RPM Blast is the trick.

Chezbeeno
03-10-2010, 07:45 AM
Although I am curious as everyone else is. I wanna try these strings out. Ive been using black code, and I like it. But I wish itd just last a little longer. So Im hoping RPM Blast is the trick.

RPM Blast is practically the same thing, Babolat copied Tecnifibre, at least this is what a very reliable source told me

drakulie
03-10-2010, 07:52 AM
I here it is PHT painted black, and a new name.

Suppose we will all find out soon enough.

arche3
03-10-2010, 08:10 AM
well my bit of gossip is this. I just picked up my rackets from a restring. the guy at the shop said RPM blast is in early May, he just ordered it from the Babolat rep (NJ area) and it should be in around then the guy said.

The rep also told him that PHT in black is NOT going to be made. As it was planned. They changed their mind.
Also the guy said RPM blast is a new string and that will be the only new poly black string coming out from them.

I just want to try the string and see what the hype is all about.

raging
03-10-2010, 12:29 PM
well my bit of gossip is this. I just picked up my rackets from a restring. the guy at the shop said RPM blast is in early May, he just ordered it from the Babolat rep (NJ area) and it should be in around then the guy said.

The rep also told him that PHT in black is NOT going to be made. As it was planned. They changed their mind.
Also the guy said RPM blast is a new string and that will be the only new poly black string coming out from them.

I just want to try the string and see what the hype is all about.

WE will all have to wait, it will be a very late release.(It was planned for May release RG , then the players got on the RPM bandwagon, now PHT black will not be produced)
Your rumours may well be right!
It has gone very quiet at Babolat but they have issued a press release to german customers that PHT Black will not be released as planned.
RPM Blast is now pushed forward to April.
Maybe somebody with "french connections" can ask Babolat France , I know they have been rushing RPM through, I have a sample of PHT black but it may become a collector's item.:)
I understand the confusion but RPM Blast is a totally different string, PHT in Black is exactly the same construction as PHT gold.

Fedace
03-10-2010, 02:24 PM
RPM Blast is practically the same thing, Babolat copied Tecnifibre, at least this is what a very reliable source told me

NOT EVEN Close. Completely different Material + different outer coating and it is Patented.

mikro112
03-10-2010, 03:46 PM
NOT EVEN Close. Completely different Material + different outer coating and it is Patented.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/mikro112/a016bfe7.png

Ivan Lendl's Backhand
03-11-2010, 03:27 PM
The $64,000 question, which no one seems to have asked, is what guages they're likely to be producing this string in.

If its only 1.25 and 1.30 thats going to suck!

Any info?

vsgut
03-11-2010, 05:26 PM
The string Querry (all B432C)and Sharpova (Gut and B 432C were using in Memphis was Black and had the Code on the reel B432C. The string was a Babolat black string/ See the GSS boards talking about Memphis.

Chezbeeno
03-11-2010, 06:45 PM
NOT EVEN Close. Completely different Material + different outer coating and it is Patented.

what I meant was:they're both a black, five-sided string coming from a French company, I never said it was the exact same thing

decades
03-11-2010, 06:47 PM
there is a new gen of poly coming from everybody. just be patient.

Fedace
03-11-2010, 09:25 PM
The $64,000 question, which no one seems to have asked, is what guages they're likely to be producing this string in.

If its only 1.25 and 1.30 thats going to suck!

Any info?

I think only in 16 and 17 gauge like pro hurr tour. i just don't think they will make a 18g string cause 5 sided string like this, it is very difficult to make that thin......i heard...:???:

Blade0324
03-12-2010, 10:38 AM
16 and 17 is really all that's needed IMO. Anything other than that is kind of a waste.

Fedace
03-12-2010, 10:17 PM
16 and 17 is really all that's needed IMO. Anything other than that is kind of a waste.

I actually like 18 G in the poly string. Just cause i get little feel out of 18 g. polys lack feel anyway and thinner gauge seem to help a little bit.

TearSNFX
03-13-2010, 08:14 AM
Hello everyone, I was fortunate enough to test these strings. I was given a set and was requested to write a detailed review about the strings to the rep. The strings I were given were 16G.

I'll just summarize the first couple days while using the strings.

First impression was, the strings are very sensitive and responsive. I believe this string will be a deadly weapon for advanced players.

It took about 2 days to get " familiar " with the strings behavior but once accustomed to them it feels very nice.

I can visually see higher bounces and more kick on my serves. It is also elbow friendly. I occasionally suffer from Tennis Elbow when I am experimenting with strings and so far I don't have symptoms. I compared the string to luxilon rough 16L and in my personal experience I feel there is more access to spin / control / feel with the RPM Blast. This coming week I plan to compare 3 racquets with Natural 17 VS on the mains and the crosses with Rough 16L / Pro Hurricane Tour / RPM Blast and I'll let you guys know about my findings at my personal level.

TearSNFX
03-13-2010, 08:16 AM
The $64,000 question, which no one seems to have asked, is what guages they're likely to be producing this string in.

If its only 1.25 and 1.30 thats going to suck!

Any info?

It was implied 16 and 17 will be made.

Fedace
03-13-2010, 08:23 AM
Hello everyone, I was fortunate enough to test these strings. I was given a set and was requested to write a detailed review about the strings to the rep. The strings I were given were 16G.

I'll just summarize the first couple days while using the strings.

First impression was, the strings are very sensitive and responsive. I believe this string will be a deadly weapon for advanced players.

It took about 2 days to get " familiar " with the strings behavior but once accustomed to them it feels very nice.

I can visually see higher bounces and more kick on my serves. It is also elbow friendly. I occasionally suffer from Tennis Elbow when I am experimenting with strings and so far I don't have symptoms. I compared the string to luxilon rough 16L and in my personal experience I feel there is more access to spin / control / feel with the RPM Blast. This coming week I plan to compare 3 racquets with Natural 17 VS on the mains and the crosses with Rough 16L / Pro Hurricane Tour / RPM Blast and I'll let you guys know about my findings at my personal level.

Which one has more power, Pro hurr tour or RPM blast ???

TearSNFX
03-13-2010, 09:03 AM
Which one has more power, Pro hurr tour or RPM blast ???

I'll let you know this coming week I plan to string the 3 new racquets this coming Wednesday or Thursday.

mindgrinder
03-13-2010, 04:58 PM
Hello everyone, I was fortunate enough to test these strings. I was given a set and was requested to write a detailed review about the strings to the rep. The strings I were given were 16G.

I'll just summarize the first couple days while using the strings.

First impression was, the strings are very sensitive and responsive. I believe this string will be a deadly weapon for advanced players.

