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Power Player
03-20-2010, 07:43 AM
I highly recommend next time you get a hybrid string job to use Stamina as your cross. It is incredible string for the price. I never get more power, control and feedback then I do when I put this in. There is a little string movement, but not bad. Your spin will be incredible and the racquet will sound like a hand cannon. Insanely loud.

This is the poor man's Lux/Gut substitute:

Cyberflash 17 mains x Wilson Stamina 16. Cost is under$6

Setup I use for comfort and more spin :

Big Ace Micro mains x Wilson Stamina 16.

This is a great setup if you like to string in the 60s. The BAM is like a synthetic, so you will see some movement, but it is nothing major. Your arm will feel like gold and you will be crushing shots. I literally hit heavier shots due to the amount of power and spin I can put on the ball, while keeping it at a lower, flatter trajectory.

Ambivalent
03-20-2010, 12:36 PM
I've used wilson stamina. It does not live up to its name. Breaks very easily. Also, does not stand out in terms of spin/power.

Power Player
03-21-2010, 08:50 AM
It works great for me in a hybrid. Better then any other SGut I have tried.

Greg Raven
03-21-2010, 04:48 PM
I use reels and reels of Stamina, and I have great success with it. My customers like it, it's easy to install, and the price is right. What's not to like?

stanfordtennis alum
03-21-2010, 05:03 PM
It's underrated because there are much better syn guts out there for the price and performance

blackfrido
03-21-2010, 05:23 PM
It works great for me in a hybrid. Better then any other SGut I have tried.

what tension you use with wilson stamina?
btw, did we play once couple of years ago at Monastery in Miami? is that you?

Steve Huff
03-21-2010, 09:15 PM
Greg, glad to see that I'm not the only one who uses a lot of this string. It's my primary syn. gut for use in the crosses of many hybrids. I find it lasts about the same as PSGD, but moves around less. Plus, it seems a lot more durable than Gosen OG Micro.

brownbearfalling
03-22-2010, 12:04 AM
I highly recommend next time you get a hybrid string job to use Stamina as your cross. It is incredible string for the price. I never get more power, control and feedback then I do when I put this in. There is a little string movement, but not bad. Your spin will be incredible and the racquet will sound like a hand cannon. Insanely loud.

This is the poor man's Lux/Gut substitute:

Cyberflash 17 mains x Wilson Stamina 16. Cost is under$6

Setup I use for comfort and more spin :

Big Ace Micro mains x Wilson Stamina 16.

This is a great setup if you like to string in the 60s. The BAM is like a synthetic, so you will see some movement, but it is nothing major. Your arm will feel like gold and you will be crushing shots. I literally hit heavier shots due to the amount of power and spin I can put on the ball, while keeping it at a lower, flatter trajectory.

Have you tried any other syn guts? Before you start recommending it as the best syn gut out there you have to try most of them.

I have strung with stamina and it glides through mains. It is a lot like Tecnifibre syngut (white color). the amber color is different.

Power Player
03-22-2010, 09:59 AM
Yeah I have played SG since I was 8 years old. Mainly PGSD. I tried Gosen as a hybrid when I started back, Gamma, Prince, Tecnifibre, Dunlop. I also have demoed 2 new Wilson prototypes.

When people say there are much better guts out there for price, I'd like to know what they are. Because I will try others, but every time I do it, I miss the Stamina in my stick. Also, I do not like the feel of multis or SGs like the Gamma..I like the feel of the Stamina. What else compares to it?

I can basically echo what Steve Huff posted because I find the exact same results. Is there movement with the BAM? Yes, there is a little movement. But my spin production and consistency is still dramatically better for my swing. I know the Gosen OG micro is loved here, but it breaks faster for me.

scotus
03-22-2010, 10:09 AM
Wilson Stamina is one of the worst strings I have ever used.

But perhaps my stringer completely prestretched the life out of the string.

Valjean
03-22-2010, 11:14 AM
Yeah I have played SG since I was 8 years old. Mainly PGSD. I tried Gosen as a hybrid when I started back, Gamma, Prince, Tecnifibre, Dunlop. I also have demoed 2 new Wilson prototypes.

When people say there are much better guts out there for price, I'd like to know what they are. Because I will try others, but every time I do it, I miss the Stamina in my stick. Also, I do not like the feel of multis or SGs like the Gamma..I like the feel of the Stamina. What else compares to it?

I can basically echo what Steve Huff posted because I find the exact same results. Is there movement with the BAM? Yes, there is a little movement. But my spin production and consistency is still dramatically better for my swing. I know the Gosen OG micro is loved here, but it breaks faster for me.
What else compares to it? Well, there is Gamma Synthetic Gut with Wearguard, which Stamina was designed to outstrip, and did.

JT_2eighty
03-22-2010, 11:38 AM
Some like it, some hate it... sounds like a lot of strings. Different sticks, hybrids, etc. No need to be bashing one another about syn gut, ok?

