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David123
03-24-2010, 08:55 AM
Hey guys i got the x-one biphase and am trying to figure out whether to try it full bed or hybrid it. If hybrid with what string and crosses/mains and at what tensions?

In addition i also got the technifibire redcode, blackcode and NRG2 any reccomanded hybrids with any of those? and mains or crosses and reccomanded tension would be appriciated.

Ps. i hit a heavy forehand 5.0 player.

Ivan Lendl's Backhand
03-24-2010, 11:33 AM
You're a 5.0 and you have no idea what strings to use or at what tension?

ClubHoUno
03-24-2010, 12:50 PM
Hey guys i got the x-one biphase and am trying to figure out whether to try it full bed or hybrid it. If hybrid with what string and crosses/mains and at what tensions?

In addition i also got the technifibire redcode, blackcode and NRG2 any reccomanded hybrids with any of those? and mains or crosses and reccomanded tension would be appriciated.

Ps. i hit a heavy forehand 5.0 player.

Get 2 sets of X-One and 2 sets if NRG2.

X-One and NRG2 are the 2 best Prime Multi strings from Tecnifibre.

Try a full X-One job first at high tension - like 60 lbs.
Then try a full NRG2 job at same tension level.

Then see how you like them.
The multi you prefer will be the one you can experiment with in hybrids.

If it's too powerful, then consider a hybrid with a smooth poly in the crosses (Red Code). If you use a textured poly in the crosses (BlackCode), it will drastically affect the durability of the X-One/NRG2 in a negative way and 90% of the spin comes from the mains anyway, so when you hybrid a poly in the crosses, go for a smooth poly.

If the hybrid with X-One/NRG2 mains and RedCode crosses works great, then play with the tension until you find your preferred tension level. Always tension the softer X-One/NRG2 3-5 lbs higher than the stiffer poly to get a constant stringbed stiffness.

If you feel you still get too much power from the hybrid with X-One/NRG2 mains and RedCode crosses, try a hybrid with BlackCode mains and X-One/NRG2 in the crosses. Tension the X-One/NRG2 2-4 lbs higher than the BlackCode, because BlackCode is stiffer than X-One/NRG2, but not by that much compared to other stiffer poly strings.

NRG2 and X-One are the best multis from Tecnifibre. NRG2 in my view resembles nat gut more, while X-One gives you a feel of a slightly stiffer multi string with a little bit poly like stiff feel, especially the first hours.

Some prefer X-One others prefer NRG2 - you have to try both and decide, which one is your favorite.

You should also try X-One/NRG2 in a hybrid with Luxilon Alu Power and do both ways to see if you prefer the multi in the mains or in the crosses.

It's good fun to experiment with hybrids and string setups :D

decades
03-24-2010, 12:54 PM
red code...

Ivan Lendl's Backhand
03-24-2010, 01:19 PM
SPAM

Don't listen to this guy - he's the WORST person for advice on strings.

David123
03-24-2010, 01:20 PM
You're a 5.0 and you have no idea what strings to use or at what tension?

Well i've been playing with full bed of sppp for a while, and just recently got the idea of actaully buying a stringing machine and trying new strings out.

David123
03-24-2010, 01:23 PM
Get 2 sets of X-One and 2 sets if NRG2.

X-One and NRG2 are the 2 best Prime Multi strings from Tecnifibre.

Try a full X-One job first at high tension - like 60 lbs.
Then try a full NRG2 job at same tension level.

Then see how you like them.
The multi you prefer will be the one you can experiment with in hybrids.

If it's too powerful, then consider a hybrid with a smooth poly in the crosses (Red Code). If you use a textured poly in the crosses (BlackCode), it will drastically affect the durability of the X-One/NRG2 in a negative way and 90% of the spin comes from the mains anyway, so when you hybrid a poly in the crosses, go for a smooth poly.

If the hybrid with X-One/NRG2 mains and RedCode crosses works great, then play with the tension until you find your preferred tension level. Always tension the softer X-One/NRG2 3-5 lbs higher than the stiffer poly to get a constant stringbed stiffness.

If you feel you still get too much power from the hybrid with X-One/NRG2 mains and RedCode crosses, try a hybrid with BlackCode mains and X-One/NRG2 in the crosses. Tension the X-One/NRG2 2-4 lbs higher than the BlackCode, because BlackCode is stiffer than X-One/NRG2, but not by that much compared to other stiffer poly strings.

