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Gorecki
02-04-2010, 01:54 PM
does anyone know what head 600 is this and how good it is?

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/71650131_2-Raquete-tenis-Oeiras.jpg

Bud
02-04-2010, 04:59 PM
does anyone know what head 600 is this and how good it is?

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/71650131_2-Raquete-tenis-Oeiras.jpg

It looks a bit like a Club Pro with really crappy grommets.

coachrick
02-04-2010, 05:09 PM
+1 on the Club Pro...not much of a stick in its day('87-'88 ) .
Looks like the strings/grommets might be pulling through in the throat...wouldn't surprise me.

retrowagen
02-04-2010, 08:35 PM
Same graphics as the 1988 version of the Club Pro, but wrong color. Must be a Euro version, probably very flexy, and as the others have mentioned, overdue for a new grommet and bumper.

Thepowerofchoice
02-04-2010, 09:05 PM
does anyone know what head 600 is this and how good it is?

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/71650131_2-Raquete-tenis-Oeiras.jpg


Head Special Edition PRO made in USA.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=270474&highlight=special+edition

Gorecki
02-05-2010, 02:27 AM
So, this racquet is in need for new grommets if i understand correctly...

would the Prestiges mid fit?

i would recondition and cap this one if it's any good...

MichaelChang
02-05-2010, 04:45 AM
Are you the one that is selling this on the bay right now?

Gorecki
02-05-2010, 05:39 AM
Are you the one that is selling this on the bay right now?

no. and this one is not for sale at **** either. it's a local classified site...

khw72004
02-05-2010, 11:49 AM
This racket is indeed the Special Edition Pro. It is essentially the same racket is the classic club pro made of fiberglass/graphite composite and engineered for medium flex. These ones are usually made in Taiwan. But the good thing about these are that the bumper guard and grommets do not crack like the other club pros.

Personally I have enjoyed playing with all the Pro series rackets but the club pros are my least favorite of the Pro series (although better than any new model rackets I can buy)

Gorecki
02-07-2010, 03:58 AM
But my question remains... can i cap it?

khw72004
02-07-2010, 07:28 PM
Yeah you can, but IMO you really only need to do it when the grommets are cracking and are not replaceable.

Gorecki
02-08-2010, 04:01 AM
thanks KHW

cheers. i will wait for it's arrival, post pictures of it's state before and after refurbishing...

Thepowerofchoice
02-08-2010, 08:08 PM
thanks KHW

cheers. i will wait for it's arrival, post pictures of it's state before and after refurbishing...

Also a mini review after you cap it would be great. I have a pair and still not sure if I want to cap them or sell them(spring cleaning).

Gorecki
02-09-2010, 01:08 AM
Also a mini review after you cap it would be great. I have a pair and still not sure if I want to cap them or sell them(spring cleaning).

ok. ill try. but i am not really a great reviewer.

if your frames grommets are not ruined, don't do it. keeping our frame original keeps it's value i believe...

in this case they seem to be quite messed up!

Gorecki
02-09-2010, 04:53 AM
the eagle has landed...

Special edition Pro

grip 4 3\8

grommets in messy messy condition...

Paintjob surprisingly in great condition... very litlle scratches...

now, she need a shower, glue (from old grips and head tape) and clay all over this baby!

Gorecki
02-09-2010, 01:47 PM
Stripped from the ruined grommets and aditional junk, it looks a solid 8\10.

but the stragest thing happened to me today: i went to this old pro shop looking for mid caps, and the guy gives me a set of .... BROWN PC 600 brand new caps...:shock::shock:

now the big question pops up: am i haveing a senior moment or are these quite hard to find ?

pic to follow!

retrowagen
02-09-2010, 02:04 PM
but the stragest thing happened to me today: i went to this old pro shop looking for mid caps, and the guy gives me a set of .... BROWN PC 600 brand new caps...:shock::shock:

now the big question pops up: am i haveing a senior moment or are these quite hard to find ?

Those are tough to find.

