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srvnvly
02-18-2010, 05:55 AM
Saw these on Yahoo:

http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/photo?slug=a7b4760ca1254bd0a7b7f1b95a53321c.memphi s_tennis_tnlm107&prov=ap#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2C ap%3A20050301%3Aten%2Cphoto%2Cbec8c6f45a30488796de c8eba0c2bb94.memphis_tennis_tnlm103%3A1

http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/photo?slug=a7b4760ca1254bd0a7b7f1b95a53321c.memphi s_tennis_tnlm107&prov=ap#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2C ap%3A20050301%3Aten%2Cphoto%2Ca45b256c2d5e46a58326 54b8dc5a7f5f.memphis_tennis_tnlm108%3A1

http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/photo?slug=a7b4760ca1254bd0a7b7f1b95a53321c.memphi s_tennis_tnlm107&prov=ap#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2C ap%3A20050301%3Aten%2Cphoto%2Ca7b4760ca1254bd0a7b7 f1b95a53321c.memphis_tennis_tnlm107%3A1

little_e
02-18-2010, 06:07 AM
Don't know what frame it is but it is a Wilson.

kingdaddy41788
02-18-2010, 06:11 AM
Don't know what frame it is but it is a Wilson.

And your basis for that statement is...

slice bh compliment
02-18-2010, 06:20 AM
Likely to be the same WIlson 90 he used in Oz. No contract. No stencil there.

So, maybe Blake's agent advised a very common move: to black it out until Wilson kicks in a deal for him.

LOL...or maybe he likes the stick but cannot stnd the sight of the red, black and zebra stripe cosmetics, hahah.

kingdaddy41788
02-18-2010, 06:23 AM
]Likely to be the same WIlson 90 he used in Oz. No contract. No stencil there.

So, maybe Blake's agent advised a very common move: to black it out until Wilson kicks in a deal for him.

LOL...or maybe he likes the stick but cannot stnd the sight of the red, black and zebra stripe cosmetics, hahah.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100218/capt.a45b256c2d5e46a5832654b8dc5a7f5f.memphis_tenn is_tnlm108.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100218/capt.bec8c6f45a30488796dec8eba0c2bb94.memphis_tenn is_tnlm103.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100218/capt.a7b4760ca1254bd0a7b7f1b95a53321c.memphis_tenn is_tnlm107.jpg

He was using a 90? That doesn't add up... And the one in that picture definitely isn't a 90

slice bh compliment
02-18-2010, 06:25 AM
He was using a 90? That doesn't add up... And the one in that picture definitely isn't a 90
I know. I assumed it was a 95 like his Tyger, his WIlson and his Dunlops....but I heard from a Dunlop rep that he switched to the BLX 90 -- the one with Roger's signature on it. Of course...no proof or anything. I'm just going on conjecture.

Also, I did not count the strings, but this one looks like it has 18 mains. ANyone? Anyone?

andfor
02-18-2010, 06:25 AM
It's either a Kennex Black Ace or Redondo. He was encouraged to try it and switch by Jay Berger.

kingdaddy41788
02-18-2010, 06:29 AM
I know. I assumed it was a 95 like his Tyger, his WIlson and his Dunlops....but I heard from a Dunlop rep that he switched to the BLX 90 -- the one with Roger's signature on it. Of course...no proof or anything. I'm just going on conjecture.

Also, I did not count the strings, but this one looks like it has 18 mains. ANyone? Anyone?

Well he was definitely using a 90, or Wilson made a custom racquet just for him (unlikely)

http://www.australianopen.com/images/pics/large/b_JamesBlake_14_01.jpg

http://www.australianopen.com/images/pics/large/b_blake_11_01.jpg

And I agree - looks like an 18X20 to me...

vsbabolat
02-18-2010, 06:30 AM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100218/capt.a45b256c2d5e46a5832654b8dc5a7f5f.memphis_tenn is_tnlm108.jpg

He was using a 90? That doesn't add up... And the one in that picture definitely isn't a 90

