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jemsiter
03-17-2010, 04:10 PM
Hi guys, I've just got Andy Roddick's racquets straight from Indian Wells. He used these two frames in Austrailian Open 2010 up until his Sunday match against Lu in Indian Wells. You can see from the code inside the throat the racquets were strung on 3/12 and 3/13 at 63 lbs. Also he uses PHT 17 main and VS Gut 16 cross, not PHT 16 like before. The codes on the buttcap indicate these are Andy Roddick's 536th and 547th racquet. The racquet is not as heavy as I thought it would be. I will get the measurements later. I only have my iphone with me right now. I will take better pictures later. There is a picture showing a paint chip... I was trying to figure out what's under the paint. Here are the pics:



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/AR01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/AR02.jpg

jemsiter
03-17-2010, 04:10 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/AR05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/AR06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/AR07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/AR08.jpg
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jemsiter
03-17-2010, 04:11 PM
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dincuss
03-17-2010, 04:15 PM
NICE 8)
are you his stringer?

jemsiter
03-17-2010, 04:26 PM
NICE 8)
are you his stringer?

no I am not his stringer, but I know his stringer

jemsiter
03-17-2010, 04:37 PM
One more thing... the codes on the buttcap indicate these are Andy Roddick's 536th and 547th racquet

ChevyTennis
03-17-2010, 04:44 PM
Wow! Nice get! can't wait to see the specs on these.

Storm_Kyori
03-17-2010, 05:58 PM
so no cortex, i may be old news, but not to me.

decades
03-17-2010, 06:29 PM
so "non polarized" setup...

ebster
03-17-2010, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the pics! Nice acquisition!

Is that one layer or two of lead at 3 and 9?

Also, I would be very curious to learn where / how much lead may be under the grip on the handle or in the butt cap.

I completely understand if you don't want to mess with the overgrip / replacement grip but it would be awesome to learn about his complete customization setup.

Cheers!

featherlight
03-17-2010, 09:02 PM
cool stuff man , post more specs of it
thanks in advance

Ross K
03-17-2010, 09:03 PM
Nice catch there... a few qsns if I may...

Is that lead @ 3 and 9 or actually a bit higher up?

Any lead on the handle?

Finally and most importantly - have you hit with it?... Basically I'm very curious to hear impressions about the feel/flex of ARod's actual frame...

Cheers,

R.

jemsiter
03-17-2010, 09:37 PM
Thanks everyone

I will ask the person who modify roddick's racquets for the specs etc.
There is only one layer of lead and they are a little bit higher than 3 and 9 but lower than 2 and 10.
No I will not hit with them because I want to keep them the way they are as collectible. But from what I've heard from his stringer the frame is very stiff.

I am surprise how much wear is on the strings just from a few games in a match. The strings has more wear than my 2 months old stringjob

PurePrestige
03-17-2010, 09:47 PM
For the above,
There probably won't be any lead under the grip or in the buttcap, the people who customize Roddicks racquets make custom handles that are to his weight specs in order to attain the right combination of balance, static weight, and swingweight that Roddick prefers.

nn
03-17-2010, 10:16 PM
head light or head heavy

people say it is head heavy

nn
03-17-2010, 10:17 PM
btw overgrip tourna..confirm oh we knew

jemsiter
03-17-2010, 10:44 PM
Not official but feels like 4-5 points headlight
Tourna extra wide overgrips

jemsiter
03-17-2010, 10:48 PM
One interesting observation... both frames has the same side of the bumper guard wears much more than the other side... suggesting Roddick always holds his racquets the same side up

Ross K
03-17-2010, 11:04 PM
One interesting observation... both frames has the same side of the bumper guard wears much more than the other side... suggesting Roddick always holds his racquets the same side up

Yeah, me too!...................

Kenny022593
03-18-2010, 03:03 AM
Waits for AlpineCadet and suresh

baseline_monster
03-18-2010, 03:25 AM
Thanks everyone

I will ask the person who modify roddick's racquets for the specs etc.
There is only one layer of lead and they are a little bit higher than 3 and 9 but lower than 2 and 10.
No I will not hit with them because I want to keep them the way they are as collectible. But from what I've heard from his stringer the frame is very stiff.

I am surprise how much wear is on the strings just from a few games in a match. The strings has more wear than my 2 months old stringjob

Nice, I held his rackets when I was in New York, would you agree that there not as heavy as a lot of people would think? Also, this is probs as close as you can get the a stock stick from the last few years

ChevyTennis
03-18-2010, 03:29 AM
Waits for AlpineCadet and suresh

Ha ha- that was my first thought when I saw this thread!

dgoran
03-18-2010, 04:30 AM
Hey man people said that he is using swirly pd+ which has 1 mm thicker beem and it feels slightly stiffer (I own Swirly PD Team and 2001 PD Team+)

When I measured swirly's beam at the throat (right about where paintchip is on yours) it was 1mm thicker.

Any chance you can measure the balance?

Also if you have a scale I am curious what is it strung with OG and all that stuff...

So you see any lead at 12?

PED
03-18-2010, 04:32 AM
I believe Racquetcraft posted his specs a month or two back. If memory serves me, it was 320g unstrung with no OG.

Here they are courtesy of RC :)

Weight: 320 g weight overall
Balance: 32.3 cm
Swing Weight: 322 kgxcm2

dgoran
03-18-2010, 04:35 AM
so that would be around 345 350 strung with overgrip than

PED
03-18-2010, 04:51 AM
Yes, the rule of thumb is 30 units by stringing. It's much less of a club than I had been led to believe.

I guess OG would add 6g and string would add 18g so that is 344g. Fairly light relatively and part of that SW comes not from the mass but from the extended length.

dgoran
03-18-2010, 04:59 AM
My XL tourna on PD+ ads 7gr and strings I would think 20gr or so...

dgoran
03-18-2010, 05:00 AM
I just wondered if he adds lead at 12 as well. PD+ simply becomes a monster after lead at 12...
actually all Babolats do...

PED
03-18-2010, 05:02 AM
Good point, I forgot that tourna he has is XL and he uses it all it seems...all the way up to the "cortex". Not sure on the weight of the gut, my 16g full poly usually adds 18 or 19g.

I'll be curious about the lead at 12 as well but almost would think he doesn't because of the low static weight.

dgoran
03-18-2010, 05:08 AM
Unrelated: but how do you like rpm blast comparing to spin x?

jemsiter
03-18-2010, 07:58 AM
No lead at 12. No lead under bumper guard.
The handle is custom mold so there are some lead under the molded handle.
Actually Roddicks tourna grip is not longer than a regular tourna grip, it's just wider so it goes all the way up. I will post a pic with comparison later.
I don't have a scale with me now so I don't know the weight, but it is a fairly light racquet.

pabletion
03-18-2010, 08:32 AM
I just wondered if he adds lead at 12 as well. PD+ simply becomes a monster after lead at 12...
actually all Babolats do...

why/how? Could you elaborate? I love experimenting with lead, I lead up my Pure Storm GT at 3 & 9 and on the handle...

dgoran
03-18-2010, 08:39 AM
So its definitely head light 6-7 pts since that lead is 5in on each side so 5 gr total. If they added weight to the handle it must be even more head light

PED
03-18-2010, 08:59 AM
Unrelated: but how do you like rpm blast comparing to spin x?


