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Fabfed
02-19-2010, 08:53 PM
Ok guys, here’s the new thread as promised. I know some of you have already seen pics of one of these racquets in an earlier thread, but the difference is I have 3 of these bad boys now, so there is a better basis for a comparison and some new conclusions or just confirmation of old ones? As you can see from the pics, by the extent of the bleeding onto the grip (well, that and the fact that Roger wrote the year below his signature), the racquet in the middle is the oldest and the one you guys saw in the thread earlier last year, its a 2008 season racquet. The other 2 are 2009 season racquets. I’m still trying to find out specifically which events the racquets were used at. Anyway, I will take lots of pics as usual, and also throw in comparison pics with the retail K90s (US versions) , AK90s etc. Bear with me, I will put in more pics soon :)

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/P1030622.jpg

armsty
02-19-2010, 08:58 PM
If I signed my racquet would you buy it?

robJAR
02-19-2010, 09:02 PM
If I signed my racquet would you buy it?

Haha, you're awesome.

Can't wait to see more pictures :)

-robJAR

Fabfed
02-19-2010, 09:15 PM
If I signed my racquet would you buy it?

Yes, I would! Email me once you've won 17 slams and a career slam (or heck, a calendar slam) to boot. :)

Kenny022593
02-19-2010, 09:17 PM
I must admit i am sad. Sad that i cannot afford these nice things.

Dominik
02-19-2010, 09:18 PM
Ahhhhhh this is so cool! :D
You're very lucky to have these.

Another verification that they are pretty much stock k90's?

steve728
02-19-2010, 09:28 PM
Fabfed --- looking forward to your conclusions. Also looking forward to when you can obtain one of Fed's BLX racquets! ;)

dextor
02-19-2010, 10:42 PM
thanks, will be checking back tomorrow for pics

betovanbuuren
02-19-2010, 11:00 PM
how you get this frames? wilson contacts?

courtking
02-19-2010, 11:08 PM
I don't know.. By looking at the overgrip of the 2nd and 3rd one.. I got some doubt about authenticity of these rackets..

Fabfed
02-19-2010, 11:17 PM
I don't know.. By looking at the overgrip of the 2nd and 3rd one.. I got some doubt about authenticity of these rackets..

Really? Oh dear, hope I was not duped into getting fake "Fed racquets". Can you help me verify whether the racquet on the left is authentic? It must be since the overgrip is pristine white. God I hope you can verify that it is real, then at least I have one out of three which is real. Please, please say it's real...

rovex
02-19-2010, 11:26 PM
I don't know.. By looking at the overgrip of the 2nd and 3rd one.. I got some doubt about authenticity of these rackets..

How on earth can you tell by just looking at the overgrips? is it because they're dirty?

aimr75
02-19-2010, 11:32 PM
thanks for posting these pics and info

just curious, how did you come across the opportunity to buy these?

rovex
02-19-2010, 11:32 PM
See, since Fed uses stock K90, it will be very had to tell whether one or two of those three are not the real deal.

Deodorant
02-19-2010, 11:41 PM
i dont doubt you, but can we see the but caps, that'll prove their authenticty.

aimr75
02-19-2010, 11:49 PM
i dont doubt you, but can we see the but caps, that'll prove their authenticty.

obviously these racquets were rogers, but anyone can switch a butt cap, it wouldnt prove anything

sixone90
02-20-2010, 02:57 AM
Did you win it from Roger's auctions?

rovex
02-20-2010, 03:03 AM
Did you win it from Roger's auctions?

Well since Fabfed doesn't appear to sure about the authenticity i reckon he got it from the Bay. Because if it's from Federer's own auction site it's obviously going to be real.

samster
02-20-2010, 04:55 AM
Fabfed, do they all weigh the same?

Rorsach
02-20-2010, 04:57 AM
Well since Fabfed doesn't appear to sure about the authenticity i reckon he got it from the Bay. Because if it's from Federer's own auction site it's obviously going to be real.

Fabfed forgot the "sarcastic"smiley with his post. He's sure they're authentic.

Fabfed
02-20-2010, 05:26 AM
Fabfed forgot the "sarcastic"smiley with his post. He's sure they're authentic.

ah....thats why.....gotta remember to do that the next time :)

Fabfed
02-20-2010, 05:34 AM
Fabfed, do they all weigh the same?

Hey samster, I've not weighed the other 2 yet, I got the last one just a few days ago. Will definitely be doing that and posting pics of their weights :)

Azzurri
02-20-2010, 05:39 AM
I don't know.. By looking at the overgrip of the 2nd and 3rd one.. I got some doubt about authenticity of these rackets..

you must be no more than 8 years old. be quiet, the adults are speaking.

robJAR
02-20-2010, 06:35 AM
Really? Oh dear, hope I was not duped into getting fake "Fed racquets". Can you help me verify whether the racquet on the left is authentic? It must be since the overgrip is pristine white. God I hope you can verify that it is real, then at least I have one out of three which is real. Please, please say it's real...

Haha, i even cracked up a bit reading that. Can't wait to see more pictures :)

-robJAR

Fabfed
02-20-2010, 09:39 AM
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq3.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq4.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq8-1.jpg

Fabfed
02-20-2010, 09:43 AM
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq5.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq7.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq6.jpg

samster
02-20-2010, 09:45 AM
Very nice. Thanks for the pics.

Chezbeeno
02-20-2010, 09:52 AM
have you weighed them yet?

EPaps
02-20-2010, 10:31 AM
They look pretty real to me..

TMCW140
02-20-2010, 10:42 AM
So is the one with the redish grip a result of the leather undergrip, or was clay?
Sorry, i know you've mentioned the grips running before, it just looks abit like clay! :)

hityellowball
02-20-2010, 10:42 AM
Nice collection Fabfed. Thanks for posting them

smack that
02-20-2010, 10:53 AM
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq5.jpg


how come the racquet's grip on the very right looks bigger than the others?, maybe because its closer right?

namhnit
02-20-2010, 11:06 AM
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq5.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq7.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq6.jpg

What is with the labeling on the throat of the rackets? "21.5 sun, 22.0 thu, 21.00 fri"

mtr1
02-20-2010, 11:59 AM
What is with the labeling on the throat of the rackets? "21.5 sun, 22.0 thu, 21.00 fri"

Tension? (in kilos)

Funbun
02-20-2010, 12:27 PM
Fabfed, I was already amazed by your old thread with that authentic Federer K90. Now you have 3. How in the world did you manage to get 2 more??

Claudius
02-20-2010, 12:31 PM
Not an expert on racquets, but why are these made in China?

King_roger
02-20-2010, 12:51 PM
What is with the labeling on the throat of the rackets? "21.5 sun, 22.0 thu, 21.00 fri"

That's the time when the rackets were strung...


Congrats Fabfed, very awesome arrivals again! :D

SuperDuy
02-20-2010, 01:17 PM
So SUN means sunday, FRI means friday THU means thursday?

PrinceMoron
02-20-2010, 02:40 PM
Can I offer you $100 for one of the string savers - you have 30!

Only kidding............. I will have to print out your photo and hand it to the next guy I see with 80 in one frame. Bad enough spending 20 minutes putting them all in, but even worse spending an hour taking nearly all of them out again.

myservenow
02-20-2010, 02:55 PM
These pictures make me feel better about my own k90 (not that I can hit a lick with it).

When I keep the same white overgrip on it for too long, the leather grip starts to bleed through the overgrip. I've actually wondered if Federer's actual racquet have the same issue. Guess so.

decades
02-20-2010, 02:59 PM
Ok guys, here’s the new thread as promised. I know some of you have already seen pics of one of these racquets in an earlier thread, but the difference is I have 3 of these bad boys now, so there is a better basis for a comparison and some new conclusions or just confirmation of old ones? As you can see from the pics, by the extent of the bleeding onto the grip (well, that and the fact that Roger wrote the year below his signature), the racquet in the middle is the oldest and the one you guys saw in the thread earlier last year, its a 2008 season racquet. The other 2 are 2009 season racquets. I’m still trying to find out specifically which events the racquets were used at. Anyway, I will take lots of pics as usual, and also throw in comparison pics with the retail K90s (US versions) , AK90s etc. Bear with me, I will put in more pics soon :)

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/P1030622.jpg

just keep the housekeeper away from them. She might look at the funny black squiggly stuff on the grips and think they need a good cleaning. :shock:

MichaelChang
02-20-2010, 03:02 PM
how come the racquet's grip on the very right looks bigger than the others?, maybe because its closer right?

yeah it does look a little bigger, probably because it is slighter closer to the camarer.

ipitythefool
02-20-2010, 03:13 PM
Would it be possible to see the lead tapes (if any) under the bumper/handle with any type of machinery such as x-ray? If so, would be great if OP could kindly take one of the sticks to a doc lol. If not, look forward to your comparisons to a stock K90.

I'd definitely take one of 'em along with the Nadal stick out for a hit, and even do a blind hitting test for the sake of tennis history :) No matter what is the price tag, a tennis stick belongs to tennis court. And you come to life once lol. Congrats!

dextor
02-20-2010, 03:44 PM
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq8-1.jpg

Do I see hint of lead tape under the bumper? That's a pretty long stretch of tape.

ttsupra98
02-20-2010, 04:00 PM
Do I see hint of lead tape under the bumper? That's a pretty long stretch of tape.



all that is is just a scratch on the frame, not tape

RFRF
02-20-2010, 06:56 PM
I don't know.. By looking at the overgrip of the 2nd and 3rd one.. I got some doubt about authenticity of these rackets..

R U FOR REAL????????? GROW A BRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

drakulie
02-20-2010, 07:05 PM
fABFED, THANKS FOR THE PHOTOS!!!

ANY CHANCE YOU COULD POST A CLOSE UP PHOTO OF ONE OF THE KNOTS?

THANKS!!!

lawrence
02-20-2010, 07:28 PM
You can tell it's Fed's because the paint on the very center of the racket is washed away. A product of non-stop sweet spot hits :D

J011yroger
02-20-2010, 07:30 PM
Awesome!!

J

sixone90
02-20-2010, 07:50 PM
Hey Fabfed, can we get a close up of the headguard/bumper of the racquets?

Thanks in advance

AlpineCadet
02-20-2010, 07:51 PM
Does it swing simliar to the k90? Does it have better feel? I'm betting it's got the same feel as the PS85 but with a 90 sq. in. head.

VGP
02-20-2010, 08:50 PM
I bet it's the opposite. The k90's weight distribution feels different than the PS85. If Federer has P1 "sneak a little" lead under the bumperguard then it'll enhance that weight distribution to the head.

As for how the Federer frames play, that would require FabFed to take them out to hit (also like one poster said to compare these to his Nadal frame)......

I get the impression that FabFed is too much the collector to actually play the frames. He'd run the risk of damaging the signatures on the handles or break the strings......even though he's been offered restringings from RJYU should the gut break, which it may do eventually.

Again, thanks FabFed for sharing!

courtking
02-20-2010, 09:06 PM
Really? Oh dear, hope I was not duped into getting fake "Fed racquets". Can you help me verify whether the racquet on the left is authentic? It must be since the overgrip is pristine white. God I hope you can verify that it is real, then at least I have one out of three which is real. Please, please say it's real...

As i said "doubt" b/c the color on the overgrip are difference.. but look at your close up following pictures it look more uniformly.. I am not an expert in Fed's racket anyhow.. I just stated my opinion b/c the change in color of the overgrip.. May be b/c of the flash or something..

Applecider
02-21-2010, 04:19 AM
That is some fantastic stuff, FabFed :)

Goddamn, the buttcap looks so much better than the stock K-factor.

Cup8489
02-21-2010, 04:44 AM
As i said "doubt" b/c the color on the overgrip are difference.. but look at your close up following pictures it look more uniformly.. I am not an expert in Fed's racket anyhow.. I just stated my opinion b/c the change in color of the overgrip.. May be b/c of the flash or something..

the leather grip underneath the overgrip is a wilson, which tends to bleed through the overgrips if the overgrip is left on too long. that's what your seeing, and the reason there are white streaks; those parts of the grip are where the grip overlaps. it's normal, and just means that this racket was used for a longer amount of time than the other two.

Fabfed
02-21-2010, 08:46 AM
fABFED, THANKS FOR THE PHOTOS!!!

ANY CHANCE YOU COULD POST A CLOSE UP PHOTO OF ONE OF THE KNOTS?

THANKS!!!

Here you go Mr drakulie...

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-18.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-19.jpg

Fabfed
02-21-2010, 08:53 AM
Hey Fabfed, can we get a close up of the headguard/bumper of the racquets?

Thanks in advance

Ok...some close-ups..

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-16.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-17.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-5.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-4.jpg

Kenny022593
02-21-2010, 08:54 AM
Is there any disadvantage to using double hitch knots for tie offs? (sorry for hijack)

Fabfed
02-21-2010, 08:59 AM
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-1.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-2.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-21.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-23.jpg

Greek Goliath
02-21-2010, 09:01 AM
^^^

Dang!

What I would give for a collection like that!

Cheers,

Greek Goliath

Fabfed
02-21-2010, 09:02 AM
Will post some comparative pics with the retail racquets tomorrow, not sure how useful those will be...

Oh...I will also post pics of the 3 Fed sticks weighed, saving that for last :) (anyone wanna guess what the weights will be?)

MichaelChang
02-21-2010, 09:05 AM
^^^

Dang!

What I would give for a collection like that!