I have a half set lying around I may try, from the half unused hybrid of the Wilson hyperlast 19g mains I use with gut. Curious how that may compare for durability/playability, I wish I could just buy the hyperlast half sets only (nice 'aramid' main btw), and was holding the stam for a friend who uses syn, but perhaps I'll give it a chance next time although compared to real gut cross... hey I'm open to anything.

Power Player
03-22-2010, 02:07 PM
What else compares to it? Well, there is Gamma Synthetic Gut with Wearguard, which Stamina was designed to outstrip, and did.

I used it and they both felt entirely different. Oh well, I guess I like what I like, and that's fine with me.

Power Player
03-22-2010, 02:08 PM
what tension you use with wilson stamina?
btw, did we play once couple of years ago at Monastery in Miami? is that you?

62#s.

No I don't think thats me..lol.

JackB1
03-29-2010, 06:26 AM
Another great syngut is Prince Synthetic Gut Multifilament.

meowmix
03-29-2010, 08:15 AM
I wasn't too huge a fan of the stuff. I didn't think that it excelled over the other syn guts I've tried, nor do I think that it was inferior. The best synthetic gut I've played with to date is Dunlop's. But the tension drop on that thing was incredibly high...

Power Player
03-29-2010, 10:58 AM
I wasn't too huge a fan of the stuff. I didn't think that it excelled over the other syn guts I've tried, nor do I think that it was inferior. The best synthetic gut I've played with to date is Dunlop's. But the tension drop on that thing was incredibly high...

I have the dunlop. A reel of it actually. It is just white synthetic gut and I have yet to try it. Since I have a reel of that and the explosiv, I figured that could be my back up hybrid. I am interested in seeing how it compares.

The Stamina (for me), is far better in a hybrid then any other synthetic I have tried out. Maybe the Dunlop will deliver too..that would be real nice.

JackB1
03-29-2010, 11:26 AM
What's interesting is that Wilson calls this string now a "polyvalent" (whatever that means), which is the same thing they call their new "Hollow Core" string, so I guess Hollow Core is the new Stamina?

Wilson rates power & control a "10" for the Hollow Core and a "6" for Stamina. The other categories are comparable.
I guess Hollow core is a syngut and not a multi.

mikeler
03-29-2010, 11:50 AM
I used it and they both felt entirely different. Oh well, I guess I like what I like, and that's fine with me.


You also used the regular Gamma synthetic gut in that racket I gave to you.

meowmix
03-29-2010, 12:02 PM
I have the dunlop. A reel of it actually. It is just white synthetic gut and I have yet to try it. Since I have a reel of that and the explosiv, I figured that could be my back up hybrid. I am interested in seeing how it compares.

The Stamina (for me), is far better in a hybrid then any other synthetic I have tried out. Maybe the Dunlop will deliver too..that would be real nice.

It's been a while since I last used Stamina (2,3 years?) so my mind's a little foggy on it. The Dunlop felt really nice- crisp with a hint of softness, pocketing- much more so than you'd expect from a synthetic gut, and some nice power. Too bad the tension maintenance was absolutely horrible- I cut it out after a week because of the tension drop...

Valjean
03-29-2010, 12:39 PM
Babolat's new one out, N.vy, is good to try now too. Give it some time, though.

Power Player
03-29-2010, 12:43 PM
You also used the regular Gamma synthetic gut in that racket I gave to you.

Yep..my GF likes it, but she prefers Wilson Stamina..haha, JK, she could care less about strings or any of this stuff.

dadozen
03-29-2010, 01:22 PM
I've tried Wilson Stamina on a full job once and hated it. But if you like it, no problems. Nothing better than finding something that suits us.;)

Power Player
03-29-2010, 01:38 PM
Yeah, it may be better suited in a hybrid. I have never full jobbed it because I prefer a hybrid setup.

dadozen
03-29-2010, 01:50 PM
PP, have you tried PLII 1.15? It plays a lot alike BAM. But I preferred PLII because it played a bit crisper and had better tension maintenance. Difference is minimal, but you can notice it.

JackB1
03-29-2010, 02:21 PM
PP, have you tried PLII 1.15? It plays a lot alike BAM. But I preferred PLII because it played a bit crisper and had better tension maintenance. Difference is minimal, but you can notice it.

ProLine II is very well liked on these boards

Power Player
03-29-2010, 02:50 PM
I have a pack of PLII but have not used it yet.

Greg Raven
03-29-2010, 06:38 PM
Greg, glad to see that I'm not the only one who uses a lot of this string. It's my primary syn. gut for use in the crosses of many hybrids. I find it lasts about the same as PSGD, but moves around less. Plus, it seems a lot more durable than Gosen OG Micro.

Haven't compared it to the Gosen OG Micro, but the Wilson Stamina in 16 gauge lasts longer than the Prince Tournament Nylon 15L with my big hitters.

dadozen
03-29-2010, 07:33 PM
I have a pack of PLII but have not used it yet.

