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Xavier
02-17-2010, 01:48 PM
Hi,

do you know what's under Head PT57 F Paintjob ?

Thanks to confirm me...

Mdubb23
02-17-2010, 05:03 PM
I didn't know such a racquet existed. Can you post pics? My guess would be that it's the PT630 mold with a quite stiff layup.

Xenakis
02-17-2010, 05:05 PM
Never heard of it. Normally listed as an A or an E, not an F. VsBabolat is the man to ask.

OliverSimon
02-17-2010, 06:55 PM
F?! There can be no such racquet!

BobFL
02-17-2010, 07:31 PM
That must be 'E' with a missing '_':)

nethawkwenatchee
03-05-2010, 11:02 PM
F?! There can be no such racquet!

That must be 'E' with a missing '_':)

:) PT57 mold + FXP = Very Rare... "PT57F"

- Select elite players used it a few years back. I'll play test and provide a review under "racquets" when I find time.

"nethawkwenatchee"

Xavier
03-06-2010, 07:04 AM
I had 3 :)

vsbabolat
03-06-2010, 07:32 AM
:) PT57 mold + FXP = Very Rare... "PT57F"

- Select elite players used it a few years back. I'll play test and provide a review under "racquets" when I find time.

"nethawkwenatchee"

I thought PT57 Mold + FXP = TGK223.2........

nethawkwenatchee
03-06-2010, 08:25 AM
I thought PT57 Mold + FXP = TGK223.2........

Hey VS- Maybe the frames are similar in composition? I can say with certainty that the 57F origin is Kennelback (to me via Belgium :))... not sure about the one you mentioned?

Xenakis
03-06-2010, 08:39 AM
Pics anyone?

MichaelChang
03-06-2010, 10:08 AM
yeah Xavier said he got 3. so why not just put up a picture. thanks.

OliverSimon
03-06-2010, 10:15 AM
:) PT57 mold + FXP = Very Rare... "PT57F"

- Select elite players used it a few years back. I'll play test and provide a review under "racquets" when I find time.

"nethawkwenatchee"

Is that what Acasuso and Wawrinka were using in 2008?

star 5 15
03-06-2010, 12:31 PM
my coach is who good friends with fernando gonzalez and nicolas massu and other good players from chile has 3 of the PT10s with flexpoints. The same frames Acasuso used for a short period.Next time I string one for him I'll be sure to take some pictures. His have the collars on the grips and are wrapped with calfskin.

Greek Goliath
03-06-2010, 03:46 PM
Wait... so the PT57F is an actual racquet? Or is this just a joke?

Cheers,

Greek Goliath

OliverSimon
03-06-2010, 08:18 PM
my coach is who good friends with fernando gonzalez and nicolas massu and other good players from chile has 3 of the PT10s with flexpoints. The same frames Acasuso used for a short period.Next time I string one for him I'll be sure to take some pictures. His have the collars on the grips and are wrapped with calfskin.

Cool! I'll be waiting for the pictures. :)

greg280
03-07-2010, 11:21 AM
pt57f is an actual racquet.

skyzoo
03-07-2010, 06:37 PM
did it include the fxp tech or did it just have a pj of an fxp?

UD1
03-07-2010, 10:08 PM
I just picked up this racquet last week! This racquet really has Flexpoint holes, I think the A and E don't. Other than that I really don't know what the differences are in terms of layup, stiffness etc....

Does anyone else have any info on this racquet?

MichaelChang
03-10-2010, 12:42 PM
I just picked up this racquet last week! This racquet really has Flexpoint holes, I think the A and E don't. Other than that I really don't know what the differences are in terms of layup, stiffness etc....

Does anyone else have any info on this racquet?

Nobody has any info on this racket because it does not exist. Unless you post a picture.

BobFL
03-10-2010, 01:54 PM
Nobody has any info on this racket because it does not exist. Unless you post a picture.

Item number: 130369252576

MichaelChang
03-10-2010, 05:53 PM
thanks man. But how can we tell this is 57F?

OliverSimon
03-10-2010, 07:02 PM
thanks man. But how can we tell this is 57F?

Where can I find the pictures?

BobFL
03-10-2010, 07:36 PM
thanks man. But how can we tell this is 57F?

YAVW. I am not sure about that but it looks like 57F to me...

Bob

BobFL
03-10-2010, 07:40 PM
Where can I find the pictures?

Use the item number I posted and you will find a few....

UD1
03-10-2010, 08:24 PM
I don't think I can post pics because of my post count. I can take pics and email them for somebody to post.

Did Julius Caesar not exist cause I couldn't post pics his pics? :)

BobFL
03-10-2010, 09:19 PM
I don't think I can post pics because of my post count. I can take pics and email them for somebody to post.