Cheers,

Greek Goliath

Be rich like him. :)

Greek Goliath
02-21-2010, 09:09 AM
Be rich like him. :)

Hahaha dream on :)

Cheers,

Greek Goliath

Fabfed
02-21-2010, 10:24 AM
As i said "doubt" b/c the color on the overgrip are difference.. but look at your close up following pictures it look more uniformly.. I am not an expert in Fed's racket anyhow.. I just stated my opinion b/c the change in color of the overgrip.. May be b/c of the flash or something..

Point taken, sorry if I went a tad overboard with my reply. Amyway, Cup8489 gave a good explanation on the reason for the colour change.

Pioneer
02-21-2010, 10:59 AM
Yeah, the leather grip bleeds a lot. When my overgrip wears out I sometimes turn it over and use it for a while, and it's all orange because of the wilson leather.

tennisdad65
02-21-2010, 11:11 AM
weight? balance? pics are good.. but better with specs..

Six.One.Tour.90FAN
02-21-2010, 11:19 AM
FabFed = God

King_roger
02-21-2010, 11:59 AM
FabFed = God

I agree with you! :)

drakulie
02-21-2010, 12:19 PM
Fabfed, thanks for the photos!! much appreciated.

Congrats on the great collection, and as always, thanks for sharing with us. Look forward to the rest of your posts.

leonidas1982
02-21-2010, 12:23 PM
Will post some comparative pics with the retail racquets tomorrow, not sure how useful those will be...

Oh...I will also post pics of the 3 Fed sticks weighed, saving that for last :) (anyone wanna guess what the weights will be?)

12.7 - 12.8 oz

Badger
02-21-2010, 12:28 PM
Will post some comparative pics with the retail racquets tomorrow, not sure how useful those will be...

Oh...I will also post pics of the 3 Fed sticks weighed, saving that for last :) (anyone wanna guess what the weights will be?)

My guess is they'll all be slightly different. He said on his site when asked that he changes from surface to surface etc (and no, I'm not confused with his string tension) via "fixed weights inside the racket". So the three racquets between 12.8-13.4 ounces...?

Six.One.Tour.90FAN
02-21-2010, 12:30 PM
more weight for hard courts....clay and grass It'll be lighter

samster
02-21-2010, 12:32 PM
I will take a guess:

1) 363 grams.

2) 365 grams.

3) 367 grams.

star 5 15
02-21-2010, 12:41 PM
more weight for hard courts....clay and grass It'll be lighter

I do not know about clay but I do remember RJYU commenting saying that his racquets were a bit heavier for the Grass Court season. He didn't say how much heavier but that we were heavier.

Fabfed: I have always been curious about this. Obviously Roger uses the Alu Rough 16L crosses but are the mains VS Touch 16g or Wilson Natural 16g? It is pretty well known that Babolat makes Wilson's gut but from my expierence it seems to be slightly worse quality than Babolat's VS. What kind of gut is in his sticks?

Six.One.Tour.90FAN
02-21-2010, 12:46 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
sorry to hijack the thread but how did you like solinco tour bite?
I got a sample pack of them and have tour bite in one of my rackets right now, just wondering what to expect

vincent_tennis
02-21-2010, 09:35 PM
I do not know about clay but I do remember RJYU commenting saying that his racquets were a bit heavier for the Grass Court season. He didn't say how much heavier but that we were heavier.

Fabfed: I have always been curious about this. Obviously Roger uses the Alu Rough 16L crosses but are the mains VS Touch 16g or Wilson Natural 16g? It is pretty well known that Babolat makes Wilson's gut but from my expierence it seems to be slightly worse quality than Babolat's VS. What kind of gut is in his sticks?

Magical Gut ;)

nicolaisidek
02-22-2010, 01:47 AM
just how many rackets do you have....dang

J011yroger
02-22-2010, 06:04 AM
Is that a Euro HPS 6.0 95 that I spy in there?

J

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 06:41 AM
Is that a Euro HPS 6.0 95 that I spy in there?

J

Yes it is a HPS 95, good eyes :)

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 06:44 AM
Is there any disadvantage to using double hitch knots for tie offs? (sorry for hijack)

Hey Kenny022593, can't answer your question cos I don't know. Anyone has any idea?

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 06:51 AM
I will take a guess:

1) 363 grams.

2) 365 grams.

3) 367 grams.

Ok, I'm gonna cut to the chase, samster your're pretty close...here's the weight of each racquet..

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-24.jpg
When I weighed this racquet last year it hovered between 364-365.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-25.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-26.jpg

Interestingly, all 3 weigh the same....

JoelDali
02-22-2010, 06:54 AM
Damn talk about Fabulous consistency.

samster
02-22-2010, 06:57 AM
Ok, I'm gonna cut to the chase, samster your're pretty close...here's the weight of each racquet..

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-24.jpg
When I weighed this racquet last year it hovered between 364-365.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-25.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-26.jpg

Interestingly, all 3 weigh the same....

Thanks Fabfed. I expect Fed to demand consistency in his frames from Wilson.

For the general public, we are talking about "tolerance" of +/- 5 grams, if not more! :)

sureshs
02-22-2010, 07:13 AM
12.8 oz is what we have been told to expect for Fed's frame.

VGP
02-22-2010, 07:17 AM
Federer demands consistency from Priority One. I'm sure they request frames that are in the ballpark, then they do the customization to his requested specifications - lead taping, custom molded handles, grip and overgrip installation, etc.

VGP
02-22-2010, 07:19 AM
12.8 oz is what we have been told to expect for Fed's frame.

"have been told to expect"

what does that mean?

J011yroger
02-22-2010, 07:29 AM
"have been told to expect"

what does that mean?

I think it has something to do with The Spanish Inquisition.

J

topanlego
02-22-2010, 07:30 AM
Are some of the racquets signed on both sides? If you compare the racquets and the K Factor at the top, at least one of the racquets appears to be signed on both sides.

Take a look on post #59 (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4417798&postcount=59). The middle racquet at the top pic appears to look the same as the on at the bottom pic but the K Factor is flipped. The sigs look slightly different as well.

Fabfed, can you confirm?

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 07:49 AM
Are some of the racquets signed on both sides? If you compare the racquets and the K Factor at the top, at least one of the racquets appears to be signed on both sides.

Take a look on post #59 (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4417798&postcount=59). The middle racquet at the top pic appears to look the same as the on at the bottom pic but the K Factor is flipped. The sigs look slightly different as well.

Fabfed, can you confirm?

Yes, good spot. 2 of the racquets are signed in 3 areas, the grip and either side of the frame, while 1 racquet just has 2 signatures, one on the grip and one on one side of the frame. Also, you are absolutely right, some of the signatures look different. I don't think anyone signs his autograph in the exact same way each time, Roger signs in a more elongated or rounder fashion sometimes. See the photo below of his custom shirts to see what I mean...

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/All.jpg

lidoazndiabloboi
02-22-2010, 08:37 AM
Is that a Euro HPS 6.0 95 that I spy in there?

J

It's a HPS 95 but i dont think it is the 6.0 95, looks like the 6.1

topanlego
02-22-2010, 08:47 AM
Yes, good spot. 2 of the racquets are signed in 3 areas, the grip and either side of the frame, while 1 racquet just has 2 signatures, one on the grip and one on one side of the frame. Also, you are absolutely right, some of the signatures look different. I don't think anyone signs his autograph in the exact same way each time, Roger signs in a more elongated or rounder fashion sometimes. See the photo below of his custom shirts to see what I mean...


I know that the signatures are a bit different each time. Just got confused when some looked like they were signed on both sides but couldn't really tell. Thanks for the info.

Thanks for sharing your awesome collection!

Sephiroth_FFVII
02-22-2010, 08:52 AM
I'm not sure if anyone noticed or not but I can see the cross string end knot is tied off at the wrong place because according to Wilson it is supposed to be at a cross string.

Did they just do this because they prefer the tie-offs on the mains or is it because one of the previous 90 sq. in. racquets had it's tie off a that grommets?

VGP
02-22-2010, 09:52 AM
Other posters noticed the cross tie-off in the other thead where FabFed first shared his pics of his Federer frame.

I can't remember the exact reason (I don't wanna take the time to go through the thread), but I'm assuming it's to avoid cinching a stiff string (ALU rough) with the stress of tying the knot on to his mains (natural gut) at the prescribed tie-off grommet. Helps avoid premature breakage on a shank at the top of the frame.

drakulie
02-22-2010, 10:01 AM
I'm not sure if anyone noticed or not but I can see the cross string end knot is tied off at the wrong place because according to Wilson it is supposed to be at a cross string.

Did they just do this because they prefer the tie-offs on the mains or is it because one of the previous 90 sq. in. racquets had it's tie off a that grommets?


As VGP stated, we noted this in the other thread. Tying off (mains on mains and crosses on crosses) in these places puts less strain on the string being used to anchor.

betovanbuuren
02-22-2010, 10:34 AM
Yes, good spot. 2 of the racquets are signed in 3 areas, the grip and either side of the frame, while 1 racquet just has 2 signatures, one on the grip and one on one side of the frame. Also, you are absolutely right, some of the signatures look different. I don't think anyone signs his autograph in the exact same way each time, Roger signs in a more elongated or rounder fashion sometimes. See the photo below of his custom shirts to see what I mean...

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/All.jpg

great shirts fabfed, how you get those now???

ChevyTennis
02-22-2010, 11:12 AM
Does anyone know if there are pros who use racquets that are weighted differently depending on the surface they play on (grass, clay, etc.)? Or is it just the tensions that change like in the above pics of Roger's K90s- sorry for the noob question.

Deodorant
02-22-2010, 11:31 AM
im starting to wonder is fabfed is the man himself...

Kenny022593
02-22-2010, 01:43 PM
im starting to wonder is fabfed is the man himself...

Me too, or maybe he is a family friend

mltaylor
02-22-2010, 02:55 PM
im starting to wonder is fabfed is the man himself...

I was thinking that earlier today as well. :shock:

Either way thanks Fabfed for taking the time to show us your Federer collection, etc. I've thoroughly enjoyed reading through the threads.

cys19
02-22-2010, 03:01 PM
What's the balance of all 3 racquets?

VGP
02-22-2010, 03:14 PM
im starting to wonder is fabfed is the man himself...

Do you go around signing your own possessions and post pictures of them on the web?

That would be truly self-centered behavior.

What's the balance of all 3 racquets?

Uh, oh. You better not ask that question...... ;)

(just poking fun, FabFed)

drake
02-22-2010, 03:21 PM
So Federer adds, at most 5 - 6 grams of lead. Practically stock frame.

JerrYMeeE
02-22-2010, 03:28 PM
So Federer adds, at most 5 - 6 grams of lead. Practically stock frame.

i'm inclined to believe the specs are made to be more polarized than stock k90s, though it is the same mold, which is why he has to add very little lead

sixone90
02-22-2010, 04:04 PM
im starting to wonder is fabfed is the man himself...

I hope you recover from your lung infection soon and good luck at Indian Wells! :)

samster
02-22-2010, 04:11 PM
Fabfed,

Where does Federer (or his stringer) start gripping his overgrip...8 o'clock in reference to the "W" ?

djicha
02-22-2010, 07:03 PM
Ok...some close-ups..

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-16.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-17.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-5.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/RogRacq2-4.jpg

look at the lead tape under the head grommet, that is a lot.

finchy
02-22-2010, 07:05 PM
I think it was confirmed by fabfed already that the alleged lead tape showing were actually just scratches on the frame revealing the white primer underneath.

samster
02-22-2010, 07:07 PM
look at the lead tape under the head grommet, that is a lot.

looks like scuff marks and not lead to me.

nadalfan!
02-22-2010, 07:13 PM
It does kinda look like lead tape. If you look in that last pic, there is silver in the exact same spot on every racquet...

finchy
02-22-2010, 07:51 PM
I'm going to go ahead and assume Roger's racquets come at the weight he prefers straight from Wilson. He's been using this mold for a while and I'd find it hard to believe that Wilson wouldn't cater to the #1 player in the world's racquet specifications. Just a hypothesis of mine anyways.

Also, the scratch marks that look like lead tape seem to match the scratch pattern from the head guard. Just my own personal observation again...

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 08:00 PM
Me too, or maybe he is a family friend

I was thinking that earlier today as well. :shock:

Either way thanks Fabfed for taking the time to show us your Federer collection, etc. I've thoroughly enjoyed reading through the threads.

ha ha...wish I were a family friend, or even just a friend. I'm just a hardcore fan. Glad you appreciate the thread guys.

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 08:02 PM
Do you go around signing your own possessions and post pictures of them on the web?

That would be truly self-centered behavior.



Uh, oh. You better not ask that question...... ;)

(just poking fun, FabFed)

No problem at all VGP, have always enjoyed reading your posts :)

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 08:10 PM
Fabfed,

Where does Federer (or his stringer) start gripping his overgrip...8 o'clock in reference to the "W" ?

samster, I'm not sure, 12 o'clock maybe?? Take a look...

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/Grip2.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/Grip1.jpg

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/Grip3.jpg

samster
02-22-2010, 08:14 PM
thanks Fabfed. the last photo is very helpful. it starts at 1 o'clock!

i can sleep better tonight.

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 08:18 PM
I think it was confirmed by fabfed already that the alleged lead tape showing were actually just scratches on the frame revealing the white primer underneath.

It's just scratches as a couple of the guys have pointed out, I don't see any visible lead. Look at this other pic of a different frame from the one above...

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/Frame1.jpg

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 08:23 PM
I hope you recover from your lung infection soon and good luck at Indian Wells! :)

I hope so too ...can't wait to play at Indian Wells ;-)

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 08:24 PM
great shirts fabfed, how you get those now???