Gorecki
02-09-2010, 02:47 PM
Those are tough to find.

im having second thoughts about using them in this frame for 2 reasons:

1 - they dont match the blue and grey of the frame

2 - they would be better of in a red prestige...

uploading the pics to photobucket as we speak...

Gorecki
02-09-2010, 02:59 PM
sorry for the low quality ( htc diamond and artificial light is a no-no combination

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/IMAGE_038.jpg
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/IMAGE_039-1.jpg
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/IMAGE_040-1.jpg

Gorecki
02-09-2010, 03:00 PM
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/IMAGE_041-1.jpg
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/IMAGE_042.jpg

the worst paint chip

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/IMAGE_043.jpg

Gorecki
02-09-2010, 03:01 PM
the brown pc 600 grommets

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/IMAGE_037.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/IMAGE_036.jpg

coachrick
02-09-2010, 06:47 PM
Are the grommet barrels long enough to clear the frame? That is, will the cap system seat 'into' the frame so the grommets will extend beyond the 'inner' holes?

Gorecki
02-10-2010, 12:21 AM
any (most??) 89.5 head frame with 18x20 will fit these grommets afaik

coachrick
02-10-2010, 05:46 AM
any (most??) 89.5 head frame with 18x20 will fit these grommets afaik

It isn't the hole pattern but the 'depth' that is of concern. Some others who are more familiar with the cap and frame you have might chime in.

In the old days, we swapped bumpers, grommets and caps among many of the Head frames(Club, Team, Comp, Graphite, etc) BUT the cap system didn't always fit, depth-wise, a frame not specifically designed for the cap system..the channel around the hoop that held the normal string strip was not designed for the cap that was thicker and needed to 'seat' farther to allow the grommet barrel to extend far enough.

Someone like 'vsbabolat' would understand my ramblings and could explain better, I'm sure. Just for grins, you might try to 'dry fit' the cap at the top of the hoop and see if the length/depth is correct...or fitting at the bottom holes on the outside of the hoop(last holes before the throat) would be a test.

As an illustration, the old TXMaster cap system of say 1987 would not fit onto a Graphite Master or Comp Master because they were not designed to accept the thickness of the cap system.

If all of this proves to be inaccurate or completely unclear(!), I shall yield to those who can discuss the matter more coherently :) . Just tryin' to help.

Gorecki
02-10-2010, 06:50 AM
It isn't the hole pattern but the 'depth' that is of concern. Some others who are more familiar with the cap and frame you have might chime in.

In the old days, we swapped bumpers, grommets and caps among many of the Head frames(Club, Team, Comp, Graphite, etc) BUT the cap system didn't always fit, depth-wise, a frame not specifically designed for the cap system..the channel around the hoop that held the normal string strip was not designed for the cap that was thicker and needed to 'seat' farther to allow the grommet barrel to extend far enough.

Someone like 'vsbabolat' would understand my ramblings and could explain better, I'm sure. Just for grins, you might try to 'dry fit' the cap at the top of the hoop and see if the length/depth is correct...or fitting at the bottom holes on the outside of the hoop(last holes before the throat) would be a test.

As an illustration, the old TXMaster cap system of say 1987 would not fit onto a Graphite Master or Comp Master because they were not designed to accept the thickness of the cap system.

If all of this proves to be inaccurate or completely unclear(!), I shall yield to those who can discuss the matter more coherently :) . Just tryin' to help.

yes. i know, and i thank you for that. i did your sugestion and it seems to fit nicely, clearing the thickness of the frame just fine. but i definitely will not use these. i will order a set of MG wich are much less rare than the brown ones. according to Retrowagen and VSbabs the MG are just fine...

the brown ones will change hands for someone who wants them for a pc600...

THESEXPISTOL
02-10-2010, 09:36 AM
That's amazing. What's the probability of find those grommets? I bet they are ridiculously low :lol:

If i was looking for a Euromillions partner it would be you.

offtopic:
tens que me dizer sitios mesmo no Porto onde vendam assim material de tennis. Tipo uns overgrips e uns synthetic guts para o desenrasque.