I'm picking up my strung stick today and will play with it tomorrow.....I hope. Really looking forward to trying it out. SpinX is gonna be tough to be beat.

downs_chris
03-18-2010, 09:25 AM
I'm picking up my strung stick today and will play with it tomorrow.....I hope. Really looking forward to trying it out. SpinX is gonna be tough to be beat.

yeah -- definitely let us know how that plays out...i've been loving RPM Blast so far, and just picked up a few packs of Spin X silver....should be here in a few days...

nn
03-18-2010, 09:53 AM
So its definitely head light 6-7 pts since that lead is 5in on each side so 5 gr total. If they added weight to the handle it must be even more head light

yeah people and commentator also said his racquet is light compare to normal heavy pro stick.

I think it will be head light atleast 5 point (like Nadal) otherwise very tough to hit such serve for 10 years in a row without any shoulder injury.

NoleDjoko
03-18-2010, 10:35 AM
great mold thanks for the specs

SuperDuy
03-18-2010, 10:35 AM
great get, thanks for the pics, now someone, save the pics before sureshhshshs comes

dgoran
03-18-2010, 12:01 PM
I did...;)

pmacino
03-18-2010, 06:55 PM
Great find, thanks for posting!

ChevyTennis
03-18-2010, 06:57 PM
I did...;)

I did as well :wink:

MTennisMan
03-19-2010, 08:04 PM
Does roddick still use the pure drive team

ChevyTennis
03-19-2010, 08:14 PM
I wonder why Andy isn't sponsored by Tournagrip... obviously he likes it.

Kick Serve 14
03-20-2010, 07:58 PM
I wonder why Andy is sponsored by Tournagrip... obviously he likes it.

Maybe thats why...

jemsiter
03-20-2010, 09:21 PM
Tourna II is so much better than the original Tourna
The old one would only last one set max

Fedace
03-20-2010, 09:33 PM
why does pros hate the Cortex. only real pro that uses the cortex is Ryan Sweeting. for me, Cortex really enhances the feel and kills the bad vibrations..

raging
03-20-2010, 10:57 PM
why does pros hate the Cortex. only real pro that uses the cortex is Ryan Sweeting. for me, Cortex really enhances the feel and kills the bad vibrations..

because a lot of the pros like the hollow feel when you smack it!
You can lead them up, customize and turn it into a real club.:twisted:
I have got the PD Team 3rd generation and Andy has got the "swirly" 2nd I think?? and even those are different in feel.
I like the new ones...they are much more forgiving but when I played I wanted instant feedback..damn the bad vibrations...I only wanted...Good Vibrations!:)

ChevyTennis
03-21-2010, 08:17 AM
Maybe thats why...

I actually meant why is he isn't sponsored by Tournagrip. I saw one of their commercials and he's not even shown as a player using it- like the Bryan Bros., Sampras, and Blake to name a few.

Kick Serve 14
03-21-2010, 09:18 AM
I actually meant why is he isn't sponsored by Tournagrip. I saw one of their commercials and he's not even shown as a player using it- like the Bryan Bros., Sampras, and Blake to name a few.

That's a good question, I don't know why...

Kick Serve 14
03-21-2010, 09:19 AM
why does pros hate the Cortex. only real pro that uses the cortex is Ryan Sweeting. for me, Cortex really enhances the feel and kills the bad vibrations..

Because most pros don't like changing their equipment, and besides, the Cortex rackets are just a gimmick that give you TE...

ChevyTennis
03-22-2010, 05:43 AM
Hey jemsiter- have you had a chance to spec these frames out yet?

jemsiter
03-22-2010, 09:20 PM
Hey jemsiter- have you had a chance to spec these frames out yet?

I've been busy with projects and stuff. I will try to get the specs this week.
Maybe I will bring it to Racket Doctor and have them measure the specs and setup a stock frame with the exact same specs.

armsty
03-22-2010, 11:43 PM
Anybody else thing, judging by yoke, just above the handle it could be a Wilson?

SFrazeur
03-23-2010, 05:45 AM
Anybody else thing, judging by yoke, just above the handle it could be a Wilson?

*crickets chirping*

babolat king
03-23-2010, 09:31 AM
i didnt know he uses tourna grip i thought he was using the babolat grips

YenNguyen
03-23-2010, 07:52 PM
I believe Racquetcraft posted his specs a month or two back. If memory serves me, it was 320g unstrung with no OG.

Here they are courtesy of RC :)

Weight: 320 g weight overall
Balance: 32.3 cm
Swing Weight: 322 kgxcm2
I might sound a bit dumb for asking this, but the swing weight that you put there, I have no idea how to read it. I see on tennis warehouse, for an example, that the Pure Drive Roddick GT has a swing weight of what they simply put just 334 grams. Now is the 322 kgxcm2 basically just say that its 322 grams swingweight or does it say something else? And also, if you added the strings, would the swing weight be added too proportionately like as in a unstrung weight of a racquet increases by 20 when adding a string so would the swing weight of that racquet would increase by 20 as well? Also, would the balance have any difference as well?

Jonny S&V
03-23-2010, 08:02 PM
I actually meant why is he isn't sponsored by Tournagrip. I saw one of their commercials and he's not even shown as a player using it- like the Bryan Bros., Sampras, and Blake to name a few.

This is just a hunch, but I think the reason he's not featured is because you can't get his tournagrip from the stores and, unlike a paintjob, it's obvious. This might also be the reason he uses black finishing tape and not red, like most all the other tourna users have (same with Sharapova, maybe). Again, just an educated guess, maybe completely wrong, just throwing my (not so) regarded opinion around.

PED
03-24-2010, 03:15 AM
I might sound a bit dumb for asking this, but the swing weight that you put there, I have no idea how to read it. I see on tennis warehouse, for an example, that the Pure Drive Roddick GT has a swing weight of what they simply put just 334 grams. Now is the 322 kgxcm2 basically just say that its 322 grams swingweight or does it say something else? And also, if you added the strings, would the swing weight be added too proportionately like as in a unstrung weight of a racquet increases by 20 when adding a string so would the swing weight of that racquet would increase by 20 as well? Also, would the balance have any difference as well?

The kgxcm2 is the correct full term for SW so the numbers are comparable.

Roddick's unstrung SW is 322, the rule of thumb is to add 30 units to account for string so that takes you up to 352.

The balance would change as well to account for the strings.