Mostly from Fed's charity auctions, I had an earlier thread on these shirts, check it out :)

bertrevert
02-22-2010, 08:31 PM
thanks Fabfed. the last photo is very helpful. it starts at 1 o'clock!

i can sleep better tonight.

Hey I found that kinda helpful too thanks for querying Samster.

Great racqs Fabfed.

Is it the leather orange colour bleeding through? I have also experienced an orange colour just by wrapping two white OGs over each other, take one off and orange is between them (from sweat). Has the orange-y one got only one OG? (when roger uses two):
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/Grip1.jpg

Kenny022593
02-22-2010, 08:43 PM
I don't think I have said it yet and I am sorry, but Thank you for posting these pictures FabFed.

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 09:19 PM
Hey I found that kinda helpful too thanks for querying Samster.

Great racqs Fabfed.

Is it the leather orange colour bleeding through? I have also experienced an orange colour just by wrapping two white OGs over each other, take one off and orange is between them (from sweat). Has the orange-y one got only one OG? (when roger uses two):
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh329/FabFed/Grip1.jpg

Thanks. No it's not because of 1 OG, it is just that over time, the leather grip bleeds onto the OG. The 1 stick with a pristine white OG is so because it is the newest among the three.

Anyone know how I can stop the bleeding onto the OG from happening? Or its inevitable? Seems like it unfotunately...

Fabfed
02-22-2010, 09:22 PM
I don't think I have said it yet and I am sorry, but Thank you for posting these pictures FabFed.

Hey Kenny022593, no worries, great that you like the photos and I really appreciate all your comments :)

bertrevert
02-23-2010, 02:38 AM
OGs are absorbent. That being what they do I don't think there's any way to stop the leather colour bleeding through.

Maybe there's some sort of spray fixative/light resin, but it'd be doing something that might trigger a chemical reaction - not wanted.

To some extent it would have been better if Rog had signed the actual light tan leather - now that would last a long time.

Photgraphing extensively will preserve the moment and storing them away from moisture. They should go under glass eventually. Were they to be mounted under glass then maybe the OG should come off and the signed section be some sort of banner or nameplate in the box. Or I guess it's prob best left alone. Heh.

The frame will look great for many years to come. Who knows they may be high point of his career frames too????

Fabfed
02-23-2010, 03:00 AM
OGs are absorbent. That being what they do I don't think there's any way to stop the leather colour bleeding through.

Maybe there's some sort of spray fixative/light resin, but it'd be doing something that might trigger a chemical reaction - not wanted.

To some extent it would have been better if Rog had signed the actual light tan leather - now that would last a long time.

Photgraphing extensively will preserve the moment and storing them away from moisture. They should go under glass eventually. Were they to be mounted under glass then maybe the OG should come off and the signed section be some sort of banner or nameplate in the box. Or I guess it's prob best left alone. Heh.

The frame will look great for many years to come. Who knows they may be high point of his career frames too????


Thanks for the tips and suggestions. Yep, its great that these were the type of frames he used for his record equalling/breaking wins in Paris & Wimbledon, but as a fan, I hope these are not the high point of his career frames, fingers crossed that it would be the BLX90 :)

JoelDali
02-23-2010, 03:05 AM
Rog will win 2010 CYGS with De Bullox.

I'm never wrong.

:)

Rabbit
02-23-2010, 04:11 AM
Fabfed....I think Roger may just retire off your purchases!

Great thread and photos. My greatest appreciation though is how some doubting Thomases (and you know who you are) are now cowtowing and asking questions.

Fabfed
02-23-2010, 06:11 AM
Thanks Rabbit :)

Alex75
02-23-2010, 07:14 AM
Thanks for posting Fabfed!

like others i really wish you'd post the balance point but i respect your choice of course.

betovanbuuren
02-23-2010, 07:43 AM
Thanks. No it's not because of 1 OG, it is just that over time, the leather grip bleeds onto the OG. The 1 stick with a pristine white OG is so because it is the newest among the three.

Anyone know how I can stop the bleeding onto the OG from happening? Or its inevitable? Seems like it unfotunately...

i think is inevitable, because OG has been used, the one with pristine white can keep that way if you don't use it or uses at minimum

samster
02-23-2010, 08:16 AM
I think the staining can be prevented if the frame is kept in a room that has zero humidity. :)

Rabbit
02-23-2010, 08:31 AM
I think the staining can be prevented if the frame is kept in a room that has zero humidity. :)

Maybe he FabFed should consult with Fedace in the proper use of a Hefty on the racquets... ;)

chrisfromalbany
02-23-2010, 08:33 AM
Fabfed, Nice collection..

Can you show or tell the position of the string savers he has on the rackets? Looks like most are at the top of the head.

Thanks,

-Chris

ChevyTennis
02-23-2010, 10:31 AM
Febfed- thanks for posting. These are great pics and information. Do you think you'll try and obtain some of his new PJ's BLX in the future?

jackson vile
02-23-2010, 01:05 PM
looks like scuff marks and not lead to me.

Roger does indeed have lead put under the nose guard.

lambros
02-23-2010, 01:14 PM
Thanks for sharing your pics Fabfed.

grzegorzo
02-23-2010, 03:19 PM
THX. wish we can have more posters like you

Greek Goliath
02-23-2010, 03:28 PM
I too forgot to thank you for taking the time to post these pictures.

Thank you.

Cheers,

Greek Goliath

drake
02-23-2010, 06:46 PM
Fabfed, you have my vote as the best forum poster, GOAT whatever you want to call it. Quality over quantity everytime.

RFRF
02-23-2010, 07:37 PM
Fabfed, you have my vote as the best forum poster, GOAT whatever you want to call it. Quality over quantity everytime.

I second that!!!!!!!!!

MrFlip
02-24-2010, 03:29 PM
FabFed, you're next mission if you chose to accept it:

Acquire at least 3 Federer BLX 90.

Thanks so much for the pictures. Good to see the K90s arent from King Arthur but merely customised.

J011yroger
02-24-2010, 03:42 PM
FabFed, you're next mission if you chose to accept it:

Acquire at least 3 Federer BLX 90.

This post will self destruct....

J

cork_screw
02-24-2010, 03:59 PM
Out of 7 pages nobody's asked you to go out and hit with one and compare it with the stock k90? Alright, I'll be the first one

J011yroger
02-24-2010, 04:08 PM
Out of 7 pages nobody's asked you to go out and hit with one and compare it with the stock k90? Alright, I'll be the first one


People have asked him to hit it, and he replied with something along the lines of "Are you out of your damn mind?!?!"

J

claub
02-24-2010, 05:51 PM
I haven't read the thread thoroughly and I don't exactly know if FabFed has measured the grip with an inch ruler. I mean of course with the overgrip on.

I know that the grip is a custom mold, but it would be interesting to know exactly what size 4 and a ... inch is.

WilsonPro Overgrip adds about 1/8 inch +.

JoelDali
02-24-2010, 05:59 PM
I would give up my virginity to hit with one of those PT90 PJs.

J011yroger
02-24-2010, 06:09 PM
I would give up my virginity to hit with one of those PT90 PJs.

Or much, much less.

I have heard the stories...

J

Nguyen-er
02-24-2010, 08:41 PM
Nice collection indeed.

volleynets
02-24-2010, 09:06 PM
People have asked him to hit it, and he replied with something along the lines of "Are you out of your damn mind?!?!"

J

Does he play tennis?

AlpineCadet
02-24-2010, 10:38 PM
The OP has enough money to burn on frames, yet still hasn't posted specs. Fans want to know how the frame plays/swings. Pay up.

ronalditop
02-25-2010, 05:30 AM
Could you please measure the Swingweight?

claub
02-25-2010, 06:06 AM
Again, FabFed, could you measure the custom mold shape size of Federer's grip (with the overgrip) using a inch ruler (the one flexible, for cloths measures) and tell us what exact size is: 4 and ?/8.

Could someone, please, post him a PM about this. I can't yet send PMs.
Thanks

topanlego
02-25-2010, 07:00 AM
Woah... some of you are pushy... He'll post more specs when he post more specs. Patience...

ChevyTennis
02-25-2010, 07:17 AM
Could you please measure the Swingweight?

Again, FabFed, could you measure the custom mold shape size of Federer's grip (with the overgrip) using a inch ruler (the one flexible, for cloths measures) and tell us what exact size is: 4 and ?/8.

Could someone, please, post him a PM about this. I can't yet send PMs.
Thanks

Seriously? You guys are like a bunch of groupies begging for an autograph... why on earth do you care about the exact grip size. How will having that information impact your life?

Zefer
02-25-2010, 07:32 AM
How did you get hold of three of Roger Federer's racquets?! They're very nice nevertheless, thanks for sharing. :)

claub
02-25-2010, 07:38 AM
Sorry about being too pushy. I am new to this thread and I don't know about FabFed posting habits.

And ChevyTennis, I think there is a reason for players (Nadal, Federer) with such big hands to play with small grips sizes, in case there are small sizes indeed. That's what I am trying to find out.

I personally think they play with normal grip sizes for they hands, i.e Federer with 4 5/8 (with overgrip).

I just want to find out if they play normal grips sizes or smaller compared to their hands. Why is this so uncommon.

Povl Carstensen
02-25-2010, 08:45 AM
364 is two grams more than my k90 with an Wilson overgrip. Nice to know (to me anyhow...).

robJAR
02-25-2010, 09:52 AM
Isn't 364g pretty light considering it's strung with overgrips added? Dumb question probably answered earlier in this thread, but i was too lazy to look it up.

EDIT: Just kidding, i was mixing it up with another racquet. :)

-robJAR

ALEJOVAL
02-25-2010, 11:14 AM
if do you wanna see the lead tape look out here
http://www.p1tennis.com/files/images/DSC01443.JPG
http://www.p1tennis.com/files/images/DSC01441.JPG

ChevyTennis
02-25-2010, 11:38 AM
if do you wanna see the lead tape look out here
http://www.p1tennis.com/files/images/DSC01443.JPG
http://www.p1tennis.com/files/images/DSC01441.JPG

So I'm guessing that the reason for the varied lengths of lead tape is due to the horrible QC of wilson and is needed to compensate and make them identical in weight and balance.

Tour90
02-25-2010, 11:39 AM
if do you wanna see the lead tape look out here
http://www.p1tennis.com/files/images/DSC01443.JPG
http://www.p1tennis.com/files/images/DSC01441.JPG

thanks for the links. nice to see the different lengths of lead tape on each racquet.

VGP
02-25-2010, 11:58 AM
So I'm guessing that the reason for the varied lengths of lead tape is due to the horrible QC of wilson and is needed to compensate and make them identical in weight and balance.

Again with the "horrible" quality control of Wilson......

From what I can tell, racket manufacturing is what it is. There is variance.

What do you suggest they do? Scrap all the frames that are off by a gram or two from the target specs?

As I see it if Federer, one of the greatest players in history, gets his frames weight matched with some lead tape (Sampras did also) goes out there and scores double-digit slams, then us regular joes have no room to b!tch.

VGP
02-25-2010, 12:25 PM
The lead taping reminds me of the YouTube video where TW talked to Nate Ferguson of P1 a couple of years ago (at IW?).

He was showing their setup for stringing and he briefly discussed several of their clients' frames.

When he came to Federer's (then with the k90), he said that it was what you can buy at the store, but they "sneak a little" lead under the bumperguard.....

Nice they now have a pic with what I can assume are Federer's frames with the lead tape prior to installation of the plastic parts. Now, whether or not Federer's BLX90s are also the retail version, that info's for those in the know.

Like someone previously posted, if FabFed can score a Federer BLX90, he may actually have to hit with the frames to see if they're different..... ;)

samster
02-25-2010, 02:30 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/zvv7sk.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/1440n5d.jpg

These look like the 1/4 inch-wide lead tape, which weighs 0.25 grams per inch (length). There are two strips of lead tape under the head guard that vary between 6 inches to 8 inches long. So that's about 3 to 4 grams of additional weight at the head compared to a "stock" or "retail" frame.

Federer's frames most likely run on the lighter side (ie. < 339 grams unstrung) to allow for this type of customization. These pictures also show that the QC from Wilson varies.

AlpineCadet
02-25-2010, 02:33 PM
Maybe RF just likes to vary the weight on his sticks. I'm sure those frames are all identical to each other.

samster
02-25-2010, 02:35 PM
Maybe RF just likes to vary the weight on his sticks. I'm sure those frames are all identical to each other.

All three frames Fabfed possesses weighed in at 364 grams. They are probably all identical (ie. static weight, SW) after customization, like you mentioned.

AlpineCadet
02-25-2010, 02:39 PM
Those k90's that fabfed owns were matched, since I'm sure RF won't just stick to one frame throughout a Tournament? Not sure. But I'm pretty sure he needs a bit of variety between all those sticks to help him adjust to the different court surfaces?

samster
02-25-2010, 02:44 PM
Those k90's that fabfed owns were matched, since I'm sure RF won't just stick to one frame throughout a Tournament? Not sure. But I'm pretty sure he needs a bit of variety between all those sticks to help him adjust to the different court surfaces?

I may be mistaken but those three sticks were from different tournaments.

J011yroger
02-25-2010, 02:49 PM
Why is P1 using pics from my house on their website?!?!

J

samster
02-25-2010, 03:04 PM
Why is P1 using pics from my house on their website?!?!

J

I am not sure, but there appears to be a pirate's treasure chest next to the rackets.

J011yroger
02-25-2010, 03:16 PM
I am not sure, but there appears to be a pirate's treasure chest next to the rackets.

Arrrr! They be stealin me dubloons!

