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Greg Raven
03-13-2010, 04:07 PM
I've had very little time to check specs on racquets, but I did grab swingweights on a couple of sticks. These are for strung racquets, ready to go:

Aspelin: 363
B. Bryan: 368
M. Bryan: 354
Davydenko: 352
Moya: 399
Odesnik: 385
Soderling: 392

Measurement units are kg*cm^2.

Fedace
03-13-2010, 04:13 PM
^^^How is it possible for Bryans to hit those Lightening Quick Volleys with such Heavy SW ?????????????????????

PED
03-13-2010, 04:17 PM
^^^How is it possible for Bryans to hit those Lightening Quick Volleys with such Heavy SW ?????????????????????

Superior genetics ;)

Fedace
03-13-2010, 04:20 PM
That gives me hope to see that. my reflexes at net lately has been slowing down somewhat.

mdqm
03-13-2010, 04:30 PM
thanks for sharing greg,i'll be waiting for more.
some pic's?

travlerajm
03-13-2010, 05:07 PM
^^^How is it possible for Bryans to hit those Lightening Quick Volleys with such Heavy SW ?????????????????????

Most top doubles players have relatively high SW. For accurate volleying, it's important to have a lot of mass in the hoop for more stability.

Fedace
03-13-2010, 05:52 PM
Most top doubles players have relatively high SW. For accurate volleying, it's important to have a lot of mass in the hoop for more stability.

but how do you get the racket head up so quick when SW is so high. my racket head would be only 1/2 way there when the ball is coming that quick and SW of racket is so high.....:)

mikro112
03-13-2010, 06:04 PM
but how do you get the racket head up so quick when SW is so high. my racket head would be only 1/2 way there when the ball is coming that quick and SW of racket is so high.....:)

They have the racquet head up all the time and only take it down for low shots. Please check out again how to play a proper volley!

Does it make sense?

Greg Raven
03-13-2010, 06:14 PM
thanks for sharing greg,i'll be waiting for more.
some pic's?

The photos are here:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=156685&id=659626601

JStar7
03-13-2010, 06:24 PM
Greg, do you think you'll get the chance to string Fed's stick and collect the specs on his new BLX?

ChevyTennis
03-13-2010, 07:12 PM
Greg, do you think you'll get the chance to string Fed's stick and collect the specs on his new BLX?

Fed has his sticks strung by the guys at Priority 1. He does not use tournament stringers.

JStar7
03-13-2010, 07:32 PM
Fed has his sticks strung by the guys at Priority 1. He does not use tournament stringers.

I know that, but I wanted to find out what the odds are. He does have specs of Federer's frame on his site, so I thought there might be a very small chance he could, although not likely.

Nextman916
03-13-2010, 08:13 PM
Its ridiculous how Moya uses 399 sw with a PD....

Greg Raven
03-14-2010, 05:13 AM
Greg, do you think you'll get the chance to string Fed's stick and collect the specs on his new BLX?

I might be able to get his tension from Ron Yu, but I doubt I'll see one of his sticks, let alone measure it. Sorry.

FirstServeThenVolleyAway
03-14-2010, 05:36 AM
^^^How is it possible for Bryans to hit those Lightening Quick Volleys with such Heavy SW ?????????????????????

"It's not the plane.............................but the pilot?"

Bash and Crash
03-14-2010, 11:28 AM
but how do you get the racket head up so quick when SW is so high. my racket head would be only 1/2 way there when the ball is coming that quick and SW of racket is so high.....:)

if you have a short quick stroke, keep your racket up, a heavy racket is great to volley with, it does all the work and can handle 80-100mph missiles.

Kick Serve 14
03-14-2010, 03:57 PM
^^^How is it possible for Bryans to hit those Lightening Quick Volleys with such Heavy SW ?????????????????????

They're pros...

bigmatt
03-14-2010, 05:56 PM
They're pros...

When you're facing hard-hit balls at net, you need a heavy frame to get the recoilweight up high enough to keep the racquet from kicking back in your hand. However, I think that, if Greg can find time to post specs, the weight is in the handle, not the head.