Regarding the tourna, maybe he just likes Tourna and is not under contract. I would imagine that it's fairly expensive to sponsor A rod and it might be beyond the marketing budget of Tourna. The Bryan Brothers and Ryan Sweeting that are featured in the ads would likely be much less expensive to sponsor.

RacquetCraft
03-24-2010, 03:30 AM
The kgxcm2 is the correct full term for SW so the numbers are comparable.

Roddick's unstrung SW is 322, the rule of thumb is to add 30 units to account for string so that takes you up to 352.

The balance would change as well to account for the strings.

Regarding the tourna, maybe he just likes Tourna and is not under contract. I would imagine that it's fairly expensive to sponsor A rod and it might be beyond the marketing budget of Tourna. The Bryan Brothers and Ryan Sweeting that are featured in the ads would likely be much less expensive to sponsor.

kgxcm2=Kilograms per Square Centimeter. It's a measurement of force.

cheers,

Racquetcraft

LPShanet
03-24-2010, 03:10 PM
For the above,
There probably won't be any lead under the grip or in the buttcap, the people who customize Roddicks racquets make custom handles that are to his weight specs in order to attain the right combination of balance, static weight, and swingweight that Roddick prefers.

As was later confirmed to be the case, it would be expected that he actually would have lead, even with a custom handle. Even with customized gear, lead is used to adjust for the differences between frames when they come off the line. If you make custom grips, etc. exactly to weight spec, it leaves no room for adjustment to the frame once assembled, and no two frames come of the line exactly matched. Instead, the equipment is made lighter than spec, and then weight, balance, SW, etc. are adjusted with lead so that all the frames match. (This is also why the pro stock frames discussed on these boards...e.g. Head PT57s...aren't particularly heavy to start with.)

LPShanet
03-24-2010, 03:17 PM
I wonder why Andy isn't sponsored by Tournagrip... obviously he likes it.

As stated by another poster above, he's a bit out of their price range. Also, he has a full kit deal with Babolat, meaning that he, if only in name, endorses Babolat frames, strings, grips, bags, shoes, etc., even if he isn't always using them. That is also why he often uses generic black finishing tape rather than the distinctive red TournaGrip tape.

jemsiter
03-31-2010, 07:54 PM
So I finally got time to measure the specs

Both sticks are 346 grams and 4 points headlight

I will post pics soon

AlpineCadet
03-31-2010, 11:54 PM
Waits for AlpineCadet and suresh
I actually got to hold the racket today. It felt pretty light in my hand even though it was 346 on the RD gram scale. The OP also took pictures of the frame on the balance board/gram scale. Anyway, at least you didn't get the chance to talk nonsense in this thread. :oops:

dgoran
04-01-2010, 05:52 AM
So approx 20 gr of lead after overgrip rubber band and strings

PED
04-01-2010, 05:54 AM
So approx 20 gr of lead after overgrip rubber band and strings

I thought it said 346g on the post above? :)

That would be inline with the 320g unstrung specs.

LPShanet
04-01-2010, 08:32 AM
I thought it said 346g on the post above? :)

That would be inline with the 320g unstrung specs.

Keep in mind that Roddick's actual frame is the old PD+, NOT the PDR+, so the unstrung weight is actually more like 300g.

PED
04-01-2010, 09:36 AM
Keep in mind that Roddick's actual frame is the old PD+, NOT the PDR+, so the unstrung weight is actually more like 300g.

Agreed, but I was going off the weighs posted on here by racquetcraft:

Roddicks unstrung specs
Weight: 320 g weight overall
Balance: 32.3 cm
Swing Weight: 322 kgxcm2

ninjatennis
04-01-2010, 11:43 AM
So I finally got time to measure the specs

Both sticks are 346 grams and 4 points headlight

I will post pics soon

thanks jemsiter!

ChevyTennis
04-01-2010, 11:48 AM
So I finally got time to measure the specs

Both sticks are 346 grams and 4 points headlight

I will post pics soon

Thanks for the follow up. What do you plan to do with them? Any interest in selling one :?

AlpineCadet
04-01-2010, 11:54 AM
Thanks for the follow up. What do you plan to do with them? Any interest in selling one :?
I asked about the price, but he said he couldn't tell us!

dgoran
04-01-2010, 01:43 PM
I thought it said 346g on the post above? :)

That would be inline with the 320g unstrung specs.

Thats what I was saying you maybe misunderstood me:

300g stock
+
~6-7g approx. overgrip
~20g approx.String
~20g lead give or take to correct for babolats qc
346 roughly

jemsiter
04-01-2010, 02:37 PM
Weight: 346 grams
Balance: 4 points headlight

Both sticks are perfectly matched

Pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/IMG_1230.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/IMG_1231.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/IMG_1232.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/IMG_1233.jpg

jemsiter
04-01-2010, 02:42 PM
The following are some pics of the Roddick frame and a retail pure drive roddick plus GT
There are some differences on the paint if you look closely
There is no specs printed on Roddicks, and the head guard is different
Roddick on the left, retail on the right


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05838.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05839.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05840.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05841.jpg

AlpineCadet
04-01-2010, 02:43 PM
Did you adjust the balance board to compensate for the frame being longer than standard? I forgot to mention that while you were measuring the sticks.

Bud
04-01-2010, 02:44 PM
So I finally got time to measure the specs

Both sticks are 346 grams and 4 points headlight

I will post pics soon

Are they 27.5" long?

jemsiter
04-01-2010, 02:45 PM
more pics...
paintjob at 12 is slightly different


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05842.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05843.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05844.jpg

jemsiter
04-01-2010, 02:47 PM
I've modified the retail pure drive roddick plus GT to match the specs of the Roddick frames. I'll see how it plays this weekend

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05857.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05858.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05859.jpg

decades
04-01-2010, 02:47 PM
This is just a hunch, but I think the reason he's not featured is because you can't get his tournagrip from the stores and, unlike a paintjob, it's obvious. This might also be the reason he uses black finishing tape and not red, like most all the other tourna users have (same with Sharapova, maybe). Again, just an educated guess, maybe completely wrong, just throwing my (not so) regarded opinion around.

I would guess Unique can't afford Roddick...how about this...maybe Arod is doing the BB a favor. Maybe BB get a royalty based on number of grips sold. I try to figure out why certain guys do certain things. I mean Roddick has huge deals already and maybe he is just doing a favor here. Blake is sponsored by tg too right?

jemsiter
04-01-2010, 02:51 PM
Thanks for the follow up. What do you plan to do with them? Any interest in selling one :?

I plan to keep them. I might considering selling one if someone offer me a good price

Bud
04-01-2010, 02:52 PM
Did you adjust the balance board to compensate for the frame being longer than standard? I forgot to mention that while you were measuring the sticks.

Good question... If the OP didn't adjust the board...

This would make them about 6 pts. HL rather than 4 pts.