J

sureshs
02-26-2010, 07:28 AM
Does he play tennis?

The OP has enough money to burn on frames, yet still hasn't posted specs. Fans want to know how the frame plays/swings. Pay up.

Could you please measure the Swingweight?

Good questions ..........

VGP
02-26-2010, 08:16 AM
Isn't it up to the OP to reply to whatever he wants to and to what level?

You can demand all you want, but it's still his prerogative.

AlpineCadet
02-26-2010, 12:23 PM
Isn't it up to the OP to reply to whatever he wants to and to what level?

You can demand all you want, but it's still his prerogative.

Demand? Isn't it pointless to just post pictures of the Fed sticks? What's the point of posting up pictures of "the frames" when we can just see them by doing a google search on RF himself?

A fan owns the sticks and most Fed fans would want to know the specs. Don't you :confused: What's the hold up? Hmm. It's a bit ridiculous to own things like that and not be excited about posting specs/playtest results.

BTW, what else are you here for? Don't tell me you are now a fabfed fanboy?

BagelMe
02-26-2010, 12:40 PM
Great thread FabFed.

AlpineCadet
02-26-2010, 01:05 PM
BTW, here's another picture of Fed's racket. Cool huh?
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q219/acabrerafotos/1002534cy9.jpg

VGP
02-26-2010, 01:13 PM
Demand? Isn't it pointless to just post pictures of the Fed sticks? What's the point of posting up pictures of "the frames" when we can just see them by doing a google search on RF himself?

A fan owns the sticks and most Fed fans would want to know the specs. Don't you :confused: What's the hold up? Hmm. It's a bit ridiculous to own things like that and not be excited about posting specs/playtest results.

BTW, what else are you here for? Don't tell me you are now a fabfed fanboy?

I'm not being a fanboy of FebFed (sounds alliterative)....I'm not coming down on you per se.

I'm just going off FabFed's other thread that degenerated as some posters were getting on his case for not posting specs. Seems he's just interested in collecting memorabilia and not getting into the nuts and bolts of the frames. He seems satisfied that they are authentic and he wants to show HIS collection.

Some people even suggest looking under the bumperguard, or playing with them.....I'm not surprised someone's not suggested he cut them up and go all forensic to do some gas chromatography/mass spectroscopy on some frame shavings comparing them to retail. You suggest playtest results. Given the frames are autographed on the handle, that would be a bad idea when it comes to preserving their collector value.

If you want Federer specs on balance and swingweight and playtest results, look no further than Greg Raven's site. If anything just posting the static weight of what FabFed's collected corroborates the RDC results posted by GR assuming all things remain the same.

So.....you're gonna ride me for criticizing overzealous posters that want answers? Some people have gotten down right rude questioning the OP's credibility, motivations, and moral fiber.

But, in a way you're right. This forum is loaded with gearheads (me included). I'm curious to know such things, I'll just take the information that people freely share. I was just sensing that the bullying was going to restart......

AlpineCadet
02-26-2010, 01:20 PM
Why the mystery? Why keep us in the dark by avoiding our questions?

Anyway, the OP should tell us that he doesn't plan on putting the frames on an RDC machine and that we should look for any further pictures of the Fed sticks on google. That's the entire summary of this thread, right?

VGP
02-26-2010, 01:25 PM
I recall him saying (in his other thread) that he wasn't going to go take measurements on an RDC machine......

sureshs
02-26-2010, 01:29 PM
Why the mystery? Why keep us in the dark by avoiding our questions?

Anyway, the OP should tell us that he doesn't plan on putting the frames on an RDC machine and that we should look for any further pictures of the Fed sticks on google. That's the entire summary of this thread, right?

Give it up, Alps.

There are lots of posters here who care only about themselves. If they see a husband destroying his family by gambling away the life savings in a casino, they will applaud him as long as he keeps sending exciting new photos of the casino. After all, it is the guy's prerogative how he spends his money. Let us all just enjoy seeing these pics for free with our already-paid-for Internet connectivity.

AlpineCadet
02-26-2010, 01:33 PM
I recall him saying (in his other thread) that he wasn't going to go take measurements on an RDC machine......

So it wasn't in this thread, right? K, got it. Thanks for searching for me.

Give it up, Alps.

There are lots of posters here who care only about themselves. If they see a husband destroying his family by gambling away the life savings in a casino, they will applaud him as long as he keeps sending exciting new photos of the casino. After all, it is the guy's prerogative how he spends his money. Let us all just enjoy seeing these pics for free with our already-paid-for Internet connectivity.

That's a good one!

samster
02-26-2010, 02:32 PM
Why the mystery? Why keep us in the dark by avoiding our questions?

Anyway, the OP should tell us that he doesn't plan on putting the frames on an RDC machine and that we should look for any further pictures of the Fed sticks on google. That's the entire summary of this thread, right?

I believe Fabfed already stated in another thread that he has no interest to measure the balance or SW.

They are his rackets and he can do whatever he chooses with them. Afterall, he paid big bucks for them!

samster
02-26-2010, 02:34 PM
Give it up, Alps.

There are lots of posters here who care only about themselves. If they see a husband destroying his family by gambling away the life savings in a casino, they will applaud him as long as he keeps sending exciting new photos of the casino. After all, it is the guy's prerogative how he spends his money. Let us all just enjoy seeing these pics for free with our already-paid-for Internet connectivity.

Don't see how your analogy is relevant. And who are you to judge?

AlpineCadet
02-26-2010, 02:37 PM
Hey Samster, thanks for the reply. But it seems I could match/or surpass this thread by visiting any search engine site. Thanks, but I own a k90 and know it well already. This thread just seems to be beating a dead horse if the OP is only going post pictures of the k90 stick. And you've gotta admit, the OP selectively answers the weirdest questions, leaving the rest of us out in the cold. One Fed fan is the same as any other, why filter your responses? Anyway, in the end it's his right to only post pics. Got it.

samster
02-26-2010, 02:41 PM
Hey Samster, thanks for the reply. But it seems I could match/or surpass this thread by visiting any search engine site. Thanks, but I own a k90 and know it well already. This thread just seems to be beating a dead horse if the OP is only going post pictures of the k90 stick. And you've gotta admit, the OP selectively answers the weirdest questions, leaving the rest of us out in the cold.

The new pics (with lead applied under the bumper guard) from p1tennis.com were really helpful I thought. It appears even for Fed, his personal stringers have to go to great length to get all those frames to spec the same.

AlpineCadet
02-26-2010, 02:46 PM
Definitely so. Kudos to P1 and their revealing pictures.

robJAR
02-26-2010, 06:31 PM
I wonder if federer still uses power pads.. Just a random thought but i've read reviews that the BLX90 has a more dampened feel compared to the k90. Maybe Wilson did it for that purpose..?

-robJAR

samster
02-26-2010, 06:38 PM
I wonder if federer still uses power pads.. Just a random thought but i've read reviews that the BLX90 has a more dampened feel compared to the k90. Maybe Wilson did it for that purpose..?

-robJAR

http://i50.tinypic.com/2qvtguw.jpg

Pic from AO 2010 shows that he still does.

ronalditop
02-26-2010, 07:36 PM
Awesome pics. Kudos to Priority One.

robJAR
02-26-2010, 07:44 PM
Ah, thank you for the picture. Has it been confirmed or not that he's using a paintjob?

-robJAR

OliverSimon
02-26-2010, 08:08 PM
I absolutely love the new BLX paint-job. Its fabulous.

wgmh128
02-26-2010, 08:53 PM
I originally didn't like the BLX paintjob but its starting to grow on me. Great pics, I wonder what tension Roger was using in Australia cause it didn't seem as hot as last year.

Fabfed
02-26-2010, 10:48 PM
Demand? Isn't it pointless to just post pictures of the Fed sticks? What's the point of posting up pictures of "the frames" when we can just see them by doing a google search on RF himself?

A fan owns the sticks and most Fed fans would want to know the specs. Don't you :confused: What's the hold up? Hmm. It's a bit ridiculous to own things like that and not be excited about posting specs/playtest results.

BTW, what else are you here for? Don't tell me you are now a fabfed fanboy?

Why the mystery? Why keep us in the dark by avoiding our questions?

Anyway, the OP should tell us that he doesn't plan on putting the frames on an RDC machine and that we should look for any further pictures of the Fed sticks on google. That's the entire summary of this thread, right?

Give it up, Alps.

There are lots of posters here who care only about themselves. If they see a husband destroying his family by gambling away the life savings in a casino, they will applaud him as long as he keeps sending exciting new photos of the casino. After all, it is the guy's prerogative how he spends his money. Let us all just enjoy seeing these pics for free with our already-paid-for Internet connectivity.

Hey Samster, thanks for the reply. But it seems I could match/or surpass this thread by visiting any search engine site. Thanks, but I own a k90 and know it well already. This thread just seems to be beating a dead horse if the OP is only going post pictures of the k90 stick. And you've gotta admit, the OP selectively answers the weirdest questions, leaving the rest of us out in the cold. One Fed fan is the same as any other, why filter your responses? Anyway, in the end it's his right to only post pics. Got it.


It's posters like AlpineCadet and sureshs that really put me off posting on this forum. Some things never change. When I first posted photos of the first Fed K90 I got hold of in another thread “What are Federer's racquet specs (grip, weight, tension)?‎, I was criticised by a few posters, the main person being sureshs for refusing to post the exact specs of the racquet, take measurements on an RDC machine or playtest it [well actually sureshs did more than that, he accused me of stealing the Fed K90 as there was no way a poster could afford a real Fed stick so he said I probably stold it from Fed’s hotel room]. I thought there couldn’t be another poster more odious than sureshs but then AlpineCadet came along to provide some stiff competition. For the sake of these 2 posters let me just reiterated one last time –

First of all, as VGP noted, I’m into collecting memorabilia, more specifically Roger’s actual gear, such as his custom shirts and shoes, and racquets. As such, I acquire these things just to display them, not to wear or test them out. Logically speaking, wouldn’t it seem really dumb (no matter how keen I am) for me to play test Fed’s K90 and risk smudging the autograph on the handle or worst breaking the strings and even damaging the racquet? Really AlpineCadet, are you just a dense 12-year-old or is it because you are just so caught up in your own selfish curiosity on the specs of the racquet that you do not think about these possibilities or just plain care? Ron Yu himself said he was glad to hear that I wasn’t going to hit with it and that I should keep it nice and safe on a wall at home. So who are you AlpineCadet?

For that very same reason, I do not want to do anything else that might risk damaging the racquet. I will not bring it to some pro-shop to have some guy handle my racquet just so he can measure it on an RDC machine, nor do any other test to determine the balance and swingweight. I have stated many times before that I would do my best to respond to questions of posters on the racquet including measuring the static weight of the racquet, which I have, so long as it does not involve any of the above , and I have done all that – it was not selectively answering the “wierdest questions” as AlpineCadet claims (so you are claiming that questions from samster, drakulie and others which I responded to were weird?) – who are you to judge? Those are my racquets so its my prerogative, as some posters have pointed out.

AlpineCadet is basically saying I made no contributions to this forum, and that he (and I quote) “could match/or surpass this thread by visiting any search engine site” and that my thread is pointless as anyone could post pictures of Roger’s frames simply by “doing a google search on RF himself”. Last I recall, no one on this forum has ever posted pics (let alone clear close up ones) of Roger’s actual K90s and Nadal’s actual APDGT. Some of the photos I posted have already been circulated on other forums, and they seem pretty excited and happy about it. Can you really get the kind of photos that I posted on the net? Let’s see some, AlpineCadet. Also, let’s also see you match or surpass my thread as you claim you could. I am trying to get hold of an actual Fed BLX90 and start a thread when I do get it, but since you claim I am a fraud, I will just leave it to you then. You can start an actual Fed BLX90 “pics” thread by googling for the photos. Also, you seem to suggest that no one benefited from my threads, as they were just pics, not specs. If that’s the case, I should just stop my threads. For each of the threads I started, I spent hours taking photos and uploading them onto this forum. I lay out the racquets, take multiple photos of a single shot, choose the clearest and those that I think would be most useful to posters, resize them, put them on photobucket (which takes time given the numbers and size of the photos) and then place them on this forum. I even make sure that the background colour is appropriate (hence the white towels and tees) so that posters can get the best possible look at the racquets. It took a whole lot of effort. I could start a thread and say I have some top pro player’s frame and stop there and not post pics as a lot of other posters have done. But no, I have started threads with multiple large and clear pics of the sticks of not just any pro player, but those of Roger and Rafael, and this is the kind of grief I get.

As for you sureshs, you really are a piece of work. Notwithstanding your accusations against me (of being a thief) when I posted Fed’s racquet pics in the earlier thread and your subsequent criticisms and put downs, I accepted sincerely when you offered a truce to stop all that. I kept to my word and even responded to your queries as a fellow poster friend, but then you just couldn’t keep up your false new persona could you? You had to register as a new member “mrmb” (how pathetic is that) just to criticise me, but a number of posters saw through it and knew instantly that it was you. And what’s with this new line of argument of caring so much about how I spend my money and that other posters should care but they don’t? Is anyone really buying your care and concern about how I spend my money? How is it relevant? I have mentioned to you, even though I do not need to, that this is my hobby hence my willingness to spend on it You try to pass off as some really intelligent poster, but more often than not, you come off looking really asinine. I think you are just plain jealous (and dumb) and cannot accept the fact that a poster on this forum can actually afford such things and be at the same time, willing to share photos and info on the items with his follow posters. As I have said before, you stereotype and you are probably a bigot. As far as you are concerned, a poster like me cannot and must not appear on this forum. I come along and buck the trend and break the myth you hold so dearly and you can’t handle it. Sureshs, you need to get over yourself already.