Yes, Blake had been using the Wilson BLX 6.1 Tour 90 since the beginning of 2010. He was even still using them in Rotterdam.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/James_Blake_2010_Brisbane_4.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/James_Blake_2010_Brisbane_3.jpg

ngtaj88
02-18-2010, 06:35 AM
Just looks like his old Dunlop painted black to me. Hey maybe he went back to his "Prince" racquet hahahahaha

dgoran
02-18-2010, 06:47 AM
definitely not k90 or blx90, just compare the throat...

slice bh compliment
02-18-2010, 06:49 AM
The new black one does look like an 18x20 ... like the old Dunlop ag 200.
Guys, thanks for the clarification. Two totally different sticks.
vsbabolat, thanks for posting those closeups of the 90...16 mains on that one for sure.

SO much for my theory about blacking out the WIlsons for contract negotiations.

Maybe it's a new one....maybe an old one. Keep us posted.

vsbabolat
02-18-2010, 07:01 AM
The new black one does look like an 18x20 ... like the old Dunlop ag 200.
Guys, thanks for the clarification. Two totally different sticks.
vsbabolat, thanks for posting those closeups of the 90...16 mains on that one for sure.

SO much for my theory about blacking out the WIlsons for contract negotiations.

Maybe it's a new one....maybe an old one. Keep us posted.

Looks like he could have gone back to his old Dunlop to me.....

little_e
02-18-2010, 07:15 AM
Nevermind....

raging
02-18-2010, 07:39 AM
any bets on a prestige??...
didn't think so!...

Kenny022593
02-18-2010, 07:55 AM
It is probably (guessing) his old dunlop because I cannot see any PWS's on the blakced out stick.

esm
02-18-2010, 08:30 AM
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http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100218/capt.a45b256c2d5e46a5832654b8dc5a7f5f.memphis_tenn is_tnlm108.jpg

is this a "whited out" Nike Breath Cage? :confused: :)

Courtcheck
02-18-2010, 09:31 AM
is this a "whited out" Nike Breath Cage? :confused: :)

That's what I was thinking,
JB is a sponsorship nightmare.
If I was FILA I would drop him, The FILA TR thing is a disaster.

jefferson
02-18-2010, 09:36 AM
Could it be the BLX pro tour? 18 X 20

rovex
02-18-2010, 09:38 AM
That's what I was thinking,
JB is a sponsorship nightmare.
If I was FILA I would drop him, The FILA TR thing is a disaster.

Agree. FILA must of known Blake's best days were long gone when they signed him (reason why Nike dropped him). What makes it more surprising is how they made him his own line which i'm pretty sure hasn't done very well. Money wasted big time by FILA.

slice bh compliment
02-18-2010, 10:16 AM
...JB is a sponsorship nightmare.....

True. Nike shoes, mystery stick....hmmm...looks bad. Probably grabbing for what makes him play the best. I respect that. Hopefully he has been up front with FILA, et al. And at least he's not cheating on the clothing deal w/ FILA.

In the Dunlop offices, I'm sure he is regarded as a saint compared to Haas or Safin, though.

The TR thing is really touching. Tribute to his dad and all. I got one of the blue shirts and I like it. But, I think it confuses the average tennis consumer/fan and non-tennis fan.

Well, I'll always admire him. Mensch. Streaky player, but a mensch nonetheless.

I'll buy FILA and Dunlop over Nike and Wilson...not because of him but because of my own preferences.

That's probably what he's doing with the Nike shoes and whatever frame that is (Dunlop, custom or otherwise).

Go James. One more good year?!

rovex
02-18-2010, 02:25 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gusta***raphics/4369005922/

Hmm, that's ain't a Wilson.

coloskier
02-18-2010, 03:00 PM
Don't know what frame it is but it is a Wilson.

I don't see a PWS on that frame.

samster
02-18-2010, 03:12 PM
I don't see PWS on the black frame either.

slice bh compliment
02-18-2010, 03:15 PM
No pws, so we can rule out Wilson.

Is anyone familiar with Tyger frames? I remember hearing through a guy I used to play with...who played with Thomas Blake ... that James used some custom Tyger frame w/ various pjs over it.