It took about 2 days to get " familiar " with the strings behavior but once accustomed to them it feels very nice.

I can visually see higher bounces and more kick on my serves. It is also elbow friendly. I occasionally suffer from Tennis Elbow when I am experimenting with strings and so far I don't have symptoms. I compared the string to luxilon rough 16L and in my personal experience I feel there is more access to spin / control / feel with the RPM Blast. This coming week I plan to compare 3 racquets with Natural 17 VS on the mains and the crosses with Rough 16L / Pro Hurricane Tour / RPM Blast and I'll let you guys know about my findings at my personal level.
nice looking forward to a detailed review..my babolat rep told in India that strings here will be launched in June 2010, aero pro GT was a month late so same i guess goes for RPM blast

tennis005
03-13-2010, 05:02 PM
It was implied 16 and 17 will be made.

I hope a 17L or 18 is made.

Fedace
03-13-2010, 05:50 PM
I hope a 17L or 18 is made.

i am hoping for 18 g myself. but i highly doubt it since these octagonal shaped strings, it is very difficult to make thin cause inner part would be like 20 G when all is said and done..

JStar7
03-13-2010, 06:38 PM
I want to try this string with gut mains. It better live up to all the hype and the most likely high price tag it'll carry.

tennismsands
03-14-2010, 11:05 AM
what would you guys recommed stringing on the crosses(no natural gut) if i strung RPM Blast 16g on the mains in a Ytk Radical MP

Shaolin
03-14-2010, 11:29 AM
Hello everyone, I was fortunate enough to test these strings. I was given a set and was requested to write a detailed review about the strings to the rep. The strings I were given were 16G.

I'll just summarize the first couple days while using the strings.

First impression was, the strings are very sensitive and responsive. I believe this string will be a deadly weapon for advanced players.

It took about 2 days to get " familiar " with the strings behavior but once accustomed to them it feels very nice.

I can visually see higher bounces and more kick on my serves. It is also elbow friendly. I occasionally suffer from Tennis Elbow when I am experimenting with strings and so far I don't have symptoms. I compared the string to luxilon rough 16L and in my personal experience I feel there is more access to spin / control / feel with the RPM Blast. This coming week I plan to compare 3 racquets with Natural 17 VS on the mains and the crosses with Rough 16L / Pro Hurricane Tour / RPM Blast and I'll let you guys know about my findings at my personal level.



Thanks for posting the review. Looking forward to any more info you want to share.

Tennis_Crazed
03-14-2010, 12:15 PM
Hello everyone, I was fortunate enough to test these strings. I was given a set and was requested to write a detailed review about the strings to the rep. The strings I were given were 16G.

I'll just summarize the first couple days while using the strings.

First impression was, the strings are very sensitive and responsive. I believe this string will be a deadly weapon for advanced players.

It took about 2 days to get " familiar " with the strings behavior but once accustomed to them it feels very nice.

I can visually see higher bounces and more kick on my serves. It is also elbow friendly. I occasionally suffer from Tennis Elbow when I am experimenting with strings and so far I don't have symptoms. I compared the string to luxilon rough 16L and in my personal experience I feel there is more access to spin / control / feel with the RPM Blast. This coming week I plan to compare 3 racquets with Natural 17 VS on the mains and the crosses with Rough 16L / Pro Hurricane Tour / RPM Blast and I'll let you guys know about my findings at my personal level.


Thanks for the review. Looking forward to more thoughts. Anyone know how much its going to cost?

TearSNFX
03-14-2010, 09:28 PM
what would you guys recommed stringing on the crosses(no natural gut) if i strung RPM Blast 16g on the mains in a Ytk Radical MP

The crosses I have used are Babolat Nvy 16g.

Update on the previous setup.

Well the setup popped after 4 days of use. The crosses ( nvy ) are the ones that actually popped. The mains ( RPM Blast ) had about half left so it would more then likely have popped with 1 more use if the crosses didn't.

I usually pop strings anywhere from 2~3 days, so 1 extra day is actually anywhere from 33% to 40% durability increase. So I think there is no doubt the strings are quite durable.

The next series of tests will take some time. Since it's 3 racquets I'll be stringing.

TearSNFX
03-14-2010, 09:30 PM
Thanks for the review. Looking forward to more thoughts. Anyone know how much its going to cost?

I have a feeling one of 2 things will happen.

Hurricane Tour Pro will drop in price and the RPM Blast will take the place of the Tour . 200 some odd dollars.

or

They will increase the price of the RPM BLast to about 260 like the reel of luxilon rough 16L's.

raging
03-15-2010, 12:38 AM
I have a feeling one of 2 things will happen.

Hurricane Tour Pro will drop in price and the RPM Blast will take the place of the Tour . 200 some odd dollars.

or

They will increase the price of the RPM BLast to about 260 like the reel of luxilon rough 16L's.

Thanks for reviews, looks like Babolat have a replacement for PHT, it will just depend on price structure strategy as to how they phase it out.
RPM is supposed to give a better reel price than lux rough so we will have to see what they land it for in US.
Interest is very high in the string in europe...lots of bab players testing.
Surprised no-one has posted here.

Tennis_Crazed
03-15-2010, 01:06 AM
I have a feeling one of 2 things will happen.

Hurricane Tour Pro will drop in price and the RPM Blast will take the place of the Tour . 200 some odd dollars.

or

They will increase the price of the RPM BLast to about 260 like the reel of luxilon rough 16L's.

Will be interesting to see what they do. If its really that great would be interesting to see if people pay lux prices for it

downs_chris
03-15-2010, 03:40 AM
i also have a set, which i haven't play tested yet, because i went back to my Babolat Pure Storm Ltd GT and i'm really reluctant to put that fat, 16 guage (1.30mm) string in there...i normally do a full bed of Cyber Flash 1.20mm in the low to mid 50s...any suggestions of what i should do?

full bed of RPM Blast around 50 lbs.?
hybrid it -- RPM Blast in the mains, 50 lbs. with a soft cross?
put it in some new PT57As I have coming this week (the string pattern isn't quite as tight)?

Arvid
03-15-2010, 03:50 AM
i also have a set, which i haven't play tested yet, because i went back to my Babolat Pure Storm Ltd GT and i'm really reluctant to put that fat, 16 guage (1.30mm) string in there...i normally do a full bed of Cyber Flash 1.20mm in the low to mid 50s...any suggestions of what i should do?

full bed of RPM Blast around 50 lbs.?
hybrid it -- RPM Blast in the mains, 50 lbs. with a soft cross?
put it in some new PT57As I have coming this week (the string pattern isn't quite as tight)?