Gorecki
02-10-2010, 03:18 PM
That's amazing. What's the probability of find those grommets? I bet they are ridiculously low :lol:

If i was looking for a Euromillions partner it would be you.

offtopic:
tens que me dizer sitios mesmo no Porto onde vendam assim material de tennis. Tipo uns overgrips e uns synthetic guts para o desenrasque.

i found these at the old guy mr vieira, in rua da boavista...
and thse oldies ifind every now and then are from everyday web hunting or traveling to the country side for work purposes...

andas a procura de alguma raquete classica?

THESEXPISTOL
02-11-2010, 12:57 PM
andas a procura de alguma raquete classica?

Eu não sou muito dado a raquetes clássicas. Embora gostasse de ter uma PS85 para de vez em quando num ambiente descontraído jogar contra um amigo em Serviço-Rede. Da-me mesmo muito gozo especialmente quando consigo abrir o campo no deuce-court com um serviço chapado.
Sempre tive curiosidade em usar uma PT280 ou uma PC600.

Mas normalmente como treino quase todos os dias e tenho torneios todos os fins de semana e sempre em competição e uma raquete como a minha (ta na sig) ajuda-me mesmo a ter profundidade sem grande esforço, tenho grande facilidade em abrir ângulos com spins, chapar a bola numa paralela e servir muito forte.
Hoje em dia em competição tem que se jogar assim, não há mais espaço para aquele ténis mais clássico e bonito a não ser que sejas um fora de série (mesmo muito fora de série).
Eu ainda me desenrasco bem porque tenho um bom jogo ''all-around'' e posso fazer de tudo no court, mas a maioria do pessoal é uma passo atras no fundo do court a chapar a bola e enfiar efeitos à espera de uma bola curta.
Se bem que ando mortinho por experimentar uma Head Prestige MP (98'' 18x20) ou uma Dunlop 4D AG300 Tour (98'' 18x20) para ver se consigo ter mais precisão.

Gorecki
02-11-2010, 03:56 PM
Eu não sou muito dado a raquetes clássicas. Embora gostasse de ter uma PS85 para de vez em quando num ambiente descontraído jogar contra um amigo em Serviço-Rede. Da-me mesmo muito gozo especialmente quando consigo abrir o campo no deuce-court com um serviço chapado.
Sempre tive curiosidade em usar uma PT280 ou uma PC600.

Mas normalmente como treino quase todos os dias e tenho torneios todos os fins de semana e sempre em competição e uma raquete como a minha (ta na sig) ajuda-me mesmo a ter profundidade sem grande esforço, tenho grande facilidade em abrir ângulos com spins, chapar a bola numa paralela e servir muito forte.
Hoje em dia em competição tem que se jogar assim, não há mais espaço para aquele ténis mais clássico e bonito a não ser que sejas um fora de série (mesmo muito fora de série).
Eu ainda me desenrasco bem porque tenho um bom jogo ''all-around'' e posso fazer de tudo no court, mas a maioria do pessoal é uma passo atras no fundo do court a chapar a bola e enfiar efeitos à espera de uma bola curta.
Se bem que ando mortinho por experimentar uma Head Prestige MP (98'' 18x20) ou uma Dunlop 4D AG300 Tour (98'' 18x20) para ver se consigo ter mais precisão.

pistol... eu sou só um amador e um hacker... mas garanto-te que na opinião deste teu amigo, o que perdes em potencia num serviço chapado trocando uma moderna mid plus + por uma mid classica é muito compensado pela colocação que consegues, para nºao falar nos serviços em slice do add a pingarem e a sairem meio metro depois da rede...

e isto aplica-se a todas as pancadas no tenis, seja em s&V ou fundo de court... alem de que para chapar winners uma classica é como um bisturi. para que vou confiar no spin se tenho o flat?

quem te diz isto é uma gajo que tem como arma principal uma PT280 Oversize (i.e. uma pro tour 690)... :)

Gorecki
05-10-2010, 08:51 AM
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm24/lambfreack/P1010045-1.jpg

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