Bud
04-01-2010, 02:54 PM
I plan to keep them. I might considering selling one if someone offer me a good price

How did you come to own them?

jemsiter
04-01-2010, 02:57 PM
I did not adjust the board. I asked the guy at racket doctor to measure the retail pure drive roddick plus for me before I measured the Roddick frames. Not sure if he adjusted it...
I might have to go back later and measure them again.

MTennisMan
04-01-2010, 04:11 PM
I've modified the retail pure drive roddick plus GT to match the specs of the Roddick frames. I'll see how it plays this weekend

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05857.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05858.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05859.jpg

jemister, could you please say around how much lead and where you put it to much the Roddick spec. Thanks

jemsiter
04-01-2010, 05:13 PM
Retail Pure Drive Roddick Plus GT (picked from a few to get the lightest one)
Strung with PHT 17 main and NXT cross @ 60 lbs.
Tourna II grip and rubber band.
One layer of 1/4 inch lead tape at 3 and 9 on each side (total of 4)
It is not exact but very close to Roddick's specs. Weight about the same (within a few grams) and same balance.

MTennisMan
04-01-2010, 05:52 PM
Retail Pure Drive Roddick Plus GT (picked from a few to get the lightest one)
Strung with PHT 17 main and NXT cross @ 60 lbs.
Tourna II grip and rubber band.
One layer of 1/4 inch lead tape at 3 and 9 on each side (total of 4)
It is not exact but very close to Roddick's specs. Weight about the same (within a few grams) and same balance.

thanks and did you have to add any to the handle?

jemsiter
04-01-2010, 06:14 PM
no I did not add any lead to the handle

YenNguyen
04-01-2010, 08:50 PM
Thanks for the specs!
But also, do you know the swing weight of the racquet?

LPShanet
04-01-2010, 10:00 PM
Agreed, but I was going off the weighs posted on here by racquetcraft:

Roddicks unstrung specs
Weight: 320 g weight overall
Balance: 32.3 cm
Swing Weight: 322 kgxcm2

Ahhh, so. My misunderstanding. I thought your were referring to the stock weights. I can't speak for RacquetCraft without talking to him first, but I assume that the unstrung spec he posted was post-customization, as he would have been referring to a ready to use frame. Those numbers make complete sense in that context, so it sounds like we're all saying the same thing. A base PD+ with about 20g of lead added would weight in at 320g or so naked. Add the strings, overgrip, rubber band, etc. and 346 sounds just about right.

philosoraptor
04-02-2010, 07:43 AM
is it just me or is the pjed pd looking lighter blue at the throat than the retail version?

CycloneSh0t
04-02-2010, 09:38 AM
Let us know how the rackets feel differs after hitting with them, i want to noe the difference in the how stiff it feels with or without the cortex

ChevyTennis
04-02-2010, 10:29 AM
Let us know how the rackets feel differs after hitting with them, i want to noe the difference in the how stiff it feels with or without the cortex

You could also just find a Pure Drive team + racquet on the auction site and throw some lead on it and you've have the excact same racquet Roddick uses.

TennisKid1
04-02-2010, 11:59 AM
it just seems like they have 1/2 length lead tape and how long is a strip of the 1/4?

jemsiter
04-02-2010, 12:10 PM
is it just me or is the pjed pd looking lighter blue at the throat than the retail version?

yes the roddick frames are lighter blue than the retail

jemsiter
04-02-2010, 10:58 PM
Turns out the balance board was not adjusted last time I measured the sticks. so...
Correction for Roddick's specs:

346 grams
6 points headlight

One more thing... the retail stick I got is 344 grams and 7 points headlight after the lead tapes, overgrip, and rubber band. The rubber band I use is slightly shorter than Roddick's. So that might be the difference? I am thinking I should add 2 grams of lead to the head and that should nail the specs. But I think anyone could get a retail stick, add the lead tapes, overgrip, rubber band, and that should be close enough.

AlpineCadet
04-02-2010, 11:14 PM
You have to hit with both frames strung with identical strings to get the most out of play-testing them.

Ross K
04-02-2010, 11:38 PM
Would love to hear more re the feel of Andy's frame/s...

Is he another pro who actually has a far lower stiffness RA and softer feel (like Djoker and Del Po are rumoured to have) than ppl would imagine?

Cheers,

R.

bdawg07
04-03-2010, 05:55 AM
Why is everyone so interested in matching Roddick's specs for the GT+? It is common knowledge that Andy does not use this stick, but an earlier PD (I belive the one with the swirly PJ).

In other words, a retail GT+ matched to these specs will NOT play anything like Andy's actual stick...

jemsiter
04-03-2010, 07:33 AM
You have to hit with both frames strung with identical strings to get the most out of play-testing them.

I do not plan to hit with those frames. I want to keep them the way they are. The last person to hit with them was Andy

jemsiter
04-03-2010, 07:38 AM
Why is everyone so interested in matching Roddick's specs for the GT+? It is common knowledge that Andy does not use this stick, but an earlier PD (I belive the one with the swirly PJ).

In other words, a retail GT+ matched to these specs will NOT play anything like Andy's actual stick...

To me, weight and balance makes more different than other factors. The retail matched to the specs will not play identical to Andy's sticks, but close enough for most of us.

Andy's stick is very stiff. When I hit it against my hand it feels stiff. Also it has slightly more vibration than the retail. The cortex dampens it a little

ninjatennis
04-03-2010, 08:31 AM
Turns out the balance board was not adjusted last time I measured the sticks. so...
Correction for Roddick's specs:

346 grams
6 points headlight

One more thing... the retail stick I got is 344 grams and 7 points headlight after the lead tapes, overgrip, and rubber band. The rubber band I use is slightly shorter than Roddick's. So that might be the difference? I am thinking I should add 2 grams of lead to the head and that should nail the specs. But I think anyone could get a retail stick, add the lead tapes, overgrip, rubber band, and that should be close enough.

thanks for this jemsiter. nice to know the balance for his stick. i was reading through the rafa and fed threads and i dont think we ever found out the balance of those sticks...

jemsiter
04-03-2010, 11:15 AM
thanks for this jemsiter. nice to know the balance for his stick. i was reading through the rafa and fed threads and i dont think we ever found out the balance of those sticks...

You're welcome. Glad I can contribute to the board. Let me know what other questions you guys have (except to play with the roddick frames)

dgoran
04-03-2010, 11:33 AM
From what I gathered over the years is that Roddick plays with Swirly Pure drive team + which is stiffer and had 1 mm thicker beam at the throat area. I believe that Pure Drive Roddick was derived from that same swirly mold and they added cortex to that mold weighted it up a bit and called it a roddick.

I have old Pure Drive team + and Pure Drive team + swirly and they do not play the same swirly is indeed stiffer.

Certain things do not add up though:
6 pts head light (strung) is what stock balance of Swirly team + and Pure Drive team + is .