Why are you reluctant to put in youre pure storm Ldt GT? I think it would be interesting to see how the spin production would be in such a racket with this string? Pt 57A should be somewhat similar.....

downs_chris
03-15-2010, 04:03 AM
Why are you reluctant to put in youre pure storm Ldt GT? I think it would be interesting to see how the spin production would be in such a racket with this string? Pt 57A should be somewhat similar.....

i just don't really like 16 gauges in that tighter string pattern of the PSLGT -- the PT57A is a little more spread out, in my opinion...either way -- haha, i should put it in one of my racquets...since i have the PSLGT and it's raining today -- i might as well put it in there...

Arvid
03-15-2010, 05:14 AM
i just don't really like 16 gauges in that tighter string pattern of the PSLGT -- the PT57A is a little more spread out, in my opinion...either way -- haha, i should put it in one of my racquets...since i have the PSLGT and it's raining today -- i might as well put it in there...
Cool will be interesting to hear how it comes out:)

downs_chris
03-15-2010, 05:25 AM
Cool will be interesting to hear how it comes out:)

i think i'll hybrid it -- RPM Blast in the mains at 50 lbs., Babolat Xcel Power 17 in the crosses at 52 lbs...

Fedace
03-15-2010, 05:40 AM
Is TW really sending out some samples of RPM blast to its customers to playtest ???

downs_chris
03-15-2010, 05:49 AM
Is TW really sending out some samples of RPM blast to its customers to playtest ???

they said they can't say what it is...but we'll see when it comes in the mail :)

Fedace
03-15-2010, 06:51 AM
they said they can't say what it is...but we'll see when it comes in the mail :)

My Brilliant insights into the strings will come in handy when reviewing this new string...

TearSNFX
03-15-2010, 06:55 AM
i also have a set, which i haven't play tested yet, because i went back to my Babolat Pure Storm Ltd GT and i'm really reluctant to put that fat, 16 guage (1.30mm) string in there...i normally do a full bed of Cyber Flash 1.20mm in the low to mid 50s...any suggestions of what i should do?

full bed of RPM Blast around 50 lbs.?
hybrid it -- RPM Blast in the mains, 50 lbs. with a soft cross?
put it in some new PT57As I have coming this week (the string pattern isn't quite as tight)?

If you usually do a full bed of poly then do a full bed of blast.

Compare it to what you're used to, to get the best analysis.

downs_chris
03-15-2010, 06:57 AM
My Brilliant insights into the strings will come in handy when reviewing this new string...

haha...well, i already have one pack in hand :) we'll see what TW is sending though...maybe it's something else? (most likely not)...

downs_chris
03-15-2010, 07:00 AM
If you usually do a full bed of poly then do a full bed of blast.

Compare it to what you're used to, to get the best analysis.

yeah -- i can go both ways...lately i've been on a full bed of poly craze...but i enjoy both...

TearSNFX
03-15-2010, 07:00 AM
Tension loss for me was around 3% or so. Strung at 56 ended up around 54.

Fedace
03-15-2010, 07:03 AM
yeah -- i can go both ways...lately i've been on a full bed of poly craze...but i enjoy both...

I have watched Nadal's match and i can definitely hear the string move. It seems like the string is snapping back in place everytime nadal hits the ball. I am afraid that this string movement maybe lost if i do a hybrid with multi like X-1 biphase like i always do....:confused:

Fedace
03-15-2010, 07:04 AM
Tension loss for me was around 3% or so. Strung at 56 ended up around 54.

You can still control the shots at such low tension ??

downs_chris
03-15-2010, 07:05 AM
I have watched Nadal's match and i can definitely hear the string move. It seems like the string is snapping back in place everytime nadal hits the ball. I am afraid that this string movement maybe lost if i do a hybrid with multi like X-1 biphase like i always do....:confused:

i don't think i've ever listened for "string movement" -- but ok! he seemed to be hitting the ball pretty well though...

Fedace
03-15-2010, 07:07 AM
i don't think i've ever listened for "string movement" -- but ok! he seemed to be hitting the ball pretty well though...

Eric Babolat was saying that this string movement of snapping back energy enables you to put more spin on the ball......not sure if it is BS or what but i can definitely hear it when Nadal plays. It is Odd and kind of Annoying sound, if you are not used to it.....lol

Blade0324
03-15-2010, 09:23 AM
Watching Roddicks match last night against Lu I noticed that he is back to PHT. He must have not liked the Blast as well as others to not stay with it.

Fedace
03-15-2010, 10:04 AM
Watching Roddicks match last night against Lu I noticed that he is back to PHT. He must have not liked the Blast as well as others to not stay with it.

Probably too much power for Roddick.

Darth Federer
03-15-2010, 09:20 PM
You can still control the shots at such low tension ??

Probably too much power for Roddick.

...
are those jokes?

53 tension is too much power, too much to be able to control...?

would you mind to elaborate on that because there are many TT users
who string at extremely low tensions??

Fedace
03-15-2010, 09:28 PM
...
are those jokes?

53 tension is too much power, too much to be able to control...?

would you mind to elaborate on that because there are many TT users
who string at extremely low tensions??

Lower tension gives you more trampoline effect which gives you more power but less pinpoint control .. High tension will make the stringbed more like a board stiff and more control. that is why Pete Sampras used to string his rackets at such high tensions..

Darth Federer
03-15-2010, 09:51 PM
Lower tension gives you more trampoline effect which gives you more power but less pinpoint control .. High tension will make the stringbed more like a board stiff and more control. that is why Pete Sampras used to string his rackets at such high tensions..

yes
like i had no knowledge on strings and string tensions

what i was saying is that
how is 53 uncontrollable
unless that happenes to u
i find that hard to believe

tennis005
03-15-2010, 09:53 PM
Eric Babolat was saying that this string movement of snapping back energy enables you to put more spin on the ball......not sure if it is BS or what but i can definitely hear it when Nadal plays. It is Odd and kind of Annoying sound, if you are not used to it.....lol

It sounds like Prince Recoil string which is also supposed to provide more spin because the strings snap back into place. I tried Recoil today and it may be true. I got some pretty good spin off my shots, more so then with multis or other synthetics.

Fedace
03-15-2010, 10:14 PM
It sounds like Prince Recoil string which is also supposed to provide more spin because the strings snap back into place. I tried Recoil today and it may be true. I got some pretty good spin off my shots, more so then with multis or other synthetics.

We will see how this RPM blast could improve even the game of the amateur players. It seems to be working well for Sam querry.:)

Kam2010
03-16-2010, 04:20 AM
Im looking forward to buying a set of RPM Blast strings when available.