PlayforIt
02-18-2010, 03:20 PM
Since no pws then it might be the blx blade

blaby
02-18-2010, 03:21 PM
i still dont get why fila doesnt drop blake
hes not really helping them much

little_e
02-18-2010, 03:22 PM
Wilson prototype.

samster
02-18-2010, 03:40 PM
Blake from Memphis:

http://i47.tinypic.com/atszd3.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/4kuq34.jpg

Looks like 18 mains.

vsbabolat
02-18-2010, 04:10 PM
Sure looks just like Blake's old Dunlop to me.....

SuperFly
02-18-2010, 04:33 PM
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http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100218/capt.a45b256c2d5e46a5832654b8dc5a7f5f.memphis_tenn is_tnlm108.jpg


It's depressing to see Blake like this, no racket sponsor and he has to DUCT TAPE his Nikes so they don't interfere with the Fila deal. :(

BDAZ
02-18-2010, 04:49 PM
It's either a Kennex Black Ace or Redondo. He was encouraged to try it and switch by Jay Berger.

not sure if this is supposed to be funny or a joke, but to me, that's exactly what it looks like. doesn't look like his dunlop. obviously not any type of wilson. tight 18x20 pattern, slight curve to the throat. i don't know.

JoelDali
02-18-2010, 04:59 PM
It's depressing to see Blake like this, no racket sponsor and he has to DUCT TAPE his Nikes so they don't interfere with the Fila deal. :(

Friggin' trainwreck.

little_e
02-18-2010, 05:09 PM
Go to GSS, Wilson prototype.

slice bh compliment
02-18-2010, 06:36 PM
It's depressing to see Blake like this, no racket sponsor and he has to DUCT TAPE his Nikes so they don't interfere with the Fila deal. :(


You're right. That is one seriously thick anti-swooshtastic black tape job.
I just assumed it was yet another heinous Nike design.

vsbabolat
02-18-2010, 06:50 PM
Go to GSS, Wilson prototype.

I went to GSS and went to the Memphis 2010 stringing log. It does not identify Blake as the one with the Wilson Prototype. "Wilson sent a blacked out racquet for a player that Bob customized and I strung. It took an hour to string. Individual grommets at 9 and 3 that kept on falling out. Quite a challenge!"
Check this photo out:
www.flickr.com/photos/gustaf -a -g- raphics/4369005922/ *for some reason the filter wont let the full link show. Take out the - to go to the link

Looks like a grommet strip is in there to me and not individual grommets.

Also the last post on Memphis said this:
As mentioned, there have been a few "Blackout" frames come through which is not uncommon since many players get new contracts at the beginning of the year and some are either negotiating are still looking for their perfect frame. Some of the frames are quite easy to identify and some are a mystery. As a matter of policy we don't disclose the info. We stencil the racquets with the logo requested by the player and the racquets are logged as BLACK PROTOTYPE on our records.

teto29
02-18-2010, 07:46 PM
hahahahaha the whited out nike's!!

kingdaddy41788
02-18-2010, 07:56 PM
I went to GSS and went to the Memphis 2010 stringing log. It does not identify Blake as the one with the Wilson Prototype. "Wilson sent a blacked out racquet for a player that Bob customized and I strung. It took an hour to string. Individual grommets at 9 and 3 that kept on falling out. Quite a challenge!"
Check this photo out:
www.flickr.com/photos/gustaf -a -g- raphics/4369005922/ *for some reason the filter wont let the full link show. Take out the - to go to the link

Looks like a grommet strip is in there to me and not individual grommets.

Also the last post on Memphis said this:
As mentioned, there have been a few "Blackout" frames come through which is not uncommon since many players get new contracts at the beginning of the year and some are either negotiating are still looking for their perfect frame. Some of the frames are quite easy to identify and some are a mystery. As a matter of policy we don't disclose the info. We stencil the racquets with the logo requested by the player and the racquets are logged as BLACK PROTOTYPE on our records.

Very interesting...

JoelDali
02-18-2010, 07:56 PM
Definitely looks like a Dunlop throat.

LafayetteHitter
02-18-2010, 08:12 PM
Likely to be the same WIlson 90 he used in Oz. No contract. No stencil there.