If one would add ONLY 5 inch tape at 3 and 9 that would amount to only 5 gr in the hoop area (+rubber band) which would counter balance the overgrip (6-7 gr) thus the balance would roughly remain 6pts head light.

I did this to mine and the weight becomes only roughly 330gr 6pts head light. Where is 16 more grams of weight than?

In my opinion it is hiding in custom handle and 12 o clock equally distributed otherwise it would be impossible to reach 6pts head light

bdawg07
04-03-2010, 12:05 PM
To me, weight and balance makes more different than other factors. The retail matched to the specs will not play identical to Andy's sticks, but close enough for most of us.

Andy's stick is very stiff. When I hit it against my hand it feels stiff. Also it has slightly more vibration than the retail. The cortex dampens it a little

I believe that the "Cortex" on Andy's sticks is simply a paint job. There is no actual cortex to my knowledge.

Ross K
04-03-2010, 01:08 PM
From what I gathered over the years is that Roddick plays with Swirly Pure drive team + which is stiffer and had 1 mm thicker beam at the throat area. I believe that Pure Drive Roddick was derived from that same swirly mold and they added cortex to that mold weighted it up a bit and called it a roddick.

I have old Pure Drive team + and Pure Drive team + swirly and they do not play the same swirly is indeed stiffer.

Certain things do not add up though:
6 pts head light (strung) is what stock balance of Swirly team + and Pure Drive team + is .

If one would add ONLY 5 inch tape at 3 and 9 that would amount to only 5 gr in the hoop area (+rubber band) which would counter balance the overgrip (6-7 gr) thus the balance would roughly remain 6pts head light.

I did this to mine and the weight becomes only roughly 330gr 6pts head light. Where is 16 more grams of weight than?

In my opinion it is hiding in custom handle and 12 o clock equally distributed otherwise it would be impossible to reach 6pts head light

Interesting... think I agree with what you deduce dgoran, specially re custom handle... lead @ 12 sounds right too.

R.

LPShanet
04-03-2010, 02:18 PM
I believe that the "Cortex" on Andy's sticks is simply a paint job. There is no actual cortex to my knowledge.

That is correct.

TennisNinja
04-03-2010, 04:47 PM
Nice pics!!!

jemsiter
04-03-2010, 09:25 PM
Roddick's frames have custom handles (and lead tapes under the custom mold). I am not sure but I believe there could be some lead under the head guard.

The retail pure drive Roddick plus GT is heavier than the old pure drive plus... and interestingly after I add those lead tapes at 3 and 9, rubber band, and overgrip, it comes out to be very very close to Roddick's specs

ronalditop
04-03-2010, 10:00 PM
Could you check if his tournagrip is wrapped starting from the thick end? It seems like it because his handle looks pretty symmetrical, and when you wrap overgrips starting from the thin end, usually both sides look different.

ChevyTennis
04-04-2010, 10:21 AM
Roddick's frames have custom handles (and lead tapes under the custom mold). I am not sure but I believe there could be some lead under the head guard.

The retail pure drive Roddick plus GT is heavier than the old pure drive plus... and interestingly after I add those lead tapes at 3 and 9, rubber band, and overgrip, it comes out to be very very close to Roddick's specs

It would be surprising if there wasn't lead up there- Just about all pros have lead under there.

MethodTennis
04-04-2010, 01:19 PM
we need to take one of these rackets to pieces to truely know. stick it ona rdc weigh everything that is taken off

bdog
04-04-2010, 07:10 PM
Roddick's frames have custom handles (and lead tapes under the custom mold). I am not sure but I believe there could be some lead under the head guard.

The retail pure drive Roddick plus GT is heavier than the old pure drive plus... and interestingly after I add those lead tapes at 3 and 9, rubber band, and overgrip, it comes out to be very very close to Roddick's specs

Thanks again jemsiter, very appreciated.

So recap, take a Pure Drive plus (which is 300 grams), add 15 grams to the handle.....then it looks like about 4 strips of lead to the head which is about 5 grams, making it 320 grams? Add string which is about 15 grams, grip and rubber band are about 11 grams and you have 346 grams?

And if you start with a GT Roddick plus (which is 315 grams to start), add 5 grams to the head making it 320 grams? Then add string, grip and band making it 346 grams?

....This all sound about right? Just checking my math....

MTennisMan
04-04-2010, 07:19 PM
Thanks again jemsiter, very appreciated.

So recap, take a Pure Drive plus (which is 300 grams), add 15 grams to the handle.....then it looks like about 4 strips of lead to the head which is about 5 grams, making it 320 grams? Add string which is about 15 grams, grip and rubber band are about 11 grams and you have 346 grams?

And if you start with a GT Roddick plus (which is 315 grams to start), add 5 grams to the head making it 320 grams? Then add string, grip and band making it 346 grams?

....This all sound about right? Just checking my math....

bdog, did you forget to add lead to 3 and 9? wait, now i'm confused

jemsiter
04-04-2010, 10:03 PM
Thanks again jemsiter, very appreciated.

So recap, take a Pure Drive plus (which is 300 grams), add 15 grams to the handle.....then it looks like about 4 strips of lead to the head which is about 5 grams, making it 320 grams? Add string which is about 15 grams, grip and rubber band are about 11 grams and you have 346 grams?

And if you start with a GT Roddick plus (which is 315 grams to start), add 5 grams to the head making it 320 grams? Then add string, grip and band making it 346 grams?

....This all sound about right? Just checking my math....

basically you are right... but don't forget to keep the balance at 6 points headlight

dgoran
04-05-2010, 05:00 AM
Pretty close but to be really picky in my experience strings are closer to 20gr if you use poly (18gr for 17 gauge for example)

rubber band is just 1gr and XL overgrip is 7gr but your end result will be the same as you said just you have too many grams to the overgrip and rubber and too little to the stringbed BUT if you string multi those will be lighter so 15 gr is possible

MTennisMan
04-05-2010, 06:42 AM
wait guys, what about 3 and 9

jemsiter
04-05-2010, 02:59 PM
wait guys, what about 3 and 9

it was already accounted for

bdog
04-05-2010, 03:39 PM
basically you are right... but don't forget to keep the balance at 6 points headlight

Thanks again for your responses. How would you keep it at 6pts headlight?

bdog
04-05-2010, 03:44 PM
Pretty close but to be really picky in my experience strings are closer to 20gr if you use poly (18gr for 17 gauge for example)

rubber band is just 1gr and XL overgrip is 7gr but your end result will be the same as you said just you have too many grams to the overgrip and rubber and too little to the stringbed BUT if you string multi those will be lighter so 15 gr is possible

You are right. Don't know why I said 15 grams for strings. It is between 18 to 20 grams. Which would make the band and grip about 7 to 8 grams. Don't mind you being picky at all. I never considered that a rubber band and grip add 8 grams. Never figured that in. Do you find multis to figure lower as you said?

And thanks for checking my math....