I've got a APDC with PHT in mains and Duralast in crosses that have been strung at 53 lbs, playing with this you definetly get more power due to it being strung at a lower tension and when playing the ball stays on the racket for longer when comparing to a higher tension strung racket.
I strung Pro Red Code on a Wilson Pro Staff just to try it out and strung at 58 I think it was straight away noticed once the ball hits the racket it shoots off giving you less time with the ball staying on the racket.

Fedace
03-16-2010, 05:00 AM
Im looking forward to buying a set of RPM Blast strings when available.

I've got a APDC with PHT in mains and Duralast in crosses that have been strung at 53 lbs, playing with this you definetly get more power due to it being strung at a lower tension and when playing the ball stays on the racket for longer when comparing to a higher tension strung racket.
I strung Pro Red Code on a Wilson Pro Staff just to try it out and strung at 58 I think it was straight away noticed once the ball hits the racket it shoots off giving you less time with the ball staying on the racket.

so you are saying that lower tension gives you more control due to the fact that it stays on the strings longer ??

mikro112
03-16-2010, 05:03 AM
they said they can't say what it is...but we'll see when it comes in the mail :)

How do you get TW to send you something? Thanks! If you don't want to post it here, just drop me an email to mikro112.2@gmail.com.

Thanks!

arche3
03-16-2010, 05:11 AM
so you are saying that lower tension gives you more control due to the fact that it stays on the strings longer ??

in my experience. lux alu has more control at a lower tension for 4 or so hours. around 54, 55 for me. at tensions around 57, 58 it has less control and spin. this is all fresh strung mind you. after 5 hours the higher tension has more control. there is definitley a more pronounced ball pocketing effect lower and i can generate more pace and precision with a apdc freshly strung with alu around 55lbs.
what i usually do is string at 57 or 58 and have it play bad (for me) for a couple matches then it settles into a lower tension until it goes dead then i restring. kinda a compromise. otherwise a fresh strung alu at 55 is too powerfull after 5 hours or so.

Fedace
03-16-2010, 06:13 AM
^^^No wonder when i strung alu power rough at 62-68 lbs, i had no control,,,just balls sailing everywhere.

drakulie
03-16-2010, 06:28 AM
they said they can't say what it is...but we'll see when it comes in the mail :)


The string sent by TW is most likely the Blast. A stringer at one of the major events back in January of this year noted so many players using a new black babolat string. He stated the only marking on the packaging was b-432C, which is the same as the packaging many of us received for the playtest. Some of the players he mentioned included Rafa, Roddick, Querey, etc.

Fedace
03-16-2010, 06:29 AM
The string sent by TW is most likely the Blast. A stringer at one of the major events back in January of this year noted so many players using a new black babolat string. He stated the only marking on the packaging was b-432C, which is the same as the packaging many of us received for the playtest. Some of the players he mentioned included Rafa, Roddick, Querey, etc.

and you said in the past that it was just a Pro hurr tour in black color. Are we thinking differently now,,,perhaps....:)

drakulie
03-16-2010, 06:31 AM
and you said in the past that it was just a Pro hurr tour in black color. Are we thinking differently now,,,perhaps....:)


I was referencing what a Babolat Rep stated,,,,,,,, that the new black string was babolat PHT painted black with a new name attached to it.

ClubHoUno
03-16-2010, 07:14 AM
in my experience. lux alu has more control at a lower tension for 4 or so hours. around 54, 55 for me. at tensions around 57, 58 it has less control and spin. this is all fresh strung mind you. after 5 hours the higher tension has more control. there is definitley a more pronounced ball pocketing effect lower and i can generate more pace and precision with a apdc freshly strung with alu around 55lbs.
what i usually do is string at 57 or 58 and have it play bad (for me) for a couple matches then it settles into a lower tension until it goes dead then i restring. kinda a compromise. otherwise a fresh strung alu at 55 is too powerfull after 5 hours or so.

If you ask a lot of experienced stringers - also guys like JayCee, TennezSport and other string guru's - they will all tell you, that you get stiff poly strings like Alu Power to lose its elasticity and good playing characteristics sooner, when you string it at too high a tension.

Pro players don't care, as they only use the same string job for max 1 hour in match play and then maybe for 30 minutes practice the next day.

But for ordinary folks, you prolong the life of Alu Power by going lower in tension. I string my Luxilon Alu Power in my crosses at only 50 lbs (98 SQ" frame) and 48 lbs (95 and 93 SQ" frame), and I feel like I get more life out of it, compared to when I strung it at 58 or 56 lbs. I still have nice control with it.

Stringing poly strings at too high tension ruins the fibres inside the string, which is why you see the recommenation for 10% lower tension on almost all poly strings these days.

When my strings lose too much tension after 4-6 hours, I install a bunch of string savers to stiffen the stringbed and raise the tension around the sweetspot a bit (I lose bit of feel from the string savers, but it's not so much as some says), and I get 2-4 hours extra life out of it....unless I broke the hybrid strings prior to that of course :p

TearSNFX
03-16-2010, 07:17 AM
You can still control the shots at such low tension ??

I've discovered over time that poly's characteristics become neutral around 52~57 anything below becomes a trampoline and anything higher becomes a wooden paddle. I strung at 56 to bring out a more neutral characteristics of the strings from personal experience. My crosses were strung at 60 to stiffen the string bed a bit. Hope this helps.



UPDATE :

Strung the racquets with VS Team 17 mains and RPM Blast / PHT / ROUGH 16L crosses last night. Review will come shortly about its performance as a cross string.

Same tension 60 main / 56 crosses ( poly's )

I'll let you guys know tonight since I will hit with it at around 2 pm today.

My expectations aren't high in terms of durability, but I have high hopes for the playability.

drakulie
03-16-2010, 07:21 AM
Stringing poly strings at too high tension ruins the fibres inside the string, which is why you see the recommenation for 10% lower tension on almost all poly strings these days.




The reason for the "10% recommendation" was because when poly first became a big deal, the string was so stiff, the manufacturers suggested this decrease in tension.

TearSNFX
03-16-2010, 07:22 AM
I was referencing what a Babolat Rep stated,,,,,,,, that the new black string was babolat PHT painted black with a new name attached to it.

You're not too far from the original plans of babolat.

They initially PLANNED to just change the string colors but in the end decided to make a new string altogether. Different core and different outer layer.

They are developing a new pro hurricane that is supposed to be kick *** for many non pro players. I have high hopes for that string as well.

