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federerhoogenbandfan
04-27-2005, 08:17 AM
Here are my current projections:

Federer-Champion(or lose in semis,one or the other)
Hewitt-quarters
Roddick-3rd round
Safin-4th round

rhubarb
04-27-2005, 08:20 AM
Who knows? Better to see the draw first. A lot may depend on which quarter Nadal, Gaudio and Coria end up in, not to mention Ferrero.

verdasco67
04-27-2005, 08:29 AM
Safin = unpredictable.

federerhoogenbandfan
04-27-2005, 08:31 AM
Gaudio is very beatable right now and could lose to any of those four, even Roddick. Coria and Ferrero I am not sold on right now either, they seem to lose easily when they come up against tough competition.

johnmcc516
04-27-2005, 08:33 AM
I hope Roddick does better than 3rd round.

federerhoogenbandfan
04-27-2005, 09:01 AM
I hope he doesnt even reach the 3rd round but he will probably get a nice draw to allow him to get that far. 4th round or quarters would be a miracle for him.

35ft6
04-27-2005, 09:18 AM
Federer = semi's
Roddick = 3 round
Safin = 1st or 2nd round
Hewitt = round of 16

DariusRaiden
04-27-2005, 09:51 AM
Federer= 4th Round
Roddick= 2nd Round
Safin= QF
Hewitt= 4th Round

Maybe my predictions are crazy, but Roddick has never played well at the French, including years when he won Houston and St. Poelten.
Federer is gonna struggle, especially if he has to play any dirtballers early. Federer was impressive on clay last year before the French, winning Hamburg by beating Coria, but then he lost badly to Guga.
Safin actually has a solid record, reaching the SF in 2002 and the 4th Round last year, and he lost a close match to Nalbandian despite having debilitating blisters on his hands. He is an absolute beast, and his fitness will make him extra tough throughout the tournament, so he could pass the QFs, but that would surprise me.
As for Hewitt, he played well last year, but got beat badly by Gaudio and was lucky against Malisse. If he plays any South Americans or Spaniards early, he might be in trouble.
Juan Carlos Ferrero, on the other hand, will be extra hungry to vault up the rankings, look for him to make at least the Semi's, its gonna take an in-form Coria or Nadal to knock him out.
Carlos Moya has been quiet this year, and its about time for this guy to make a serious run at Roland Garros, hopefully he can get past the quarters this year. Seeing him play Nadal would be terrific, especially later in the tournament.
Coria is going to be sorry he didnt take this trophy last year, because Ferrero and Nadal are in his way this year. Guille will be at least into the quarters, but winning the title is asking too much.
Finally Nadal. His game is basically perfect on clay, and he has beaten both Coria and Ferrero this year. The only thing standing in his way are tough matches back to back. That, and the expectations might get to him.

Misiti99
04-27-2005, 10:51 AM
I'm frankly upset with Safin. With all that talent...I have in my fantasy team for Atp.tennis.com and he loses first round all the damn time. He usually has a big Grand Slam tournament...wins another big one..and loses the rest of the year first and second round...and ends up being top 5...how's that fair? Perhaps the big tournaments are weighted too heavily. Anyways..Coria doesn't look impressive...I bet you Gaudio gets to the Semi's of the French....I hoped to see new blood like Mariano Puerta..and Albert Montanes...but they lost to weak guys this past week like Melzer and Lopez. They're not that weak..but neither are threats on clay. Feliciano Lopez who has a pretty descent ranking nowadays..who has a similar look and game to Nadal has trouble on clay and actually plays more hard court tournaments. Again i'd love to see Moya get back in full form like someone said...he might be a bit past his prime. I think the men's game is weak right now to be honest. I think the only real guys to win Roland Garros can be Federer, Gaudio, or Nadal. I wouldnt mind seeing Gasquet have something to say about that.

gugafanatic
04-27-2005, 05:13 PM
Providing Guga Can Get Some Matches At Rome/hamburg Then For Sure He Can Make Some Noise At Rg. He Can Play Inspired Tennis At The Fo.

silverwyvern4
04-27-2005, 05:15 PM
Is seeding based on the year end standings or the rolling 52 week entry rankings?

gugafanatic
04-27-2005, 05:23 PM
Here are my current projections:

Federer-Champion(or lose in semis,one or the other)
Hewitt-quarters
Roddick-3rd round
Safin-4th round

FED CHAMPION COMEON MATE GET A GRIP. Fed could face anyone of: Guga, Puerta, Ferrero, Gasquet, Ferrer in early rds. I doubt he can sustain wins over clay-court specialists throughout the two weeks. He's performance at MC, and overall this yr suggest he is vulnerable at the back of the court against players with variety and solid shots off both wings.

Misiti99
04-27-2005, 06:18 PM
let's not forget Fed is tough in the Slams..he fights hard...and he wants it really bad on Clay I think...he doesn't wanna be considered another Sampras who can't win on clay. I don't think Puerta will beat him....Nadal, JCF and Gaudio are only 3 guys who can beat him

answer to your question Silver:
Seedings are based apon the 52 week entry rank....NOT the year end ranking. At Wimbledon...the Racquet club there makes there own seedings...it's been a tradition or something, and is frankly unfair. Lastly..it's stupid for people to say that Nadal is now top 10...NO he's number 2. the Champions race is what counts..who cares about seeding.....this year hes number 2 currently.....So guys like Henman, Coria..Moya better get there acts together cause although there Seeds still make them look good...there points on the Champions Race is slippppppin......any thoughts guys?