LPShanet
04-05-2010, 05:36 PM
Could you check if his tournagrip is wrapped starting from the thick end? It seems like it because his handle looks pretty symmetrical, and when you wrap overgrips starting from the thin end, usually both sides look different.

Tournagrip doesn't have a thick and thin end. It comes with a square cut at both ends, rather than being tapered at either end. If you want tapers, you have to cut them yourself.

ronalditop
04-05-2010, 06:32 PM
Tournagrip doesn't have a thick and thin end. It comes with a square cut at both ends, rather than being tapered at either end. If you want tapers, you have to cut them yourself.

Oh I didnt know that. Thanks.

Six.One.Tour.90FAN
04-07-2010, 07:26 AM
Just want to say thanks for showing us the sticks!
Great pics btw....

jemsiter
04-07-2010, 07:39 AM
Just want to say thanks for showing us the sticks!
Great pics btw....

You're welcome

jemsiter
04-07-2010, 07:10 PM
I have a question about my retail roddick gt plus
I noticed it says recommended tension is 55/62 lbs while tw lists 55/66 lbs.....?

Murray_Fan
04-08-2010, 12:07 PM
what do they mean Andy Roddick's 536th and 547th racquet?

Thanks

DPhaneuf3
04-08-2010, 02:21 PM
wow great find! high quality pics too. nice!

jemsiter
04-08-2010, 06:53 PM
what do they mean Andy Roddick's 536th and 547th racquet?

Thanks

Andy goes through a lot of racquets each year

Nextman916
04-08-2010, 10:33 PM
Wow this is great info, thanks for posting! JW roughly, what does this put his swingweight at?

dgoran
04-09-2010, 04:42 AM
hey jemsiter could you please post end of the grommet channel of andy's sticks if its not too much trouble.

Here's the example of what I had in mind:
http://i43.tinypic.com/161m9gg.jpg

jemsiter
04-09-2010, 09:28 AM
I have a question about my retail roddick gt plus
I noticed it says recommended tension is 55/62 lbs while tw lists 55/66 lbs.....?

anyone knows?

SFrazeur
04-09-2010, 09:57 AM
anyone knows?

The 62 max is to maximize the effects of the woofer grommets. The frame will still be under warranty when strung as high as 66.

-SF

jemsiter
04-09-2010, 11:57 AM
The 62 max is to maximize the effects of the woofer grommets. The frame will still be under warranty when strung as high as 66.

-SF

Thanks...
so 55/66 is never printed on retail racquets... all are printed "55/62" is that right?

Hi I'm Ray
04-11-2010, 06:46 AM
wow, I love how they painted on a fake cortex =D thanks for sharing!

jemsiter
04-11-2010, 10:46 AM
The Roddick racquet plays softer than the retail one.
It has much better ball pocketing and much more comfortable.
Overall a retail racquet match to Roddick's specs would play similar to Roddick's racquet except the feel. I know why pros don't change racquets because no matter how you match the specs, you can't match the feel of a racquet.

gino
04-11-2010, 10:53 AM
rackets look great! thanks for posting

Murray_Fan
04-11-2010, 10:57 AM
Great Get!

Ross K
04-11-2010, 12:23 PM
The Roddick racquet plays softer than the retail one.
It has much better ball pocketing and much more comfortable.
Overall a retail racquet match to Roddick's specs would play similar to Roddick's racquet except the feel. I know why pros don't change racquets because no matter how you match the specs, you can't match the feel of a racquet.

A-ha! Just as I suspected!... another pro who's own frame is much more soft and flexy than many would ever guess or believe... hmm, interesting :wink: .

R.

PTFC
04-11-2010, 12:47 PM
Seems many pros prefer a higher flex than the retail sticks... Curious.

Ross K
04-11-2010, 12:53 PM
Seems many pros prefer a higher flex than the retail sticks... Curious.

No, lower...

0d1n
04-11-2010, 01:18 PM
The Roddick racquet plays softer than the retail one.
It has much better ball pocketing and much more comfortable.
Overall a retail racquet match to Roddick's specs would play similar to Roddick's racquet except the feel. I know why pros don't change racquets because no matter how you match the specs, you can't match the feel of a racquet.

I thought you said you were not going to hit with his rackets.
Do you refer the "real" sticks or the "customized to his spec" stick in this post ??

Mdubb23
04-11-2010, 02:22 PM
The Roddick racquet plays softer than the retail one.
It has much better ball pocketing and much more comfortable.
Overall a retail racquet match to Roddick's specs would play similar to Roddick's racquet except the feel. I know why pros don't change racquets because no matter how you match the specs, you can't match the feel of a racquet.

I completely disagree. Yes, my few are much more comfortable, but, no, in my opinion, they play much, much stiffer than the retail. And as for the ball pocketing, in my opinion, that's attributed to more the strings than the frame.

akybo
04-29-2010, 01:44 AM
A-ha! Just as I suspected!... another pro who's own frame is much more soft and flexy than many would ever guess or believe... hmm, interesting :wink: .

R.
Add lead tape to any racquet and it will feel softer and flexier than before.

sosa09
05-29-2010, 03:47 PM
I've modified the retail pure drive roddick plus GT to match the specs of the Roddick frames. I'll see how it plays this weekend

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05857.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05858.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05859.jpg

there are 2 rackets with the same over grip and 1 with other grip . the 2 rackets that have the same overgrip is tourna tac or xl ? and the only one is the original tourna grip?

Mdubb23
05-29-2010, 04:17 PM
^^Roddick uses Tournagrip XXL.

sosa09
05-29-2010, 05:51 PM
^^Roddick uses Tournagrip XXL.

for me is XXXXXXXL haha

jemsiter
05-31-2010, 12:27 AM
there are 2 rackets with the same over grip and 1 with other grip . the 2 rackets that have the same overgrip is tourna tac or xl ? and the only one is the original tourna grip?

Roddick uses extra wide (not extra long) original tourna grip. The retail one has tourna II tac which I prefer

Mdubb23
05-31-2010, 03:49 AM
Roddick uses extra wide (not extra long) original tourna grip. The retail one has tourna II tac which I prefer

Not true. Roddick, as do Querry and Isner, uses Tournagrip XXL. It's both wider and longer than the original Tournagrip.

jemsiter
05-31-2010, 11:03 AM
Not true. Roddick, as do Querry and Isner, uses Tournagrip XXL. It's both wider and longer than the original Tournagrip.

Not true. Roddick's overgrip is the same length as an original tourna grip (not extra long). Please see attached pic. Next time please be 100% sure before you post something.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/IMG_1459.jpg

TennisKid1
05-31-2010, 11:08 AM
you took off one of his overgrips? what replacement grip does he use?

Mdubb23
05-31-2010, 11:18 AM
you took off one of his overgrips? what replacement grip does he use?