So, maybe Blake's agent advised a very common move: to black it out until Wilson kicks in a deal for him.

LOL...or maybe he likes the stick but cannot stnd the sight of the red, black and zebra stripe cosmetics, hahah.

I'm not photo expert but that is NOT a 90" frame by any stretch of the imagination.

AJK1
02-18-2010, 08:13 PM
That's what I was thinking,
JB is a sponsorship nightmare.
If I was FILA I would drop him, The FILA TR thing is a disaster.

Blake is just a nightmare in general, totally overrated.

LafayetteHitter
02-18-2010, 08:18 PM
Guys that is an Aeropro Drive GT with a blacked out paint job! lol I just figured I would make a wild claim like many of the posts in this thread.

Mansewerz
02-18-2010, 08:18 PM
I went to GSS and went to the Memphis 2010 stringing log. It does not identify Blake as the one with the Wilson Prototype. "Wilson sent a blacked out racquet for a player that Bob customized and I strung. It took an hour to string. Individual grommets at 9 and 3 that kept on falling out. Quite a challenge!"
Check this photo out:
www.flickr.com/photos/gustaf -a -g- raphics/4369005922/ *for some reason the filter wont let the full link show. Take out the - to go to the link

Looks like a grommet strip is in there to me and not individual grommets.

Also the last post on Memphis said this:
As mentioned, there have been a few "Blackout" frames come through which is not uncommon since many players get new contracts at the beginning of the year and some are either negotiating are still looking for their perfect frame. Some of the frames are quite easy to identify and some are a mystery. As a matter of policy we don't disclose the info. We stencil the racquets with the logo requested by the player and the racquets are logged as BLACK PROTOTYPE on our records.

How thin was his old beam? That beam looks pretty thin to me.

kingdaddy41788
02-18-2010, 08:31 PM
How thin was his old beam? That beam looks pretty thin to me.

I was thinking the same thing, but I wasn't quite sure, so I didn't want to say anything (for fear that all the TW posters would come down on me like Thor's Hammer)...

CGMemphis
02-18-2010, 08:36 PM
Ya the "Gusta***raphics" link on flickr is my account, it looks like the tennis forum word checker is flagging out f - a - g in any combination. Sorry, go to flickr and search for "chasing photography" all my Blake shots are up there.

CGMemphis
02-18-2010, 08:42 PM
Was curious last night myself as Blake was carrying a Dunlop bag, but his racquet is black with lead at 3 & 9.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/CGClone/RMKT%202010/CPJB421710.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/CGClone/RMKT%202010/CPJB721710.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/CGClone/RMKT%202010/CPJB521710.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/CGClone/RMKT%202010/Blakeserve.jpg

Orion
02-18-2010, 08:58 PM
Is that CelluarSouth logo not a "modified" Adidas logo?? (Next to last pic in previous post) I sense a trademark infringement lawsuit in the near future.

Blake is a sponsorship train wreck. The Fila clothes don't look bad but they should have featured the classic "F" and underscored it with the TR logo. My guess is that he's using a Dunlop. Who else makes a beam that thin?? That's gotta be at least 18mm thin.

rovex
02-19-2010, 04:00 AM
Is that CelluarSouth logo not a "modified" Adidas logo?? (Next to last pic in previous post) I sense a trademark infringement lawsuit in the near future.

I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday. At first i thought it was Adidas sponsoring the event but then saw the Nike logo on another panel.

jefferson
02-19-2010, 05:05 AM
Could it be a blade tour?

Tyrus
02-19-2010, 05:18 AM
it could be, it couldn't be.

I feel bad for Blake, this is a hard time to go through this phase. I personally wish him the best, but wouldn't be surprised if he starts throwing the kitchen sink at his opponents to salvage whats left of his career

djokovicgonzalez2010
02-19-2010, 05:36 AM
I wonder if it's worse to be unable to pull off your game anymore (blake) or just have it stop working (hewitt, though injuries are a huge issue for him)

vsbabolat
02-19-2010, 05:39 AM
Was curious last night myself as Blake was carrying a Dunlop bag, but his racquet is black with lead at 3 & 9.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/CGClone/RMKT%202010/CPJB421710.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/CGClone/RMKT%202010/CPJB721710.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/CGClone/RMKT%202010/CPJB521710.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/CGClone/RMKT%202010/Blakeserve.jpg

Thanks for posting your photos up and thanks for confirming that Blake was carrying a Dunlop Bag.