Bogie
04-27-2005, 06:22 PM
Federer- 4th round at the most
Hewitt- 3rd round
Safin- Quarters
Roddick- doub't he'll get past second

rhubarb
04-28-2005, 02:27 AM
Seedings are based apon the 52 week entry rank....NOT the year end ranking. At Wimbledon...the Racquet club there makes there own seedings...it's been a tradition or something, and is frankly unfair. Lastly..it's stupid for people to say that Nadal is now top 10...NO he's number 2. the Champions race is what counts..who cares about seeding.....this year hes number 2 currently.....So guys like Henman, Coria..Moya better get there acts together cause although there Seeds still make them look good...there points on the Champions Race is slippppppin......any thoughts guys?

Seedings are based on the 52 week entry rank, and that's how it should be. You cannot use the race (year to date) to seed, because it does not look back far enough to give a fair and reasonable ranking. Imagine what top seeds we would have had over the past few years at the AO if they'd have used the race - Fabrice Santoro or Dominik Hrbaty, for example. The champions' race is *not* what counts, it's only useful towards the end of the year, and even then they don't really need it.

It's not perfect, of course. There's a case for adding a surface weighting to the seeding, which is what Wimbledon does. There is a formula which is applied to all of the seeded players - seeding lists at the AELTC are not made up whimsically.

degreefanlindi
04-28-2005, 03:30 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Hewitt will take it all at the French.

Rickson
04-28-2005, 06:23 AM
Federer's gonna win it all. Federer's hungry for a slam after his defeat at the AO. Federer will once again have a 3 slam year, but the AO will be substituted with the FO this year.

AndrewD
04-28-2005, 06:39 AM
Hewitt's coming back from surgery to his feet so I have reservations regarding his mobility. Regardless, I don't see him winning as it is, by his own admission, a surface that doesn't suit his style. I actually think he'd be happy if he got as far as the quarters but dont think he's holding his breath. 3rd Round

Safin, who knows? If he plays Santoro or Rochus first up then he could be out first round. Otherwise, 2nd round.

Federer, Semi-finals losing to Nadal

Roddick - would depend on how fast the courts play over there. If they're quick then possibly 4th round. If they're slow then 2nd round.

@wright
04-28-2005, 09:48 AM
I'm staying safe here and guessing one of these guys will win it: Coria, Nadal, Gaudio, Federer.

I'd give JCF an outside shot.

federerhoogenbandfan
04-28-2005, 11:24 AM
FED CHAMPION COMEON MATE GET A GRIP. Fed could face anyone of: Guga, Puerta, Ferrero, Gasquet, Ferrer in early rds. I doubt he can sustain wins over clay-court specialists throughout the two weeks. He's performance at MC, and overall this yr suggest he is vulnerable at the back of the court against players with variety and solid shots off both wings.

You should get a grip, your biases for your pets Kuerten and Roddick, and against Federer are blatant. Federer may not be the most likely pick to win the French, but he is a viable one given he has won two Masters Series titles, and been in 3 finals in Masters Series events on clay in the last three years. In his first event all year on clay he loses in a 3rd set tiebreaker to a kid playing out of his mind, who then tired almost beats Nadal in the next round, who has dominated the clay court season so far. You claimed Roddick has an outside shot of winning the French, if Roddick has an outside shot Federer certainly would have a good shot since he has proven he is a much better clay court player than Roddick with his Masters Series titles/finals the last few years, and his superior wins on clay relative to Roddick.

His performances at the French are deceiving since in 2002 and early 2003 he was an underachiever in slams in general, he could even lose 1st round at Wimbledon for example(2003). 2004 he was unlucky to have an off day while playing a red-hot Kuerten in the 3rd round. With a different draw he most likely would have been in the semis and quarters last year. Anyway you somehow see valid to claim Roddick who has just as poor a FO record, but not the Masters Series results of Fed on clay, has a chance.

Puerta, Ferrer, favored over Federer? ROTFL!!!! That is so ridiculous I wont even start. Gasquet is not automaticaly favored based on one win, nor is Kuerten. Both have alot to prove that they are playing at a high level consistently.

SydW
04-28-2005, 11:11 PM
FED CHAMPION COMEON MATE GET A GRIP. Fed could face anyone of: Guga, Puerta, Ferrero, Gasquet, Ferrer in early rds. I doubt he can sustain wins over clay-court specialists throughout the two weeks.

and you know for sure Gaudio, Coria or even Nadal won't have trouble facing those in the early rounds? It took hell of a match from Gasquet to beat Federer in MC and it also took hell of an effort for Nadal to beat Gasquet. I won't look too much into his loss in MC, besides that was his first clay tournament for about 10 months?

Let's face it, we can point out the favourites easily but it's undeniable all these favourites can have a bad day and be taken out by many other good clay courters out there. At this moment though, it's impossible to look past Nadal, but I am still curious to see if he can hold up if any players will take him to a long gruelling 5 setters on clay.

federerhoogenbandfan
04-29-2005, 08:56 AM
I was dissapointed gugafanatic did not give her picks. I am sure she would have been the only one to have Roddick getting further than Federer. :)

drakulie
04-29-2005, 10:02 AM
Roddick or Nadal will win it.

gugafanatic
05-01-2005, 06:54 PM
Nadal will prevail. But who knows, Guga is currently playing at high intensity with no pain. Providing he get match practice and rhytham, then for sure he can be a serious contender.