I am sick and tired of such treatment. I don’t understand how we should waste our time with accusations and recriminations when the focus should really be on the tennis. There should be mutual respect and acceptance, instead of unreasonable demands and unwarranted criticisms. It is sad that my involvement in this TW forum has to end with this last post, but I will grant AlpineCadet and sureshs’ wish to not post here anymore. It is easy for some of you guys to say that I should just ignore their comments, but when I put in the kind of effort that I have, it just really affects me, call me sensitive but I think I am the wounded party here. Anyway good luck to you guys and its been nice knowing most of you (unlike sureshs, I will not be continuing posting under a new assumed identity).

Moderators – please do not remove this post, I deserve to have my ripostes to the comments of AlpineCadet and sureshs maintained on this thread. Thank you.

corners
02-26-2010, 11:12 PM
It's posters like AlpineCadet and sureshs that really put me off posting on this forum. Some things never change. When I first posted photos of the first Fed K90 I got hold of in another thread “What are Federer's racquet specs (grip, weight, tension)?‎, I was criticised by a few posters, the main person being sureshs for refusing to post the exact specs of the racquet, take measurements on an RDC machine or playtest it [well actually sureshs did more than that, he accused me of stealing the Fed K90 as there was no way a poster could afford a real Fed stick so he said I probably stold it from Fed’s hotel room]. I thought there couldn’t be another poster more odious than sureshs but then AlpineCadet came along to provide some stiff competition. For the sake of these 2 posters let me just reiterated one last time –

First of all, as VGP noted, I’m into collecting memorabilia, more specifically Roger’s actual gear, such as his custom shirts and shoes, and racquets. As such, I acquire these things just to display them, not to wear or test them out. Logically speaking, wouldn’t it seem really dumb (no matter how keen I am) for me to play test Fed’s K90 and risk smudging the autograph on the handle or worst breaking the strings and even damaging the racquet? Really AlpineCadet, are you just a dense 12-year-old or is it because you are just so caught up in your own selfish curiosity on the specs of the racquet that you do not think about these possibilities or just plain care? Ron Yu himself said he was glad to hear that I wasn’t going to hit with it and that I should keep it nice and safe on a wall at home. So who are you AlpineCadet?

For that very same reason, I do not want to do anything else that might risk damaging the racquet. I will not bring it to some pro-shop to have some guy handle my racquet just so he can measure it on an RDC machine, nor do any other test to determine the balance and swingweight. I have stated many times before that I would do my best to respond to questions of posters on the racquet including measuring the static weight of the racquet, which I have, so long as it does not involve any of the above , and I have done all that – it was not selectively answering the “wierdest questions” as AlpineCadet claims (so you are claiming that questions from samster, drakulie and others which I responded to were weird?) – who are you to judge? Those are my racquets so its my prerogative, as some posters have pointed out.

AlpineCadet is basically saying I made no contributions to this forum, and that he (and I quote) “could match/or surpass this thread by visiting any search engine site” and that my thread is pointless as anyone could post pictures of Roger’s frames simply by “doing a google search on RF himself”. Last I recall, no one on this forum has ever posted pics (let alone clear close up ones) of Roger’s actual K90s and Nadal’s actual APDGT. Some of the photos I posted have already been circulated on other forums, and they seem pretty excited and happy about it. Can you really get the kind of photos that I posted on the net? Let’s see some, AlpineCadet. Also, let’s also see you match or surpass my thread as you claim you could. I am trying to get hold of an actual Fed BLX90 and start a thread when I do get it, but since you claim I am a fraud, I will just leave it to you then. You can start an actual Fed BLX90 “pics” thread by googling for the photos. Also, you seem to suggest that no one benefited from my threads, as they were just pics, not specs. If that’s the case, I should just stop my threads. For each of the threads I started, I spent hours taking photos and uploading them onto this forum. I lay out the racquets, take multiple photos of a single shot, choose the clearest and those that I think would be most useful to posters, resize them, put them on photobucket (which takes time given the numbers and size of the photos) and then place them on this forum. I even make sure that the background colour is appropriate (hence the white towels and tees) so that posters can get the best possible look at the racquets. It took a whole lot of effort. I could start a thread and say I have some top pro player’s frame and stop there and not post pics as a lot of other posters have done. But no, I have started threads with multiple large and clear pics of the sticks of not just any pro player, but those of Roger and Rafael, and this is the kind of grief I get.

As for you sureshs, you really are a piece of work. Notwithstanding your accusations against me (of being a thief) when I posted Fed’s racquet pics in the earlier thread and your subsequent criticisms and put downs, I accepted sincerely when you offered a truce to stop all that. I kept to my word and even responded to your queries as a fellow poster friend, but then you just couldn’t keep up your false new persona could you? You had to register as a new member “mrmb” (how pathetic is that) just to criticise me, but a number of posters saw through it and knew instantly that it was you. And what’s with this new line of argument of caring so much about how I spend my money and that other posters should care but they don’t? Is anyone really buying your care and concern about how I spend my money? How is it relevant? I have mentioned to you, even though I do not need to, that this is my hobby hence my willingness to spend on it You try to pass off as some really intelligent poster, but more often than not, you come off looking really asinine. I think you are just plain jealous (and dumb) and cannot accept the fact that a poster on this forum can actually afford such things and be at the same time, willing to share photos and info on the items with his follow posters. As I have said before, you stereotype and you are probably a bigot. As far as you are concerned, a poster like me cannot and must not appear on this forum. I come along and buck the trend and break the myth you hold so dearly and you can’t handle it. Sureshs, you need to get over yourself already.

I am sick and tired of such treatment. I don’t understand how we should waste our time with accusations and recriminations when the focus should really be on the tennis. There should be mutual respect and acceptance, instead of unreasonable demands and unwarranted criticisms. It is sad that my involvement in this TW forum has to end with this last post, but I will grant AlpineCadet and sureshs’ wish to not post here anymore. It is easy for some of you guys to say that I should just ignore their comments, but when I put in the kind of effort that I have, it just really affects me, call me sensitive but I think I am the wounded party here. Anyway good luck to you guys and its been nice knowing most of you (unlike sureshs, I will not be continuing posting under a new assumed identity).

Moderators – please do not remove this post, I deserve to have my ripostes to the comments of AlpineCadet and sureshs maintained on this thread. Thank you.

Well, you can do whatever you want. I haven't responded to any of your postings but I've been following the threads where you've put up photos and such. Thanks. But I'm surprised you don't realize the POV of most people here. Putting a racquet on an RDC machine to test balance and swingweight will not harm the racquet. Not a chance. It's 1000 times less risky than taking the frame out for a practice hit. Every time Roger had those racquets restrung they were put on an RDC. So from this perspective no one can understand why you won't do it. It simply doesn't make any sense to us.

There have probably been several thousand posts devoted to speculation about the GOAT's specs. You have the opportunity to end this once and for all, definitively, and most of us feel that this would be at no risk to you. In fact, it would take just a little more time and effort than you've put into posting all the photos. Can't you see why people are starting to feel teased and frustrated?

You have the ability to make a contribution to tennis history. If you don't want to post anymore due to abuse and criticism, that's understandable, but please take the frames down to a pro-shop you trust and explain to the tech that these are valuable collector's pieces and must be treated like precious artifacts. End the mystery once and for all. Everyone loves Roger; the tech will immediately understand that this is not a situation to take lightly and do his best to test the frames accurately and with the greatest care. Please Fabfed, forget the rude posters and do it for everyone that's been considerate and respectful all this time.

rovex
02-26-2010, 11:19 PM
It's posters like AlpineCadet and sureshs that really put me off posting on this forum. Some things never change. When I first posted photos of the first Fed K90 I got hold of in another thread “What are Federer's racquet specs (grip, weight, tension)?‎, I was criticised by a few posters, the main person being sureshs for refusing to post the exact specs of the racquet, take measurements on an RDC machine or playtest it [well actually sureshs did more than that, he accused me of stealing the Fed K90 as there was no way a poster could afford a real Fed stick so he said I probably stold it from Fed’s hotel room]. I thought there couldn’t be another poster more odious than sureshs but then AlpineCadet came along to provide some stiff competition. For the sake of these 2 posters let me just reiterated one last time –

First of all, as VGP noted, I’m into collecting memorabilia, more specifically Roger’s actual gear, such as his custom shirts and shoes, and racquets. As such, I acquire these things just to display them, not to wear or test them out. Logically speaking, wouldn’t it seem really dumb (no matter how keen I am) for me to play test Fed’s K90 and risk smudging the autograph on the handle or worst breaking the strings and even damaging the racquet? Really AlpineCadet, are you just a dense 12-year-old or is it because you are just so caught up in your own selfish curiosity on the specs of the racquet that you do not think about these possibilities or just plain care? Ron Yu himself said he was glad to hear that I wasn’t going to hit with it and that I should keep it nice and safe on a wall at home. So who are you AlpineCadet?

For that very same reason, I do not want to do anything else that might risk damaging the racquet. I will not bring it to some pro-shop to have some guy handle my racquet just so he can measure it on an RDC machine, nor do any other test to determine the balance and swingweight. I have stated many times before that I would do my best to respond to questions of posters on the racquet including measuring the static weight of the racquet, which I have, so long as it does not involve any of the above , and I have done all that – it was not selectively answering the “wierdest questions” as AlpineCadet claims (so you are claiming that questions from samster, drakulie and others which I responded to were weird?) – who are you to judge? Those are my racquets so its my prerogative, as some posters have pointed out.

AlpineCadet is basically saying I made no contributions to this forum, and that he (and I quote) “could match/or surpass this thread by visiting any search engine site” and that my thread is pointless as anyone could post pictures of Roger’s frames simply by “doing a google search on RF himself”. Last I recall, no one on this forum has ever posted pics (let alone clear close up ones) of Roger’s actual K90s and Nadal’s actual APDGT. Some of the photos I posted have already been circulated on other forums, and they seem pretty excited and happy about it. Can you really get the kind of photos that I posted on the net? Let’s see some, AlpineCadet. Also, let’s also see you match or surpass my thread as you claim you could. I am trying to get hold of an actual Fed BLX90 and start a thread when I do get it, but since you claim I am a fraud, I will just leave it to you then. You can start an actual Fed BLX90 “pics” thread by googling for the photos. Also, you seem to suggest that no one benefited from my threads, as they were just pics, not specs. If that’s the case, I should just stop my threads. For each of the threads I started, I spent hours taking photos and uploading them onto this forum. I lay out the racquets, take multiple photos of a single shot, choose the clearest and those that I think would be most useful to posters, resize them, put them on photobucket (which takes time given the numbers and size of the photos) and then place them on this forum. I even make sure that the background colour is appropriate (hence the white towels and tees) so that posters can get the best possible look at the racquets. It took a whole lot of effort. I could start a thread and say I have some top pro player’s frame and stop there and not post pics as a lot of other posters have done. But no, I have started threads with multiple large and clear pics of the sticks of not just any pro player, but those of Roger and Rafael, and this is the kind of grief I get.

As for you sureshs, you really are a piece of work. Notwithstanding your accusations against me (of being a thief) when I posted Fed’s racquet pics in the earlier thread and your subsequent criticisms and put downs, I accepted sincerely when you offered a truce to stop all that. I kept to my word and even responded to your queries as a fellow poster friend, but then you just couldn’t keep up your false new persona could you? You had to register as a new member “mrmb” (how pathetic is that) just to criticise me, but a number of posters saw through it and knew instantly that it was you. And what’s with this new line of argument of caring so much about how I spend my money and that other posters should care but they don’t? Is anyone really buying your care and concern about how I spend my money? How is it relevant? I have mentioned to you, even though I do not need to, that this is my hobby hence my willingness to spend on it You try to pass off as some really intelligent poster, but more often than not, you come off looking really asinine. I think you are just plain jealous (and dumb) and cannot accept the fact that a poster on this forum can actually afford such things and be at the same time, willing to share photos and info on the items with his follow posters. As I have said before, you stereotype and you are probably a bigot. As far as you are concerned, a poster like me cannot and must not appear on this forum. I come along and buck the trend and break the myth you hold so dearly and you can’t handle it. Sureshs, you need to get over yourself already.

I am sick and tired of such treatment. I don’t understand how we should waste our time with accusations and recriminations when the focus should really be on the tennis. There should be mutual respect and acceptance, instead of unreasonable demands and unwarranted criticisms. It is sad that my involvement in this TW forum has to end with this last post, but I will grant AlpineCadet and sureshs’ wish to not post here anymore. It is easy for some of you guys to say that I should just ignore their comments, but when I put in the kind of effort that I have, it just really affects me, call me sensitive but I think I am the wounded party here. Anyway good luck to you guys and its been nice knowing most of you (unlike sureshs, I will not be continuing posting under a new assumed identity).

Moderators – please do not remove this post, I deserve to have my ripostes to the comments of AlpineCadet and sureshs maintained on this thread. Thank you.

Oh come on, this was needless. You surely must of expected many of us to ask for the specs? As someone mentioned, it won't harm any of these racquets and will take less time than you think.

CzechM8
02-27-2010, 12:12 AM
I've always thought that internet fora are there for sharing, which is exactly exactly what the OP did - shared the pics and joy of a part of his collection.
Is it jealousy or just plain failure of so many posters to understand that the OP can do whatever the heck he chooses with his racquets and doesn't really have to do as they say?
I don't really blame him for the reaction (despite the fact that putting the sticks on an RDC won't harm them at all but hey, the owner is free to decide).