SFrazeur
03-14-2010, 09:22 PM
^^^How is it possible for Bryans to hit those Lightening Quick Volleys with such Heavy SW ?????????????????????
but how do you get the racket head up so quick when SW is so high. my racket head would be only 1/2 way there when the ball is coming that quick and SW of racket is so high.....:)

They are some of the best doubles players ever, and your on TT with over 15,000 posts. . .

-SF

Greg Raven
03-15-2010, 06:03 AM
When you're facing hard-hit balls at net, you need a heavy frame to get the recoilweight up high enough to keep the racquet from kicking back in your hand. However, I think that, if Greg can find time to post specs, the weight is in the handle, not the head.

Wrong. With that swingweight on that frame, the weight is in the head. However, these frames are .25-inches longer than stock, which means there is a little less additional mass than one might expect.

PED
03-15-2010, 06:24 AM
Greg, one quick question.

Jason Goodall made the point the other day that the RPM blast is a good deal more elastic and more powerful than Duralast.

He mentioned that Rafa was stringing tighter to compensate-any truth to this?

thejackal
03-15-2010, 02:32 PM
I spy a few star 3s on the facebook pictures. why not upgrade to something more recent? strung on a star 3 this weekend and found it easy to use, but what about it makes it still the go-to machine?

big hitter
03-15-2010, 06:31 PM
you can travel with it

drakulie
03-16-2010, 06:46 AM
I spy a few star 3s on the facebook pictures. why not upgrade to something more recent? strung on a star 3 this weekend and found it easy to use, but what about it makes it still the go-to machine?


Very easy to transport (light weight)
Doesn't break down.
Easy to string on (very fast)
needs very little maintenance.
accurate
etc.

For whatever reason, Babolat, IMO, has not really done a good job with the new line of stringing machines (star 5, sensor series) as has been their history each time they provide a new series of machines and making each series better than it's predecessors.

The star 5, compared to the star 3 and 4 is not a step forward, rather a step back, as is the sensor series compared to the 3502, 4002, 5502, etc.




PS: Thanks for sharing the info Greg. As always, much appreciated.

Fedchamp
03-16-2010, 07:55 AM
Superior genetics ;)
...and ability.

Greg Raven
03-17-2010, 04:17 PM
Greg, one quick question.

Jason Goodall made the point the other day that the RPM blast is a good deal more elastic and more powerful than Duralast.

He mentioned that Rafa was stringing tighter to compensate-any truth to this?

Two things:

First, the couple players I asked about RPM Blast seemed to say that it had less power, not more. YMMV.

Second, I just glanced at Nadal's reel, and it didn't seem to be RPM Blast.

Greg Raven
03-17-2010, 04:20 PM
Very easy to transport (light weight)
Doesn't break down.
Easy to string on (very fast)
needs very little maintenance.
accurate
etc.

For whatever reason, Babolat, IMO, has not really done a good job with the new line of stringing machines (star 5, sensor series) as has been their history each time they provide a new series of machines and making each series better than it's predecessors.

The star 5, compared to the star 3 and 4 is not a step forward, rather a step back, as is the sensor series compared to the 3502, 4002, 5502, etc.




PS: Thanks for sharing the info Greg. As always, much appreciated.

You're welcome. I like a couple things about the Star 4 -- such as the easy pounds/kilos switch and the programmable separate tension for the crosses, but even the newest Star 4 is pretty old these days. I'll take my Star 5 any day. It adjusts high, the base clamps hold better, the string clamps are far superior, you don't have to switch the program when going from nylon/gut to poly/kevlar, the ergonomics are better, etc. I don't travel with it that much, so the size, shape, and weight are not big factors.

PED
03-17-2010, 04:48 PM
Two things:

Second, I just glanced at Nadal's reel, and it didn't seem to be RPM Blast.

