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db379
02-20-2010, 03:21 PM
I thought I would start this thread since the PAC 10 comp is starting to get interesting with 2 big matches Stanford vs UCLA and USC next week.

I'm watching Stanford vs Cal on the web cam right now and gosh Clayton's game has been going down lately! He definitely played better last year. So many unforced errors on easy balls, it's sometimes painful to watch. He's still a great player, but could be so much better if he could keep his focus throughout the match.

Fedace
02-20-2010, 03:45 PM
I thought I would start this thread since the PAC 10 comp is starting to get interesting with 2 big matches Stanford vs UCLA and USC next week.

I'm watching Stanford vs Cal on the web cam right now and gosh Clayton's game has been going down lately! He definitely played better last year. So many unforced errors on easy balls, it's sometimes painful to watch. He's still a great player, but could be so much better if he could keep his focus throughout the match.

Klahn is in a fight of his life...

http://www.gostanford.com/livestats/tennis/StanfordTennis.html

ClarkC
02-20-2010, 06:04 PM
Cal upset Stanford 4-3.

Stanford is a place you go to because of past reputation, not because the coaches can actually develop the potential of the players today. Highly recruited players come in and exit after four years not much better than they came in. Recruits might want to start considering that at some point.

Joeyg
02-20-2010, 06:32 PM
Ooooooopppppppssssss!

raging
02-21-2010, 12:53 AM
Cal upset Stanford 4-3.

Stanford is a place you go to because of past reputation, not because the coaches can actually develop the potential of the players today. Highly recruited players come in and exit after four years not much better than they came in. Recruits might want to start considering that at some point.

Clark, I know you have posted this before...who in your opinion is developing potential in college tennis? There are lots of good coaches out there...just wondering who they are?

db379
02-21-2010, 10:06 AM
Bad result for Stanford! When is the last time they lost to Cal? Must be a while ago. To be true, Cal played really well, better than I would have expected them to. Zerbini played the match of his life against Klahn and this one was soooo close. Well done Cal, but that's really a step down by Stanford.

db379
02-21-2010, 10:14 AM
Cal upset Stanford 4-3.

Stanford is a place you go to because of past reputation, not because the coaches can actually develop the potential of the players today. Highly recruited players come in and exit after four years not much better than they came in. Recruits might want to start considering that at some point.

True, Dick Gould was THE MAN. Can't Stanford get another Dick Gould? This is such a waste to have some of the top juniors coming to Stanford and not giving them all the opportunities to develop as players. It seems to be the reality though today. Coaches just use great talents and do nothing for them. Sad.

ClarkC
02-21-2010, 10:19 AM
Clark, I know you have posted this before...who in your opinion is developing potential in college tennis? There are lots of good coaches out there...just wondering who they are?

I am a Virginia fan and get to watch them up close, so I see the improvement of players from year to year very clearly. It is one of the strengths of the program.

USC has developed some players pretty well; witness the leaps made already by Steve Johnson. I have seen significant improvement over four years from some top recruits at Georgia, Baylor, Kentucky, Notre Dame, Wake Forest, Texas, Texas A&M.

UCLA seems to attract the surfer dude mentality: music, parties, outside interests, etc. I always overestimate UCLA because I look at their roster on paper and see a lot of big names that I remember from past seasons, and I think they are going to be a killer team. Each year, they seem to be good but not as great as I anticipated.

Stanford is the same result but for different reasons; I have to assume that coaching is the main reason.

The players who go to Ivy League schools are definitely academics first, tennis second, and I don't usually see the development over four years that I would expect. Stanford could have some of that factor as well.

Fedace
02-21-2010, 10:23 AM
Bad result for Stanford! When is the last time they lost to Cal? Must be a while ago. To be true, Cal played really well, better than I would have expected them to. Zerbini played the match of his life against Klahn and this one was soooo close. Well done Cal, but that's really a step down by Stanford.

Klahn's match was a bit disappointing. He dominated in the 1st set and he let up a bit in 2nd set and it allowed Zerbini to become confident. he really used is big forehand well.

db379
02-21-2010, 10:46 AM
to come back on this match yesterday, I still think the coach should have had Kandath play 6 and Hirshman 5. Kandath losing a tight match again and Greg winning his 3 and 3, they would probably have won...

db379
02-21-2010, 10:49 AM
Klahn's match was a bit disappointing. He dominated in the 1st set and he let up a bit in 2nd set and it allowed Zerbini to become confident. he really used is big forehand well.