Rippy
02-27-2010, 04:17 AM
I've always thought that internet fora are there for sharing, which is exactly exactly what the OP did - shared the pics and joy of a part of his collection.
Is it jealousy or just plain failure of so many posters to understand that the OP can do whatever the heck he chooses with his racquets and doesn't really have to do as they say?
I don't really blame him for the reaction (despite the fact that putting the sticks on an RDC won't harm them at all but hey, the owner is free to decide).

I don't think people were being unnecessarily rude. It seems rather childish of Fabfed to leave because people very slightly criticised him - that's life!

You are correct the owner is free to decide, and I respect his decision not to do so, but I think he has overreacted massively to people's requests.

J011yroger
02-27-2010, 04:19 AM
Dude, been a pleasure talking to you, and good luck with your collection in the future.

J

ronalditop
02-27-2010, 04:34 AM
I didnt know putting a racquet on a RDC could in any way cause it harm. Im gonna have to be more careful in the future.

mikro112
02-27-2010, 04:40 AM
It's posters like AlpineCadet and sureshs that really put me off posting on this forum. Some things never change. When I first posted photos of the first Fed K90 I got hold of in another thread “What are Federer's racquet specs (grip, weight, tension)?‎, I was criticised by a few posters, the main person being sureshs for refusing to post the exact specs of the racquet, take measurements on an RDC machine or playtest it [well actually sureshs did more than that, he accused me of stealing the Fed K90 as there was no way a poster could afford a real Fed stick so he said I probably stold it from Fed’s hotel room]. I thought there couldn’t be another poster more odious than sureshs but then AlpineCadet came along to provide some stiff competition. For the sake of these 2 posters let me just reiterated one last time –

First of all, as VGP noted, I’m into collecting memorabilia, more specifically Roger’s actual gear, such as his custom shirts and shoes, and racquets. As such, I acquire these things just to display them, not to wear or test them out. Logically speaking, wouldn’t it seem really dumb (no matter how keen I am) for me to play test Fed’s K90 and risk smudging the autograph on the handle or worst breaking the strings and even damaging the racquet? Really AlpineCadet, are you just a dense 12-year-old or is it because you are just so caught up in your own selfish curiosity on the specs of the racquet that you do not think about these possibilities or just plain care? Ron Yu himself said he was glad to hear that I wasn’t going to hit with it and that I should keep it nice and safe on a wall at home. So who are you AlpineCadet?

For that very same reason, I do not want to do anything else that might risk damaging the racquet. I will not bring it to some pro-shop to have some guy handle my racquet just so he can measure it on an RDC machine, nor do any other test to determine the balance and swingweight. I have stated many times before that I would do my best to respond to questions of posters on the racquet including measuring the static weight of the racquet, which I have, so long as it does not involve any of the above , and I have done all that – it was not selectively answering the “wierdest questions” as AlpineCadet claims (so you are claiming that questions from samster, drakulie and others which I responded to were weird?) – who are you to judge? Those are my racquets so its my prerogative, as some posters have pointed out.

AlpineCadet is basically saying I made no contributions to this forum, and that he (and I quote) “could match/or surpass this thread by visiting any search engine site” and that my thread is pointless as anyone could post pictures of Roger’s frames simply by “doing a google search on RF himself”. Last I recall, no one on this forum has ever posted pics (let alone clear close up ones) of Roger’s actual K90s and Nadal’s actual APDGT. Some of the photos I posted have already been circulated on other forums, and they seem pretty excited and happy about it. Can you really get the kind of photos that I posted on the net? Let’s see some, AlpineCadet. Also, let’s also see you match or surpass my thread as you claim you could. I am trying to get hold of an actual Fed BLX90 and start a thread when I do get it, but since you claim I am a fraud, I will just leave it to you then. You can start an actual Fed BLX90 “pics” thread by googling for the photos. Also, you seem to suggest that no one benefited from my threads, as they were just pics, not specs. If that’s the case, I should just stop my threads. For each of the threads I started, I spent hours taking photos and uploading them onto this forum. I lay out the racquets, take multiple photos of a single shot, choose the clearest and those that I think would be most useful to posters, resize them, put them on photobucket (which takes time given the numbers and size of the photos) and then place them on this forum. I even make sure that the background colour is appropriate (hence the white towels and tees) so that posters can get the best possible look at the racquets. It took a whole lot of effort. I could start a thread and say I have some top pro player’s frame and stop there and not post pics as a lot of other posters have done. But no, I have started threads with multiple large and clear pics of the sticks of not just any pro player, but those of Roger and Rafael, and this is the kind of grief I get.

As for you sureshs, you really are a piece of work. Notwithstanding your accusations against me (of being a thief) when I posted Fed’s racquet pics in the earlier thread and your subsequent criticisms and put downs, I accepted sincerely when you offered a truce to stop all that. I kept to my word and even responded to your queries as a fellow poster friend, but then you just couldn’t keep up your false new persona could you? You had to register as a new member “mrmb” (how pathetic is that) just to criticise me, but a number of posters saw through it and knew instantly that it was you. And what’s with this new line of argument of caring so much about how I spend my money and that other posters should care but they don’t? Is anyone really buying your care and concern about how I spend my money? How is it relevant? I have mentioned to you, even though I do not need to, that this is my hobby hence my willingness to spend on it You try to pass off as some really intelligent poster, but more often than not, you come off looking really asinine. I think you are just plain jealous (and dumb) and cannot accept the fact that a poster on this forum can actually afford such things and be at the same time, willing to share photos and info on the items with his follow posters. As I have said before, you stereotype and you are probably a bigot. As far as you are concerned, a poster like me cannot and must not appear on this forum. I come along and buck the trend and break the myth you hold so dearly and you can’t handle it. Sureshs, you need to get over yourself already.

I am sick and tired of such treatment. I don’t understand how we should waste our time with accusations and recriminations when the focus should really be on the tennis. There should be mutual respect and acceptance, instead of unreasonable demands and unwarranted criticisms. It is sad that my involvement in this TW forum has to end with this last post, but I will grant AlpineCadet and sureshs’ wish to not post here anymore. It is easy for some of you guys to say that I should just ignore their comments, but when I put in the kind of effort that I have, it just really affects me, call me sensitive but I think I am the wounded party here. Anyway good luck to you guys and its been nice knowing most of you (unlike sureshs, I will not be continuing posting under a new assumed identity).

Moderators – please do not remove this post, I deserve to have my ripostes to the comments of AlpineCadet and sureshs maintained on this thread. Thank you.

I can fully understand you. Some posters here are simply egoistic and only think about what they want. I can totally understand it that you won't use the rackets and do everything to keep them safe and in the same condition as they were when you got them! If I had enough money to buy an authentic jersey for example, I wouldn't play with it either. I would frame it, and maybe post a few pictures for other fans.

AlpineCadet and sureshs seem to lack understanding for that, because it wasn't their money. If they are so interested in the real specs of Federer's racket, why don't they save up some money and buy such a racket?!

Also sureshs is the biggest trash poster (troll) on this forum. I don't have him on my ignore list, but I frequently skip his posts because they are a waste of time. You, FabFed, should put either one or both on the ignore list. Then, you won't see any of their posts anymore. Just go here: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/profile.php?do=editlist

travlerajm
02-27-2010, 05:08 AM
FabFed, I really appreciate your contributions and hope you stay. I've been annoyed by abusive posters before, but it's the very small percentage of high-quality posters that keep my coming back every once in a while. You're one of them. I'm thankful for posters like you, Greg Raven, and Jura who post specs of pro frames.

I, like everyone else, am eagerly awaiting you to measure SW. If you don't want to, that's your choice.

ChevyTennis
02-27-2010, 06:13 AM
FabFed, I really appreciate your contributions and hope you stay. I've been annoyed by abusive posters before, but it's the very small percentage of high-quality posters that keep my coming back every once in a while. You're one of them. I'm thankful for posters like you, Greg Raven, and Jura who post specs of pro frames.

I, like everyone else, am eagerly awaiting you to measure SW. If you don't want to, that's your choice.

+1

ChevyTennis

JoelDali
02-27-2010, 07:37 AM
And so the legend of Fabfed(tm) wrought with the immortality of his highly CreamWorthy(tm) possessions and associated images ends with a WimperBang(tm).

robJAR
02-27-2010, 08:28 AM
He used his own money to get those racquets, making it HIS decisions on what to do with them. He decided to share his collection with us, and we should be more than thankful for what he's done.

You're all just jealous, honestly. You all WISHED you had half the collection Fabfed has. Been a pleasure reading your posts and admiring your collection. You will be missed Fabfed.

-robJAR

1970CRBase
02-27-2010, 09:21 AM
Fabfed has removed all his racquet pics. Not only in this thread but also in all his other threads.

fyi, this isn't the first time the same lunatic has done this to a member posting pics of real pro racquets. Check out some of equijets threads when he posted pics of Graf's and Edberg's prostaffs.

FEDERERNADAL13
02-27-2010, 09:57 AM
I have not posted on this thread, but I have been following it. I applaud you Fabfed, for withstanding the critism as long as you had. If I were you, I wouldn't have even started this second thread, because I knew people would want me to hit with my special collecting...

Anyway, it's been great to see some pics of fed's actual rackets! Have fun collecting more!!!:)

ChrisBackAtIt
02-27-2010, 10:55 PM
This is why we can't have nice things.

I'd like to thank FabFed for his contributions, and I'd like to extend a big middle finger to the bullies on this forum.

myalterego
02-28-2010, 10:38 AM
I think everyone here is just jealous that Fabfed has Federer's actual racquets and they can't acquire/afford them.

MichaelChang
02-28-2010, 11:16 AM
From Fabfed's perspective, it is actually better to leave this place. If he pays $7k for a racket and willing to pay $20k for a Fed's stick, well for sure he has better things to do than dealing with the craps here.

baek57
02-28-2010, 11:27 AM
I don't see what the big deal is. If you want to replicate a federer frame, just take a stock k90 (stated by Nate Ferguson of P1), use the same string setup with powerpads and string savers, and throw some lead under the bumper adjusting the amount so that the racquet weighs 364 grams (a la P1 pictures). Is it really that hard?

Six.One.Tour.90FAN
02-28-2010, 11:36 AM
why are people being so negative and thinking its a fake?
Of course its real! FabFed has numerous Federer memorabilia....
like that massive collection of shirts and shoes!
Fabfed is one of the best posters tw will see and i hope e'll come back to
this thread! No-one has a collection like him on tt.....appreciate it yeah?

diredesire
02-28-2010, 03:17 PM
A) There's one account for TW Staff, but many people log in under it, here, there are also "5-10" people, plus me. I'm not sure of the size of the forums some of you are claiming to police, but it takes me more than 5 minutes just to clean a single thread (such as this one) often, so stating it's "so easy" or "so fast" is really optimistic, especially when we try to encourage and allow "freedom of speech" (to a certain extent, which is defined by the rules).

For those of you that are trolling, I recommend you evaluate your behavior.

mikro112
02-28-2010, 03:58 PM
A) There's one account for TW Staff, but many people log in under it, here, there are also "5-10" people, plus me. I'm not sure of the size of the forums some of you are claiming to police, but it takes me more than 5 minutes just to clean a single thread (such as this one) often, so stating it's "so easy" or "so fast" is really optimistic, especially when we try to encourage and allow "freedom of speech" (to a certain extent, which is defined by the rules).

For those of you that are trolling, I recommend you evaluate your behavior.

I'm not saying that it's easy to take care of the trolling, but it's definitely possible. I'm staff on two 20,000+ users forums and we wouldn't/haven't allowed any trolling or personal attacks. In these boards, it's a one-two punch. First a user gets a profile infraction, second time -> ban. The problem here simply is that the trolling is not punished hardly enough in my opinion. Here are some users, who have many thousand posts, but of which 90% are trolling posts, which often destroy interesting threads. But it seems that they still can do whatever they want.

I do agree that freedom of speech should be maintained, but at which costs? Nearly every thread here on TT is going off-topic, there are often 3, 4 or even more threads on the same topic, and insults and trolling are not punished (or punishment is not visible to me).

Please don't get me wrong. I'm just stating my opinion in regards to what I have experienced with the boards I've been working on.

:)

corners
02-28-2010, 04:17 PM
I don't see what the big deal is. If you want to replicate a federer frame, just take a stock k90 (stated by Nate Ferguson of P1), use the same string setup with powerpads and string savers, and throw some lead under the bumper adjusting the amount so that the racquet weighs 364 grams (a la P1 pictures). Is it really that hard?

Harder and far less certain than putting one of Fabfed's famous sticks on an RDC machine. That takes like 60 seconds. But those P1 pics getting posted this week did reduce the demand for Fabfed to give it up.

sureshs
03-01-2010, 12:39 PM
You're all just jealous, honestly. You all WISHED you had half the collection Fabfed has.
-robJAR

That is just not it. I know you and others like to keep saying this, but that is not it. I personally have no desire to own half the collection that he has, and am not envious of him or anybody else. I would rather have a fraction of Fed's skills.

Six.One.Tour.90FAN
03-01-2010, 12:40 PM
SureshS...I have a question for you..

does GOAT mean Greatest of all time?
or Greatest of all Trolls?( i had to say it :) )

Have some respect and courtesy
You've ****ed some guys of (including me)

sureshs
03-01-2010, 12:43 PM
I'm not saying that it's easy to take care of the trolling, but it's definitely possible. I'm staff on two 20,000+ users forums and we wouldn't/haven't allowed any trolling or personal attacks. In these boards, it's a one-two punch. First a user gets a profile infraction, second time -> ban. The problem here simply is that the trolling is not punished hardly enough in my opinion. Here are some users, who have many thousand posts, but of which 90% are trolling posts, which often destroy interesting threads. But it seems that they still can do whatever they want.