ClubHoUno
03-16-2010, 07:24 AM
I've discovered over time that poly's characteristics become neutral around 52~57 anything below becomes a trampoline and anything higher becomes a wooden paddle. I strung at 56 to bring out a more neutral characteristics of the strings from personal experience. My crosses were strung at 60 to stiffen the string bed a bit. Hope this helps.



UPDATE :

Strung the racquets with VS Team 17 mains and RPM Blast / PHT / ROUGH 16L crosses last night. Review will come shortly about its performance as a cross string.

Same tension 60 main / 56 crosses ( poly's )

I'll let you guys know tonight since I will hit with it at around 2 pm today.

My expectations aren't high in terms of durability, but I have high hopes for the playability.

I think you are right, but you are far too generalizing. Oversized and midplus frames need higher tension, and smallere sized mid frames need lower tension. I never string Luxilon Alu Power over 50 lbs anymore, and to my surprise, I still get lots of control, better feel and my poly does not die as fast as it used to do, when I strung it in high 50's to low 60's and also used it in the mains.....

TearSNFX
03-16-2010, 07:24 AM
The reason for the "10% recommendation" was because when poly first became a big deal, the string was so stiff, the manufacturers suggested this decrease in tension.

luxilon is one of the stiffest poly's out there, so it might be wise to apply the 10% recommendation.

TearSNFX
03-16-2010, 07:31 AM
I think you are right, but you are far too generalizing. Oversized and midplus frames need higher tension, and smallere sized mid frames need lower tension. I never string Luxilon Alu Power over 50 lbs anymore, and to my surprise, I still get lots of control, better feel and my poly does not die as fast as it used to do, when I strung it in high 50's to low 60's and also used it in the mains.....

Please remember the key point of me mentioning " personal experience " . I've only used 3 racquets in the past.

Pro Staff 6.0 85

K90

KPS 88

drakulie
03-16-2010, 07:37 AM
luxilon is one of the stiffest poly's out there, so it might be wise to apply the 10% recommendation.


Perhaps, but contrary to what ClubHoUno stated, I was referencing why the manufacturers advised for a 10% reduction when stringing, and it ain't because the fibers stretch.

Put it this way, every package of Lux states (or stated) they recommend a 10% reduction in tension than your normal set up. How would they know everone is stringing at over 60? lbs as CHU is implying.

ClubHoUno
03-16-2010, 07:41 AM
Perhaps, but contrary to what ClubHoUno stated, I was referencing why the manufacturers advised for a 10% reduction when stringing, and it ain't because the fibers stretch.

Put it this way, every package of Lux states (or stated) they recommend a 10% reduction in tension than your normal set up. How would they know everone is stringing at over 60? lbs as CHU is implying.

I think what they mean is to go 10% lower than the tension you normally use for gut, synth. gut and multi strings.

Fedace
03-16-2010, 08:19 AM
You're not too far from the original plans of babolat.

They initially PLANNED to just change the string colors but in the end decided to make a new string altogether. Different core and different outer layer.

They are developing a new pro hurricane that is supposed to be kick *** for many non pro players. I have high hopes for that string as well.

Are you Kidding me ?? New pro hurr that is even better ??????? Is this going to be new material all over ?? different than RPM blast and old Pro hurr tour ?:confused:

drakulie
03-16-2010, 08:27 AM
I think what they mean is to go 10% lower than the tension you normally use for gut, synth. gut and multi strings.

You just listed about every string possible, which leaves us with poly. Being that Lux is a poly (stiff string), the manufacters advised to string it 10% lower than other strings. They did not advise this because the fibers stretch/break at high tensions as you suggested, rather because the string is stiff compared to other strings.

For example, a customer who strings Prince Synthetic Duraflex strung at 60 lbs will need for the poly to be strung at approx 54/55 lbs for the string-bed stiffness to feel the same. If he strung the poly at 60 lbs, it would feel like Duraflex strung at 66/67 lbs, etc.

Fedace
03-16-2010, 08:36 AM
You just listed about every string possible, which leaves us with poly. Being that Lux is a poly (stiff string), the manufacters advised to string it 10% lower than other strings. They did not advise this because the fibers stretch/break at high tensions as you suggested, rather because the string is stiff compared to other strings.

For example, a customer who strings Prince Synthetic Duraflex strung at 60 lbs will need for the poly to be strung at approx 54/55 lbs for the string-bed stiffness to feel the same. If he strung the poly at 60 lbs, it would feel like Duraflex strung at 66/67 lbs, etc.

Drak, what is the best tension for Polys like Luxilon alu power rough or Proline 2 ? i use fairly powerful frames like Babolat Pure drive GT + and yonex RQIS tour-2. and i string the poly at 64 lbs and i feel like i can control the power but the poly string goes dead quicker and NO feel. I tried high 50's like 58-60 and balls just come off the string too hot and jump off the stringbed especially when poly is new and it is difficult to control. :???:

drakulie
03-16-2010, 08:40 AM
Drak, what is the best tension for Polys

Only you could answer that question.

Seems like you don't like it when the ball "trampolines" a bit off the string bed, and feel more confident with a stiffer stringbed. One thing you could do, is go down in weight, and up in string gauge. For example, if you use 17 gauge, use a 16 gauge, and drop a few lbs. Hope this helps.

Fedace
03-16-2010, 08:47 AM
Only you could answer that question.

Seems like you don't like it when the ball "trampolines" a bit off the string bed, and feel more confident with a stiffer stringbed. One thing you could do, is go down in weight, and up in string gauge. For example, if you use 17 gauge, use a 16 gauge, and drop a few lbs. Hope this helps.

WOW,,,are you a Genius or what ??? I think you have a point. when i tried the 18g multi hybrid with Proline 2,,,it didn't work at all, just too much trampoline effect. but it was little better when i went to 17G X-1 biphase. but still little bit of issues with trampoline effect.
Reason i didn't go to 16 g yet is that i was told thicker strings have NO feel and they are heavier in weight changing the balance of the racket. but i think what you say makes perfect sense. I am going to try the 16G X-1 with 17 G Proline 2 or RPM blast and see what happens.

You are a String Genius,,,Drak. P-1 has nothing on you, guy. You should be giving them a few lessons...:)

Fedace
03-16-2010, 09:04 AM
Just one more question for Drak. Do you think lowering the gauge, ie16 G on X-1 would be enough to reduce the trampoline effect or should i go thicker on the poly too ?? I currently use 18 G Proline 2 or 17 G Pro hurr tour. Thank you sincerely, Drak.

drakulie
03-16-2010, 09:14 AM
Fed, only way to really find out is givingit a try. Everyone responds very differently.

Like you, I feel that the thinner gauges provides much more feel, and power. The down side is one typically has to go up in tension, but this results in the strings breaking quicker.