True, but I was impressed by Zerbini. I really thought Klahn would win it but Zerbini showed strong mental at the end.

db379
02-21-2010, 10:58 AM
The players who go to Ivy League schools are definitely academics first, tennis second, and I don't usually see the development over four years that I would expect. Stanford could have some of that factor as well.

yes and no. Stanford is very strong on academics but they also managed to build THE most successful tennis program in the US when Gould was in charge. They were #1 for so many years in a row in the 90s and early 2000s. So many successful players on the tour went to Stanford, so I don't think that academics is the only reason to go there if you're a top junior. That was true 5 or 10 years ago though, today I guess if you're a top junior and went to have a shot at the pros, you better go to Virginia or another top tennis school.

pricey_aus
02-21-2010, 01:00 PM
What do you guys think of Oregon?

Fedace
02-21-2010, 03:56 PM
What do you guys think of Oregon?

Only good player there is Marcos Verdasco, cousin of Fernando Verdasco...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCS7jVfz_Js

DownTheLine
02-21-2010, 05:00 PM
Only good player there is Marcos Verdasco, cousin of Fernando Verdasco...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCS7jVfz_Js

They look EXTREMELY alike.

Fedace
02-21-2010, 05:11 PM
They look EXTREMELY alike.

I know. I heard someone from USC mistook him for Fernando and tried to get his autograph...and his racket..... and tried to see what racket he is really using under that PJ......:)

schaefferm46
02-21-2010, 06:11 PM
..........

Fedace
02-21-2010, 06:12 PM
Verdasco is playing 2 this year. Number 1 is Alexander Cornelissen. He beat Number 16 in the country from boise.

They are 9 and 2 this year pretty solid but it will be tough in the pac 10 season

Yes i agree. Cornelissen was talking about going Pro. and I think he has a future. He is very talented....

schaefferm46
02-21-2010, 06:18 PM
..........

pricey_aus
02-22-2010, 02:03 AM
Do you think they would be a good team to play for?

Fedace
02-22-2010, 02:43 AM
Do you think they would be a good team to play for?

Yes. but you have to meet the coach and the team. See if their personality and goals are to your liking. As far as college goes, it is a good solid program in the west coast.

pricey_aus
02-22-2010, 03:18 AM
Yes. but you have to meet the coach and the team. See if their personality and goals are to your liking. As far as college goes, it is a good solid program in the west coast.

I'm good mates with one of the guys on the team and yeah i dunno. We shall see what happens :D

The-Lengend
02-22-2010, 09:34 AM
Oregon is a great school to go to as an athlete. The school is basically unmatched on the support they give their athletes. You will sometimes hear people refer to it as the University of Nike because of all the money Nike founder Phil Knight donates to the athletic program (Nike basically started at Oregon)

Of course if you have a friend on the team it he would have more information.

Kick_It
02-22-2010, 10:09 AM
IMO the cool thing about tennis @ U of O is you play in a tough conference against top teams in the nation.

I had a chance to go to school and play there 25 years ago and declined it. Back then there was the 6-pac (CA+AZ), and nor-pac (OR+WA). Now the facilities and coaching staff are IMO substantially better.

IMO today they're still an outcast from the main action in the PAC-10; look at their results and standings in conference over the past 5-10 years. There was one talented guy who played there a couple years ago - Sven - and did pretty well.

I'm sure your buddy can tell you way more than anyone here will.

Good Luck! K_I

Fedace
02-22-2010, 04:20 PM
Great matches coming up this weekend. Stanford plays USC and UCLA. Lets sweep and get back on the winning road again. Cal bears lucky win will mean nothing in the long run. They probably won't even make it to georgia.

db379
02-27-2010, 11:31 AM
After the rain yesterday, Stanford hosts USC today! Big game in perspective, and you can watch it live on the Stanford webcam! Let's hope Stanford recovered from the last terrible showing against Cal. Go Stanford!

db379
02-27-2010, 01:26 PM
Singles started! Klahn was 4-2 down but broke back Farah at #1.

db379
02-27-2010, 01:28 PM
Wire and Hirschman started really strong, and are already leading 4-2 and 5-1 respectively. Come on guys.

db379
02-27-2010, 01:29 PM
Kandath on the other hand continues his bad record in the pack 10...

db379
02-27-2010, 01:38 PM
Alex is firing on all cylinders, hot FH today, and he's up 5-3 against Johnson.

db379
02-27-2010, 01:39 PM
Is there anyone out there?