I do agree that freedom of speech should be maintained, but at which costs? Nearly every thread here on TT is going off-topic, there are often 3, 4 or even more threads on the same topic, and insults and trolling are not punished (or punishment is not visible to me).

Please don't get me wrong. I'm just stating my opinion in regards to what I have experienced with the boards I've been working on.

:)

Looks like you are just ****ed off about what you don't like. Fine. But that is how the world is. You have no right to dictate what is the cost for what. I don't know what you do in other boards, and don't care. Keep your censorship going on elsewhere where it is tolerated but don't whine here.

sureshs
03-01-2010, 12:47 PM
It's posters like AlpineCadet and sureshs that really put me off posting on this forum. Some things never change. When I first posted photos of the first Fed K90 I got hold of in another thread “What are Federer's racquet specs (grip, weight, tension)?‎, I was criticised by a few posters, the main person being sureshs for refusing to post the exact specs of the racquet, take measurements on an RDC machine or playtest it [well actually sureshs did more than that, he accused me of stealing the Fed K90 as there was no way a poster could afford a real Fed stick so he said I probably stold it from Fed’s hotel room]. I thought there couldn’t be another poster more odious than sureshs but then AlpineCadet came along to provide some stiff competition. For the sake of these 2 posters let me just reiterated one last time –

First of all, as VGP noted, I’m into collecting memorabilia, more specifically Roger’s actual gear, such as his custom shirts and shoes, and racquets. As such, I acquire these things just to display them, not to wear or test them out. Logically speaking, wouldn’t it seem really dumb (no matter how keen I am) for me to play test Fed’s K90 and risk smudging the autograph on the handle or worst breaking the strings and even damaging the racquet? Really AlpineCadet, are you just a dense 12-year-old or is it because you are just so caught up in your own selfish curiosity on the specs of the racquet that you do not think about these possibilities or just plain care? Ron Yu himself said he was glad to hear that I wasn’t going to hit with it and that I should keep it nice and safe on a wall at home. So who are you AlpineCadet?

For that very same reason, I do not want to do anything else that might risk damaging the racquet. I will not bring it to some pro-shop to have some guy handle my racquet just so he can measure it on an RDC machine, nor do any other test to determine the balance and swingweight. I have stated many times before that I would do my best to respond to questions of posters on the racquet including measuring the static weight of the racquet, which I have, so long as it does not involve any of the above , and I have done all that – it was not selectively answering the “wierdest questions” as AlpineCadet claims (so you are claiming that questions from samster, drakulie and others which I responded to were weird?) – who are you to judge? Those are my racquets so its my prerogative, as some posters have pointed out.

AlpineCadet is basically saying I made no contributions to this forum, and that he (and I quote) “could match/or surpass this thread by visiting any search engine site” and that my thread is pointless as anyone could post pictures of Roger’s frames simply by “doing a google search on RF himself”. Last I recall, no one on this forum has ever posted pics (let alone clear close up ones) of Roger’s actual K90s and Nadal’s actual APDGT. Some of the photos I posted have already been circulated on other forums, and they seem pretty excited and happy about it. Can you really get the kind of photos that I posted on the net? Let’s see some, AlpineCadet. Also, let’s also see you match or surpass my thread as you claim you could. I am trying to get hold of an actual Fed BLX90 and start a thread when I do get it, but since you claim I am a fraud, I will just leave it to you then. You can start an actual Fed BLX90 “pics” thread by googling for the photos. Also, you seem to suggest that no one benefited from my threads, as they were just pics, not specs. If that’s the case, I should just stop my threads. For each of the threads I started, I spent hours taking photos and uploading them onto this forum. I lay out the racquets, take multiple photos of a single shot, choose the clearest and those that I think would be most useful to posters, resize them, put them on photobucket (which takes time given the numbers and size of the photos) and then place them on this forum. I even make sure that the background colour is appropriate (hence the white towels and tees) so that posters can get the best possible look at the racquets. It took a whole lot of effort. I could start a thread and say I have some top pro player’s frame and stop there and not post pics as a lot of other posters have done. But no, I have started threads with multiple large and clear pics of the sticks of not just any pro player, but those of Roger and Rafael, and this is the kind of grief I get.

As for you sureshs, you really are a piece of work. Notwithstanding your accusations against me (of being a thief) when I posted Fed’s racquet pics in the earlier thread and your subsequent criticisms and put downs, I accepted sincerely when you offered a truce to stop all that. I kept to my word and even responded to your queries as a fellow poster friend, but then you just couldn’t keep up your false new persona could you? You had to register as a new member “mrmb” (how pathetic is that) just to criticise me, but a number of posters saw through it and knew instantly that it was you. And what’s with this new line of argument of caring so much about how I spend my money and that other posters should care but they don’t? Is anyone really buying your care and concern about how I spend my money? How is it relevant? I have mentioned to you, even though I do not need to, that this is my hobby hence my willingness to spend on it You try to pass off as some really intelligent poster, but more often than not, you come off looking really asinine. I think you are just plain jealous (and dumb) and cannot accept the fact that a poster on this forum can actually afford such things and be at the same time, willing to share photos and info on the items with his follow posters. As I have said before, you stereotype and you are probably a bigot. As far as you are concerned, a poster like me cannot and must not appear on this forum. I come along and buck the trend and break the myth you hold so dearly and you can’t handle it. Sureshs, you need to get over yourself already.

I am sick and tired of such treatment. I don’t understand how we should waste our time with accusations and recriminations when the focus should really be on the tennis. There should be mutual respect and acceptance, instead of unreasonable demands and unwarranted criticisms. It is sad that my involvement in this TW forum has to end with this last post, but I will grant AlpineCadet and sureshs’ wish to not post here anymore. It is easy for some of you guys to say that I should just ignore their comments, but when I put in the kind of effort that I have, it just really affects me, call me sensitive but I think I am the wounded party here. Anyway good luck to you guys and its been nice knowing most of you (unlike sureshs, I will not be continuing posting under a new assumed identity).

Moderators – please do not remove this post, I deserve to have my ripostes to the comments of AlpineCadet and sureshs maintained on this thread. Thank you.

You still didn't get it. I did not comment on this thread till several others expressed their opinions. I have stated clearly what I meant and it has nothing to do with the authenticity or anything else. It is for your well-being and protecting you from "fans" who will like to see you bankrupt as long as you provide pics. If you want to take offense and play victim, it is upto you. But the people who praise you are your real enemies.

DennisK
03-01-2010, 12:55 PM
You still didn't get it. I did not comment on this thread till several others expressed their opinions. I have stated clearly what I meant and it has nothing to do with the authenticity or anything else. It is for your well-being and protecting you from "fans" who will like to see you bankrupt as long as you provide pics. If you want to take offense and play victim, it is upto you. But the people who praise you are your real enemies.

I'm sure that Fabfed really appreciates your concern and that you were really just looking after his best interests all along.

Its all so clear to me now. :roll:

sureshs
03-01-2010, 01:21 PM
I'm sure that Fabfed really appreciates your concern and that you were really just looking after his best interests all along.

Its all so clear to me now. :roll:

I didn't mean it that way - that I was trying to do some great help to him. What I meant was there is nothing wrong for someone to see that people would view their actions in a different way, and maybe there is something to it. If so many people like it, why would he take offense and remove the pics? You really think it was because of AlpineCadet that he took down the pics? I don't think so. I think he was conscious about the money he was spending and created a psychological defense to protect himself - namely, from the two bad guys who ask him where he got the racquet from and what the SW is (which I did not do in this thread, for the record - others did). I also personally went thru some mental gymnastics when I got a PS85 for $400 and people mocked me about it on this board. My wife was shocked. But I will never do that again. I knew it was an impulsive action and will control myself in the future. So I am familiar with these things.

DennisK
03-01-2010, 02:01 PM
sureshs, surely the one overriding thing that should be acknowledged to Fabfed, is that he had the good nature to register on this forum and put in the time and effort to show us things from his own personal collection. A collection I might add, that he had spend his own hard earned money on to obtain.

With Fabfed earning undoubtably a very good wage, I imagine that he has better things to do with his time than spending hours taking pics and hosting them up for us. Yet, he still posted things up on here for tennis junkies to look at, despite people calling him a thief and a liar.

He also stated time and again that he wasn't going to take the rackets to an RDC and stated time and again that he wasn't going to hit them either. Yet STILL idiots kept on and on at him, demanding that he do so, going on as though that the mere ownership of the rackets meant that he has some kind of 'responsibility' to the tennis community. When in actual fact, that very same community should have been grateful for any pictures and information the first place.

The vast majority (and especially the more knowledgeable / friendly / intelligent) of members were grateful to Fabfed for taking the time and effort to share his collection. But it seems to me that a very small minority of people were posting on his threads simply to try and discredit him. To me, its not that this spiteful minority were actually jealous of Fabfed's collection per se, but rather that they were jealous of the thanks and gratitude that he was (rightfully) getting.

Its almost like people somehow had it ingrained into their minds that Fabfed's sole reason for posting thing up on here was for sycophantic adulation. But like I said before, for somebody who obviously had a lot of disposable income, I'm sure he has much more interesting things to do than post on this forum. I guess he's now gone for good to do some of these less-boring things now, instead of wasting time on the boards with saddo's like us.

Personally, if i were him, I would have left a long time ago, such was the idiocy of some of the statements he was getting.

As for your statement that Fabfed was somehow financially over-stretching himself and creating a 'psychological defense', can you please enlighten me as to how you have come to such a conclusion?

J011yroger
03-01-2010, 02:18 PM
As for your statement that Fabfed was somehow financially over-stretching himself and creating a 'psychological defense', can you please enlighten me as to how you have come to such a conclusion?

Funny...I see it as the other way around. FabFed doing what he wants and what makes him happy with his money. Sureshs unable to do so must make a psychological defense because he is unable to do the same. And so Sureshs must believe that FabFed is doing wrong, because to believe otherwise would mean that Sureshs had done something wrong in his life because he is unable to do the same.

Maybe it is easier for me to understand because I am in a part of the country where I see people spend much more money, on much more frivolous stuff.

I have a customer who bought himself a Viper for his 50th birthday. He said he did it because he knew nobody else was going to get him anything good. He drives it about 500 miles a year.

J

J011yroger
03-01-2010, 02:20 PM
As for your statement that Fabfed was somehow financially over-stretching himself and creating a 'psychological defense', can you please enlighten me as to how you have come to such a conclusion?

Funny...I see it as the other way around. FabFed doing what he wants and what makes him happy with his money. Sureshs unable to do so must make a psychological defense because he is unable to do the same. And so Sureshs must believe that FabFed is doing wrong, because to believe otherwise would mean that Sureshs had done something wrong in his life because he is unable to do the same.

Maybe it is easier for me to understand because I am in a part of the country where I see people spend much more money, on much more frivolous stuff.

I have a customer who bought himself a Viper for his 50th birthday. He said he did it because he knew nobody else was going to get him anything good. He drives it about 500 miles a year.

J

DennisK
03-01-2010, 02:34 PM
Funny...I see it as the other way around. FabFed doing what he wants and what makes him happy with his money. Sureshs unable to do so must make a psychological defense because he is unable to do the same. And so Sureshs must believe that FabFed is doing wrong, because to believe otherwise would mean that Sureshs had done something wrong in his life because he is unable to do the same.

Maybe it is easier for me to understand because I am in a part of the country where I see people spend much more money, on much more frivolous stuff.

I have a customer who bought himself a Viper for his 50th birthday. He said he did it because he knew nobody else was going to get him anything good. He drives it about 500 miles a year.

J

I agree. Fabfed is (was) just indulging his passion and had the good nature to share his passion with like-minded individuals on here. There are people who buy priceless cars and then stick them away in a barn. never to be driven or seen by anyone ever again. At least Fabfed was kind enough to post his own private collection on here for us to see. Not any more sadly.

Its quite obvious the amount of jealousy which his posts stirred up in some idiots and this manifested itself in cynicism, personal attacks and jibes. I sometimes wonder how the world must look, seeing through such cynical eyes. It must be a gray place.

I guess the only amusement they actually get is by posting stupid things and trolling on discussion forums.

J011yroger
03-01-2010, 02:42 PM
^^^ Ya, I mean people bust on me for buying 26 K90s. And this is something I play with almost every day.

I find it totally ironic that nobody would say anything if I said, "Oh, I have a motorcycle, or fishing boat." and that would be something I only used at most on weekends in two seasons worth of the year and cost way more.

J

aimr75
03-01-2010, 03:06 PM
^^^ Ya, I mean people bust on me for buying 26 K90s. And this is something I play with almost every day.

I find it totally ironic that nobody would say anything if I said, "Oh, I have a motorcycle, or fishing boat." and that would be something I only used at most on weekends in two seasons worth of the year and cost way more.

J

Thats how i justify any racquet purchases to my fiance.. i tell her, at least im not spending 50k on a car.. what's a couple hundred here or there every so often on some racquets versus that type of purchase ;)

MichaelChang
03-01-2010, 04:32 PM
all right guys, unless Fabfed decides to come back (which I highly doubt will happen in the near future), it is time to retreat from all the Federer rackets and let this thread die. What a pity. Once in a few years one has a real Federer racket, and some people here had to bash him...

drake
03-01-2010, 07:08 PM
May he R.I.P.

quest01
03-01-2010, 07:37 PM
^^^ Ya, I mean people bust on me for buying 26 K90s. And this is something I play with almost every day.