NRG2 and X-One are the best multis from Tecnifibre. NRG2 in my view resembles nat gut more, while X-One gives you a feel of a slightly stiffer multi string with a little bit poly like stiff feel, especially the first hours.

Some prefer X-One others prefer NRG2 - you have to try both and decide, which one is your favorite.

You should also try X-One/NRG2 in a hybrid with Luxilon Alu Power and do both ways to see if you prefer the multi in the mains or in the crosses.

It's good fun to experiment with hybrids and string setups :D

Thanks for this comment :P Tension playing is going to be a little tedious but ill see what i can do. I think what i am going to do is try the following combinations:

1. X-one mains/Red crosses 57lb main/54lb crosses
2. NRG2 mains, Red crosses 57lb main/54lb crosses
3. blackcode mains/x-one crosses 54lb main/57lb crosses
4. blackcode mains/NRG2 crosses 54lb main/57 lb crosses

Ill test these 4 combinations to see which i would like the most. What do you guys think?

David123
03-24-2010, 01:32 PM
I am currently testing cyberflash and gosen hybrid both at 17g. I have two rackets strung at 59 for gosen and 56 for cyberflash. One racket has cyberflash as mains and the other racket has cyberflash as crosses. I am playing tonight and will try both rackets so ill post my review of those.

In addition i also have kirschbuam proline 2, signum pro tornado signum pro hyperion, What should i try with those?

AndreFan
03-24-2010, 04:44 PM
What about a hybrid of CyberFlash Blue in Mains and bi-phase 17 in crosses? I was thinking that would be a good combo in my Youtek Prestige MP. Thoughts?

Quarante-Amour
03-24-2010, 05:57 PM
I like X-1 with Spiky Shark.

Fedace
03-24-2010, 06:32 PM
Kirsch Proline 2 or Helix string. 58-62 lbs depending on weather and playing conditions.

GPB
03-24-2010, 06:55 PM
Thanks for this comment :P Tension playing is going to be a little tedious but ill see what i can do. I think what i am going to do is try the following combinations:

1. X-one mains/Red crosses 57lb main/54lb crosses
2. NRG2 mains, Red crosses 57lb main/54lb crosses
3. blackcode mains/x-one crosses 54lb main/57lb crosses
4. blackcode mains/NRG2 crosses 54lb main/57 lb crosses

Ill test these 4 combinations to see which i would like the most. What do you guys think?

I think that is your best plan, if these are the strings that you want to use. There's always the option of hybriding the two multi's or the two polys together... but I'd stick with what you have listed there for now!

ethebull
03-25-2010, 08:18 AM
I've tried the BC as mains / X-1 crosses on two different racquets. It's a surprisingly lively and powerful combo. Too much so at 57/59 on a 110 racquet, better on my 100 at 56/58, but still a tad too much. You might have the same reaction if you go with 54/57, depending on what you are used to and your stick's spec.

quest01
03-25-2010, 12:02 PM
On my PDGT's I hybrid x-one with luxilon alu power fluoro in the mains. I do use a full bed of x-one in more control oriented racquets like the blx tour and before that the kps88.

David123
03-25-2010, 01:15 PM
i use the ksix one 95.. i played with the cyberflash/gosen hybrid yesterday. I strung one racket with cyberflash as mains and the other racket as cyberflash crosses, cyberflash being at 55lbs and gosen being at 58lbs. I found that cyberflash in the mains were sort of muted.. but it felt really nice, i liked it, just gotta get used to it as its a different than the SPPP that i am used to using which is a bit stiff. In addition i found that the gosen in the mains gave me sort of a lively feel, and i liked the cyberflash in the mains better in my first hit with both last night. But then again you never know. Maybe the string need a little time to rub in because i only played 25 mins with each. Lastly, i found that the Gosen as mains gave me more power, so i am thinking of stringing the cyberflash in the mains next time a bit lower such as 52 and gosen at 55 to obtain more power, as all my shots were landing just a bit past the service line with a lot of pace.

David123
03-25-2010, 01:17 PM
also one thing worth mentioning is the fact that 15 minutes into playing with cyberflash in the mains i started feeling a slight pain my elbow. I am 17 years old and elbow problems has never been an issue with the SPPP or any other string that ive used. But as i went along it stopped hurting so maybe my elbow just needed a little time to get used to the vibration? i also was using a shock.