He uses Babolat Syntec Black--same as retail. He has a custom-molded grip between 4 3/8 and 4 1/2, and he uses a 4 1/2 buttcap.

LPShanet
05-31-2010, 01:17 PM
Not true. Roddick's overgrip is the same length as an original tourna grip (not extra long). Please see attached pic. Next time please be 100% sure before you post something.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/IMG_1459.jpg

Actually, if we're being totally specific/accurate, the XL is the same length as the regular (99cm), but wider (29 versus 25 mm)...however, the XXL is both even wider (35mm) and SLIGHTLY longer (100 cm) than either of the other two. (Obviously, this is according to official specs, and each piece varies a tiny bit.)

BradThomas2121
05-31-2010, 05:00 PM
Not true. Roddick's overgrip is the same length as an original tourna grip (not extra long). Please see attached pic. Next time please be 100% sure before you post something.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/IMG_1459.jpg

I'm just curious but is the blx six one in the background another pro's racquet.

jemsiter
05-31-2010, 06:09 PM
I'm just curious but is the blx six one in the background another pro's racquet.

no. I wish it was Federer's BLX90 :(

sosa09
05-31-2010, 06:52 PM
the overgrip of murray is the same as roddick tourna grip , or murray tourna is smaller?

ktownva
06-01-2010, 08:29 AM
Not sure if this has been asked, but does anyone know how Roddick's paintjob rackets are produced? Does Babolat take old swirly PD's, sand off the paint, and paint over them? Or do they manufacture new rackets based on swirly specs and paint them to look like GT's? If it is the former then they must have a stockpile of old swirly PD's laying around.

pyrokid
06-01-2010, 04:53 PM
Not sure if this has been asked, but does anyone know how Roddick's paintjob rackets are produced? Does Babolat take old swirly PD's, sand off the paint, and paint over them? Or do they manufacture new rackets based on swirly specs and paint them to look like GT's? If it is the former then they must have a stockpile of old swirly PD's laying around.

they probably use the swirly mold and a different layup, and then paint it like the GT, but I could be wrong.

jemsiter
07-24-2010, 10:50 AM
I've also heard they use a swirly mold. I will try and see if I can find out

Rockitdog
07-24-2010, 11:39 AM
Actually, if we're being totally specific/accurate, the XL is the same length as the regular (99cm), but wider (29 versus 25 mm)...however, the XXL is both even wider (35mm) and SLIGHTLY longer (100 cm) than either of the other two. (Obviously, this is according to official specs, and each piece varies a tiny bit.)

I just ordered 3 packs of the XXL Tournagrip - finally it will make it all the way to the top of my racquet!!!

jemsiter
07-24-2010, 05:36 PM
I just ordered 3 packs of the XXL Tournagrip - finally it will make it all the way to the top of my racquet!!!

please post pics when you got them. I wanna know if they are the same as the Roddick Tourna that I got

Rockitdog
07-27-2010, 10:08 AM
please post pics when you got them. I wanna know if they are the same as the Roddick Tourna that I got

I'll post a pic tonight. I received them and have them on my PDRs - they are sweet!!!

jibinhe
07-28-2010, 02:14 AM
Turns out the balance board was not adjusted last time I measured the sticks. so...
Correction for Roddick's specs:

346 grams
6 points headlight

One more thing... the retail stick I got is 344 grams and 7 points headlight after the lead tapes, overgrip, and rubber band. The rubber band I use is slightly shorter than Roddick's. So that might be the difference? I am thinking I should add 2 grams of lead to the head and that should nail the specs. But I think anyone could get a retail stick, add the lead tapes, overgrip, rubber band, and that should be close enough.

I cannot believe what I just saw, my PDRGT has some weight and balance. I guess I just lucky. Thanks. man

Rockitdog
07-28-2010, 05:24 AM
I took pics last night and fell asleep watching TV and forgot to post them. The TG XXL is the same length as the TG XL- the XXL is just wider so I'm guessing Roddick just uses the XXL- not a custom length or width. My pic comparing the two looks the same as comparision pic taken by the OP.

Rockitdog
07-29-2010, 08:04 PM
Here ya go: TG XL vs XXL

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/ameliasmom06/IMG_3252.jpg

jemsiter
07-30-2010, 08:54 AM
Here ya go: TG XL vs XXL

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/ameliasmom06/IMG_3252.jpg

very similar... but I believe Roddick's are even wider...

Rockitdog
07-30-2010, 11:44 AM
Alright, I'll give an actual measurement when I get home and report back- you do the same.

jemsiter
07-30-2010, 10:55 PM
Alright, I'll give an actual measurement when I get home and report back- you do the same.

will do

10 char

jemsiter
10-21-2010, 09:54 AM
just thinking that people might still interested in knowing more about Roddick's paintjob?

gflyer
10-21-2010, 11:37 AM
I know that the thread is old, but I saw it only now.
i just wanted to thank jemsiter for sharing all of those info.
Very very interesting indeed.

Federer_For_President
12-20-2010, 12:01 AM
just thinking that people might still interested in knowing more about Roddick's paintjob?

YESS!!! Yes please, could we know what racquet Roddick's actually using? Oh and thanks for all the good info.

Federer_For_President
12-20-2010, 02:43 AM
no. I wish it was Federer's BLX90 :(

Have you put pro overgrips and champions choice on it to make it like Feds? Please reply :D

Federer_For_President
12-20-2010, 02:47 AM
just thinking that people might still interested in knowing more about Roddick's paintjob?

Sorry for posting a third, but I love this thread!!! :)
But when you said the weight was just a little bit off, do you mind me asking by how much the weight was away from Roddick's actual racquet?

kevoT
12-20-2010, 03:36 AM
YESS!!! Yes please, could we know what racquet Roddick's actually using? Oh and thanks for all the good info.

A-rod is using the original Pure Drive (lead a bit in the hoop with some silicone in the handle)

Federer_For_President
12-20-2010, 03:58 AM
A-rod is using the original Pure Drive (lead a bit in the hoop with some silicone in the handle)

I knew that but I wanted to know from the guy who has the racket :D

MethodTennis
12-20-2010, 04:06 AM
A-rod is using the original Pure Drive (lead a bit in the hoop with some silicone in the handle)

he is not uing the origional pure drive he is using the second gen, the 1st gen didnt have woofer grommets and had the extra bummper gaurd bit

Federer_For_President
12-20-2010, 04:10 AM
he is not uing the origional pure drive he is using the second gen, the 1st gen didnt have woofer grommets and had the extra bummper gaurd bit

Any idea what grip size the racquet on the right is?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05857.jpg

Thanks ;)

MethodTennis
12-20-2010, 04:10 AM
also my thread may bew of interest to you http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=276769

Federer_For_President
12-20-2010, 04:14 AM
also my thread may bew of interest to you http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=276769

Any idea what the grip size is for the racquet on the right

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05857.jpg

Thanks,:D

MethodTennis
12-20-2010, 04:32 AM
Any idea what the grip size is for the racquet on the right