db379
02-27-2010, 01:43 PM
Clayton and Wire 1 set up! Good stuff.

db379
02-27-2010, 01:44 PM
this is a one man show ... (talking about me on this thread right now). This is high quality college tennis out there. you guys don't know what you're missing...

db379
02-27-2010, 01:52 PM
Thatcher and Hirschman also 1 set up

db379
02-27-2010, 01:53 PM
Boy, Klahn lost the 1 set on tie-break!

db379
02-27-2010, 02:45 PM
Alex wins in 2, so does Greg.

darthpwner
02-27-2010, 06:08 PM
Stanford lost 3-4.:(

Fedace
02-27-2010, 08:03 PM
Stanford lost 3-4.:(

Alex showed why he is the best in NCAA division 1 today. but the Doubles really killed them. #2 and #3 doubles have to be more consistant day in and day out. Can't have any lapses in doubles, especially against top teams. This one hurts but i think the guys will be stronger for it come NCAA tournament in Georgia. :)

db379
02-28-2010, 10:18 AM
Alex showed why he is the best in NCAA division 1 today. but the Doubles really killed them. #2 and #3 doubles have to be more consistant day in and day out. Can't have any lapses in doubles, especially against top teams. This one hurts but i think the guys will be stronger for it come NCAA tournament in Georgia. :)

True, this was a very tight match. #1 singles could have gone either way, high quality of play from both players, bad luck for Brad to loose that 1st set on the tie-break. Again doubles were so close, it could have been a win for Stanford. I think they showed that they were back on track, which is positive in the end.

db379
02-28-2010, 10:28 AM
i was dissapointed by numbers 4 and 5 singles for Stanford. If they want to win the PAC10 and have a shot at the NCAA title, they MUST have strong players at every position. I'm sorry to say, but IMO these two are not honoring their team... don't want to be harsh but there may be other guys in the team who might want to have a shot at playing too, and maybe win.

goldfish81
02-28-2010, 01:11 PM
too bad stanford lost. usc played well when it counted but good rebound after last weeks loss

pac10s.com

Fedace
02-28-2010, 08:28 PM
i was dissapointed by numbers 4 and 5 singles for Stanford. If they want to win the PAC10 and have a shot at the NCAA title, they MUST have strong players at every position. I'm sorry to say, but IMO these two are not honoring their team... don't want to be harsh but there may be other guys in the team who might want to have a shot at playing too, and maybe win.

Not sure who that could be ?? Next guys up are, Denis Lin, Walker Kehrer and so on. Hirshman regularly beats up on Denis Lin at the moment. Rich Wire can still get you some good wins. Key is to catch fire at all positions when the NCAA comes around. Right now, it is almost as though they are taking turns winning and losing....:???: Clayton wins one day and loses next, and same with other guys like Kendath.

TourTenor
03-01-2010, 08:47 AM
db379 = Fedace??:confused:

woodrow1029
03-01-2010, 04:11 PM
db379 = Fedace??:confused:
I thought so at first, but I don't think Fedace would ever say two of the players aren't honoring their team.

Plus, the spelling and grammar are too correct.

socaltennnis
03-01-2010, 06:05 PM
Crosstown showdown on Wednesday. Pretty interesting match. Defending Pac-10 champs take on defending National Champs.

Fedace
03-01-2010, 06:16 PM
Stanford's next victim Utah on wednesday. then some great doubles action in Sandiego, CA. Pacific Coast doubles. Look for Alex Clayton and Rich Wire to take it all this year. They looked Awsome in practice today.................Go Cardinal. Lets show them what we are made of.

T10s747
03-01-2010, 07:57 PM
Dennis Lin and Kandath is not a strong doubles tandem. I dpn't see them winning against strong opponents. Kandath & Kerher may be better. Why don't they swap Kandath and Hirschman in the 5 and 6 position?

Fedace
03-01-2010, 08:59 PM
Dennis Lin and Kandath is not a strong doubles tandem. I dpn't see them winning against strong opponents. Kandath & Kerher may be better. Why don't they swap Kandath and Hirschman in the 5 and 6 position?

Newflash. Denis Lin is better doubles player than Kandath, just so that you know.

TourTenor
03-02-2010, 09:35 AM
I thought so at first, but I don't think Fedace would ever say two of the players aren't honoring their team.

Plus, the spelling and grammar are too correct.
If you're right then the Stanford fan base here at TT just increased 100%. :wink: