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kenshireen
02-03-2010, 08:43 PM
I have a few and these weigh around 10.5 ounces strung.
I never see any weight on their frames so I just wonder if they actually use such a light racquet

kenshireen
02-04-2010, 05:07 PM
Is this not a legitimate question..
Someone must have some input

Roddickfan155
02-04-2010, 05:16 PM
I actually train with Dan Balducci and he has one of Serena's frames and let me tell they ARE NOT STOCK. The lead on those bad boys are puttin it at about 12.8-13oz I'm serious they are really hefty

kenshireen
02-05-2010, 05:47 AM
I actually train with Dan Balducci and he has one of Serena's frames and let me tell they ARE NOT STOCK. The lead on those bad boys are puttin it at about 12.8-13oz I'm serious they are really hefty

Where do they put all that lead... I have seen the frames on TV closeup and do no see any tape or lead on the head and I suspect that is where most of it would be since there is not much weight in the top of that racquet

Gemini
02-05-2010, 05:57 AM
If you can't see the lead/weight then it's most likely under the bumper guard at the top of the racquet and/or inside or around the handle underneath the grip.

ihearit1st
02-05-2010, 06:51 AM
@RoddickFan-

So it seems they are stock from the factory, they are just customized to match their weight requirements. There's a difference in a frame that's been customized from stock and a frame that's completely customized. If there is that much lead on a frame, its probably the same one you buy off the shelf. Otherwise, the weight would be part of the mold for a custom frame. So,yes, their frames are stock.

Automatix
02-05-2010, 06:59 AM
I actually train with Dan Balducci and he has one of Serena's frames and let me tell they ARE NOT STOCK. The lead on those bad boys are puttin it at about 12.8-13oz I'm serious they are really hefty That's funny... it doesn't fit the info provided by Mr Raven:
http://www.hdtennis.com/grs/pro_racquet_specs/grab_bag.html

Williams, S. 300g 36.5cm sw 354
Williams, V. 299g 37.4cm sw 380

So sorry but I'm gonna stick with these stats instead of your 13oz etc.

P.S.: Maybe you just held the racquet and because of the monstrous head heavy balance it seemed heavy...

The_Question
02-05-2010, 07:35 AM
Williams, S. 300g 36.5cm sw 354
Williams, V. 299g 37.4cm sw 380


That is very light!!

OHBH
02-05-2010, 07:49 AM
Williams, S. 300g 36.5cm sw 354
Williams, V. 299g 37.4cm sw 380


That is very light!!

But look how HIGH the swingweight is. My stock KPS88 weighs over 2 ounces more yet it has a swingweight of 345. VENUS'S RACKET IS 380!!
It must be 12pts HEAD HEAVY, maybe more

kenshireen
02-05-2010, 12:44 PM
But look how HIGH the swingweight is. My stock KPS88 weighs over 2 ounces more yet it has a swingweight of 345. VENUS'S RACKET IS 380!!
It must be 12pts HEAD HEAVY, maybe more

I don't know what racquet she used back then but I find it hard to believe that asny racket weighing 299 grams can have a SW of 380...
Even if she loaded it up with lead the mass would have gone much higher.
I think these are incorrect

dr325i
02-05-2010, 01:54 PM
But look how HIGH the swingweight is. My stock KPS88 weighs over 2 ounces more yet it has a swingweight of 345. VENUS'S RACKET IS 380!!
It must be 12pts HEAD HEAVY, maybe more

34.3 cm is even.
37.4 is ~10pt HH

I just don't understand how they play doubles (net) with those rackets...

Don't Let It Bounce
02-05-2010, 02:27 PM
It's worth noting that pre-K-Factor, the WS always used racquets with pj's of head-heavy Hammers, and now they don't. Posters in other threads have suggested that there have been substantial changes in the WS's equipment and that they are not especially attached to a particular set-up.