The x-1 you reference is already a very lively string, with great feel. I think going to a 16 gauge may be what you are looking for, without sacrficing the nice feel you talk about.

Fedace
03-16-2010, 09:17 AM
Fed, only way to really find out is givingit a try. Everyone responds very differently.

Like you, I feel that the thinner gauges provides much more feel, and power. The down side is one typically has to go up in tension, but this results in the strings breaking quicker.

The x-1 you reference is already a very lively string, with great feel. I think going to a 16 gauge may be what you are looking for, without sacrficing the nice feel you talk about.

You are a PURE Genius, drak. Give some of this wonderful advice to Elena, she needs it. She has been off form lately......:)

JoelDali
03-16-2010, 10:01 AM
Wow, the FedaceDrak(tm) bromance is really blossoming into something special...warms my heart actually... :)

PED
03-16-2010, 10:06 AM
I agree with Drak, tension is very personal. It's not only the stick or the string pattern you use but also your swing path as well as your grips.

What works for me (full western,long swing) is low tension poly. It's funny, I tried BBO and several others throughout the winter at 60lbs but it just doesn't work for my style. I tend to use the spin instead of the string tension for my depth control.

For a flatter hitter who really hammers it, the higher tension poly works great for depth control.

FWIW, I think I remember Luxilon posting the stat a few years back that the average tension on the tour was 57lbs.

TearSNFX
03-16-2010, 10:28 AM
Are you Kidding me ?? New pro hurr that is even better ??????? Is this going to be new material all over ?? different than RPM blast and old Pro hurr tour ?:confused:


It will be a modification of the Pro Hurricane original. It's supposed to be softer.

TearSNFX
03-17-2010, 11:18 AM
Update for RPM Blast.

I had the opportunity to play with VS 17 Gut ( Main ) and RPM Blast ( Cross ).

Very strong and lively combination. It had more spin than RPM Blast ( Main ) and Nvy 16 ( Cross ). Slice Serves were curving quite a bit, forehands drives were very fast and kicking high. Backhand slices were floating very nicely and bouncing minimal. Kick serves were kicking about the same but actually had more pace. Only 1 downside to this setup... I played with it for 3 hours with string savers everywhere and it's still almost gone :sad:

I wish I had tried RPM Blast ( Main ) VS Gut 17 ( Cross ) combination so I could really find out which combination would have been better for this string and my playstyle. I guess I have to wait till May when the strings are available here locally.

One thing is for sure, for my play style these strings are very nice.

I have a very spin oriented game with occasional flat drives.

raging
03-17-2010, 01:19 PM
Tear - nice update on RPM. Sounds like VS Gut (in crosses) is next test!
Clearly it won't last as long as NVY/RPM hybrid or even Xcel/RPM.

Buckethead
03-18-2010, 08:53 PM
If you guys paid attention that RPM will be a good string for an hour of play,if you saw Nadal playing tonight,he plays for about 20 mins or less and change rackets,and if you really paid attention you can see that he starts to move the strings back in place just after a few points.Of course ,nobody hits with so much spin as he does,but that string should not hold tension really well and the string movement will be pretty annoying.

TearSNFX
03-18-2010, 11:39 PM
If you guys paid attention that RPM will be a good string for an hour of play,if you saw Nadal playing tonight,he plays for about 20 mins or less and change rackets,and if you really paid attention you can see that he starts to move the strings back in place just after a few points.Of course ,nobody hits with so much spin as he does,but that string should not hold tension really well and the string movement will be pretty annoying.

I lost 2 pounds of tension compared to when I first strung it ....

dgoran
03-19-2010, 04:46 AM
If you guys paid attention that RPM will be a good string for an hour of play,if you saw Nadal playing tonight,he plays for about 20 mins or less and change rackets,and if you really paid attention you can see that he starts to move the strings back in place just after a few points.Of course ,nobody hits with so much spin as he does,but that string should not hold tension really well and the string movement will be pretty annoying.

The only problem with your theory is that Nadal apparently does not use RPM Blast as per official stringers in IW.

BTW Nadal always did this racket swapping I suspect because of the Duralast. Duralast looses whopping 25.33 of the tension freshly strung.
Babolat Duralast 16 Polyester 1.31 253 25.33

The data is for 1.31 but nadal uses 1.35 so I assume its little better at tension main. but not much

PED
03-19-2010, 06:35 AM
^^Greg never did confirm what was actually written on the reel.

I mention this because the TW test string that I received doesn't say RPM blast. It has a Babolat B-coded number to it. On some other message boards, some of the pro stringers for the earlier season tourneys said that the "coded" string was RPM blast.
This is all conjecture on my part BTW>

Standupnfall
03-19-2010, 06:44 AM
There is no confirmation that the TW test string is RPM Blast.

There is also a small chance that not all testers received the same exact string as this is how a normal product test goes.

I find it hard to believe that a string would be sent out this late for testing and feedback only few weeks before it is scheduled to be released. If it is RPM blast then they are not doing R&D they would just be looking for some product review quotes to post on sites and press releases or packaging.

It may be RPM Blast, it may be an all new string, some may have been black Hurricane, we really can't say.

Its funny to see how set people get on speculation, like what this string is, what the company plans are and what strings pros use. :)

PED
03-19-2010, 06:49 AM
There is no confirmation that the TW test string is RPM Blast. It may be RPM Blast, it may be an all new string, some may have been black Hurricane.

Its funny to see how set people get on speculation, like what this string is, what the company plans are and what strings pros use. :)

I totally agree, there's no telling what it is. The code on my pack is the same code (supposedly) that was being used at Memphis so who knows?

Part of the confusion comes from if they are really making PHT in black. My string is "shaped" FWIW.

I honestly don't care if it's what Rafa is using or not: if it's good, then it's good and I am looking forward to using it this weekend.

My last two string setups were PL2 and Genesis SpinX, neither which has a following on the tour. :)

Standupnfall
03-19-2010, 08:23 AM
I honestly don't care if it's what Rafa is using or not: if it's good, then it's good and I am looking forward to using it this weekend.



Same here. I like it so far and will be putting it to the real test tomorrow morning is my doubles matches.

I am not very particular with my string when practicing or baseline bashing, generally comfort is my #1 concern then.

For me the constant accuracy and control demands of competitive doubles is where I find a string can shine or fail.

dgoran
03-19-2010, 08:30 AM
^^Greg never did confirm what was actually written on the reel.