I find it totally ironic that nobody would say anything if I said, "Oh, I have a motorcycle, or fishing boat." and that would be something I only used at most on weekends in two seasons worth of the year and cost way more.

J

You do have a point, buying 26 K90s is equivalent to buying a refrigerator or a computer, or a bed or something. Its not as if your spending it on something you don't need or would ever use. Personally I wouldn't do because I don't have a point cycling through 20 or so different racquets and it would take a huge commitment of sticking with one racquet model. The only time I bought a bunch of racquet is when I bough 12 Wilson PS 85s for a dollar each at a garage sale.

AlpineCadet
03-01-2010, 11:31 PM
FabFed wanted to share with the TTW community, kudos to him. But someone being a J.A. <AKA, male donkey>, and I won't mention names, was being pushy as hell when it came to RDC specs. This person was probably suspicious of FabFed's logic/action behind all that mystery, and lack of common courtesy for the Fed Fanatics/Lunatics (myself included.) But whatever it was FabFed had (oh, they were pictures), it's apparently gone now because he's decided to take random forum postings seriously and quit TW for good. I hope his retirement isn't as long as Henin's, and I seriously hope said J.A. behaves from now on.

AJK1
03-02-2010, 04:17 AM
Any reason why i can't see the photos, it says they are deleted?

mikro112
03-02-2010, 04:27 AM
Any reason why i can't see the photos, it says they are deleted?

Check the last 2 or 3 pages. You can read why the pics have been deleted there.

sureshs
03-02-2010, 04:29 AM
As for your statement that Fabfed was somehow financially over-stretching himself and creating a 'psychological defense', can you please enlighten me as to how you have come to such a conclusion?

It is not a conclusion and it is far from certain. So let us be clear on that. Having said that, the analogies being given here are not valid. Someone buying a Viper or a boat is not a comparison. If those guys behaved as if their existence depended on appreciation by everyone, then there is a comparison. A fact overlooked by some people here.

To suggest that he took down the pics because couple of people said "What is the SW" or "Aren't you wasting your money" is prepostorous. These are natural reactions to a thread of this nature. Also, no one was doubting the authenticity any more as he provided full details. Why does he post on the Internet if he only wants to hear what he likes?

MichaelChang
03-02-2010, 04:34 AM
FabFed wanted to share with the TTW community, kudos to him. But someone being a J.A. <AKA, male donkey>, and I won't mention names, was being pushy as hell when it came to RDC specs. This person was probably suspicious of FabFed's logic/action behind all that mystery, and lack of common courtesy for the Fed Fanatics/Lunatics (myself included.) But whatever it was FabFed had (oh, they were pictures), it's apparently gone now because he's decided to take random forum postings seriously and quit TW for good. I hope his retirement isn't as long as Henin's, and I seriously hope said J.A. behaves from now on.

This is a good laugh.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Thanks for all your efforts. now Fabfed retired. Now you happy.

It's posters like AlpineCadet and sureshs that really put me off posting on this forum...

JoelDali
03-02-2010, 05:08 AM
Its amazing what lack of sex can do to a young man.

mrmb
03-02-2010, 10:47 AM
Fabfed has left, my work is done:)

samster
03-02-2010, 10:48 AM
Fabfed has left, my work is done:)

Enough of this already.

JoelDali
03-02-2010, 11:33 AM
Enough of this already.

And people say banning IPs is over the top.

Alrighty then.

rovex
03-02-2010, 11:34 AM
Fabfed has left, my work is done:)

Who are you?

JoelDali
03-02-2010, 11:39 AM
Who are you?

People thought it was Suresh...but I think its some joker in Europe the way he spelled and spoke.

Fabfed should have ignored the trolls and kill them with silence.

He'll be back though...they always come back.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2600/3779262793_f3d19d5b9f_o.jpg

rovex
03-02-2010, 11:55 AM
What the heck is that?

JoelDali
03-02-2010, 12:03 PM
What the heck is that?

That is a piece of pop art from my grandfather's collection called, TrollingMouths(tm).

Six.One.Tour.90FAN
03-02-2010, 12:19 PM
Fabfed has left, my work is done:)

and when you leave...my work'll be done :)

AlpineCadet
03-02-2010, 12:35 PM
This is a good laugh.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Thanks for all your efforts. now Fabfed retired. Now you happy.

You have to listen to Celine Dion's 'My Heart Will Go On,' while channeling your thoughts to be with Jack and the rest of crew, while they're unfairly sinking deep into the calm ocean waters. Don't cry, just think about Rose.

What would Rose do, cry over k90's or precious Jack suffocating and freezing to death into a dark abyss!? Her heart went on, and so will yours! ;)

Greek Goliath
03-02-2010, 12:37 PM
You have to listen to Celine Dion's 'My Heart Will Go On,' while channeling your thoughts to be with Jack and the rest of crew, while they're unfairly sinking deep into the calm ocean waters. Don't cry, just think about Rose.

What would Rose do, cry over k90's or precious Jack suffocating and freezing to death into a dark abyss!? Her heart went on, and so will yours! ;)

Total BS. Everyone knows that Jack could've fit on the door:roll:

Cheers,

Greek Goliath

courtxplorer
03-02-2010, 12:45 PM
I believed TT was developed to be a site where tennis fans and collectors could come together to share a common passion without the fear of being ridiculed, berated or chastized.

Most of the time, TT is a great place. But occassionally, the board has become a haven for hatred and animosity spawned by immaturity, ignorance, and mostly jealously.

FabFed, if you're reading this, just be aware that there are those who appreciate your contribution. Some, if not all of us who are interested in your posts (including myself) are quite envious of your collection. We are undoubtedly curious as it is human nature. We fawn over things we wish we could have and are curious and amazed as to those things. Then there are those individuals whose envy becomes a raging, angry monster who gang up on you and lash out at you.

It's unfortunate, but life is not always a nice place, as I'm sure you are well aware.

That said, just know that "[j]ealousy is a symptom of a severe case of low self-esteem, and it’s a disease that can eat us alive. That's why jealous people are often angry."

So, don't be bothered by such negativity. Just ignore such individuals and rejoin the brethren of those who support you and appreciate your collection for what it simply is--a great one.

AlpineCadet
03-02-2010, 01:15 PM
I believed TT was developed to be a site where tennis fans and collectors could come together to share a common passion without the fear of being ridiculed, berated or chastized.

Most of the time, TT is a great place. But occassionally, the board has become a haven for hatred and animosity spawned by immaturity, ignorance, and mostly jealously.

FabFed, if you're reading this, just be aware that there are those who appreciate your contribution. Some, if not all of us who are interested in your posts (including myself) are quite envious of your collection. We are undoubtedly curious as it is human nature. We fawn over things we wish we could have and are curious and amazed as to those things. Then there are those individuals whose envy becomes a raging, angry monster who gang up on you and lash out at you.

It's unfortunate, but life is not always a nice place, as I'm sure you are well aware.

That said, just know that "[j]ealousy is a symptom of a severe case of low self-esteem, and it’s a disease that can eat us alive. That's why jealous people are often angry."

So, don't be bothered by such negativity. Just ignore such individuals and rejoin the brethren of those who support you and appreciate your collection for what it simply is--a great one.

BTW, concatumalashuns on your first post. Welcome!

Kick Serve 14
03-02-2010, 01:38 PM
What the heck is that?

A photoshopped image of Gary Busey...

DennisK
03-02-2010, 02:09 PM
It is not a conclusion and it is far from certain. So let us be clear on that. Having said that, the analogies being given here are not valid. Someone buying a Viper or a boat is not a comparison. If those guys behaved as if their existence depended on appreciation by everyone, then there is a comparison. A fact overlooked by some people here.


Are you always this cynical in real life? For your sake, I hope not.

AJK1
03-03-2010, 07:46 PM
It's posters like AlpineCadet and sureshs that really put me off posting on this forum. Some things never change. When I first posted photos of the first Fed K90 I got hold of in another thread “What are Federer's racquet specs (grip, weight, tension)?‎, I was criticised by a few posters, the main person being sureshs for refusing to post the exact specs of the racquet, take measurements on an RDC machine or playtest it [well actually sureshs did more than that, he accused me of stealing the Fed K90 as there was no way a poster could afford a real Fed stick so he said I probably stold it from Fed’s hotel room]. I thought there couldn’t be another poster more odious than sureshs but then AlpineCadet came along to provide some stiff competition. For the sake of these 2 posters let me just reiterated one last time –

First of all, as VGP noted, I’m into collecting memorabilia, more specifically Roger’s actual gear, such as his custom shirts and shoes, and racquets. As such, I acquire these things just to display them, not to wear or test them out. Logically speaking, wouldn’t it seem really dumb (no matter how keen I am) for me to play test Fed’s K90 and risk smudging the autograph on the handle or worst breaking the strings and even damaging the racquet? Really AlpineCadet, are you just a dense 12-year-old or is it because you are just so caught up in your own selfish curiosity on the specs of the racquet that you do not think about these possibilities or just plain care? Ron Yu himself said he was glad to hear that I wasn’t going to hit with it and that I should keep it nice and safe on a wall at home. So who are you AlpineCadet?

For that very same reason, I do not want to do anything else that might risk damaging the racquet. I will not bring it to some pro-shop to have some guy handle my racquet just so he can measure it on an RDC machine, nor do any other test to determine the balance and swingweight. I have stated many times before that I would do my best to respond to questions of posters on the racquet including measuring the static weight of the racquet, which I have, so long as it does not involve any of the above , and I have done all that – it was not selectively answering the “wierdest questions” as AlpineCadet claims (so you are claiming that questions from samster, drakulie and others which I responded to were weird?) – who are you to judge? Those are my racquets so its my prerogative, as some posters have pointed out.

AlpineCadet is basically saying I made no contributions to this forum, and that he (and I quote) “could match/or surpass this thread by visiting any search engine site” and that my thread is pointless as anyone could post pictures of Roger’s frames simply by “doing a google search on RF himself”. Last I recall, no one on this forum has ever posted pics (let alone clear close up ones) of Roger’s actual K90s and Nadal’s actual APDGT. Some of the photos I posted have already been circulated on other forums, and they seem pretty excited and happy about it. Can you really get the kind of photos that I posted on the net? Let’s see some, AlpineCadet. Also, let’s also see you match or surpass my thread as you claim you could. I am trying to get hold of an actual Fed BLX90 and start a thread when I do get it, but since you claim I am a fraud, I will just leave it to you then. You can start an actual Fed BLX90 “pics” thread by googling for the photos. Also, you seem to suggest that no one benefited from my threads, as they were just pics, not specs. If that’s the case, I should just stop my threads. For each of the threads I started, I spent hours taking photos and uploading them onto this forum. I lay out the racquets, take multiple photos of a single shot, choose the clearest and those that I think would be most useful to posters, resize them, put them on photobucket (which takes time given the numbers and size of the photos) and then place them on this forum. I even make sure that the background colour is appropriate (hence the white towels and tees) so that posters can get the best possible look at the racquets. It took a whole lot of effort. I could start a thread and say I have some top pro player’s frame and stop there and not post pics as a lot of other posters have done. But no, I have started threads with multiple large and clear pics of the sticks of not just any pro player, but those of Roger and Rafael, and this is the kind of grief I get.

As for you sureshs, you really are a piece of work. Notwithstanding your accusations against me (of being a thief) when I posted Fed’s racquet pics in the earlier thread and your subsequent criticisms and put downs, I accepted sincerely when you offered a truce to stop all that. I kept to my word and even responded to your queries as a fellow poster friend, but then you just couldn’t keep up your false new persona could you? You had to register as a new member “mrmb” (how pathetic is that) just to criticise me, but a number of posters saw through it and knew instantly that it was you. And what’s with this new line of argument of caring so much about how I spend my money and that other posters should care but they don’t? Is anyone really buying your care and concern about how I spend my money? How is it relevant? I have mentioned to you, even though I do not need to, that this is my hobby hence my willingness to spend on it You try to pass off as some really intelligent poster, but more often than not, you come off looking really asinine. I think you are just plain jealous (and dumb) and cannot accept the fact that a poster on this forum can actually afford such things and be at the same time, willing to share photos and info on the items with his follow posters. As I have said before, you stereotype and you are probably a bigot. As far as you are concerned, a poster like me cannot and must not appear on this forum. I come along and buck the trend and break the myth you hold so dearly and you can’t handle it. Sureshs, you need to get over yourself already.

I am sick and tired of such treatment. I don’t understand how we should waste our time with accusations and recriminations when the focus should really be on the tennis. There should be mutual respect and acceptance, instead of unreasonable demands and unwarranted criticisms. It is sad that my involvement in this TW forum has to end with this last post, but I will grant AlpineCadet and sureshs’ wish to not post here anymore. It is easy for some of you guys to say that I should just ignore their comments, but when I put in the kind of effort that I have, it just really affects me, call me sensitive but I think I am the wounded party here. Anyway good luck to you guys and its been nice knowing most of you (unlike sureshs, I will not be continuing posting under a new assumed identity).

Moderators – please do not remove this post, I deserve to have my ripostes to the comments of AlpineCadet and sureshs maintained on this thread. Thank you.

I missed the post, how much did it weigh ?

cgsd23
03-04-2010, 06:08 AM
streamlinepr@yahoo.com

thanks,

chris

mrmb
03-04-2010, 09:11 AM
and when you leave...my work'll be done :)

Well you better pull your finger out and get to work my homunculus!!