So given that we don't know how old the specs found in 2009 were, it's at least possible that they switched for real to a HL racquet when they switched to the K-Factor pj. I wouldn't bet the rent on it, but the possibility shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

OHBH
02-05-2010, 02:43 PM
I don't know what racquet she used back then but I find it hard to believe that asny racket weighing 299 grams can have a SW of 380...
Even if she loaded it up with lead the mass would have gone much higher.
I think these are incorrect

Did the math using Racket Research
http://www.racquettech.com/store/learningcenter/lc_combinedswtbal.html
Enter stock Kblade Team weight (303 grams)
Enter Banalce Point (36 cm)
Enter swingweight (320)

You need to add 18 grams under the Bumper at 12 o' clock to get a Swingweight of 380.
Final weight 321 grams or 11.3 ounces, still pretty light fro a swingweight of 380 but certainly not 300 grams. The William sisters could have a racket 300 grams and a 380 swingweight but it could not be a Stock K Blade Team to Begin with. My guess is that they use a PJ.

kenshireen
02-05-2010, 03:33 PM
Did the math using Racket Research
http://www.racquettech.com/store/learningcenter/lc_combinedswtbal.html
Enter stock Kblade Team weight (303 grams)
Enter Banalce Point (36 cm)
Enter swingweight (320)

You need to add 18 grams under the Bumper at 12 o' clock to get a Swingweight of 380.
Final weight 321 grams or 11.3 ounces, still pretty light fro a swingweight of 380 but certainly not 300 grams. The William sisters could have a racket 300 grams and a 380 swingweight but it could not be a Stock K Blade Team to Begin with. My guess is that they use a PJ.

They use a kblade team now.. I can tell by the shape of the head...it is wider at 3 and 9.
Those notes were back from 2001 so we don't know what they were using

Roddickfan155
02-05-2010, 08:10 PM
im just sayin like they arent just total stock frames but yeah unless they are molded different they are indeed stock and their lead is under the bumper

The_Question
02-05-2010, 10:53 PM
I just don't understand how they play doubles (net) with those rackets...

Did you noticed their "guns"?? :shock:

Automatix
02-06-2010, 12:49 AM
They use a kblade team now.. I can tell by the shape of the head...it is wider at 3 and 9. They may be using the mold, doesn't mean that the modifying start point is like a retail Blade Team.

It's not my business to make you believe that 13oz is... well strange for someone who has been using lighter hammers.
Believe what you will.

Peace.

AlpineCadet
02-06-2010, 01:43 AM
That was a question a lot of people were asking the Wilson Rep, and his response was that they use stock frames. He also said that Djokovic was using the stock kBlade MP when Djokovic was still signed with Wilson. :roll:

ollinger
02-06-2010, 09:39 AM
Is that how reps avoid getting fired?

KiNG
02-06-2010, 12:26 PM
That was a question a lot of people were asking the Wilson Rep, and his response was that they use stock frames. He also said that Djokovic was using the stock kBlade MP when Djokovic was still signed with Wilson. :roll:

You're asking a Wilson rep what did you expect!!!!!

Note that Venus racquet is full 28" long, don't know about Serena though. And they both play with a 5/8.

Roddickfan155
02-06-2010, 12:32 PM
well i mean roddick's racquet after lead is 12.5oz and he's a big guy so i was just thinkin 13oz is pretty substantial for women thats all

kenshireen
02-06-2010, 03:27 PM
You're asking a Wilson rep what did you expect!!!!!

Note that Venus racquet is full 28" long, don't know about Serena though. And they both play with a 5/8.

well if her racket is 28 inches than by definition there are not stock at all are they..the kblade team is 27.3

kenshireen
02-15-2010, 06:39 PM
You're asking a Wilson rep what did you expect!!!!!

Note that Venus racquet is full 28" long, don't know about Serena though. And they both play with a 5/8.


How do you knw he racket is 28 inches long

Slavan
03-26-2010, 07:18 AM
official stringer of Kremlin cup said that Serena`s racquet has balance about 380mm and about 13 oz weight

he said it`s like a hammer

kenshireen
09-03-2010, 10:05 PM
Well, since it is a kblade team... you can tell by the shape..there must be a ton of lead under the bumper guard.
They could not generate that type of power with a 10.4 ounce stock racket