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05857.jpg

Thanks,:D

if its a roddick racket it will be a custom molded grip but i suspected to be close to 4 1/2 or grip size 4

Federer_For_President
12-20-2010, 04:50 AM
if its a roddick racket it will be a custom molded grip but i suspected to be close to 4 1/2 or grip size 4

Thanks :D ..

jemsiter
12-20-2010, 11:02 AM
Any idea what grip size the racquet on the right is?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Ibanezer/DSC05857.jpg

Thanks ;)

Roddick's paintjobs have custom mold handles which feels like in-between 4 3/8 and 4 1/2. The retail PDRGT+ on the right is a 4 3/8 (my grip size)

After the lead tapes, overgrip, strings, and rubber band, the retail weights approximately 3-4 grams more than Roddick's paintjob if I remember right

Federer_For_President
12-20-2010, 11:06 AM
Roddick's paintjobs have custom mold handles which feels like in-between 4 3/8 and 4 1/2. The retail PDRGT+ on the right is a 4 3/8 (my grip size)

After the lead tapes, overgrip, strings, and rubber band, the retail weights approximately 3-4 grams more than Roddick's paintjob if I remember right

What gauge of NXT string?? Thanks for the feedback btw. :D

jemsiter
12-20-2010, 11:25 AM
What gauge of NXT string?? Thanks for the feedback btw. :D

16 gauge NXT on the retail

Federer_For_President
12-20-2010, 11:30 AM
16 gauge NXT on the retail

Can't find any lead tape on my usual tennis website :D
What lead tape did you get??? I can't find lead anywhere for some reason

jemsiter
12-20-2010, 05:35 PM
Can't find any lead tape on my usual tennis website :D
What lead tape did you get??? I can't find lead anywhere for some reason

You can usually get lead tapes in any tennis shop. Tenniswarehouse should have some. If you can't find 1/4", then just get some 1/2" and cut them in half.

SFrazeur
12-20-2010, 08:47 PM
I have to add however that cutting 1/2 length wise is a pain in the *&#%x&!

-SF

jemsiter
12-20-2010, 10:48 PM
I have to add however that cutting 1/2 length wise is a pain in the *&#%x&!

-SF

some tips:

Draw a line with a pen and ruler on the back of the lead tape before cutting them. Also try not to cut a very long stripe at once.

SFrazeur
12-20-2010, 11:01 PM
some tips:

Draw a line with a pen and ruler on the back of the lead tape before cutting them. Also try not to cut a very long stripe at once.


Done that. Still a *****.

-SF

MethodTennis
12-21-2010, 02:50 AM
Roddick's paintjobs have custom mold handles which feels like in-between 4 3/8 and 4 1/2. The retail PDRGT+ on the right is a 4 3/8 (my grip size)

After the lead tapes, overgrip, strings, and rubber band, the retail weights approximately 3-4 grams more than Roddick's paintjob if I remember right

roddicks are slightly bigger than 4 1/2

klementine79
12-21-2010, 03:42 PM
Just finished reading this whole thread..... and there needs to be some clarification....

The OP.. Jemsiter ( great job with posting info--and giving into temptation by actually hitting with the frames :smile: ) states the Roddick frame is noticeably more 'flexier' than the stock PD+.....

...another fellow mentions that it is as stiff ( hints that maybe it is stiffer ) than the retail stick....

Has anyone ever measured the flex of Roddicks' frame?

ferrytran
01-29-2011, 09:21 PM
good find. i will try to modify my pdrgt+ to be similar. i first need to buy a gram scale. lol

CycloneSh0t
08-11-2011, 08:05 PM
no I did not add any lead to the handle

hi there,

sorry if this is a really late question but i was wondering how i would be able to make my pure drive roddick cortex Standard (ie 27 inch) to match the same specs as roddicks plus?

if you didn't add any in the handle how long if the 1/4 inch lead tape did you add at 3 and 9?

Much appreciated!

jemsiter
08-12-2011, 10:07 AM
hi there,

sorry if this is a really late question but i was wondering how i would be able to make my pure drive roddick cortex Standard (ie 27 inch) to match the same specs as roddicks plus?

if you didn't add any in the handle how long if the 1/4 inch lead tape did you add at 3 and 9?

Much appreciated!

I did not measure exactly how long. I just put the lead tapes beside the Roddick stick and cut it exactly the same length as on Roddick's
You can get a pretty good estimate on the length of the lead tapes by looking at the pictures
If you really want to get exact length of the lead tape, I could measure it once I get home in a couple of days

dgoran
08-12-2011, 11:21 AM
Hope this helps...also i think bobfl can also tell you exactly if he still has one
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/bobfl/3-2.jpg

jemsiter
08-12-2011, 11:50 AM
interesting.... looks like there is one small piece of lead tape on top of the longer piece? i think it's to match the weight and/or balance

there wasn't one like this on either one of mine

Mig1NC
08-13-2011, 02:32 AM
Did you get a chance to measure the actual length? We seem to be assuming it is 27.5 based on tribal knowledge.

jemsiter
08-13-2011, 12:27 PM
Did you get a chance to measure the actual length? We seem to be assuming it is 27.5 based on tribal knowledge.

yes. it is the same length as the retail Roddick GT +

5263
11-07-2011, 07:12 AM
yes. it is the same length as the retail Roddick GT +

looked slightly shorter in pics IMO.

vsbabolat
11-07-2011, 07:54 AM
looked slightly shorter in pics IMO.

The guy owns Roddick's actual racquet with the painted cortex and says that it's the longer version. Roddick does use the longer .5 inch version that is the swirly. You can take that to the bank.

Supraguy23
07-12-2012, 08:47 PM
Roddick's frames have custom handles (and lead tapes under the custom mold). I am not sure but I believe there could be some lead under the head guard.

The retail pure drive Roddick plus GT is heavier than the old pure drive plus... and interestingly after I add those lead tapes at 3 and 9, rubber band, and overgrip, it comes out to be very very close to Roddick's specs


I didn't see this whole thread and I know this is from back in 2010 but honestly. Why would anybody try to make a Racquet just like Roddick's anyways?? I mean it's like golf. People get fitted for different clubs, kick points, their swing etc....... just because Tiger can hit a drive long doesn't mean I try to duplicate his driver to do the same. Everybody has a different technique and playing style. I don't think it matters if I take what I think is Roddicks racquet and make it close to what he plays with and play better. That's my opinion and whomever does this is wasting their time lol I was bored and how I got to this thread is beyond me. Hopefully no one takes offense to anything I said. Good luck to everyone and their tennis game.

Bartelby
07-12-2012, 08:51 PM
As an experiment it's fine, if you expect a revelation its delusional. But the companies perpetuate the marketing illusion that you are buying the product that your favourite player uses, so they're doing no one a favour except themselves.