I mention this because the TW test string that I received doesn't say RPM blast. It has a Babolat B-coded number to it. On some other message boards, some of the pro stringers for the earlier season tourneys said that the "coded" string was RPM blast.
This is all conjecture on my part BTW>

FWIW he said exactly this: "I just glanced at Nadal's reel, and it didn't seem to be RPM Blast."

So I deducted that I trust he knows RPM Blast from babolats other offerings...

Like you said i dont give a $... as well but just stating what was said...

djwurm
03-19-2010, 08:30 AM
It is RPM Blast guys...

I have 2 sets of string I got from my Babolat rep and 1 from the Babolat playtest and they are the same B code.

raging
03-19-2010, 09:16 AM
It seems like RPM was a bit of a rush-job from Babolat, they had planned to release it around end of May, got somehow pressured or believed their own hype, pre-testing with the pros, factory production promises and put it forward to April.

The problems with packaging meant they brought out these number coded samples and then they issued some of their pros (teaching as well) with samples of PHT. Now they are putting RPM back to May and Black PHT is on hold (still in the catalogue). The test samples of B....RPM are creating a lot of interest.

Meanwhile in the UK a lot of orders are being cancelled because they can't supply.(Not just string!)
The big internet companies (likeTW) should be able to make a killing(if they get stock).

I agree with Standupnfall - it is no guarantee that all testers, pros have the same string...and... this will throw the cat amongst the pigeons...it is possible Nadal is using a 3rd string!...and it isn't Duralast!:twisted:

See... that is how easy it is to start speculation...but that is particularly easy with string.

No wonder people are confused.

I don't think it matters as long as the product's quality justifies it's price.

TearSNFX
03-19-2010, 09:19 AM
Front :

B-432C
130/16
Babolat

Back :
241xxx
Black B432c 130
Barcode

PED
03-19-2010, 09:22 AM
That's what it says on my box but at the bottom it says:

for Rafa's use only ;)

drakulie
03-19-2010, 09:35 AM
It seems like RPM was a bit of a rush-job from Babolat, they had planned to release it around end of May, got somehow pressured or believed their own hype, pre-testing with the pros, factory production promises and put it forward to April.

The problems with packaging meant they brought out these number coded samples and then they issued some of their pros (teaching as well) with samples of PHT. Now they are putting RPM back to May and Black PHT is on hold (still in the catalogue). The test samples of B....RPM are creating a lot of interest.

Meanwhile in the UK a lot of orders are being cancelled because they can't supply.(Not just string!)
The big internet companies (likeTW) should be able to make a killing(if they get stock).

I agree with Standupnfall - it is no guarantee that all testers, pros have the same string...and... this will throw the cat amongst the pigeons...it is possible Nadal is using a 3rd string!...and it isn't Duralast!:twisted:

See... that is how easy it is to start speculation...but that is particularly easy with string.

No wonder people are confused.

I don't think it matters as long as the product's quality justifies it's price.


Good post, and I agree, this is primarily the reason why there is so much confusion.

Anyway, I've been hitting with the TW Playtest babolat String (B432-C) the last few days with an ex-futures player. 2 hours of pure drilling each day, and also hit with a top junior at one of the academies yesterday. Drilled for an hour, and played one set. Will post my results either tonight or tomorrow.

PED
03-19-2010, 10:03 AM
Anyway, I've been hitting with the TW Playtest babolat String (B432-C) the last few days with an ex-futures player. 2 hours of pure drilling each day, and also hit with a top junior at one of the academies yesterday. Drilled for an hour, and played one set. Will post my results either tonight or tomorrow.

Looking forward to your thoughts for B432 versus SpinX. I hope to compare the 2 over the weekend as well.

raging
03-20-2010, 08:40 AM
Good post, and I agree, this is primarily the reason why there is so much confusion.

Anyway, I've been hitting with the TW Playtest babolat String (B432-C) the last few days with an ex-futures player. 2 hours of pure drilling each day, and also hit with a top junior at one of the academies yesterday. Drilled for an hour, and played one set. Will post my results either tonight or tomorrow.

thanks for feedback, will be interested to hear what you think of the stuff, 2 hours should give you good feel for the string and the drills and set play will finish it off!
Good stuff, I am exhausted already...its beer time!:)

chrisfromalbany
03-25-2010, 11:43 AM
Good post, and I agree, this is primarily the reason why there is so much confusion.

Anyway, I've been hitting with the TW Playtest babolat String (B432-C) the last few days with an ex-futures player. 2 hours of pure drilling each day, and also hit with a top junior at one of the academies yesterday. Drilled for an hour, and played one set. Will post my results either tonight or tomorrow.

where is the review? :confused::confused:

jburton
03-25-2010, 11:54 AM
I was speekin to my stringer a couple weeks ago and he said he could get the RPM blast right now.

nickarnold2000
03-25-2010, 07:43 PM
I was speekin to my stringer a couple weeks ago and he said he could get the RPM blast right now.
Super! Please do a playtest for us. :)

Fedace
03-25-2010, 10:22 PM
What i want to know is how this string will compare to the new Flagship string from Kirschbaum called "HELIX". Helix is supposed to be the best string that kirsch makes now. and this RPM blast is the best string by babolat. wonder how they do head to head ??????

Fedace
03-25-2010, 10:23 PM
Looking forward to your thoughts for B432 versus SpinX. I hope to compare the 2 over the weekend as well.

PED,, would this string increase my serve speed by 5 MPH ??

brownbearfalling
03-26-2010, 06:26 AM
I was speekin to my stringer a couple weeks ago and he said he could get the RPM blast right now.

I think you should take him up on this offer and have your racquets strung with Rpm.

LPShanet
03-27-2010, 10:41 AM
PED,, would this string increase my serve speed by 5 MPH ??

I assume you already know that NO string in existence will increase your serve speed by 5 mph on its own.

PED
03-27-2010, 12:20 PM
PED,, would this string increase my serve speed by 5 MPH ??

Probably not :) though it's quite powerful when freshly strung. It was great the first 2 days.

Pioneer
03-28-2010, 04:43 AM
Anybody tried this string yet? a lot of people say they have demos

PED
03-28-2010, 06:57 AM
Anybody tried this string yet? a lot of people say they have demos


There's is an entire dedicated test thread to this very string. Should be a sticky in the stringing section.

raging
03-29-2010, 12:00 AM
I was speekin to my stringer a couple weeks ago and he said he could get the RPM blast right now.

That's great!... for your stringer :) -Babolat UK are being very shy with landing dates for the string so...your stringer must be getting it from somewhere else ??? -mid April was original arrival date but like a lot of things...it could be put back.

Shaolin
03-30-2010, 07:03 PM
Bump...any more reviews on this string?