PP, you should definitely try it. They are very close performance wise, but you can feel the differences between them.

Greg Raven
03-29-2010, 08:42 PM
Babolat's new one out, N.vy, is good to try now too. Give it some time, though.

Doesn't N.vy seem to lose tension pretty quickly?

brownbearfalling
03-30-2010, 12:39 AM
Yeah I have played SG since I was 8 years old. Mainly PGSD. I tried Gosen as a hybrid when I started back, Gamma, Prince, Tecnifibre, Dunlop. I also have demoed 2 new Wilson prototypes.

When people say there are much better guts out there for price, I'd like to know what they are. Because I will try others, but every time I do it, I miss the Stamina in my stick. Also, I do not like the feel of multis or SGs like the Gamma..I like the feel of the Stamina. What else compares to it?

I can basically echo what Steve Huff posted because I find the exact same results. Is there movement with the BAM? Yes, there is a little movement. But my spin production and consistency is still dramatically better for my swing. I know the Gosen OG micro is loved here, but it breaks faster for me.

sorry I retract my doubt. I am going to be trying stmina in a hybrid.

Power Player
03-30-2010, 05:54 AM
Cool man..give it a shot.Everyone is different, but for me it is an awesome cross string.

Ambivalent
03-30-2010, 09:22 PM
What's interesting is that Wilson calls this string now a "polyvalent" (whatever that means), which is the same thing they call their new "Hollow Core" string, so I guess Hollow Core is the new Stamina?

Wilson rates power & control a "10" for the Hollow Core and a "6" for Stamina. The other categories are comparable.
I guess Hollow core is a syngut and not a multi.

Completely different. Hollow core shreds for me and stamina stays whole until it snaps.

Power Player
03-31-2010, 07:01 AM
Wilson rates power & control a "10" for the Hollow Core and a "6" for Stamina. The other categories are comparable.
I guess Hollow core is a syngut and not a multi.

Yeah, you can't really get anything from those numbers at all. It is almost meaningless because who knows what works for your strokes. I am also pretty sure that Hollowcore is a multi. You should know by now that all these rating numbers can only cloud your judgement and potentially make you think you need something you don't and vice versa. You need to try out as many variations as you can in stringing. don't make ruiles for yourself off of message board posts. That was kind of the point of this thread. I would never have tried Stamina if I had just gone off of people's opinions here.

JackB1
03-31-2010, 07:15 AM
Yeah, you can't really get anything from those numbers at all. It is almost meaningless because who knows what works for your strokes. I am also pretty sure that Hollowcore is a multi. You should know by now that all these rating numbers can only cloud your judgement and potentially make you think you need something you don't and vice versa. You need to try out as many variations as you can in stringing. don't make ruiles for yourself off of message board posts. That was kind of the point of this thread. I would never have tried Stamina if I had just gone off of people's opinions here.

Strings and how they feel to you are such a personal thing, you HAVE to try them out yourself, but with the myriad of choices out there, you need something to narrow them down, like ratings numbers and such. I can't just try EVERY string out there one by one :)

Power Player
03-31-2010, 07:33 AM
You don't really need to try every string of course. You just need to try different setups and tensions. Like I think we can assume you know what a full multi setup feels like by now. So keep that in 1 racquet for now, and then experiment with the other 2. Try high tensions, low tensions..hybrids..You may be suprised at what works for you and what doesn't.

Valjean
03-31-2010, 07:42 AM
Doesn't N.vy seem to lose tension pretty quickly?
Not the best, and far from the worst. Under USRSA testing, it lost roughly the same as Prince's Synthetic Gut With Duraflex and Pro Supex's Maxim Touch.

tennis-lover
04-16-2010, 05:21 PM
I just got a pair of AG100 and one came with stamina strung @ 53lb. At first I thought about cutting it and string with Topspin CF and Gosen OG micro. But then I took it for a swing and started liking it. I definitely like the sound of it. The other one strung with Gosen polylon sp 17 and Gosen OG micro 17 @ 55lb and I don't like it as much as full stamina, feels a little springy. So now I just bought a pack of stamina to experiment with topspin CF.

DaveSmith
01-24-2014, 01:33 AM
I know it's an old thread but I gotta agree. Stamina has some unique characteristics. It doesn't feel like regular synthetic gut (gosen, forten, or wilson synthetic gut extreme, or prince synthetic gut) For me, it has a lot of feel. There is something muli-like about it. I'm not saying it compares to the good multies out there but it just doesn't play like a regular synthetic gut string. It had great spin, too, with poly in crosses.

DaveSmith
01-24-2014, 01:37 AM
Although, I noticed that tension maintenance wasn't great. I would pre-stretch it next time.
Btw does anyone who has tried this string know a string that is similar?

Ramon
01-24-2014, 06:30 AM
I like Gamma Marathon 15L as a cross. It's a bit expensive, but it lasts a long time. It's smooth and lets the mains slide, and it feels as soft as a multi. With these new spin pattern racquets, you need this kind of durability.