Did Julius Caesar not exist cause I couldn't post pics his pics? :)

Great!! :D

You can send them to me and I will post them in nooooooooo time :)

zloba_2001 at yahoo.com

UD1
03-10-2010, 10:47 PM
Pics sent!

Thanks BobFL!

skyzoo
03-11-2010, 07:01 AM
I don't think I can post pics because of my post count. I can take pics and email them for somebody to post.

Did Julius Caesar not exist cause I couldn't post pics his pics? :)
bluerocket71@yahoo.com thanks man

nethawkwenatchee
03-11-2010, 07:22 AM
Where can I find the pictures?
PT57F Engineering Code

MichaelChang
03-11-2010, 07:30 AM
ok thanks. finally so this thing is real. :)

dr325i
03-11-2010, 07:34 AM
ok thanks. finally so this thing is real. :)

Of course it is real -- there is PT57A, B, E, F...
We mainly know the details about the A & E, now we will learn about the F, too

nethawkwenatchee
03-11-2010, 07:38 AM
Of course it is real -- there is PT57A, B, E, F...
We mainly know the details about the A & E, now we will learn about the F, too

Hey DR! So, are you at you're new location now? Lot's of red clay courts?? :)

BobFL
03-11-2010, 08:04 AM
OK, here they are:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/bobfl/3-1.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/bobfl/2-3.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/bobfl/1-4.jpg

Thanks UD1! :)

jimbo333
03-11-2010, 08:22 AM
Of course it is real -- there is PT57A, B, E, F...
We mainly know the details about the A & E, now we will learn about the F, too

And don't forget the PT57C and D:)

MichaelChang
03-11-2010, 08:51 AM
SO what is PT57-B?

dr325i
03-11-2010, 11:29 AM
Hey DR! So, are you at you're new location now? Lot's of red clay courts?? :)

I am in Prague now, but coming back (home) on Saturday... Then moving in April:)

No red clay here -- just snow :)
JK, it will be red clay everywhere...

nethawkwenatchee
03-17-2010, 06:22 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/142eoh5.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/ztddv7.jpg

Figjam
03-18-2010, 01:01 AM
something must be different because I have a Pt57A with real flexpoint dimples

0d1n
03-18-2010, 07:17 AM
So...who killed Kennedy again ??? :)

jmk2888
03-18-2010, 08:41 AM
http://i43.tinypic.com/mky81c.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/142eoh5.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/ztddv7.jpg

Are those REAL Flex Point dimples ?

I have a PT57A with same PJ but my nipples, sorry dimples have fallen off :confused:

MichaelChang
03-18-2010, 10:02 AM
Are those REAL Flex Point dimples ?

I have a PT57A with same PJ but my nipples, sorry dimples have fallen off :confused:

:):)
......

LPShanet
03-24-2010, 05:18 PM
Item number: 130369252576

No evidence I can see that this is a PT57F. It just says PT 57, and you can't tell from the pics that the Flexpoint is real or fake. What makes you think it's an "F"?

nethawkwenatchee
03-24-2010, 05:54 PM
Are those REAL Flex Point dimples ?



Yes, they are real fxp dimples.

vsbabolat
03-25-2010, 06:14 AM
Yes, they are real fxp dimples.

I little info about those dimples........
Head did frames with the FXP holes, but they didn't have flex points there. Sela, Guga, and Wawrinka had or have frames like these. Guga had both a Radical and Prestige with the FXP holes, but they didn't flex there and both had Pro Tour lay ups. Wawrinka, he has the Pro Tour lay up as well if I remember what I had been told

nethawkwenatchee
03-25-2010, 07:27 AM
I little info about those dimples........

Thanks for that VS! That makes sense now. The frames don't feel overly flexy, infact I'd say a bit less flexy than 57A, in that way. Anyway, I enjoy that aspect of these frames... friendly feeling volleys! Great from the ground and serves as well... for me.

Xenakis
03-25-2010, 08:56 AM
I've got one of Guga's Radical FXPs, a PT167A (it came from his brother who did some coaching at my club apparently.) Has the dimples but they are different to the ones on my FXP Prestige (non pro stock.)

You can see straight through the little holes on the Guga frame but not on the usual/proper Flexpoint model.

vsbabolat
03-25-2010, 09:14 AM
I've got one of Guga's Radical FXPs, a PT167A (it came from his brother who did some coaching at my club apparently.) Has the dimples but they are different to the ones on my FXP Prestige (non pro stock.)

You can see straight through the little holes on the Guga frame but not on the usual/proper Flexpoint model.

On the commercial retail Flexpoint Radical MP you could see staight through the flexpoint holes. While on the Commercial retail Flexpoint Prestige you could not see through the flexpoint holes.