Fedace
03-30-2010, 07:11 PM
How does RPM compare in power to Pro hurr tour ???

chrisfromalbany
03-31-2010, 05:57 AM
How is there no update on this?

drakulie
03-31-2010, 06:00 AM
where is the review? :confused::confused:

Here you go.

I'd like to first start off by thanking Tennis Warehouse for selecting me to complete this review.

Racquet: Microgel Prestige Pro
String: Babolat 432-C, Gauge: 16
Tension: 60 lbs
Stringing Machine: Babolat Star 4
String Pattern: One Piece
Surface: Har tru
Hours of Use: 7+
Playing Condition: 55-75 degrees over 4 days.

STRINGING
Stringing, for a polyester compared to other strings in this category was fairly easy. The string was rather soft, and did not have the extensive coil memory as is the experience with this type of string. Weaving, although not as easy as synthetics, was very easy and comfortable. Quick video of a few weaves could be seen here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYA0ZgqYFWA Total time spent stringing was roughly 20 minutes.


TENSION READING
String was measured with a String Meter to provide a reference point immediately after being taken off the machine on 5 pts of the racquet string bed at 2, 4, 8, 10 o'clock, and dead center. This process was repeated every day before each hitting session, and immediately after.


Before first hitting session, (less than 24 hours after stringing), the string showed approx 4 lbs of tension loss. After first session, the string showed another 3 lbs tension loss throughout the string bed for a total loss of approximately 7 lbs. (2 hours of drilling)
Second hitting session, string showed a 2 lbs loss, and then another 1 lbs by the end of the second day, for a total of 10 lbs total. (1 hour of drilling, and one set)
Third hitting session, 1 lb loss, and then zero lbs, for a total of 11 lbs. (1 hour of drilling, and doubles match)
Fourth session, 4 lbs tension loss, and string snapped after 1 hour of drilling.Total tension loss was approimately 15 lbs, in 5 hours of drilling, one set, and one doubles match.


Hitting Sessions
My hitting sessions consisted of drilling with an ex-futures player for approximately 2 hours each day. These sessions included, FH, BH, Volleys, Serves, and playing tie breaks. I also spent one day drilling with a junior player from a local academy, and playing one set, in addition to playing a doubles match for a Friday Night event at the tennis club.


Playtest
Strings strongest characteristic is the cushioned feel and ability to absorb the impact of very heavy and spinny incoming shots. There was very little vibration/raw feedback delivered back to the hand on all strokes, and what was left was a very comfortable ride. The thick and cushiony feel of the string would be a great attribute for players looking for a poly that doesn't feel so stiff when playing, and is extremely comfortable.

Spin and power were average/below average. I found myself having to work harder than usual to hit the ball deep, and with pace on groundstrokes. This included serving, where my first and second serves lacked the punch and spin I get with my current strings, and other poly strings. Volleys and slice shots were actually another story. Although I wasn't getting great punch, the soft feel made touch shots, slices, and drop volleys very comfortable. The string enabled me to almost "catch" the ball on volleys and place it where I wanted.

By my third hitting session, the cushioned feel I referred to earlier began wearing off at a fast pace, and the string began to feel very "plasticy", and harsh. It began to feel hollow and tension loss began making it extremely difficult to control depth, until it snapped on my fourth hitting session (approx 8 hours of play).


Pros: Easy to string. Extremely soft/cushiony feel. Little to no vibration delivered to hand. Great for touch shots.


Cons: Average to below average spin and power. Poor tension maintenance. String goes dead very quickly. Durability is below average.

Hope you enjoyed the review, and as always,,,, these are my thoughts. Everyone is different, so it is best to go out on the court and experience the string for yourself. Thanks!

PED
03-31-2010, 06:29 AM
How is there no update on this?

There is an entire thread dedicated to just this topic and it's a sticky in the stringing section so you'll find that's where most of the reviews are being posted.

mrmo1115
03-31-2010, 08:41 AM
^ PED.. do you think in my case it will be best to give RPM Blast a shot as a full poly job or a replacement over PHT in my usual PHT/VS Gut hybrid?

bigfirstserve
03-31-2010, 09:12 AM
I lost 2 pounds of tension compared to when I first strung it ....

You lose up to 2 lbs of tension within the first 48 hours of the racket being off the machine, no matter what frame or string.

mrmo1115
03-31-2010, 09:19 AM
^ Is that only specific to brand new racquets? Or just any racquet in general?

bigfirstserve
03-31-2010, 09:55 AM
^ Is that only specific to brand new racquets? Or just any racquet in general?

Any racket, any string. Generally polyester will lose quicker though, followed by multifillament, monofillament. Natural gut will lose tension the quickest.

PED
03-31-2010, 10:21 AM
^ PED.. do you think in my case it will be best to give RPM Blast a shot as a full poly job or a replacement over PHT in my usual PHT/VS Gut hybrid?

I would say a definite NO to that. My rpm was nice for 2 days but after sitting unplayed for three days: it dropped all tension and felt dead the next time I played.

You would likely waste some good gut with that setup as the rpm would be dead well before the gut snapped. That's just my experience so take it for what you will. :)

Fedace
03-31-2010, 10:42 AM
I would say a definite NO to that. My rpm was nice for 2 days but after sitting unplayed for three days: it dropped all tension and felt dead the next time I played.

You would likely waste some good gut with that setup as the rpm would be dead well before the gut snapped. That's just my experience so take it for what you will. :)

PEd , do you know if RPM blast is more powerful than the pro Hurr tour ??

PED
03-31-2010, 10:45 AM
PEd , do you know if RPM blast is more powerful than the pro Hurr tour ??

For the first few hours, I would say yes that it is more powerful than pht.

raging
03-31-2010, 11:16 AM
For the first few hours, I would say yes that it is more powerful than pht.

It is also for sale @TW Europe! :twisted:

mrmo1115
03-31-2010, 11:27 AM
I would say a definite NO to that. My rpm was nice for 2 days but after sitting unplayed for three days: it dropped all tension and felt dead the next time I played.

You would likely waste some good gut with that setup as the rpm would be dead well before the gut snapped. That's just my experience so take it for what you will. :)

Thanks PED... so you think I should keep PHT rather than move to RPM if I want to keep my hybrid of gut in the crosses?

Fedace
03-31-2010, 11:39 AM
For the first few hours, I would say yes that it is more powerful than pht.

so i have to cut it out after about 4 hours of play ??? that maybe a good idea.:confused:

Fedace
03-31-2010, 12:05 PM
Natural gut loses tension the slowest.

maybe he is talking about synthetic gut like prince synth gut that loses 12 lbs in first 30 minutes.....:)