Do tell :)

raging
03-19-2010, 12:06 AM
Greg and Drak, thanks for sharing your opinions on both the star 5 and star 4 -
looks like both machines have their qualities!
Greg : your comment on RPM may unleash the demons...rumour is Rafa is using a 3rd string...not RPM, not PHT Black! :twisted:
Appreciate the info: the discussion on swingweight can continue! :evil:

Bjorn
03-19-2010, 12:29 AM
Greg, whose Pro Storm Tour is that in George's stack of racquets?

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs401.snc3/24321_365366311601_659626601_3574155_524916_n.jpg

ivo
03-19-2010, 06:02 AM
Greg,

thanks for your always very useful information.

Will you have opportunity to measure racquets of actually remaining players?

I am guessing all my tennis life :) what weight and SW Ljubicic play with his slow swing style.

dgoran
03-19-2010, 08:30 AM
I second that I would love to know his racket specs...

Greg Raven
03-19-2010, 04:18 PM
Greg, whose Pro Storm Tour is that in George's stack of racquets?

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs401.snc3/24321_365366311601_659626601_3574155_524916_n.jpg

I'll have to check the logbook. It was someone who was there early (because of when I took the photo), and it wasn't Samantha Stosur.

OliverSimon
03-19-2010, 05:53 PM
Greg, whose Pro Storm Tour is that in George's stack of racquets?

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs401.snc3/24321_365366311601_659626601_3574155_524916_n.jpg

Juan Ignacio Chela.

Bjorn
03-19-2010, 10:42 PM
Juan Ignacio Chela.

Cheers :)

10char

brownbearfalling
03-19-2010, 11:01 PM
Hey Greg are you one of the stringers also? How many frames does each stringer string a day?

thanks for the information. Also I didn't see a rdc. What did you use to test?

Greg Raven
03-21-2010, 03:35 PM
Do tell :)

The reel said "Babolat Power," if I'm not mistaken, but the printing on the string says "Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour 135/15L." I should probably measure before I say anything, but the string doesn't feel cylindrical -- it feels oblong.

PED
03-21-2010, 03:38 PM
The reel said "Babolat Power," if I'm not mistaken, but the printing on the string says "Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour 135/15L." I should probably measure before I say anything, but the string doesn't feel cylindrical -- it feels oblong.

Thanks for the info, I've been using the Bab test string over the last few days. The one that I have is quite high powered but I like it and it's def a "shaped" string and not cylindrical.

Greg Raven
03-21-2010, 03:39 PM
Hey Greg are you one of the stringers also? How many frames does each stringer string a day?

thanks for the information. Also I didn't see a rdc. What did you use to test?

I was working the desk a couple hours a day in addition to stringing, so I was only doing 19-20 sticks a day. Casey Maus, the alpha stringer with Star Stringing, was starting around 7:00 in the morning, and getting ten racquets done by 10:00 A.M., and 23 done by 3:00 P.M. He was pretty easily doing 36 sticks a day, and leaving well before the rest of us.

The Babolat Racquet Diagnostic Center is in the corner, on the table, in the photo labelled "Customization area." It's an original with the yellow graphics, and it is not on a stand.

Greg Raven
03-21-2010, 03:42 PM
Thanks for the info, I've been using the Bab test string over the last few days. The one that I have is quite high powered but I like it and it's def a "shaped" string and not cylindrical.

A lot of the players had reels of RPM Blast that had various testing codes on them, as if they had starting using the string before it had gained a name. Nadal's string was different to all outward appearances, but if it's shaped, that may be what you have.

PED
03-21-2010, 03:43 PM
A lot of the players had reels of RPM Blast that had various testing codes on them, as if they had starting using the string before it had gained a name. Nadal's string was different to all outward appearances, but if it's shaped, that may be what you have.

Yeah, nothing but the best for me and Rafa....lol ;)

Greg Raven
03-21-2010, 03:49 PM
Greg,

thanks for your always very useful information.

Will you have opportunity to measure racquets of actually remaining players?

I am guessing all my tennis life :) what weight and SW Ljubicic play with his slow swing style.

Ljubicic is with Roman (as is Roddick), so I didn't have access to his racquets.