Xenakis
03-25-2010, 09:48 AM
On the commercial retail Flexpoint Radical MP you could see staight through the flexpoint holes. While on the Commercial retail Flexpoint Prestige you could not see through the flexpoint holes.

Ah, that would be why then. I've not seen a proper Radical flexpoint up close. Are the flexpoints on the PT frames just drilled through and not bendy (or whatever) like the retail ones are supposed to be?

nethawkwenatchee
03-25-2010, 12:25 PM
Are the flexpoints on the PT frames just drilled through and not bendy (or whatever) like the retail ones are supposed to be?

Well, I can see that they are drilled in but I can't see all the way through or anything (not sure if you can see all the way through on any of the fxp frames?) Yeah, the 57's aren't as flexy as you would expect. Not sure if that means the holes are operational or not?


http://i40.tinypic.com/142eoh5.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/ztddv7.jpg

LPShanet
03-25-2010, 02:35 PM
Ah, that would be why then. I've not seen a proper Radical flexpoint up close. Are the flexpoints on the PT frames just drilled through and not bendy (or whatever) like the retail ones are supposed to be?

Let's keep in mind that it was arguable whether or not even the "real" Flexpoint actually did anything. (Physics certainly dictates that it didn't do what the the advertising diagrams suggested.)

Jakesteroni
03-27-2010, 12:40 PM
How do you guys obtain these rackets? Is it possible for me to get the I.prestige since its discontinued?

dr325i
03-27-2010, 01:19 PM
How do you guys obtain these rackets? Is it possible for me to get the I.prestige since its discontinued?

look around -- there are some always on E Bay...

Jakesteroni
03-27-2010, 03:09 PM
I have looked and its either midplus or the xtralong midplus very rare will I come across the I.prestige mid

Mdubb23
03-27-2010, 03:17 PM
Well, I can see that they are drilled in but I can't see all the way through or anything (not sure if you can see all the way through on any of the fxp frames?) Yeah, the 57's aren't as flexy as you would expect. Not sure if that means the holes are operational or not?

Do the PT57Fs have real Liquidmetal ridges?

star 5 15
03-27-2010, 07:47 PM
Do the PT57Fs have real Liquidmetal ridges?

the fxp pt10 i had did not have ridges.

OliverSimon
03-27-2010, 08:06 PM
It looks like an awesome frame.

Mdubb23
03-27-2010, 08:49 PM
the fxp pt10 i had did not have ridges.

But it didn't have holes either.

nethawkwenatchee
03-27-2010, 09:53 PM
Do the PT57Fs have real Liquidmetal ridges?

Yeah, they do have the concaved ridges. I'll try and get some pics up that better represent the ridges. I'm not sure how (or if) the fxp plays in but... wow, very solid feeling frame!

nethawkwenatchee
03-27-2010, 10:39 PM
Do the PT57Fs have real Liquidmetal ridges?

Here are some new pics. Are these the liquidmetal ridges around the fxp holes?

http://i41.tinypic.com/21n19x1.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/mb36gn.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/eq2l5h.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/nz3ng8.jpg

vsbabolat
03-28-2010, 08:07 AM
Yeah, they do have the concaved ridges. I'll try and get some pics up that better represent the ridges. I'm not sure how (or if) the fxp plays in but... wow, very solid feeling frame!

The LiquidMetal Ridges would be located at 10, 2, 8, and 4 o'clock respectively. Your racquets, the PT57F do not have LiquidMetal Ridges!

nethawkwenatchee
03-30-2010, 08:20 PM
The LiquidMetal Ridges would be located at 10, 2, 8, and 4 o'clock respectively. Your racquets, the PT57F do not have LiquidMetal Ridges!

Yeah, I've never seen a lm frame up close. I did have a few that were painted to look as such but... you know how close those are. Thanks for the briefing VS :)

DownTheLine
03-30-2010, 09:16 PM
Edit: Nvm...

marosmith
07-11-2010, 10:27 PM
I wanted to confirm- is the f model an "a" mold just with foexpoints, or an "e" mold- or due to the flexpoints being there is it an entirely different model altogether? I am looking at these but have seen committing info and if I were to match to pt57a I already have, would I really be matching or would I be getting an entirely different frame?

Thanks for the help on this

skyzoo
07-12-2010, 05:45 AM
I wanted to confirm- is the f model an "a" mold just with foexpoints, or an "e" mold- or due to the flexpoints being there is it an entirely different model altogether? I am looking at these but have seen committing info and if I were to match to pt57a I already have, would I really be matching or would I be getting an entirely different frame?

Thanks for the help on this

PT57A does feel less stiff in comparison to the PT 57F. You wouldn't be matching.

jemsiter
07-24-2010, 11:22 AM
PT57A is much more softer. So you can't match a PT57F to a PT57A