Jeewalk
02-19-2010, 07:08 PM
it doesnt have the pws at 3 and 9 so its not a 6.1 might be a kblade 93 head shape looks like it

DNShade
02-19-2010, 09:18 PM
No need to over think this guys...he's using a Dunlop bag - and it looks like it's the same old Dunlop tour mold he's been using for years. Seems like he's headed back to Dunlop if they can make a deal.

LPShanet
02-19-2010, 10:49 PM
i still dont get why fila doesnt drop blake
hes not really helping them much

All this talk of "dropping" doesn't take into account how clothing deals work. They sign a contract for a set period of time, and pay a predetermined amount. It's not like he's on an hourly or weekly wage. So the contract lasts that long unless one or both parties breaks the terms of the agreement. Unless there are performance guarantees written in, there's no way for them to "drop" him. And even if they could, they'd still have to pay him the same amount, so it would be pointless.

snoopy
02-19-2010, 11:27 PM
Blake is a sponsorship train wreck.

Agreed.

Although the outfit looks pretty good, I would never buy it. I generally don't like prominently displayed logos on my gear but I've come to accept that there's no way of avoiding it. But these outfits don't have 1, they have 2 logos! Plus the TR is in honor of Blake's father. Thomas Reynolds Blake may have been a good dude and it's nice to see Blake honoring him, but why in the world would I want to wear clothing named after him?

gogonzogo
02-20-2010, 06:45 AM
It's either a Kennex Black Ace or Redondo. He was encouraged to try it and switch by Jay Berger.


From the pics I would say you might be right. Looks very much like redondo.

Sidd Finch
02-20-2010, 06:59 AM
No need to over think this guys...he's using a Dunlop bag - and it looks like it's the same old Dunlop tour mold he's been using for years. Seems like he's headed back to Dunlop if they can make a deal.

I would agree. Blake always seemed most comfortable with his old Dunlop mold.

Rock Strongo
02-20-2010, 09:51 AM
You know what they say. Once you go black, you never go back.

kingdaddy41788
02-20-2010, 09:57 AM
There is no way that is a blade 93. No way. At all. Way too big.

It's his old Dunlop if I had to bet.

burlesonsallstar
02-20-2010, 09:59 PM
could be a prestige or maybe it is a pacific racquet....or it is a dunlop with a dunlop bag.. hmmm nah

Buckethead
02-21-2010, 08:47 AM
That frame is not a Wilson frame at all,where is the PWS???
I am not assunming anything else,but the lead tape on it clearly visible.

decades
02-21-2010, 08:54 AM
it's his old Dunlop mold....

jefferson
02-22-2010, 03:14 PM
Blake is listed on TW as using the Wilson 6.1 Tour! He and Fed are listed as pros using this racket.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Wilson_BLX_SixOne_Tour/descpageRCWILSON-61TBLX.html

Xenakis
02-22-2010, 03:18 PM
I'll add my vote to the old Dunlop camp, it's got the same fairly long skinny throat and bumper/head guard and the headsize looks the same.

http://www.mahoganycity.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/james-blake-atp-masters-series-_1.jpg

kingdaddy41788
02-22-2010, 03:28 PM
That frame is not a Wilson frame at all,where is the PWS???
I am not assunming anything else,but the lead tape on it clearly visible.

Wilson makes several frames without the PWS these days - this is no longer valid...

niktub
03-10-2010, 09:41 AM
PK Black ace 98?

andfor
03-10-2010, 02:06 PM
PK Black ace 98?

........got my vote.

niktub
03-10-2010, 02:18 PM
just changed my mind...dunlop mold same as before

chancep2120
03-10-2010, 05:49 PM
+1 for Dunlop Tour Mold

Greg Raven
03-13-2010, 10:27 AM
It's probably his old 200G Muscle Weave. From what I heard, he has only two of them left, so he restrings them only when absolutely necessary.